I have the dewalt station with the new 12amps batteries and I can run a mini fridge for 8 hours, a full-size double door fridge for 4 hours , washer and drier and a small 110v mig welder at 65 amps max for 2 hours. Just so people can have an idea how powerful that unit is with the right batteries and yes the set up is more than a generator but the portability , light weight and no fumes or gas is priceless.
@wim0104
2 жыл бұрын
great idea, and you make a good point about the modified sine wave. And you can still hookup 3 LiFePo4 batteries to the inverter later in its life. Also thanks for the list of little parts.
@drewt6235
4 жыл бұрын
And love your honest amendments. Your description is much appreciated.
@greglatta6525
4 жыл бұрын
this is awesome I am building a similar setup but it's a backpack that parallels 3 dewalt flexvolt batteries and it has a 3 foot cord with a dummy battery pack that plugs into flexvolt tools so the chainsaw and blower can run off 3 batteries increasing runtime, I was trying to figure out how to isolate the batteries so they don't equalize their charge and your blocking diode idea is perfect I didn't realize they made high amperage diodes for this operation...
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah simple blocking diodes used in solar work perfectly. amzn.to/342XHkW
@christophercrawford2736
3 жыл бұрын
Would you be interested in building something like that to sell? Or selling the plans? That sounds pretty awesome for something like my Dewalt tower light, which he also has in this video.
@Lockmaster56
3 жыл бұрын
This is great as I have been thinking about doing something like this in a Milwaukee Packout box. I have 2 questions. 1. Any reason you couldn't just mount 1/2 a dozen power adapters of one brand and then if you later wanted to use batteries of another brand then purchase the brand swapping adapters for those specific batteries? You could just store them in the extra space in the Ridgid case? 2. The only advantage the Dewalt has is that it can also charge the batteries when not using it to power things. Would it be possible to add-in this ability to your build?
@thetoolmat8632
4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever dismantled the Dewalt to see what's inside? Have pics? Curious to see if one could add USB or a 12v adapter.... Along with some type of bypass that allows it to operate those connectors until all the batteries are low ( instead of shut down as it does presently when one battery is drained)
@darrylmcleman6456
2 жыл бұрын
During a few power outages I used my DeWalt inverter to power the auger and the fan to my pellet stove. I also ran the internet modem and charged my laptop battery.I turned those items off and microwaved my meals.I think I was just lucky that I did no damage my electronic equipment! CHEERS from Canadian Westcoast!
@4thewinak
2 жыл бұрын
I think most people will make out just fine. In theory it should only have longterm usage effects.
@thelegendofmiles
Жыл бұрын
That Ridgid suit case looks like bomb 💣
@Impact-OG
4 жыл бұрын
So my question is could you show us how to take a larger 60 volt battery, safe from Greenworks or DeWalt and what you need to be able to make those run standard 120 home Outlet, so I can plug like a lamp into it and run it off of a battery if power goes out. I'd like to use my larger 60 volt batteries cuz I have a lot more Watt hours.
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
depends on what you're trying to run. Rare, but some ac motors will run of DC. due to the fundamental differences between AC an DC it would not work without a rectifier circuit (aka inverter). things like LED lamps and small devices use a wall wart that take AC and convert it to DC. Many times 12v or 5v. for devices like such you could bypass the dc -> ac and ac -> dc conversion and wire it directly to the battery (power source). ie. an led lamp that uses a wall wart with 12v out, could be wired directly to a 12v m12 battery. or such.
@azael831
3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about buying the battery adapters and putting Milwaukee batteries on the DeWalt power station
@carollaS02
3 жыл бұрын
I tough about the same thing
@kylevossos4761
2 жыл бұрын
Been wanting to do this as well
@coryulrich6489
4 жыл бұрын
How are you handling the low voltage cut off for the M18 batteries? The Dewalt and Makita batteries have it built in, but he m18 ones don't.
@drewt6235
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you did that disclaimer! Pretty good, yes pretttty good! Thanks man.
@StarATL
5 жыл бұрын
Wrapped up watching, great info. You should make a video of you building one and explaining the same concepts along the way would be great content for your channel
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
Working on trying to improve in such ways. thanks for feedback.
@quevas93
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Keep up the good work.
@techdegenerate
2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about how I could do a DIY power station system. Thanks for the idea!
@4thewinak
2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@scottfraser1508
2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in how to build that inverter do you have a video showing its built or more specific information
@4thewinak
2 жыл бұрын
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@dexterousx92
Жыл бұрын
*🍀Hey, I watched your video a couple of times. I really enjoyed the information. I want to do a similar project but I have some questions. I have a 12V Dc input inverter can I safely use this with 24 Volt Kobalt Batteries. Is there a Downside to going this route? Thanks*
@4thewinak
Жыл бұрын
I bet that dc 12 v input is only rated for 12 v. if you input 24v in there. it will probably fry the inverter
@dangerds1
5 жыл бұрын
coolest thing i have seen in awile, blowing my mind , i need this
@XxN8iVeSc0uTxX
4 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@chadgaglioti417
4 жыл бұрын
Now I have another project with my leftover items. Very cool.
@brianb1179
Жыл бұрын
I like this idea , I have almost 2 dozen Bosch 18 volt batteries , I should think about making something like this , great explanation and video, thanks
@jeremysimpson1432
2 жыл бұрын
I want to run a cpap machine. Runs about 9amph how many of those 20V dewalt batts would it take to run that station 8 hrs? If it’s at all possible? Or I’ve got 2 ryobi 40V batteries. How could I set it up to run off of those and for how long?
@4thewinak
2 жыл бұрын
If I were you, I would buy the BLUETTI eb3a. For about ~$210 you get the pure sine wave inverter and a 268 W hour battery. And then you can use the Ryobi batteries to extend the run time of the BLUETTI. For the price it’s the best value and good product . Check my latest two videos on the BLUETTI
@Edgardocelectric007
5 жыл бұрын
Great idea, I’ve been wondering if Milwaukee would come out with a inverter battery charger type, I would step it up a bit and allow Solar input power to not only charge but run tools too
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed but if they ever do it will probably pure sine wave and 2x cost of Dewalt .
@joeframer9642
4 жыл бұрын
Edgar Acosta they have one on their MX platform.
@urbantera
4 жыл бұрын
What do you do about the voltage getting to low on your power tool batteries? Don't you need some kind of low voltage cutoff to avoid damaging the lithium cells?
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
I had a low voltage cutoff IC after some mentioned that's something I should worry about. Initially I used it for a long time without it and drained the dewalt batteries down. They're still fine to this day.
@emg58104
3 жыл бұрын
What kind of ic are you using?
@kimnimbus1291
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I'm thinking about adding to the Dewalt Flexvolt platform 👍🙏♥️
@SerendipitySue
3 жыл бұрын
So if the parallel batteries are not the same voltage the blocking diodes will prevent the current surge. BUT doesn't that mean that until the batteries are the same voltage, the powerstation will only be running off the highest voltage pair? That means you probably would not have enough Amps to run large devices?
@thisguygardens
2 жыл бұрын
thank you for making this video. its been a couple years since you made this video, are you still happy with the inverter you recommend? thanks again
@dlc2724
Жыл бұрын
I've heard the 20v battery is just an 18v battery. But since all 18v batteries can be charged up 20v.that legally in the USA they can advertise it as a 20 volt battery. But in England and Australia they consider it false advertising
@4thewinak
Жыл бұрын
yeah that's why they call it 20v max.
@chrisE815
3 жыл бұрын
Is there a blocking diode between each pair of batteries, or is that not required?
@MusikAndrez
2 жыл бұрын
What if I already have an inverter that accepts 12v instead of 36v Can i connect 1 12v battery and the others can be 18v milwaukee batteries?
@everetttice3946
3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't let my Dewalt power station go for anything. Have used it to power refrigerator, freezer pressure washer & so many other things. People are pushing scare tactics to get you to buy less reliable pure sine wave! Non of my electronics & computers are charged with AC voltage anyway. I have several solar generators & solar panels that do that.
@thethinblueline2444
5 жыл бұрын
Super informative video! Loved every second of it. I'm your new greatest fan. Liked and subscribed. Thanks!
@BenJamin-ou7kd
4 жыл бұрын
True on the output of the dewalt as far as the modified sine wave, I connected a craftsman scroll saw and it would go crazy, speed up and down then completely shut off . Worthless for this rool. I still use it but am careful now on what I connect to it. I wish I could connect my Yamaha pa , but I'm scared to burn it with this dewalt ...
@ya89
4 жыл бұрын
great. my electricity is 240v 50hz and I want to be able to operate appliances that I'm buying from the US and I want to make a 120v 60hz system over my house any suggestions?
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
You probably need a mains power transformer designed to be used for continuous use. Not sure what market you're in but you need a "Step down transformer" for 240v 50hz to 120v 60hz. Some appliances will work on both 240 and 120 automatically (check your specific appliance), some will have a little switch near the power plug that you can manually switch.
@ianharris5184
4 жыл бұрын
That is a great invasion
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@loucifer323
5 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee 9amp batteries are actually 180 watt hours only under heavy load do they drop to 18volts
@joeframer9642
4 жыл бұрын
??? They are always 18v
@loucifer323
4 жыл бұрын
@@joeframer9642 I meant they are 20v normally
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
almost all 18v power tools are 20v nominal. They all (major brands) use the kind of 18650 cells from either samsung, lg, sanyo, panasonic, etc and 5 of them in series. So they're pretty much all the same voltage, amp-hour capacity are different obviously.
@charleskusi7791
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, is modified sine wave safe for charging other batteries. Example, Milwaukee top off and this dewalt power station. Thanks
@scottturner7910
5 жыл бұрын
Nice video....You sound sharp about this stuff.. I'm thinking of adding power to my electric bike... It has a 36v battery, I'm thinking of putting 2 dewalt batteries in series with a one way diode and hooking it up to the input of the bike. Do you think this will work?
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
Depends on your system. The power requirements. If the ebike can take a 36v dc power source, then sure it could work. I can't see an ebike motor drawing more power than a heavy duty hammer drill or recip saw under load. As long as you have the proper protections in place should be fine. Although i would probably use milwaukee or makita batteries instead. The protection features are built into the batteries (thermal, discharge, etc) where as the dewalt protections are built into the tool i believe (my info could be outdated).
@scottturner7910
5 жыл бұрын
@@4thewinak Good Info thanks:)
@PghMtbRides
4 жыл бұрын
So this is a no go for corded shop vac, steamer, car polisher, carpet extractor?! etc
@installer1571
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a drawn up diagram that we can buy or you could show us
@garymooyin3399
4 жыл бұрын
Nice ,but the biggest question is coming coming,i need one made for me whats the cost But i need it for 18v dewalt,milwaukee,roybi 18v all 18volt
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't do it, unless I already had the batteries to start with., If you don't have the batteries you're better off buying a off the shelf unit.
@JoshSpace
3 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to build a much larger version of this to provide power for a Millermatic211 welder? I’ve seen other videos with people testing the Dewalt power station and it just can’t do it.
@davidpetrusewicz8172
4 жыл бұрын
I love my 1800 /3600 dewalt inverter used when I do panel change so I keep plugs in light when I work so I’m not working in the dark got me curious about the other power stations
@billcarriveau
4 жыл бұрын
Why is the dewalt better for big tools? It's only a 3000peak vs the 6000peak of the sine wave you used?
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
It would be more "rugged". Would hold up better to covered in saw dust, etc. Plus it's a modified sine wave inverter, which is less sensitive to any electrical feedback from the tool (not a real issue).
@TacticalThib
Жыл бұрын
Bro you have the best video on how to build this power station!! I wanna do the same but use flex batterys and make it my unit for my camper.. I wish I had your knowledge building this buy I'll give it my best mabey get 8 flex and 8 Milwaukee addapters m18 12ah and stacked lithium 10ah packs
@daversj
5 жыл бұрын
The diode is a good idea, especially because you are using very different batteries, but its way oversized. I would try to not use dissimilar batteries at the same time however. You need to add low voltage protection IC to your batteries or they will get ruined by over discharge.
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought at first, but it seems the BMS and the protection circuits including low voltage is built into the milwaukee and makita battery packs. Where as on the DeWalt batteries I rely on the low voltage alarms of the inverter to swap them out (audible beeps). Since then, i've been only using the milwaukee 12.0 packs, since they are good sized. At first I used much smaller diodes (15SQ045 Schottky 15 amp from amazon) but kept burning them out. Maybe those diodes aren't the best quality, but I had good experience from using the larger ones before on solar projects so stuck with what I knew. What diode would you recommend using for the application?
@Larsema1
4 жыл бұрын
The Dewalt batteries are not allowed to be sold as 20V here in Sweden since they put out the same as other brand 18V batteries. So here Dewalt print 18V on their batteries (54V on the Flex), and it's fine to parallell them with other 18V batteries. The 85A diode can output 3000W to the inverter, ant maby 2500W out from the inverter in room temperature mounted on a heatsink. Without heatsink and maby higher ambient temperature 1000W would be max. So I would not go for a smaller one. A 15A diode would give 500W to the inverter and maby 400W out, in roomtemperature with heatsink, and a resistive load. It would easily burn with this inverter. Maby even the surge charging the inverters big capacitors at the beginning will destroy such small diode after a few connections.
@jaredappleseed7037
4 жыл бұрын
Great idea 👍 I think I'll do this with a packout box since Milwaukee doesn't have the balls to do it
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
do it
@philipdove1705
4 жыл бұрын
Sure would be nice
@mattcohn6371
4 жыл бұрын
I have a question: in your setup do the batteries discharge evenly or not? I have tested a setup following your example but the tool batteries discharge unevenly. Is there any way to regulate them so that they discharge evenly. The other issue is if they are discharging evenly there is a problem that the batteries may not disconnect before going fully flat, damaging the batteries. Is this a problem you have encountered or not? Thanks for your help and suggestions. Matt
@mattcohn6371
4 жыл бұрын
I am using a 12V to 240v AC inverter (Australia) and a 20 amp buck converter to get the voltage from 20V tool battery to 12 Volt into the inverter. I am using only single batteries behind the blocking diodes rather than 2 batteries in series. Regulating the draw on each battery so they discharge evenly seems to be the only issue with the setup.
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Well i usually run into the issue of uneven discharge b/c the batteries are usually different for me. What i mean is.. Im using milwaukee and dewalt batteries. Even if they are the same ah, they are using different cells, and they have different discharge characteristics. Usually for me the batteries that are in series are discharging evening, or very close to it. I don' have that problem there. But i've been running now days with 2x M18 12.0 ah and 2x Flexvolt 9ah. Several times I run only Milwaukee batteries all the way. But any how Im not as concerned with the battery discharge on the milwaukee batteries since the BMS is built into the pack. I haven't had an issue for any of my m18 batteries yet. I've been using this setup for over a year, and been using it roughly once or twice a week. Dewalt you got to be a bit more careful since it seems the BMS is split, but mostly on the tool and not the pack. I've had one dewalt pack go bad, but im not sure if it's due to the inverter, since i use the batteries in other tools, and it's dated 2013. sooo... yeah you could build and use a regulator circuit in front of the batteries for controlling the discharge from the packs and also act as a BMS, but then it's going to get more complicated.
@mattcohn6371
4 жыл бұрын
@@4thewinak thanks
@hikerbiker32
4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about this as well. If you are running a 18ah group in parallel with a 10ah group the 10ah group could be run too low and damage the batteries before you know it has happened. One solution here might be a low voltage alarm on each battery pack. This could help improve safety. I bought a Dewalt battery to ryobi tool adapter and disassembled it to find no low voltage cutoff or protection. I added a low voltage alarm that was tiny enough to fit inside of the adapter. Here is a video that shows it in action. kzitem.info/news/bejne/o26PtX1php6odqg There is a link to the alarm in the video description.
@hikerbiker32
4 жыл бұрын
If you used identical batteries would you need to have the diodes? Say I have 4ea Dewalt 5ah batteries. In theory they would be OK to balance each other a little, right?
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
in theory, it'll work fine. Of course the "purest" or "book" people would outrage, but some back feed into the batteries won't kill or damage the batteries. What you really have to worry about is running fully charged batteries with almost discharged batteries. That would be a lot of back feeding. I've been using this system on multiple batteries not equally charged across platforms for more than a year on a regular basis, none of my batteries have any issues.
@Eagleoneradiogod
4 жыл бұрын
Can you build your homemade box with a battery management system? Or the diode is quick and simple.
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
IM sure you could. just gets a bit more complex. in this case relied on the BMS built into the batteries to manage the batteries. Wasn't designed for permanent or large scale purposes.
@XxN8iVeSc0uTxX
4 жыл бұрын
Cool conversion
@MusikAndrez
2 жыл бұрын
Would it be just as strong as the dewalt if i used a 5000w inverter?
@4thewinak
2 жыл бұрын
the 5000 watt inverter would probably be stronger as it's 5000 watts (im assuming peak), where as the dewalt is < 4000 watts peak.
@dandanbeehouse
3 жыл бұрын
Great, thanks one question, do you try how to balance currency to charging batteries ?
@EZ4U2Say11
5 жыл бұрын
6:46 finally opens the box
@rickybobby1563
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff bro... Great job.
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@rogerlikes
4 жыл бұрын
Lots of good info, I subscribed.
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@medman36
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Very informative and insightful. Have been thinking about doing a similar project with tool batteries. I'm amazed to read that you've been using this set up for almost a year and things are still wirking well with the tool batteries, if I understood correctly. I think ine thing I'm thinking of doingbis wanting to combine charging and discharging of the batteries from the the same set uo. Currentlybthe set seems to 9nly support duscharging of the system. If the project could be supported drom both solar power and a mains source, the system would be complete. The main worry about this system from a 2-3S2-3P system, I have, is cell unbalncing over time. I lnow this occurs with tool batteries over time. I know Milwaukee has built in overcharge, undervoltage and/or overheat orotection in each battery bms (battery management system). I don't know about Makita or DeWalt. The bms in Milwaukee does some balancing, but it is not perfect. I've seen countless youtube videos how to rebalance cells in milwaukee. I think I would add a bms system between the natteries and inverter tonimprove overall battery health and safety. Would be interestingbto know which charger would best dit this system to be able to cahrge and discaharge the batteries at the same time.
@vtran1082
4 жыл бұрын
Would the type of 36v inverter change if i used all four dewalt 12ah flexvolts?
@Z555JR
4 жыл бұрын
Do you think you can mod the dewalt power station to fit other batteries? Would those eBay adaptors work ? Or would the power station reject it ?
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Johnrod63 the battery adapter would work but are dangerous because you could accidentally charge the batteries in the power station. That would be bad because they would get charged unbalanced leading to fire or explosion. To answer the question if adapters can be used to power the power station: possibly yes, but depends on the adapters you get. If you get one that can fully seat in the power station tool (not all of them do), then it is possible...i think
@Z555JR
4 жыл бұрын
4thewin I see just need to remember to not charge the batteries with the adaptor. Thanks
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
So I just tried it, with the adapters I currently have, it does not work because it does not fully seat in the tool without modification. If you try it, try to get an adapter that can fully seat. I know the ones i 3D printed before did, but i already sold those off and don't have them anymore.
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Find the proper adapter.
@quevas93
4 жыл бұрын
I love this idea but I have one concern . Should be I concerned about over draining the batteries to the point they won't take charge Or do they have some kind of protection built in.
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
If you're using dewalt batteries i would take caution, and more of the battery management logic seems to be built into the tools and the charger. Where as the makita and milwaukee battery packs have BMS or BPS built into the packs to protect batteries against low voltage and will shutoff the pack.
@quevas93
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for responding. That was extremely helpful....👍👍👍👍👊
@ducmagic
5 жыл бұрын
You should work more on the camera to show your wires the unit? It will help to understand the wires better. Thanks .
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
I'll see if I can drop a build vlog and include some wiring schematics. But good point
@tpgoat
4 жыл бұрын
I bought the DeWalt power station and four 9ah batteries to run a portable air conditioner while camping. Both DeWalt and the manufacturer of the air conditioner said it should work just fine but it kept causing a system fault when the compressor tried to turn on. I returned everything.
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Tyler even if that had worked it probably would have lasted you maybe an hr
@tpgoat
4 жыл бұрын
@@4thewinak the air conditioner was only 5000btu. 11.2 amps at 120v Once you make temperature it only needs to run to maintain temperature. I only needed it to last in the evening for a couple hours
@SignatureEdits
4 жыл бұрын
@@tpgoat lol "only" 5000watts . 5000w / 110v = 45.5 amps. So your 4x9ah batteries (36ah total) wouldn't even run it for an hour... Even if it could handle that crazy power draw. Idk man... That's asking a lot.
Power is in watts and capacity is in watt-hours so a 5ah 20volt battery is 100 watt-hours of total power. You can use it to draw 5 amps for an hour, or 1 amp for 5 hours at 20 volts. It doesn't matter how you connect your batteries in series for 4 at 80 volts to pull 5 amps or parallel for 4 at 20 volts to pull 20 amps it has no effect on the capacity. If you use a 36 volt converter or an 18 volt converter the total watt- hour output will be the same as the sum of the total source batterys' capacities.
@realtorkevinfung
4 жыл бұрын
The DeWalt station is a charger also. It will charge all 4 batteries simultaneously. I think to be useful your system needs to do that also.
@scottwood5098
4 жыл бұрын
finally an intelligent review!
@MikeDIY
4 жыл бұрын
What size fuses are you using for the Dewalt batteries?
@laven111
4 жыл бұрын
I think you could retire on cashing in on the batteries Great video
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Need someone to help make it a marketable item...
@jamesconnell9655
3 жыл бұрын
Could you test the dewalt power station with milwaukee battery and adapters would be easier if it worked
@fredkee9294
5 жыл бұрын
Ate there any good reasons not to use a 36v to 12v DC-DC converter between 36v batteries and a 12v inverter?
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Seems like it would be inefficient to do multiple conversions.
@fredkee9294
4 жыл бұрын
@@4thewinak that's probably because I don't yet know enough to ask the right questions. I like your idea, but I would like to use a less expensive 12v inverter. I agree with you that extra conversions add Inefficiencies, and that was a crude attempt to solve the 'problem '. A better solution may be a single tool battery and a charge controller connected to a 12v inverter. A charge controller is designed to accept an input of about 18v (from a solar panel), but I am not sure if or how I can connect a charge controller directly to an inverter.
@Larsema1
4 жыл бұрын
You would at least need a 3000W DC-DC converter.. plus a good 12v to ac sinus inverter.. that sounds neather cheap or efficient. Also thick wires to handle the 300A at 12V, and bigger losses in the connections. But if you have some 12v batteries for smaller tools, you could use them directly with a 12v inverter that you maby already have and save a lot of money. I have a 48v battery in my scooter so I will order a 48v inverter and connectors so I can swap the battery out and use as powerpack when needed.
@wheredidileavemycell
4 жыл бұрын
can you break down the runtime calc for 3x18v in series v 1 36v in a 36v inverter...firt time ive heard anyone mention that and i am a fan of Will Prowse...never heard him mention that before
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
it's all rough and relative math. Surely someone smart could do it exact, but im not that smart. But comes down to watts and hours. say a you have a 12ah milwaukee m18 battery. that's 18v * 12ah = 216 watt hours; meaning you could run a device that draws about 216 watts for 1 hour with that battery. so if you take 2x m18 batteries in series... you have a 36 volt battery rated at 12 amp hours. that's 36v * 12ah = 432 watt hours. meaning you could run a load of 432 watts; say 4x 100 watt light bulbs for 1 hour or 2x 100 watt light bulbs for 2 hours. Now everything mentioned is in a perfect world with 100% efficiency for easy math sake. In the real world things are not 100% efficient so you need to factor that in, but that's the gist of it.
@craigjoint2615
5 жыл бұрын
how many makita batteries would it take to power 1600watts and are you going to do a video on how to wire this up?
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
The wiring diagram would probably be the most helpful to people. I'll throw one up. There are so many different ways it could be wired, there are a lot of options. The powering of 1600 watts is really depends on what the surge is and how long you need it. ROUGH ROUGH estimate: assuming you used 4x Makita 5.0 batteries (4x 90 watt hr = 360 watt hr), accounting for ~20% loss, you could probably in theory run for ~20 mins, assuming good wiring and fuses. You can always add the pig tails to add more packs to reduce the amps and increase runtime.
@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
4 жыл бұрын
Microwave Ovens don't work very well either (on modified sinewave units).
@christophercrawford2736
3 жыл бұрын
Good to know. I was starting to get a bit excited about the possibility of using the Dewalt Power Station for that.
@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
3 жыл бұрын
@@christophercrawford2736 - It depends on the microwave, but most magnetrons are sinewave specific. A microwave will run, but it will run at reduced power and efficiency. I believe if you used the microwave long enough (and depending on microwave) it could damage the microwave after a certain amount of usage (though it might be years). I have run two microwaves on mine and they both "slow down" running on the DeWalt power station compared to AC power.
@julios5179
4 жыл бұрын
nice vid! .is it possible to used those 3D printed holders to charger the batteries?
@SignatureEdits
4 жыл бұрын
I too would like to know this.
@georgemcnaughton7839
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the free content
@PghMtbRides
4 жыл бұрын
Are you able to 3d print up a Ridgid to bosche adapter for tools? But this ordeal is awesome, I'd def do this and Makita backpack lol
@james10739
4 жыл бұрын
That reliable inverters have a 18v inverter now so you could run light loads off 1
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
yeah that always helps, but if you need to draw more power, it would draw more from each pack, so just need to size the unit to whatever your needs are.
@theartist8189
Жыл бұрын
What are the chances i could pay you to build one of these for me?
@eric6million
3 жыл бұрын
Any wiring diagram for this setup?
@Mrdecalusa
3 жыл бұрын
you didn't post a link to the stl files
@jamest.5001
5 жыл бұрын
The sine wave, sets a timing in some electronics, and a modified sine wave can throw that off, alse devices with a transformer, it can cause then to overheat, and burn the windings, modified sine, is pulses of DC, DC and coils don't work together well,
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@dondiego124
5 жыл бұрын
great idea nice vid thanks
@Fechual
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video! So i currently have the Dewalt Power Station and 4 9amp Dewalt Batteries. I have already run into issue with electronics not running correctly and giving off a not so good smell as a result of using the power station. Do you happen to have a step by step video to build this? Or would you consider building this if I paid for all of the parts and had you assemble? I would of course pay you for your labor etc.
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
I'll see if I can drop a build vlog of it soon. Hopefully that'll help.
@loucifer323
5 жыл бұрын
Dewalt made this to run power tools or lights not sensitive electronics
@warrenpressure
5 жыл бұрын
Lou Cifer dewalt advertises tv runtime
@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't help me lol :) But I like your engineering.
@risingwarrior9937
4 жыл бұрын
Can you make the battery adapter fir the Ridgid Batteries? Cool video
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Robert Iturriaga I’m sure there are 3D models out there that you can print or buy. For example: www.ebay.com/itm/battery-adapter-for-Ridgid-18V-Hyper-li-ion-battery-dock-power-connector/143113234424?hash=item215236a7f8:g:G7gAAOSw8IpciuTD
@nathanseguin8860
4 жыл бұрын
Any ideas how to. Put one of these. To run. 15 amp power tools
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
all you really need is an inverter that is at least 2000 watts rms and can do 4000 watts peak. Higher the better if you're going to run power tools, BUT if you were going to run power tools you can save a lot of money by just buying the dewalt power station or any regular inverter. You don't need sine wave inverter for power tools, it'd be a waste of money and you would probably wear it out over time with all the turning on and off. Just get a regular inverter that would work off your battery voltage.
@garymooyin3399
4 жыл бұрын
So i have the Box already this i need are ?
@hurricanealley8602
5 жыл бұрын
How many volts did you have going into the inverter ? 36 volts ? X 2 + another 36 optional ? I guess it doesn't matter how much DC goes into it.... ? Output is always 110 AC pure S wave....just last longer. I just thought one wasn't supposed to exceed 12v 24v or 48v.... Glad I found you. Subbed. Been considering this for a while now 👍✌
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
Two 18v packs in series is 36v. All the other batteries in this video are setup this way. So the 4 batteries are setup in 2 sets of 2 in series. With the Milwaukee battery pigtail it's 3 sets of 2 in series, which only increases the runtime and the peak power that can be drawn from the battery bank. I put up a wiring diagram in this video here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/pX2nnGSarYCCe6Q When you put batteries in series, you add the voltages. When you put them in parallel voltages stay the same (assuming they are the same battery with same charge), but you increase the capacity (aka amp hours). So putting 3x sets of 36v batteries in parallel increases the amp hours from the battery bank. In this setup the battery voltage doesn't exceed 36v (40v max).
@XChaoticComposerX
4 жыл бұрын
you seems to know some EE stuff. modified sine wave is used for a good reason. efficiency. it is a battery power system. so run time is the main design consideration. each battery is about
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of sense, but the problem would be you need to modify the device drawing the power. Where as if you're on the go, or the device is not yours, then it's not really realistic. It'll be a good idea for someone who is building something more permanent, but this is more for on the go, random use on random items. Plus when i go onsite to install network gear you never know what you will run into.
@XChaoticComposerX
4 жыл бұрын
@@4thewinak oic... :) but dont do it with your own batteries tho. cuz the weakest(eg. not fully charged) battery in one bank will be REVERSELY charged when it is drained
@rickyhall1772
5 жыл бұрын
Omg open the damn box. Finally opened it... JUST TO CLOSE IT.
@friendly1870
4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@dylandiguistini9625
4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Great videos! I watched your instructional build video as well! I was toying with the idea of making a portable air compressor. Do you think it's possible? Or would it be to much for the power station? I have a metabo hpt 1 gallon compressor, I love how quite it is. Would love to hear your thoughts.
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the compressor. In theory yes it should work, but for something like the compressor it would be best to use the dewalt power station because of the surge or peak power rating. There would be no benefit provided by using a pure sine wave inverter for the compressor. They are more sensitive to electrical feedback, the surges would eventually wear out the inverter. anyways, it should work, but you need to make sure you have the proper size inverter for it, AND you need to use a soft start plugin adapter. It reduces the surge load on the inverter/powerstation into a slower rampup therefore limiting the peak surge by the device. a device such as: www.raymondinnovations.com/products/gs10 on a completely different side note, dewalt makes a portable flexvolt powered compressor.
@sc0368
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for info on sine waves.. I almost bought Dewalt power station.
@aulismarttinen8632
3 жыл бұрын
You can buy a line conditioner on line which cleans the sine wave for about$110 on eBay
@marcu9111
3 жыл бұрын
How did you build it??
@4thewinak
2 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/pX2nnGSarYCCe6Q
@davidpetrusewicz8172
4 жыл бұрын
I can see it a cleaner signwave because I don’t see the wave line on the monitor.
@crystaldavis6169
4 жыл бұрын
Went straight to the comments.
@jeq2822
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Again!!!
@_LAND_OF_THE_FREE_
5 жыл бұрын
Well We will call them a battery mounting tray 😁
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
This is what happens if I don’t script ... can’t think of names
@HarrisonCountyStudio
5 жыл бұрын
4thewin it’s better that way. 👍🏽
@fredkee9294
5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a source for a 36v modified since wave inverter?
@4thewinak
4 жыл бұрын
you mean the pure sine wave inverter? amzn.to/2CEXNUs . You can try getting it from eBay also.
@fredkee9294
4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a lower priced option for loads that don't need the pure sine wave, such as lights and power tools.
@yojamey
5 жыл бұрын
Edit down and Add Low voltage cutoff to protect lithium batteries...larger inverter = larger waste energy due to conversion loss....better to match up expected load
@4thewinak
5 жыл бұрын
Good idea to add low voltage cutoff. I started using only makita and milwaukee batteries, since the BMS is built into them including the low voltage protection, so that I wouldn't have to add that. Not a lot of space in that small tool box. You're right on the matching the wattage, but I also wanted it to be flexible to use in emergency situations. i've already used it to power cpap + fans + lights during brown out, and even a rack of network switches during an install job.
@audiaprilia
4 жыл бұрын
Hello, could you possibly build me one of these units to run soley on Ridgid batteries? I will prepay via venmo or PayPal? Thanks
@2005henson
3 жыл бұрын
im going to finish your video but i wish you would hurry lol
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