Finally got my tree branches cut using my new saw kzitem.infoUgkx84IcU5pbZd1Qrz8u4-YRLmJax7kdRi7B , and it was effortless. Then tackled taking pallets apart by just cutting through the nails. Zip Zip, like butter, took no time at all! Absolutely love that you just push a button to change the blade, so quick and easy. I chose cordless because of all the outside projects I need to do, and most are too far to extend an extension cord to. Incredibly lightweight, and easy to handle. I will be using this all the time. There is a reason they call them Sawzalls , because they literally saw all the things you need cut. Once you buy one you'll kick yourself for not doing it sooner ~ Just make sure and buy the right blades for the job you want to tackle. The blades are not expensive, and there are lots of various multi-packs available.
@scott53507
4 жыл бұрын
I’m a service plumber and for me its all about getting the job done right as fast as I can and on to the next job. So speed, performance and warranty are what matters. Milwaukee gets it done.
@charliealec3413
3 жыл бұрын
Instablaster
@jonothandoeser
3 жыл бұрын
I feel the need... the need for SPEED!
@cashisgreen6383
3 жыл бұрын
Fast but definitely effective
@engjds
3 жыл бұрын
If you get paid by the hour Dewalt, if you get paid by the job, milwaukee. Dewalt engineers should be ashamed, if I were their manager I would be kicking their ass. Also its very clear on the Milwaukee platform there are 2 types M12 nd M18, but the Dewalt battery ranges seem very convoluted.
@TheWiery322
2 жыл бұрын
Dude I definitely agree with this saw Milwaukee takes the cake. Only thing that keeps me from getting Milwaukee is their use of slave camps in xin xang China to make their tools. Can’t support that my guy. Dewalt makes the majority of their things right here in America.
@Chris-xe8hi
4 жыл бұрын
Watching how crooked you cut PVC will keep me up at night.
@Peep18m
4 жыл бұрын
Chris Poole you’re not kidding holy shit 😂😂
@mastermetalshredder
4 жыл бұрын
@@Protoolreviews You're doing it all wrong, you're supposed to turn the tool around and cut towards your body. I like to use my leg or fingers as a backer while cutting
@conqwiztadore2213
4 жыл бұрын
@@mastermetalshredder hell no you always cut away from you peroid
@mastermetalshredder
4 жыл бұрын
Conqwiztadore22 no man, you have to cut towards/into your body. This goes for circular saws as well..
@ricksutter8647
4 жыл бұрын
Also shouldn't be the fuel should be the regular milwaukee
@benjaminbettner620
4 жыл бұрын
Tie breaker durability, drop them till one stops working.
@laurabrown6809
3 жыл бұрын
In Modern Living Room Everyone Using "SoundProof Curtains" That Stops Outside Noise by 80% (25 Db) Tested. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
@hksjoshua
3 жыл бұрын
We all know who will win lol
@altyndom7039
3 жыл бұрын
My company pays me hourly why on earth I want to do my job faster and get paid less.
@Keegeth
3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@hungtran02026
3 жыл бұрын
Side hustle?
@Boojyman
Жыл бұрын
More time to chill on the job.
@docholliday45lc3
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a dewalt fan trying to justify a loss
@jckdnls9292
Жыл бұрын
So you can finish faster and then f off the rest of the time duh
@coralreefer23
3 жыл бұрын
I like the way dewalt feels and get cleaner more precised cuts on finished surfaces, plus i can get in tighter places. Makes a difference carrying a lb more all day. If i want a bigger, faster saw, I grab one. Use the right tool for the job. Ill grab a full size milwaukee for a fast rough in job.
@integritymatters5114
3 жыл бұрын
I will take performance over “features” any day.
@-EVASSIVE
4 жыл бұрын
My first time watching you guys and im already liking the tests better than what i see on the VCG Construction channel. Also subbed
@tonistarks2874
3 жыл бұрын
VCG are paid from Flex and others under the table...thier so phony and Vince is fukn annoying!
@ondaslab
3 жыл бұрын
VCG only cares about their one dolla hollas...10 mins before they actually start talking about the product. I'm jumping ship too.
@P_steez
3 жыл бұрын
@@Protoolreviews I can’t stand VCG anymore
@engjds
3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty good, VCG is heavily Milwaukee biased, Ave is brilliant though with his teardowns.
@g8beast679
2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it. What those guys do at VCG is try to win a showdown,. Race to the finish line. Its always the combination of the tool and the operator.
@Sparkystacoma
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you hugely for lowering the volume right before the cut
@nestormoctezuma4695
3 жыл бұрын
There is no contest, if you need to get work done get the Milwaukee. BTW most of my tools are yellow.
@7rueop1n1on5
3 жыл бұрын
😂
@xenonram
3 жыл бұрын
@@nestormoctezuma4695 what does that have to do with lowering the volume before the cut?
@redwhiteblue7831
3 жыл бұрын
Great side by side challenge... put a 6lb weight on the dewalt saw to compare evenly with weight.
@orijimi
4 жыл бұрын
It only took two tries for you guys to fricking NAIL this format. It's amazing. The perfect balance of off-the-cuff and well-considered that no one else has ever quite managed.
@michaelc7283
4 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, I use both cordless tool line (milwaukee and dewalt). For me I can't justify being only on one brand because each company has a tool better then the other. Also with purchasing kits today you will always get enough batteries. In this comparison milwaukee wins. I have the milwaukee m18 hackzall and it's great. This is Dewalt first handsaw for the (atomic) line. Still a good tool for small projects. Hopefully in their next version it will be better for their regular 20v tool line. Just as powerful like the milwaukee m18 hackzall. Remember everyone this is milwaukee second generation to get it right on both the m18 & m12 models. Thanks for the video
@muscleman369
4 жыл бұрын
Ditto. Best of both worlds. Shout out too DeWaukee!
@satchmodog2
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I'm in Milwaukee, Bosch and Makita cordless and if I find a DeWalt tool that suits me best I'll buy it. Most of my cordless tools happen to be Milwaukee, but I'm ok with running different batteries.
@gtzmwt
2 жыл бұрын
I also fall in this category. I own both brands because they both have something great to offer. Depending on my task at hand, I choose accordingly. I'm an electrician; I do the same with hand tools.
@tylerfengler2884
4 жыл бұрын
Size and weight = 1 point not 2. Besides features should only count for like half a point. You made it 5 - 5 on purpose so you didn’t have to show favoritism. Milwaukee blows DeWalt away here.
@xxxxST3xxxx
4 жыл бұрын
I agree, kind of ridiculous point system. A butter knife would technically tie with the Milwaukee if you scored it. :)
@brettwalkom948
4 жыл бұрын
The end result doesn't matter if really.. You need to look at the results closer and decide what's best for you lightness or power
@tburrows357
2 жыл бұрын
So yes you weighted both equally the Milwaukee is 1 lb extra and the angle and weight balance puts the weight forward on the cut. The dewalt 90° and straight lines place it more balance weight distribution. The balance doesn’t fatigue the user as much but means less cutting force on the experiment completed here. Equally both great tools.
@jckdnls9292
Жыл бұрын
So you're gonna get fatigued cutting a 2 inch pvc pipe ? Lol
@forestbrooks4025
3 жыл бұрын
As a contractor time is money. If you was cutting pipe all day , you would want the Milwaukee
@visionsdb6695
2 жыл бұрын
Okay mr vcg construction lol
@jps101574
4 жыл бұрын
I really like this "Thursday Throwdown" feature you are doing. I think it will catch on and really help your channel in the long run.
@kylecouture1917
3 ай бұрын
I mean, those 3 points on cutting speed on those materials carry more importance than something like size and weight snd vibration especially when those last 3 are really close and the cutting speeds are drastically different. Vibration weight snd size should all be like .25 of a point.
@lucky-lh8dl
3 жыл бұрын
THE STROKE SPEED OF MILWAKEE M18 FUEL Hackzall IS 0-3000 SPM WHILE DeWalt Atomic Reciprocating Saw IS 0- 2800 SO OBVIOUSLY MILWAKEE IS FASTER. ARE YOU FOOLING US?
@morganroberts1111
4 жыл бұрын
Good review...awkward humour. For me, the Dewalt has the better features. As a gardener, size, weight & ergonomics are just as crucial as power. A fast powerful saw is great for demolition but due to blade heat and vibration is useless for clean straight cuts & longevity. Decent blades are relatively expensive and a saw with 3100+ strokes per minute is going to reduce a good blade to shit in no time at all. When I spend $80 upwards on a blade, I prefer for it to last longer than 10 minutes so I opt for the saw that has the least amount of vibration as well as a stable top end. A saw with long stroke travel & 3100 spm will also cost you money due to the saw continually smashing and bending the tips of your blades into whatever it hits. I use a variety of reciprocating saws for pruning and on general landscaping and construction materials daily. Looking at this review I feel I'll buy the Dewalt and give it a shot... I rate my tools on how they are going to effect me physiologically more than anything else because no matter how great a tool may be, if it has negative effects on my body after using it then it's no go. Vibration + Weight + Electromagnetic Force destroys bone marrow and weakens bone marrow production, it causes bone shock, destroys joint cartilage, severely disrupts the nervous system, creates arthritis, regional numbness as well as organ fatigue. Thanks guys!
@kennyphelps1160
4 жыл бұрын
Why would you put lower grade dewalt line against high end Milwaukee line
@llamacebu216
3 жыл бұрын
China needs their products pushed
@yarbo9900
3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone ever use beef flavored tooth paste designed for Rottweilers? Because it's delicious.
@johnysilver1853
3 жыл бұрын
Is there no fuel brushless hackzall?
@joshrice2057
3 жыл бұрын
Should had added a Pound of wait to the DeWalt when doing the test seeing how the other ways pound more. That's a 15% decrease in a slower cut .
@mauricesand9416
3 жыл бұрын
That's actually the new and only 20v one handed saw that dewalt has..so they both are in the same line...
@johnnyvasquez4605
4 жыл бұрын
Big fan of DeWalt however not a fan of the Atomic line. The Atomic only has a 5/8 cut and the Hackzall has a 7/8 " cut so it will always cut faster..
@fivespeed3026
4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Vasquez Probably why the Dewalt has less vibration too.
@huejanus5505
4 жыл бұрын
Fivespeed 302 But less vibration over a longer period = the same amount of vibration.
@scottbutler2343
3 жыл бұрын
Bought the M12 Hackzall after watching this last year. As a homeowner, I invested in the 12V Milwaukees instead of 18V...for the smaller size and price. As it turns out, prices on these two tools has plummeted while the 12V has held steady. I assume they fell into that void between DIYers and tradesmen where sales suffered. It doesn't help that the M12 is an overachiever.
@ggsdude1
Жыл бұрын
For most jobs for the average person to professional, the m12 really does the job. M18 good to have but most times its overkill unless doing a commerical to industrial type of work, even then youd want to use a corded power tool for the task. M12 is also great portability wise especially if youre bouncing from job to job or different places in the day on the jobsite. A lot of jobsites arent packout/rolling bag friendly so anything to keep the gear light as possible helps
@scottbutler2343
Жыл бұрын
@@ggsdude1 I'm assuming DeWalt got the message because since writing this, I've invested in their 20V platform. I actually replaced that M12 sawzall with DeWalt's compact reciprocating saw and got the poll saw and weed trimmer(with the alloy gear head). M12 tools still getting more use though.
@dannysautorepair
4 жыл бұрын
I'd go with Milwaukee because of the speed, the last thing I need when cutting a bolt is a slow saw.
@isaachixson1493
3 жыл бұрын
The amount of dry ass humor in this video is fucking unbearable.
@yorselrus1996
2 жыл бұрын
Some of those stats dont matter if it does not cut the mustard. I dont have a dog in this fight as i own both brands
@2bhyman
4 жыл бұрын
Conclusive summary. That dewalt fucking sucks.
@VINNY5674
4 жыл бұрын
I won't even finish this video fuel will kill atomic and this coming from a loyal dewalt owner..
@marcomtrujillo1889
4 жыл бұрын
Real man don't read manuals
@apexcapital1328
4 жыл бұрын
The FUEL is a beast, just cut some huge oak tree branches yesterday and it was not much work.
@zacharycifers5016
4 жыл бұрын
So many people hating on the dewalt for being slow, part of the reason is because it’s lighter which having a light saw is really great, I personally would go with the dewalt
@robd3061
4 жыл бұрын
Build quality is another important category. I checked out both models out at HD and noticed the M18 Fuel's main shaft is a much larger diameter than the Atomic's. The older, brushed M18 Hackzall's shaft is also larger. Their shoes seemed a bit heavier duty, too. The Milwaukee saws appear better suited for heavy work than the DeWalt, and possibly more durable in the long run. The Atomic is new, so too early to tell for sure. Of course, as you mentioned in the video, the DeWalt's advantage is it's significantly lighter and more compact. That said, the Milwaukee M12 Fuel Hackzall (with a 4ah or 6ah battery) is likely comparable to the 18V Atomic in both size and power. I would choose the M18 Fuel.
@TheMcdrewb
4 жыл бұрын
Rob D I used fuel m12 sawzall its a beast for its size...a larger ah battery is important I only used 6ah i just completed a hospital and it cut a lot of 1” emt I think the atomic line isn’t heavy duty
@supri45
4 жыл бұрын
I used to have DeWalt but ended up giving them to my brother and got myself Milwaukee 😉
@ThePoxo123
4 жыл бұрын
No one cares about your family deal stupid
@vasilhrisca5536
4 жыл бұрын
AdrianFromKZitem worst decision! It’s really Chinese tools vs American! Lol genius
@antislavemindset
4 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee is better quality and they have a wider range of tools that use the same batteries.
@ramtrucks721
4 жыл бұрын
@@vasilhrisca5536 DeWalt makes tools in China. Genius
@vasilhrisca5536
4 жыл бұрын
RAM TRUCKS yes, but that’s not what I’m arguing genius! Lol They may make some stuff in China, but most of their products are from Mexico. And they’re the only brand that make and assemble tools here in the states.
@Paulgeorgiyev
4 жыл бұрын
5:50 so awkward lmao. Was he trying to shake his hand😂
@evictioncarpentry2628
4 жыл бұрын
So basically Milwaukee won all the categories where it matters. Performance and actual cutting use. Lol. I'm 100% into the 18V Makita tools, but I'd take the Milwaukee over Dewalt all day long!
@gangsterHOTLINE
4 жыл бұрын
I have so many Milwaukee 12/18v tools I've lost track. Makita 18v tools are starting to infiltrate into my inventory and I definitely am enjoying their offerings.
@gnawrot
4 жыл бұрын
@@gangsterHOTLINE I like Milwaukee cordless tools. Milwaukee tools are solid (good/very good). Makita is consistently delivering good/very good tools.
@kennyphelps1160
4 жыл бұрын
You’re comparing the waltz compact tools to Milwaukee’s top of the line so yeah I guess if that’s the way you compare things
@nick540
4 жыл бұрын
I use it for cutting so I would go Milwaukee
@whatdoesnt
4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣👍🏻
@SamuraiAtlas
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m invested into Milwaukee even if dewalt would have won I still would have to get Milwaukee because everything else I have is Milwaukee and there’s no reason at all to have 30+ Milwaukee battery’s and around the same amount of chargers and have to buy 1 dewalt battery and charger it would be stupid as heck lol what I’m saying is buy one and stick with the brand it’s stupid to have both brands
@311CoolGuy
Жыл бұрын
The Milwaukee cuts faster. That's a given with the longer stroke length. However, if I'm buying a compact tool, it's because I need to fit into tight spaces. I've had the longer strokes be self-defeating when it comes to tight, precise cuts. I do commercial HVAC rough ins, so having clean cuts matters. I prefer the Dewalt personally. Milwaukee would do a good job of replacing a full-size saw with minimal performance loss on a smaller platform, but I buy each tool for a specific reason, and Dewalt still hasn't let me down.
@tappedurmom9739
4 жыл бұрын
That dewalt gets so hot 🔥 when you're using it. After 10 minutes of hard use it gets so hot that you can barely keep a top hand on it. The Milwaukee does not have that problem.
@piffdaddy2099
3 жыл бұрын
I have M12 fuel hackzall and as a plumber I find it to be the perfect one handed sawzall. If I need the power and have the space I'll run the regular fuel sawzall. Best of both worlds
@calebhosler1940
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to say that Milwaukee also put a “guide” so to say on their plate so whatever way the blade is facing you kind of have an arrow to guide it if trying to make a “precision cut” (as precise as you can with a saw) just something I’ve found out with mine
@vovovovan
3 жыл бұрын
Never realized that this is a twin bro channel, good stuff guys!
@scottrule3456
4 жыл бұрын
The Milwakee cuts faster because the stroke is 1/8" longer and runs 200 more rpm. When I use this tool, it is because the full size recip saw won't fit. They are both much better than the M12 Hackzall, which I have 3 of those. Going to purchase the Dewalt based on size and features.
@Jay-sg2ww
4 жыл бұрын
What model M12 do you have 3 of. Is it the M12 Fuel model or the older non-fuel model. The M12 Fuel is light years better then the older non fuel hackzall. I can see the dewalt being much better than the M12 non Fuel, but I doubt its much better than the M12 Fuel model. The M12 Fuel is 5/8 stroke length, the same as Dewalt, and its 3000 spm which is 200 more than the Dewalt.
@scottrule3456
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-sg2ww I have 2 of the older version and 1 M12 fuel. I got a chance to abuse the Dewalt yesterday on some 1/2" adjustment bolts under an older furnace. The Dewalt kicked ass with a 3ah battery. 6 bolts in great time and no loss of battery like the M12.
@markymarkau
4 жыл бұрын
In terms of actual performance the Milwaukee kills the DeWalt. It might be more interesting to see the M12 take on the DeWalt
@robkenney826
4 жыл бұрын
The m12 would still poo on the dewalts 20v
@chrispuhl6094
4 жыл бұрын
I just made the same comment before I saw yours
@EmpTy-kf2rq
4 жыл бұрын
You’ll essentially have more vibrations with the Dewalt because you’ll be running it longer as it cuts slower
@mastermetalshredder
4 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean, it adds up
@daniellawson5127
4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@evansmith378
4 жыл бұрын
Emp Ty I never thought of it like that but now that you say it I think Milwaukee should’ve won vibration test
@scottrule3456
4 жыл бұрын
I have used them both now. The Dewalt is slower, but it is almost vibration free and easy to follow out of position cut lines. Also, the dewalt seems to make a cleaner cut. One more benefit, if you are on a ladder working, the Dewalt wins by the belt hook and the nose hook.
@llamacebu216
3 жыл бұрын
@@scottrule3456 you can buy and add that piece
@droneadventure8591
4 жыл бұрын
I work construction in the refineries..... Milwaukee smokes dealt every time!! Actually dewalt burns up!! They are not equal!!
@tomoaktree4951
4 жыл бұрын
As these are designed to be more one handed tools for small areas, speed while being important, ergonomics and size are really more important. If a person really wan'ts overall speed, then most people would use a full sized reciprocating saw. I think either saw will be a good choice, with many will choose based on which brand they already have.
@seabass22
2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are good when you need to cut something one handed or need more control and don’t want your saw ripping straight through something and maybe hitting something important. I just used mine to cut floor out around air duct and vent.
@sergiotenorio4990
Жыл бұрын
The speed comes from the hackzalls 7/8 blade stroke vs the dewalts 5/8 stroke. That’s a 1/4 inch more blade movement
@badger0888
4 жыл бұрын
I had predicted M18 to win in terms of speed and power. I'd actually like to see a comparison against the hacksaw M12 Fuel which might be a closer match.
@jorjdimitrov5076
2 жыл бұрын
Do you think M12 Fuel is better against Dewalt dcs369 18v?
@badger0888
2 жыл бұрын
@@jorjdimitrov5076 No. Dewalt would most likely come out on top
@jorjdimitrov5076
2 жыл бұрын
@@badger0888 Are you sure? I think m12 fuel is a little powerful from Dewalt 369..
@cm19kilo
3 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee blows dewalt out of the water. I wish I never bought any dewalt tools. I'm beyond satisfied with Milwaukee.
@SSSNNNNAAAAKKEEE
3 жыл бұрын
Well... lets see... The dewalt is smaller (less stroke, easier to carry) whereas the Milwaukee is larger and obviously the opposite. When on a job site I would rather have something compact to carry with me. Especially when the difference is good ol' U.S. made and the other is Chinese. I'll stick with the DeWalt
@alexyu6928
2 жыл бұрын
I can't understand people still talking trash about made in China. It all depends on the required quality of the ordering company demands. Not all made in China are bad, your Apple iPhone is made in China and Milwaukee power tools are made in China and they are superior product.
@MaNtIcHoRaOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
Ive used both. My tool box for work is all Milwaukee. But the hackzall is my favorite tool in there. The thing is a absolute beast. Im a residential electrician and it is absolutely perfect for cutting through anything i need
@djaztec97
2 жыл бұрын
Hey can the M18 cut through rigid conduit or strut? or is it just emt?
@ReeseDavalos
Жыл бұрын
@@djaztec97 yes it can cut through all 3. I’ve done it with my coworkers quite a few times. I was finally able to get my own today. Just make sure you get a metal blade and have at it!
@tylernewton5190
4 жыл бұрын
There is no comparison to my m18 fuel hackzall
@konamanstudio2447
4 жыл бұрын
I got the Milwaukee fuel when I bought my pack out with the Gen 3s I found a very useful for trimming tree branches encountering some steel and I've been very happy with it cuz you want a little weight when you're going through a tree branches C1 little weight when you're using one hand you don't want to push lose your balance are you guys take care Merry Christmas give me the word late have a good New Year cheers with a beer
@cyraxkkcb2mo10
3 жыл бұрын
I use it to cut tree branches as well. 😝
@danielg4717
4 жыл бұрын
As an electrician I use milwaukee
@carlosmaldonado2313
4 жыл бұрын
You must be a Romex jockey. Residential LOL
@jsjizzaone3590
4 жыл бұрын
Great review and great features but I'm not looking at those things as I want to get work done. Its Milwaukee all day.
@de-bodgery
4 жыл бұрын
It's the investment in one battery/manufacturer that decides this. If you are already vested in Dewalt...well you will buy the Dewalt tool. Same for Milwaukee. If you buying all new, then i can see why people would go for the Milwaukee. A LOT faster and the extra pound and slightly larger size isn't that much to make the Dewalt compelling. since i already own a lot of Dewalt tools, i'll get the Dewalt. If that was not the case, I'd get the Milwaukee.
@eliadbu
4 жыл бұрын
for me the 18v line is always the performance, with that said having lighter smaller tool for long periods of working and certain situations is a big advantage that should not be dismissed. but that why you have the 12v line - for having the lighter battery pack and smaller and more compact tools for jobs they are adequate. so in my opinion here the Milwaukee wins but again this is just opinion and how I view each platform.
@xenonram
3 жыл бұрын
I use my M12 stuff far more than the M18 stuff. The M12 stuff is powerful enough to do almost anything I need except long duration stuff.
@TranTek
2 жыл бұрын
agreed grip always belongs to Dewalt Milwaukee warranty blows Dewalt out in term of warranty by miles. Batteries, Milwaukee has a rubbery molding on base. Dewalt will replace same 3 years battery warranty but they scratched the date out on new resolved battery and edge them with the original broken one date, not a good way to win customers.
@Crewsy
4 жыл бұрын
Clearly the Milwaukee cuts faster but that is due to its longer blade stroke which should have been an obvious measurable for your test. I think as far as purchasing I would stick with the platform I have over picking between the different features shown here. While I am not heavily invested in DeWalt 20 volt Max tools I do only have one Milwaukee tool and that’s my corded 1/2” hammer drill.
@vintageswiss9096
2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the Milwaukee is 33% heavier than the DeWalt.
@MrJohnnyjohn23
4 жыл бұрын
If the Atomic is DeWalts "compact" tool, I think you should put it to the test with Milwaukee's M12 Fuel Hackzall. That's their compact tool. It already shows that the M18 is way better in my point but if DeWalt wants to compete in compact, M12 is the test to go with.
@lauritsenheatingcooling8668
4 жыл бұрын
Although the Dewalt is 20volt vs Milwaukee 18volt. The Milwaukee hackzall is a compact sawzall in the 18volt line.
@gnawrot
4 жыл бұрын
I have M12 Hackzall and it is compact. No regrets buying it. I can cut with this tool for hours without fatigue.
@shellcracker18
2 жыл бұрын
@@lauritsenheatingcooling8668 20v is a marketing trick. Dewalt is still technically an 18volt
@556guy4
27 күн бұрын
I own milwaukee. I know a lot of guys that have dewalt. It was an easy decision. I don't have to worry about tools walking away or batteries. Also, I love the packout. My coworker and my best friend joke about who is better. They both have dewalt, and I have milwaukee.
@tensazero
4 жыл бұрын
I wanted the 20V Atomic one-hand to be good. I wanted it to be better than the M12 Fuel. I wanted it to be worth the time and money. After all this time... Even if it drops to $50... Sadly, now I don't want it. I'm hoping for the X12 line to have one worthy of buying.
@tensazero
4 жыл бұрын
@Brett Pulley I do agree I might be a little, but for $129... And after waiting for so long. I'm hoping the X12 line will have a better one so I can jump into that.
@vintageswiss9096
2 жыл бұрын
The M18 is 33% larger and heavier than the Atomic. I understand it might be the closest comparison the brands offer… but it’s still sort of apples to oranges. Would have been interesting if you used 6lbs of weight on the Atomic to compensate for the tool being a full pound lighter. All the cutting tests were going to be skewed to the heavier tool from the beginning; but the tool is made to attempt to be as light and compact as possible.
@DavidVillarreal-zg4yr
4 ай бұрын
Milwaukee really got fluffed in this showdown. PVC/EMT/Wood = 1 category. Speed. Milwaukee has a longer stroke of cut and weighs a pound more. Dewalt wasn't going to win a single speed test regardless of material. Depth is semi-irrelevant for the same reason you chose bare tool pricing, buyers are likely already invested in the platform.
@dyer2cycle
4 жыл бұрын
...the RPM's play a role in cutting performance as well...BTW, I love Lenox blades!....
I’m a construction plumber and own both, they really aren’t competitors, the m18 hackzall is far superior because it’s just in a higher class. Dewalt is lighter, smaller and quieter, great for tight spaces. Milwaukee is more powerful and runs longer but in my experience probably won’t last more than a year with daily use. I have thousands worth in both platforms, I’ll probably continue to use the m18 as my daily workhorse.
@carlosmaldonado2313
4 жыл бұрын
Well ain't that just shitty
@kennyphelps1160
4 жыл бұрын
Thats because The fuel line is Milwaukee’s top and in the atomic line is not Dewalt top end
@danielramsden9560
4 жыл бұрын
Wont last more than a year? Jeeze what do you do to your tools. Also if you want small and quiter, the m12 hackzall is a beast. Most of the m12 lineup is. Would like to see the m12 hackzall vs the dewalt atomic.
@singletracksender9021
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Ramsden I use them. M12 hackzall is not good dude. It’s not even good for DIYers let alone tradesmen, I’ve had one. Save your money and get something useful.
@danielramsden9560
4 жыл бұрын
Well i have one and i can say for certain it is in no way shit. I dont think ive had a single m12 tool that was shit. Compared to the 18volt stuff, of course its not as good. But you buy the m12 stuff for its small size.
@jamesyeechunfung1432
3 ай бұрын
I am biased. I like Milwaukee period, just like I love Apple iPhone ever since it came out, PERIOD.
@jckdnls9292
Жыл бұрын
Woukd be nice to see a close up of the cut edges of the pipes . If one has more vibrations or longer blade stores it might affect the cut, if one cuts faster but then I have to spend more time smoothing out a cut then it's not really saving me the time. If one cuts a bit slower but smoother than that's less time I have to sand/file the edge. Idk maybe something to look at?
@Gordon_L
2 ай бұрын
I just bought the atomic mainly to cut tree roots for stump removal as well as pruning other trees using the 5 tpi 9" fleam ground blades. I went with the DeWalt because I have several other tools and batteries and none in the Milwaukee family .
@Shmankafy
4 жыл бұрын
I really think the Atomic will appeal to electricians dramatically more than the Hackzall. The Hackzall is a plumbers dream (speaking from experience) the power is always welcome with pipes that are ~ 4" whether it's PVC, ABS or any type of mild steel. Although in the end yes, I am extremely jealous of the belt clip being a Milwaukee invested user.
@TheMcdrewb
4 жыл бұрын
Peter Shmanka as an electrician the dewalt ergonomics and weight are attractive but I have to drill Tapcons then cut holes in wooden/metal studs and metal enclosures the atomic line is a light duty line of tools....Electricians Rule the Tools...and Milwaukee is the best...however the small dewalt bandsaw is much better than Milwaukee’s m12 bandsaw(which is a bumber)
@ForeverAGh0st
4 жыл бұрын
I agree about the hackzall being a plumber's dream,it's such a beast. I've cut up to 8" sch 80 cpvc with this thing. It's so strong and light for what its capable of
@ex8280
Жыл бұрын
have you tried milwaukee's PVC cutter? smooth cuts on the PVC, but curious how worth it is in real world application.
@wmk3953
3 ай бұрын
I have both, gravity dependent test ? - yikes. I do like both tools, lighter is better here for me though, being able to lighten up on the cut (as progression requires) is important to me for better control. Both are fine, this review is a bit meaningless and non scientific IMO.
@joshual2397
3 жыл бұрын
As a service plumber I tend to run Milwaukee (Specialized work) 12v series), Dewalt (Demo Work), and Metabo 18/36v (Impact / Hammer drills). Each have a spot.
@stephenreamer4323
3 ай бұрын
With the Milwaukee weighing over a pound more it should cut faster under gravity. In addition, where the weight was located in relation to the fulcrum, clearly affects cutting performance.
@tsfaceless
4 жыл бұрын
do the m12 vs dewalt i own the m12 personally love it more compact good power and if i need more power i got my m18 sawzall funny seems un fair 12v vs 18v,,, but all the benefits you get from the dewalt, smaller more comact etc.... you ve right there in the m12,,, ( but from looks ) even more compact
@chrispuhl6094
4 жыл бұрын
Specs are pretty much exact. Milwaukee m12 fuel has same blade stroke but 3000 spm vs 2800 for dewalt. It is also smaller and lighter.. I was commenting the same thing with a dewalt fanboy but once he realized that it was a better comparison he deleted the thread 😢
@twoweeledsoto6072
10 ай бұрын
The Milwaukee looks noticeably larger (heavier). If that's the case, it's got more weight pushing down on it and may feel noticeably heavier in the hand, if it's 25% heaver. Looks bigger.
@MeMikeApellido
4 жыл бұрын
Post Script: The "20V MAX*" marketing wank that Stanley Black & Decker slapped onto the Porter Cable, DeWalt and Black & Decker brands is a turn-off as ittakes advantage of the average user being unaware of peak voltage (MAX*) vs nominal/actual (18V)...If imitaion is the sincerest form of flattery Milwaukee's R&D must constantly blush since their lithium batteries, heated gear, XC 12volt, Hackzall design, Bluetooth connectivity and other projects were the first ones out and inevitably copied by Bosch, DeWalt & Makita...admitted Milwaukee bias here but only based on facts and my experience gentlemen.
@toonyc1781
2 ай бұрын
As a milwaukee fan boy, I appreciate you guys using milwaukee ppe😅 they do make dewalt safety glasses too.
@twagner6155
2 жыл бұрын
I can never figure it out. Why Dewalt? They're Black and Decker, not deserving of the Dewalt name but cheap!!!!!! Nice head-to-head but that isn't actual work. Like the Survivor show.
@DoubleD72
Жыл бұрын
Truth be told about these two brands. Milwaukee/China has to be a little faster. So their type of users can get back to sitting on their ass watching TikTok videos. While DeWalt users like it light and comfortable because they know they'll be working an actual full day. While 1 specific tool from 1 brand is faster then the other a different tool is fast then the other. Not 1 tool companies tools are overall faster then another. They are however owned by two very different countries. I'll stick with my American brand.
@thethinblueline2444
4 жыл бұрын
That's why I own and use them both! 😅👍 Nice comparison video guys, as always!
@richardkopps2257
2 жыл бұрын
Damn I’m on the DeWALT platform and I love DeWALT but this is embarrassing. DeWALT needs to step it up or I should just switch over to Milwaukee
@levbutcov562
Жыл бұрын
Здравствуйте, смотрю видео 24.12.2022г. Милуоки молодцы в этой пиле, у меня девали, мне понравилась из-за маленькой скорости из-за чего не сгорают пилки.
@fabianlopez4200
4 жыл бұрын
And that’s why my arsenal is all Milwaukee 👍🏼
@chrisose
4 жыл бұрын
The extra pound and a quarter in the Milwaukee skews the cutting tests a bit. Not that the Dewalt would have won but the results would have been much closer.
@andrewjohnson9531
4 жыл бұрын
Good point. Tests with the weight assist to provide uniform down force should be adjusted so each tool has equal total weighed down force. Still love Milwaukee though... :D
@henrytav
4 жыл бұрын
You guys should have adjusted the weight for the DeWalt for those performance comparison while cutting stuff.
@JeremyHansen
4 жыл бұрын
I don't agree. As a user, you're likely to put the same amount of force down regardless of how heavy or light the tool is. It's not like you're going to weigh the tool and think that this is 1lb lighter than that tool so I'm going to put an extra pound of force onto it. Fact is, DeWalt was going for a lighter saw at the expense of performance. If you're not already bought into a platform, make the decision on whether you'd rather have performance or lightweight. I'm already in DeWalt's platform, so I would be buying the DeWalt regardless, but I'm still plenty happy with my 20v compact cordless recip saw.
@davidgarrison1988
2 жыл бұрын
Listen , for a contractor he's gunna want the performance always, always , homeowners might want the light weight and stuff like that . I'm a big Milwaukee guy and they kick ass , I also have the older 18v nicad Dewalt Sawzall and that kicks ass too . But it was clear that Milwaukee won in performance by far.
@garye.6317
2 жыл бұрын
Hahah……😂 stop helping Dewalt let them cater to the DIY’res with this POS. I would buy this tool for my grandma so she can have something to prune her garden. 😂 get real go Milwaukee if you are serious.
@m.n.2523
9 ай бұрын
Normally people who buy a tool they do it for work with it. And all these disciplins go to Milwaukee. By the way - is Milwaukee not resistant against water? I think that I heard something about this.
@flexplumb1
4 жыл бұрын
I have both milwaukee and dewalt cordless tools and the Milwaukee tools are far superior.. the Milwaukee fuel hacksall is the best one handed sawsall I've ever used
@bossmanz28
3 жыл бұрын
Now we know if you dont have either brand it depends wat you value. Size or power. Tool is designed to be as small as possible so dewalt wins with size but clearly the Milwaukee wins with power. A good test would seem to be the dewalt vs the non fuel 18v hackzall which is prolly close to size of dewalt but i have no idea personally. To me personally not just cuz im a dewalt guy but i would prefer the dewalt as size matters more to me since like most people you already have a full size reciprocating saw. But Milwaukee def wins that battle of full size. Dewalts weakest point of all there tools are def reciprocating saws except this little one and the mid size that Milwaukee doesnt seem to offer. Thats jus my opinion
@houstonsmitherman6888
9 ай бұрын
You guys gotto test dewalts XR MAX line vs Fuel. Atomic isn't a heavy duty line for constant use. Fuel is
@Xiomaro01
4 жыл бұрын
Why in the world would you buy a goofy one-handed saw to be faster for cutting heavy material when, most likely, if you're in the trades you already have a saw that's made to do that. The whole point of a one-handed recip saw is to not take up a bunch of space and just be handy for a couple of Choice scenarios. I also don't agree with the depth of the line of tools. I'm pretty sure between DeWalt and Milwaukee they are fairly equal
@ImOnlyaMAN88
9 ай бұрын
I wished we had a universal battery for all brand tools, I’ll pick and choose in between brands, once you are invested into a platform, it’s hard switching due to cost.
@8bitsamurai6
2 жыл бұрын
Dewalt great but atomic line needs work. The 850 is really good though. But not fair cuz it's fuel vers atomic. Needs to be xr to be in same glass atleast.
@nocandopdx
Жыл бұрын
Are we not going to mention that DeWalt is lighter, therefore there's less downward force on the blade when you're comparing speed? Also Milwaukee doesn't win just because of the operating speed, it wins because it has a longer stroke, which when combined with speed, along with the weight, gets you the much faster cut. If you're not using the saw all day, the faster cutting capability takes a back s seat to ergonomics
@james2042
7 ай бұрын
if you're only buying one, get the milwaukee. If you already have a big 2 hander that obliterates anything these do, then get the smallest, lightest one that still cuts.
@Dale37
Жыл бұрын
I'm back to add a third comment to this video. LOL I still have my Milwaukee and it is still the best. I do now have an Atomic one too that I got on a 50% clearance. The Atomic is good, just not as good as the Milwaukee.
@ZR1Terror
4 жыл бұрын
Now add another pound of weight to see if it cuts quicker. I mean it’s only fair. The Milwaukee has 1 lb of force pushing down so that’s why it cuts quicker.
@Methodical2
2 жыл бұрын
I look at it a differently. While Milwaukee is heavier, I would not be holding it for a longer period of time because it cuts faster when compared to the lighter Dewalt. So, if I cut with a heavier machine but only holding it for say only 5 seconds because it cuts faster, vs cutting with a lighter machine, but holding it for 15 seconds because it cuts slower, the weight issue then becomes mute for me.
@automatacasa8110
4 жыл бұрын
For me- what’s the point of buying a tool If you don’t have power and speed... why give point to feature 1, size 1, weight 1= power should clearly have more points than a mere 1 pt... not a good grading chart system
@mattcable4340
2 жыл бұрын
IMHO, there are very few situations with this kind of tool where ergonomics would take precedence over performance. Do I really need a reciprocating saw to be a sweetheart? I want to get to the end of the cut ASAP with the cleanest separation possible which is definitely velocity related.
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