I like your videos! However, you probably miss the main point: Zealots mostly use Zakarum instead of Excile only because of life tap. Zealot cannot deal with physical immunity so they forced to use merc with reapers toll. So the life tap over cast the decrepify that makes build much worse! Also the decrepify is much safer than having +20k armor (armour is such a poor stat in game, you always move, so goes to 0) Only only case for excile is ubers.
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
Yes a very good point I forgot to bring up. In my last zealot guide I try do players 8 without lifetap, and its rather hard if not impossible to stay up with just life steal. If you we're mainly doing players 1-5 use zaka + laying of hands for sure. As long as you have some life steal and dont face to many undeads ;)
@dude_8434
4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@blondegirl7240
4 жыл бұрын
Djuntas yeap, players 8 without life tap is nightmare :D that’s why Tesladin helps to kill players 8 monsters (tesladin perfectly synergies with life tap) Thank for the video, appreciate your effort :)
@General-Gauder
4 жыл бұрын
@@Djuntas Hmm i have no problems in players 8 i'm doing all the time and i dont have Lifetap decreptify = 50% more DMG = Monsters faster dead = better way. My Fana Zealot Helm: G-Face +15%IAS/40%ed Armor: Forty Weapon: Death Ettin-Axe Schield: Zaka +15%IAS/15Max Hands: Loh Boots: Gores Belt: Nosferatu Amu: Highlord Ring1: Raven Ring2: Rare leachring 110AR 8%LL 11%@prisma tourch/Ani + ca.100max an some res in the Inventory. Thats the best Gear you can have and P8 is no Problem. With Exil you can't use a Ettin Axe Death because you don't get Level 27 Fana without skiller and even if you use Skiller you don't get 80% IAS for Maxspeed so Exile is only for a Uber Smiter interesting but even there the Zaka is a little bit better because it makes more DMG and Lifetab can be delivered by dracs. Armor is nearly irrelevant in the Game.
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
@@General-Gauder We'll...Go with death if you want to, but Id always aim for Grief for its better dmg, and less IAS needed. Im suprised you say players 8 no lifetap works, cause I found once souls or undeads etc becomes to much I drop. I guess below act 4-5 mobs its OK.
@Tratoxino
11 ай бұрын
Exile is underestimated and I would say mainly because for most players HoZ is a more accessible and cheaper option and they can already have it at level 42, so before Exile becomes available to them, they will get used to HoZ (they will also adapt their other equipment to it) and already they don't want to make a change, even though they know very well how much good Exile is, but they just don't want to admit it and they deliberately look for advantages in HoZ even where there are none. HoZ: 1) Mods like 20 str and 20 vit are always useful, but they are easily obtained on other items and it is not necessary for a shield to have them in the stats. 2) Zealots and Smiters are the characters that get the least benefits from + all skills out of all builds and out of all characters. With + 2 all skills and + 2 combat skills, the paladin's damage and attack rating (zeal or smite, fanaticism) increase VERY LITTLE (and the melee paladin doesn't really use any other skills besides holy shield and maybe vigor), and for that reason it is not a relevant enough argument for preferring this shield over exile. The unimportance of + skills for melee paladins is also indicated by the fact that most players prefer charms with max damage and attack rating instead of skill charms, because combat or attack skill charms are simply weak. Besides, Exile adds + 2 offensive skills and thus the bonus of + 2 all skills and + 2 combat skills on HoZ becomes even less advantageous. 3) The +30% increased block chance looks good, but with a holy shield, a paladin can easily get max block with any shield. However, thanks to the high block bonus on HoZ, the paladin gets a lot of points for good, which he can put into life instead of dexterity. So I agree that the increased chance to block is the best that HoZ provides and for some players it may be the deciding reason for choosing this shield. 4) Another thing that can be considered an advantage of HoZ is the ability to socket it with any gem, rune... and add some extra stats according to any preference. So, thanks to HoZ, Zealots and Smiters get a lot of stats, but they don't get anything extra interesting and really important that would make this shield indispensable and irreplaceable for them. However, HoZ is great and the best shield for casters (hammerdins, Fohers), which in my opinion the game's creators primarily created it for. Exile: 1) Regardless of how much useful or not defense is in Diablo, Exile is an item that like no other will increase a character's (thanks to the aura, it also increases everyone else in the party, including the mercenary) defense to an insanely high value, allowing them to in many situations it will significantly increase their chances of survival. 2) Curse life tap is a UNIQUE stat that the player can only get from three items in the game (Exile, Last Wish, Dracul’s Grasp) and it is a stat that combined with high defense can make Paladin the most viable character in the game. And just like with aura defiance, it will also be used by all members in the party using physical attacks. The only downside to it, and I'll be fair to say it may be an understandable reason for many not to use Exile, is that it can't be used with The Reaper's Toll and his Decrepify Curse at the same time. This is the only argument that makes me agree that HoZ is a better or let's say more suitable shield than Exile. 3) The underrated feature FREEZES TARGET is again a feature that is very important for a paladin and hard to find in another item. When attacked, all normal monsters are completely immobilized and fall to pieces after being killed (even monsters immune to cold), so no summoner can revive them again. (this eliminates the typically boring chase of repeatedly revived fallens, fetish...) 4) And it's also good to mention the increase in maximum resistances against fire and cold, which together with + 45 (if lucky) all resistances are a better bonus than the + 50 all resistances that HoZ gives. So Exile gives the character a lot of stats that are unique and hard to find on other items. These are all stats that allow the paladin to survive in all possible situations. Exile is an extremely powerful defensive shield that characters like smiters and zealots will take full advantage of. Because of these two builds this shield exists. The opposite of Exile can be considered Phoenix, which is a shield for offensive characters who do not want the curse of life tap and want more damage. However, Phoenix suffers from Firestorm delay, which is annoying and makes its increased damage not worth it much. Simply put, HoZ is a shield for casters, while Exile (and Phoenix) is a shield for melee fighters. Simple.
@dudditz
4 жыл бұрын
HoZ upped for pve smiter Spirit st for hdin Exile st (yes rather block then def, also st has better avg smite dmg) for zeal or whatever showoff But everyone has his own opinion
@lrmcatspaw1
3 жыл бұрын
Spirit for hammerdins? NEVER THOUGHT about that one.... :D
@Necryre_Nemesyr
3 жыл бұрын
Upped hoz with dracs for most content, evexile with loh gloves for ubers... how is this even a debate?
@joeyfowler1919
4 жыл бұрын
Both have uses that cannot be ignored. Your personal build can support either shield without major penalties.
@lrmcatspaw1
3 жыл бұрын
Ive played this game for many years and here is what I learned: Smiters can put 1 point in zeal and clear most content with using just zeal. Because Grief ignores target defence on normal mobs, this is great to clear packs faster. Because bosses and super uniqes are not affected by ignore target defence, you will want to use smite, so life tap becomes a must. For mobs, Phoneix is the best with zeal. For bosses, ubers, exile by far. The reason? If you have enought defence block and health (lets call them defensive layers), when uber mephisto lands a very good hit on you with light/conviction and you drop low, you want those two defensive layers (defence/block) to keep you alive till your smite heals you up. The most likely thing to kill you here will be a random stunt. This is why exile is so good. Good zaka is for hammerdin. Exile is for bosses/ubers. Phoenix is for trash mobs. If we are using CTA, and we dont want to be swapping gear, Exile all the way with lay of hands. the 350% is just ridicuouls. Finally, lets say you want to be "original". Id say, phoenix, zeal grief and soul drainers. the zeal and soul drainers work ok vs bosses. (thou it takes time for it to really shine). Or you can do something you like and ignore what other people say, I made a paladin that would heal from all elements once for shits and giggles.
@Djuntas
3 жыл бұрын
I like Phoenix as well, but the animation from firestorm tends to ruin it, its to bad. The thing with exile, as I talk in video, is that it free's up glove slot aka you can use crafted gg gloves over draculs.
@stefanmilanovic85
4 жыл бұрын
I don't really play paladin, only use smiter for Ubers, but I prefer Exile. It's better overall.
@negativeM
2 жыл бұрын
Hoz over exile any day. I'd choose that block and stats over lifetap and defense. It's insignificant unless you are a telesmite in pub duels or zvz duels. Sanctuary st is a good option for pvm too.
@skychaos87
3 жыл бұрын
9:28 Faster block rate is useless for Paladins cause with holy shield up, the breakpoint for fbr is 86%. FBR is only useful if you don't have holy shield, which i don't think there's any paladin builds out there that doesn't use it. In PvP against attack rating characters like Zealots, Exile is better. Against a Smiter or caster, HoZ is better. For PvM Exile is no doubt the better choice, the 9% vs 15% chance of monster hitting you is huge, it means with Exile monsters are about 40% less likely to hit you vs using HoZ. Not to mention there's also life tap, freeze target and increase maximum resists for greater survivability. But IMO, both shields are still very good regardless, they are probably 90% as good as the other shield even if it isn't the best in that category/situation/purpose.
@Djuntas
3 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks!
@mirage8753
2 жыл бұрын
runewords killed uniques
@aaronp9835
2 жыл бұрын
I have both shields and i will say that there are equally amazing. The freeze target is really rice as well as life tap on Exile. I use Hoz for solo and Exile when im on Players 8 or doing ubers
@nolan6137
Жыл бұрын
Smiter vs a Barb, exile hands down for the massive defence.
@wisdomandy9361
2 жыл бұрын
Btw WF is better than faith. You put faith on your merc.
@Djuntas
2 жыл бұрын
And then loose out on reapers toll merc and highlord amulet`? I cant say I will ever go behind that idea :)
@Fender178
4 жыл бұрын
With my normal pally builds either with a hammerdin or a Zealot I always use HOZ as my shield of choice because of the + skilers on HOZ. But If I was doing a smiter doing ubers I would use Exile on top with Laying of Hands because of the high defense of exile. Also Exile has a higher chance to proc life tap even though it is lower level life tap vs Dracs. Since really rich zealots are more than likely using grief then you don't need that much AR because of ignores targets defense and -25 to targets defense which helps with bosses.
@shootinjimmys3774
4 жыл бұрын
Just fyi faster block rate is irrelevant due to holy shield. Always gonna be two frame unless you can get 86+ faster block rate which would make it 1 frame.
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
oh, so the 30% doesn't let you reach a new breakpoint no matter the holy shield skill level etc?
@shootinjimmys3774
4 жыл бұрын
@@Djuntas correct. Just another reason why holy shield is amazingly strong.
@poopfacemcgoo4338
4 жыл бұрын
My zleaer uses a different setup,but I would suggest trying out infinity on your merc and a non eth HoZ with a ber in it. I like it for DR. I feel like it maxes out you dmg more than exiile. To me exile is if you need to be more defensive. I'll be making a vid about it soon too!
@poopfacemcgoo4338
4 жыл бұрын
Btw love your vids. I watch them a lot. Great references, with tons of "Insight" Get it ;)
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
Reapers toll is to strong on melee builds. Also helps break physical immunes. But yes, using zaka gives you options with the socket, its kinda good.
@chrisvids1820
4 жыл бұрын
I used to do Ubers with my do everything smiter, didn't change gear. Exile, enigma, grief, COA, gore riders, dracs, dungos, can't remember ammy. I could have used more CB but I casted life tap for dayzzz
@unexplainedwearenotalone3537
4 жыл бұрын
Exile better for foh zeal defence matter low dmg reduced and zaka only block up help u and exile help defence Merc or team party exile 4 ever.
@blacktemplar7102
4 жыл бұрын
Herold also increas the damage by a lot the +4 to skill combat increas it nicely there is only a bug how doesnt show it all +10max damage is wrong calculated and only added in the Profile. in reality it get increased by Zeal and Fanatism so you do around 10% more damage too with it. vs many monsters the faster Block rate also compansate for that the enemy hit you more often around 30%. vs Boss monster the different isnt that high. Fazit: the bonus of atackrating the resis, +5-20% more damage (depend on gear) makes it just better. and more important its easy to get even when not ethereal and just with a Diamond or Um sockeled it make a lot of varity of gear posible.
@thumper5839
Жыл бұрын
Hey djuntas, what type of builds would an ER/AR eth base exile be good for? Smiter?
@Djuntas
Жыл бұрын
Yeah its mostly a pvp base. In PvM you would mostly always want +45 all res bases.
@jivan9649
3 жыл бұрын
For me exile is what im always looking for, it makes end game content easier.
@Djuntas
3 жыл бұрын
For sure, I like it a lot as well. But on a budget for pvm zaka and draculs makes sense.
@jivan9649
3 жыл бұрын
@@Djuntas oh yeah on budget for sure
@johnfadds6089
Жыл бұрын
I only play FoH/Smiter hybrid, so Zak wins :)
@Senedras
3 жыл бұрын
You guys got no idea do you. To free up a hand slot makes up more damage that a couple of combat skills with herald. with a nice blood craft or LoH you would easily replace draculs witch i think are overated...not to mention the max res and Def.For pvm purposes id pick exile any time of the day especially on ubers.
@Djuntas
3 жыл бұрын
yea, LOH or crafted gloves are huge if you need the lifetap :)
@ZxChrono
2 жыл бұрын
Why would we even be playing a Zealot for Ubers? Smiter is just way better for that job.
@Djuntas
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, 1 point into smite is usually enough :)
@dariorivolta5925
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't use enigma on a non caster in pvm
@Th0ughtf0rce
4 жыл бұрын
Is there any reliable way or online calculator to estimate the actual damage we do with smite? Since this is probably the most notorious example of LCS (next to Grief damage)
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
Hm...We'll, googling finds a lot of hits. Maybe this helps, forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=40607092&p= else just google "smite damage diablo 2"
@paracelsus179
4 жыл бұрын
A zakarum sheild is best for smite. All Elite pally shields avg dmg is 46...zakarum sheild dmg is 46-46, so in essence, it hits avg dmg spot on. So eth upped hoz zod'ed is the best with the plus skills.
@luanbk91
4 жыл бұрын
How did you get the 2 legendary charms without using PlugY?
@GuyDudeman97
4 жыл бұрын
Or...how about use a max res sanctuary sheild?
@dude_8434
4 жыл бұрын
A Very good choice
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
yea its very cool as well, if you need the resist. Good budget option at least.
@finalcam1740
4 жыл бұрын
Only useful if you need the resistance but its arguable that you can trade the mal rune for a hoz so what is the point when hoz clearly wins.
@GuyDudeman97
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, damage would be a bit lower, but the more res and higher block rate could free up more inventory for other stuff possibly. Just a thought tho, not much to debate when their all good items
@aaronp9835
2 жыл бұрын
Hoz-pvm Exile-pvp/uber
@fredrikxx2867
2 жыл бұрын
Depends if you shit high runes or if you dont...
@Djuntas
2 жыл бұрын
Thats true, right now Exile price to performance is rather lacking. I see that pala bases are somewhat cheaper now, but the runes are still pretty high, a max drop of like 30-40% of prices since d2r launch. But eventually it will be much cheaper.
@AndyGamezoldschool
4 жыл бұрын
Instead use the Amazon bow that has life tap xD
@cChampen
4 жыл бұрын
Why even mention FBR ?? If you have holy shield your FBR is set to 2 frames with even 0 FBR the only way you can make that better is having 86% FBR and that only gives you 1 frame less. Also def is so misunderstod only reason you need def is in pvp cuz every time you run your crazy 40k def is set to 0 so i will never pick exile over HoZ.. not that HoZ is overpowered i think in term of pvm, hardcore and what not stormshield or phoenix is better. But if the debat is Exile vs HoZ i will pick Hoz every time in pvm and Exile every time in pvp.. easy as that IMO
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
yea, other comment pointed out the break point :D Holy shield is very strong. Thanks for info.
@finalcam1740
4 жыл бұрын
I like the lifetap for pve on my current zealer/smite on PoD. I have a nice hoz also but the exile casting lifetap is just too good. Perhaps if I had a last wish I would prefer hoz.
@Jefecino
4 жыл бұрын
im thinking about make sanctuary runeword, and i have zakarum, need help!!! what is better?
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
Use zaka, better stats. Sure resist is less, but if you badly need it can use perf diamond or um.
@WardenOfTerra
3 жыл бұрын
Sigon shield.
@sonithaiboy1161
4 жыл бұрын
Zakarum !! One and Only
@senioy
2 жыл бұрын
how on earth are u supposed to find an eth vortex +45 shield ?! U can play D2 for ur entire life and never ever see that thing...
@Djuntas
2 жыл бұрын
Such bases will be hard to find yes, but that is why you need trading. Right now a lower eth vortex with not 45 res is about ber/jah worth, maybe less. And a 45 eth vortex is like 2-3 high runes I think. But over time prices will drop, or just get a cheaper base for now.
@senioy
2 жыл бұрын
@@Djuntas Well I play single player. So... yea. :D
@Djuntas
2 жыл бұрын
@@senioy yeah, then you have little choice. Anyway best I found in d2r is a medium base 4 sox 30 all res. But I see online vortex non-eth is not to costly.
@dude_8434
4 жыл бұрын
Why String of Ears over Verdungo?
@jasonspring2034
4 жыл бұрын
It's not string of ears. But I was wondering the belt slot as well.
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
its a high-end resist belt. I liked it more over verdungo's. This is not a guide for the gear I use through, do talk about it in the actual guide I did some time ago :)
@dude_8434
4 жыл бұрын
I say HoZ myself
@rivertonrentalswy
2 жыл бұрын
How is your belts defense so low!?
@Djuntas
2 жыл бұрын
Just a edit mistake most likely.
@Ai2K7
4 жыл бұрын
lol is this closed bnet? for some reason i doubt a pvmer would have those perfect crafted gloves etc lolol
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
Yea, this is offline for testing. Unless you have deep pockets its hard to trade for some of the items shown online.
@chiseler151
4 жыл бұрын
ive never seen a spiderweb sash with 10 defense before
@ImVeryBrad
4 жыл бұрын
The items are all made in hero editor. All the rollable stats are legit but some of the defense or such may be off a little
@chiseler151
4 жыл бұрын
@@ImVeryBrad spiderweb sash is at least 50 defense
@chiseler151
4 жыл бұрын
@@ImVeryBrad idk what hero editor is
@ImVeryBrad
4 жыл бұрын
@@chiseler151 it's a progr that can create characters and items. Not legit stuff but most ppl use it for build testing like this video
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
yea I just forgot to edit it. A badly made item ;) But yes the program is good to test things...to level a character to 85-90, and then gear it sure takes time
@venganzaxghost
3 жыл бұрын
VS exile!!!!
@wedgeantilles1498
4 жыл бұрын
Eth vortex 45 all res.
@Reliq.
4 жыл бұрын
u dont even have maxblock with exile -.- perfect gear but no maxblock shame on u ;D
@Tratoxino
3 жыл бұрын
Why not phoenix? :-P
@Djuntas
3 жыл бұрын
Tried it before on zealot paladin - The firestorm proc is annoying to deal with sadly.
@89qwyg9yqa34t
3 жыл бұрын
Why do people like zeal paladins? They are explicitly inferior to smiters in every way. If you're zeal, then your shield doesn't even matter. It's just a stat placeholder. One thing you're missing is that paladin shield bases for runewords usually have 40+% resist-all, or 65% enhanced damage, which might seem small except that your smite damage with grief can use the enhanced damage from shields. In PvP, I could just run away from a zealer and have my #2 weapon switch to FoH/Conviction (+FoH/Conviction CTA) and smash them to the ground. Zealer could charge, sure, but they have to be in melee range for zeal to work. Of course, if I was actually serious, I'd just 2-hit them with smite while taking no damage.
@Djuntas
3 жыл бұрын
Erhm, maybe for PvP smite is the meta...but for PvM aka what D2 is about, zealer is the only way :P Also see my Tesladin.
@89qwyg9yqa34t
3 жыл бұрын
@@Djuntas For PvM, it's hammerdin. The only place you have magic immunes that matter are the second Baal wave and that can be fixed with a merc. Zeal is D-tier in everything.
@Djuntas
3 жыл бұрын
@@89qwyg9yqa34tSure you can say hammer is strong, but you can have both builds you know :) I enjoy my tesladin more than hammer really.
@xXxSwishxXx
4 жыл бұрын
PvP = Hoz PvM = Exile
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
Exile for higher smite dmg, absorb stacking and defense or ?
@xXxSwishxXx
4 жыл бұрын
I don't necessary agree with the higher damage, but that and the life leach from life tap. With higher defense monsters can't hit you.However In PvP defense is pretty worthless. (In most cases) Not to mention most people consider life tap bm. I am not going to get into that though. My example : with exile my smiter does 2100 - 3.3k dmg. With eth hoz I do 3.1k -3.1k. I would much rather that consistent 3k dmg then a chance to do 200 more damage and potentially 1k less damage. Just my two cents love your videos man. Thanks for keeping Diablo 2 alive. Best game ever made hands down.
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
@@xXxSwishxXx Thanks :D Your legend too, your old videos were fine.
@xXxSwishxXx
3 жыл бұрын
@PJ20jr TLDR of this comment. lol PvP/PvM = Hoz PvM = Exile
@General-Gauder
4 жыл бұрын
noobs = Exile pros = Zaka Thats it
@Djuntas
4 жыл бұрын
We'll xD ...I mean, okay. Cant disagree either, but hopefully the video is still of some use to people.
@General-Gauder
4 жыл бұрын
@@Djuntas ;)
@Amoeby
3 жыл бұрын
That's insane how childish you are
@89qwyg9yqa34t
3 жыл бұрын
I guess that would make sense. Back in the day, every time I destroyed a zaka smiter with my Exile, they'd call me a noob and whined about lifetap. "Noob" was the de-facto "I admit that you are better than me" expression in those days.
@General-Gauder
3 жыл бұрын
@@89qwyg9yqa34t And you really think that you only won because of that Item? I don't Think so by the way with Dracs you would have done more DMG.
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