why does the V.90 56k have two bell sounds before it continues the training?
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
It's a part of the V.90 spec called the Digital Impairment Learning sequence (DIL). The analog (client) modem asks the digital (ISP) modem to send a set of symbols (sounds). When the analog modem receives those symbols, it can compare the sound it asked for and the sound it received to determine how it was degraded by any digital conversions along the path from the ISP, and then adjust the connection speed to compensate. How the digital signal is degraded might be affected by the CODEC used, things like Robbed Bit Signalling, etc. The interesting thing here is that the V.90 spec doesn't actually specify what the DIL sounds should be, just that the digital modem should send whatever the analog modem asks for. The result is that it can sound quite different for different client modems. US Robotics modems tend to have those two 'BONG' sounds, while Rockwell chipsets have a weird sort of low-frequency feedback-loop sound that gets louder and louder. There's a bunch of different V.90 modem chipsets, and they all sound different.
@XENON2028
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet that's really intresting, so it's to train the connection so that it can compensate for any analog to digital conversions and stuff right?
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
@@XENON2028 Yep! Technically it's to compensate for digital to analog conversions, as opposed to the other way around, but that's the gist.
@XENON2028
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet ah ok, that makes sense
@elpechos
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet Wow, cool. I've only ever heard the Rockwell sounds I think. I didn't know there was others. I've not heard the two bongs before.
@jonothanthrace1530
2 жыл бұрын
It's so weird hearing some of these playing so briefly; I'm used to the handshaking taking at least 30 seconds.
@Boemel
2 жыл бұрын
i thought that too, i had an awful copper phone line dangling from wood poles came in front of the house, then had to ran a cable all the to the back where the desk was.
@pyeltd.5457
2 жыл бұрын
I has 5G lolz
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
I remember the lousy connections too, and it really does take a lot longer. I've been replicating them with my RJ-11 to handset adapters in a few tests. I'd like to find a reproducible way to artificially degrade a line and reproduce the longer handshakes.
@bobthecannibal1
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet two RJ-11 sockets and a couple spools worth of wire between them. You might want to stretch the loop out to your whole property boundary to get the most interference.
@navigatorofnone
2 жыл бұрын
a 30 second handshake is too slow even using a 1400 baud.
@alexvalero8755
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that someone invested its time to acuratelly transcribe the modem noises into subtitles, made me smile. Laughed my ass off LOL, I might have a problem.
@oldm9228
2 жыл бұрын
Same here the subtitles being on point and on cue was hilarious
@14768
2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god i'm so glad I read this comment, that is freaking hilarious. They are so accurate.
@litenantjv
2 жыл бұрын
Boooooooooonnnnnnnng
@alexvalero8755
2 жыл бұрын
@@litenantjv Deep words
@I.C.Weiner
2 жыл бұрын
Your actually reading the script. The sounds you hear are actually from Michael Winslow.
@Puppy80
2 жыл бұрын
I kept waiting for the "Welcome" sound from AOL at the end of the 56K connection 😄
@CableFlame
2 жыл бұрын
"You've Got Mail!"
@markm0000
2 жыл бұрын
@@jkeelsnc Goodbye sweet Prince
@jamesduncan6729
2 жыл бұрын
Those sounds will be forever burned into my brain
@jimmym3352
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesduncan6729 It will probably be the last thing I think of before I die.
@leexgx
2 жыл бұрын
I sure got my money worth out of AOL (mine was in nearly constantly because I used the works AOL account at home witch nocks the work one off until you reconnect then home goes off) I used a software caching proxy server, seeing Windows updates going at 100mbs speeds was amazing (wasn't until broadband was available via cable we upped to 1gbe networking and eventually stop using the proxy once capped speeds past 10mbs was available
@ophello
2 жыл бұрын
I remember upgrading from 14.4 to 56kbps and thinking “wow, I can download a 2.3Mb file in under 20 minutes? THIS IS SURELY THE FUTURE!”
@nyceyes
2 жыл бұрын
Not only the sounds, but the whole setup was nicely and neatly done, demonstrating the speed of the monitor renders, too. Excellent. 🎉
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!
@brodriguez11000
2 жыл бұрын
Now try shoving a modern web page through that.
@jamegumb7298
2 жыл бұрын
@@brodriguez11000 A magazine did a test (2-3 years back) where they found most modern webpages will not load (properly) on a 56K and many scripts will fail to execute and time out.
@RJARRRPCGP
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamegumb7298 Sounds like the scripts are set to time out a lot sooner now, so that they don't take as long to proceed. Now, even ADSL at 14 Mbps down and 700 Kbps up, will be painful!
@knerduno5942
Жыл бұрын
Too bad it was mislabeled. Modems were listed in BAUD rate until they reached 4800 Baud. Then they switched over to Bps. Reason is from what I understand, the US FCC has a limit of 2400 Baud on the telephone system. So they had to switch over to a digital to analog system to try to cram more bits flowing over the analog telephone system with only 4800 Baud available to fit all that info within it.
@randomgeocacher
2 жыл бұрын
Those were the days :) remember hosting my BBS and seeing my friends phone number with something weird like 1200/75 connection, calling him asking wtf he’s trying to connect with giving those weird setups… and him answering that he was screaming and whistling, thinking my BBS had pre-connection audio on. So apparently humans can successfully perform some of the modem handshakes.
@repatch43
2 жыл бұрын
What most people don't realize is the hardest one of those to get working was the 56K connection since it requires digital on one side (hence the ISDN modem). BRAVO!
@aususer415
2 жыл бұрын
Umm.. as an ex-modem tech… I disagree. We use to setup back-to-back 56k links all day.. we even had a dialler (like this one) to do so. It was all in the s-register setup. We also had 56k modem racks for bbs systems so they could run their systems too (over pstn… )
@repatch43
2 жыл бұрын
@@aususer415 The point is you can't just connect two consumer 56K modems to each other and get a 56k connection, unlike ALL prior standards where you could do that. You need a digital to analog conversion in the mix to get the 56k class connection.
@kleetus92
2 жыл бұрын
@@repatch43 Um.... yes you can. Did it all the time in the 90's.
@repatch43
2 жыл бұрын
@@kleetus92 Sorry, no you can't. You'll get a connection, but it won't be above 33k, sorry. The modes above 33k only worked because the modems knew that the source was digital and were able to detect levels based on that assumption. It just doesn't work in the pure analog domain. Why would the OP have an ISDN modem in the mix for the 56k example?
@kleetus92
2 жыл бұрын
@@repatch43 No idea, but in the last example, he has 3 modems out there so... He also used the 56K modem on the laptop side for all the examples with the exception of the 300 baud. didn't have 2 56k Externals. Where the logic falls apart is if it has to have an ISDN line to work, how the hell does it make it out of the house on POTS?
@Fitzroyfallz
2 жыл бұрын
I was terrified of these sounds as a kid. I could hear my parents using it in the next room after I’d gone to bed and had no idea what it was. To this day I still find it pretty creepy!
@_BangDroid_
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I find that so funny
@johndododoe1411
Жыл бұрын
Perfect example of how hiding a good part of life is a bad idea for bringing up children .
@Fitzroyfallz
Жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 ???
@lexacutable
11 ай бұрын
@@johndododoe1411wut, that's such a bizarre leap
@Axofhasquit
9 ай бұрын
Id be scared of operating the bell 103 in a dark room
@jesseg7757
2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh...the sounds of my entire childhood in one youtube video.
@Ghandacity
2 жыл бұрын
That hollow echo for 56K was the sweetest sound. Until line quality degraded and then it switched to the static with slightly quieter static for 33.6. If it repeated the static again, but without the quieter one, it was time to break and redial.
@RJARRRPCGP
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a buggy 56K modem that I also had, where it was notorious for randomly negotiating at 26.4 Kbps! That was on one of my PCs in 2004, IIRC.
@CrArC
2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of cool stuff I like to see on KZitem. Definitely V.90 56K was most familiar to me! I'm surprised to see how fast the connection process was at the lower baud rates though, I guess there was less to negotiate once the connection was made.
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the V.90 in particular is an eternity. I have a non-upgraded USR X2 modem that will connect to the I-modem using X2 instead of V.90, and it's a lot quicker, though obviously still a lot longer than, say, V.22.
@mobber2k
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet how do you upgrade the modem? i have an 33.6 spotster and a 56k x2 too
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
US Robotics still hosts the files to do it. They're little DOS programs. For example: www.usr-emea.com/support/s-prod-template.asp?loc=emea&prod=sportster
@greggv8
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet I remember finding the upgrade files on a Russian website to get the ones USR wanted money for.
@nickpalance3622
2 жыл бұрын
Ahh … 300 baud. It’s like I’m a freshman in high school again. Saved up and bought a 1200 within a year and half. Not just twice as fast but THREE TIMES faster. I could watch (and read and comprehend) the text fill the screen at 300 but 1200 was hard. And in college I went 2400 as that became affordable. Talk about light speed! I was surprised by how long it took to connect with my 28.8 (not shown in the video, which skips from 14.4 to 33.6) as I’d been so used to the brevity of 2400 and slower. As compared to someone who only knew the faster modems with slower handshake process being surprised at how quickly the slower modems connected. I guess when you’re slow you’ve got no time to waste on longer handshakes. Of course as soon as I bought my 28.8, 33.6 came out. FWIW, I recall my 28.8 sounding like the 33.6 (vs 14.4). Probably didn’t matter that I didn’t have faster as my phone line often had a little noise. Not much but enough that I didn’t always get full speed. A 33.6 or 56 would likely always have dropped down to a slower speed. Couldn’t wait to get my cable modem as soon as it was offered in town (2001).
@scottlarson1548
2 жыл бұрын
In 1982 I built a 300 baud modem from a schematic in Popular Electronics. The hard part was that I had to tune it and I had nothing to tune it with. So I called up a local BBS over and over and held down a key on the computer while I turned the potentiometer back and forth. It took several calls until by chance I hit the right frequency and the key echoed back.
@cr1901
Жыл бұрын
Do you know if that schematic is available/archived online anywhere?
@scottlarson1548
Жыл бұрын
@@cr1901 All the Popular Electronics issues are archived online but I have no idea which one.
@EpicSqu1rrel
11 ай бұрын
damm you legend
@scottlarson1548
11 ай бұрын
@@EpicSqu1rrel That's definitely how I felt at the time.
@philojudaeusofalexandria9556
8 ай бұрын
Haha genius! I ran a BBS in the late 80s on my 2400 modem :)
@10p6
2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day of dialup, it was so nice to work nights in tech support and have sole access to a T3 line.
@Logan0123
2 жыл бұрын
The 56k dialup tone is really bringing back memories of using my mom’s clunky Dell laptop to connect to AOL and hop on RuneScape :)
@edbe7385
2 жыл бұрын
I used to work at US Robotics, this was my life for years, if I remember correctly the tail end of the connection that last swoosh sound on all the connections was the compression v42bis / MNP5. We used to be able to tell what the users connections were by ear. Back in the day before the 3 Com merger it was an amazing place to work at.
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
That's really cool! I remember thinking in high school that I'd want to work for USR someday. What did you do there, if you don't mind me asking?
@tubeDude48
2 жыл бұрын
I see the US Robotics. I worked for *Racal-Vadic* in the '70's. I help design the 9600 Bps Model. And was on the "Standards Comity" that help adopt the "at" command set.
@davidmarquesneves
2 жыл бұрын
ATZ AT&F1 ATDT....
@jrhees123
2 жыл бұрын
You probably never imagined that the AT command sets would continue to live on well past modems!
@breakallthethings
Жыл бұрын
A Racal Vadic 1200 baud modem was my first, complete with the non Hayes command set. Control E, enter, then… I can’t remember. Thanks for the memory, though. :)
@pukalo
Жыл бұрын
Dial up modems make some of my favourite sound effects of all time.
@PiPArtemis
2 жыл бұрын
It's fun watching this having previously watched a video breaking down what each tone is doing on the 56k and seeing how it progressed over the years into the more complex series of handshakes and screeches it ends up being at the end
@NoNameAtAll2
2 жыл бұрын
how can I find that vid?
@nickwallette6201
2 жыл бұрын
This sounds like something I want to see.
@biohazardousBiker
2 жыл бұрын
F
@SonicBoone56
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, they just tacked more stuff on at the end
@PiPArtemis
2 жыл бұрын
@@NoNameAtAll2 it's called "Why Dial Up Sounds the Way it Does" by The Sacred Gamer here on YT
@mikewilliams9517
Жыл бұрын
Ahh man the sounds of my 20's. Loved to hear that sound when connecting to my local BBS's.
@lAMNOTGOOMBA
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I had been hoping to finally hear all these recorded with the original equipment.
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! I know there are a lot of videos already out there with a few modem sounds, but I really want to try to capture and document the original sounds using original equipment that you can actually see doing its thing (not that there's a ton to see), at least as much as my collection would allow. I'm glad you liked it!
@JC20XX
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet it's history worth documenting. Subscribed.
@Gr8thxAlot
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the walk down memory lane. I purposely kept dial-up internet until 2006, so I wouldn't waste too much time online. :-)
@BOBXFILES2374a
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, that Modem sound! Dialing up "Bulletin Boards" in 1979! I didn't know the old modems ever got up to 14,400 or 33,600. Just right for my 386! Thanks!
@Trance88
2 жыл бұрын
Dang! You must've either been pretty wealthy to own such equipment or had access to government equipment to do that back then.
@IGLArocknroll
Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, this has brought back some memories. Back in the day (somewhere around 2002) my school still had 56Kbps modems to connect us to the internet. They've upgraded to a DOCSIS cable modem in late 2004 as far as I can remember. We haven't had a proper internet connection at home until 2007, because it was prohibitively expensive. A 5/1Mbps ADSL would've costed something like 1/5th of my father's monthly wage, and the 768/312kbps ISDN was also not cheap either, plus the toll-free part of it was limited to something like 50 hours or 5 GBs if my mind serves me right. In 2007, a new ISP appeared at my location, which has offered a variety of FTTB services for low prices, and we got a 20/10 Mbps service in early September, 2007. Fun fact: some 14 years later the ISP I've mentioned has hired me to work for them, lol.
@ChrisNorris
2 жыл бұрын
back in mid 80s I used to dial up my local X25 access point and poke about the various institutions found on there. The access point modem had a very short initial carrier period before the line was disconnected. My 1200 baud modem couldn't respond that quickly so I became very adept at whistling the response tone into my handset keeping the other end responding while my modem caught up! I still can whistle that pure tone today.
@pyeltd.5457
2 жыл бұрын
Or you could of just brought as iPhone and WiFi like normal people
@jacobplayzclassics
2 жыл бұрын
@@pyeltd.5457 he said in the mid 80s
@ChrisNorris
2 жыл бұрын
@@pyeltd.5457 I'm pretty sure I had a PYE RTTY radio modem as well. Can't be 100% certain though. A local oddments shop had a myriad of used radio and telecoms equipment that I used to rummage through and buy.
@brodriguez11000
2 жыл бұрын
Captain Crunch is that you?
@DuckInGameStop
2 жыл бұрын
@@pyeltd.5457 Lol, maybe if he was a time traveler...
@some1csgo
2 жыл бұрын
That laptop is the one I grew up with; it‘s the reason I went into IT, the reason for where I am now. Thanks for sharing the video :)
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out! I love that laptop to bits, it was the one I had in high school and it also motivated my career a lot too. Though, the one I had in high school was the CS with the dual-scan screen and no CD drive. I upgraded when I started recollecting my old machines again ;)
@Tanivan
2 жыл бұрын
Those sounds are forever burnt into my memory. I used to be able to identify the 14.4, 28.8, and 33.6 handshakes based on some of the minor differences.
@davidmarquesneves
2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@AaronOfMpls
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile I never got to hear the 56k handshake IRL, since we never got around to buying a 56K modem. Fastest we had was 33.6k before we went to broadband in 2000.
@RJARRRPCGP
2 жыл бұрын
@cybhunter007 I did, because my family's Pentium 133 system that was made in 1996, had a 28.8K modem, LOL. Literally connected with that modem in 2001 to connect to the motherboard manufacturer's web site for the motherboard of my crash-city first-Athlon build, (T-bird 900 MHz with Soyo SY-K7VTA-B motherboard with buggy BIOS) where it kept freezing at defaults!
@lornenix2243
2 жыл бұрын
The Closed Captioning on this video is gold.
@pabblo1
2 жыл бұрын
It's cool to see videos comparing dial-up modem sounds. Unfortunately, I never experienced the nostalgia with dialup, due to me only starting to get internet in the early 2000s, when broadband internet started to be a thing.
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
The sound is super nostalgic for me and I imagine a lot of people around my age. I mean, I switched to cable net as soon as I possibly could, but there was something to be said about dialing up a BBS or the net - hearing the sound that was a prelude to fun. The feeling reminds me of the way the startup sound of a Gameboy or Playstation makes me feel.
@cursorguy
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet Yeah now that I think about it the dial-up tone sounds like you’re about to be taken to another dimension or something lol
@lunaumbra5179
2 жыл бұрын
Sucks to be you nerd. 😋
@Wflash00
2 жыл бұрын
We had dialup well until I was like 4 or 5; I never experienced it myself, but my mom would use the computer everyday for work and I'd always get a kick out of the sound whenever she went on
@MarkWhich
2 жыл бұрын
You didn't miss much, it was extremely slow and disconnections were too common.
@thihal123
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this brings back memories! The ones I’m most familiar with are the 33.6, 56k, and 2400 baud modem connection sounds. My first experience with internet was in the early 90s just before mass public recognition of internet. How far we’ve come!
@MarkRose1337
2 жыл бұрын
The same speeds I used. All in 1999, in fact. The parents took the main computer away, but I had another with a Hayes 2400B. Useless for web browsing with images, but enough to chat on IRC.
@MichaelEdelman1954
2 жыл бұрын
300bps? Auto dial? Luxury! I started with 110bps, and I had to dial the phone. 😉
@Broadercasting
2 жыл бұрын
Of course we had it tough, amateur RTTY at 45.45 baud! 😆
@Matt-dk3wl
Жыл бұрын
I used to run a BBS back in the 90s. You just ran through my childhood. Always loved the BONG BONG BONG 28.8 added.
@tess4647
2 жыл бұрын
I love that Cobalt cube of yours! So cool. Thanks for sharing this blast from the past.
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!
@motalasuger
2 жыл бұрын
Now there is something I haven’t seen myself since school back in ~2001, guess it’s been a few years by now, and as I recall the specs of the cobalt cube were pretty meager even by the standards of when it was made. :)
@spaceheater3868
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the captioning, deaf people really can just hear the magic with the incredible detail of the sounds
@rommix0
2 жыл бұрын
About a year ago, I had a Courier modem and a VOiP over Google Voice. It was fun being able to log into the dial-up BBS's that are still around. Heck even NetZero worked for a bit.
@midixiewrecked7011
2 жыл бұрын
Was that hard to set up??
@rommix0
Жыл бұрын
@@midixiewrecked7011 It wasn't too bad. I did have to set up the latency and echo cancellation settings in the VOiP settings. That's really the only tricky part.
@driftke70
Жыл бұрын
brings a tear to my eye, some of the most exciting times of my childhood were me and my brothers firing up a sesh with those noises.
@notafanboy250
2 жыл бұрын
So many happy memories in a 2 minute video. Thanks for the upload!
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@davidboudreau4054
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't have the Bell modem, but I had every one of the US Robotics modems you displayed. Man what a flashback....thank you!
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@steeviebops
2 жыл бұрын
Love this! I remember K56Flex too, it sounded like an extended V.34 handshake.
@TreadTheDonutDuck
Жыл бұрын
I love that the actual data being transferred is just a mock-Dankpods microphone test and ASCII art of Frank
@retrocet
Жыл бұрын
;)
@AZREDFERN
Жыл бұрын
We recently switched away from the old US robotics 56k modems for long distance tank gauging to an Ethernet connection. The dial-up sound was dreaded, because it meant it was having a hard time connecting or the automatic tank gauge was down. Which meant you had to send a runner to get the levels, or manually stick the tanks. If you were working the control center, it meant you were in for a long night doing extra math, determining the problem, and calling in a work order.
@MatthewFearnley
2 жыл бұрын
1:23 "Bee-ee-ee, wuurrrh, didee, dideedi! Chrhrhrhhrrhrhhrhhrhrhhrhr" In '97 I think I had a 56K modem. I seem to recall if it reached the "wuurrrh", you were probably good from there.
@RJARRRPCGP
2 жыл бұрын
'97=Probably 33.6 Kbps or 28.8 Kbps.
@MatthewFearnley
2 жыл бұрын
@@RJARRRPCGP You could be right.. my download speeds usually maxed out at 3.something KB/s, which would point to the lower speeds. I probably just assumed 7KB/s was a theoretical maximum, and there were other bottlenecks or overheads. I didn't know the specs of the modems we had, but certainly over the time I was on dialup 56K modems were in existence, and if I'd realised that we only had 33K, I would have been very interested in upgrading.
@Marshall7302
2 жыл бұрын
the subtitles.. are beautiful. literally tears in my eyes. well done
@Slurkz
2 жыл бұрын
Unique stuff! Loved it. Thanks so much for setting these configs up and creating the video 💜
@lucasrem
2 жыл бұрын
u still use serial connections? why so many freaks here, got lost, mad?
@pieterpennings9371
10 ай бұрын
Whoever did the subtitles for this video, i appreciate you
@ducktapepilot
2 жыл бұрын
Wow very cool demonstration! Never thought about how each connection speed sounded different. And seeing the data render on the screen at different speeds was a great idea. These sounds really bring back memories of simpler times! Excellent video!
@lucasrem
2 жыл бұрын
you still use serial communication? on what bit rate? Space, boats? Why you need this still?????
@ducktapepilot
2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem Of course, I use 56k dial up for all my internet browsing. Just yesterday, I went to google and the page is almost loaded already!
@foxyfoxington2651
2 жыл бұрын
The subtitles on this are amazing.
@stringthing420
9 ай бұрын
i love how there are subtitles for this
@inachu
2 жыл бұрын
I miss the one modem that had a bug in it and was dubbed the screaming cat modem. I had a modem that had a bug in it I used for my Amiga 500 that would max out at 600 baud but sometimes it would bug out and connect at 1200 baud and sometimes it would work! Around that time Microsoft introduced the multilink protocol so if we had multiple phone lines in the house we could use multiple modems and double the speed of our data transmission by dedicating 2 modems for data in and 2 modems data out. It was really great back then. Then Juno came out for free dialup email service then another in the 90's came out with free dialup internet. I abused those services like crazy. Dialing in then using a hack program to hide the ads in which they demanded to stay at the top of your monitor to show banner ads.
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
Was the free ISP NetZero? I also remember trying to get around the ads, though the best part of NetZero was being able to play Diablo II online for free when I was on the road. Good times. I never got to shotgun two modems like that! That's super cool! I always wanted to try it - I've been thinking about trying to set it up here at home and I have a quad 56K modem card on the way that I'm hoping to install into the Qube to try it out.
@tra-viskaiser8737
2 жыл бұрын
There was also freewwweb.. and a few others. It was sad when they went bust, but great to have free internet for a few years there. Sometimes I could get 8 or 10k downloads..
@greggv8
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet there weren't many ISPs that supported parallel connecting modems. ISTR one company made a shotgun modem that was two in one unit so it could work with a single 115K serial port.
@0LoneTech
2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of bugs, I had one 2400 baud modem that would accidentally trick the other end into using MNP 5 compression. I had to use a software implementation of MNP with it.
@jamesb1221222
2 жыл бұрын
You know.. Juno?
@samurijder9550
5 ай бұрын
Absolutely love the subtitles. Now I finally know what these machines are saying to eachother Cheers from the Netherlands
@ConstantlyDamaged
Жыл бұрын
That Cobalt machine is gorgeous, and brings back so many memories. In college I cut my teeth programming on SGI Indigo workstations, and then later some O2 ones. Further studies included machines such as an SGI Onyx (was used for teaching low level multiprocessing). It's wild to think how much different it is now that I can just import Python's multiprocessing library-instead of dealing with hardware spinlocks.
@jorgeandrade20
2 жыл бұрын
oh the nostalgia this had on me, thank you so much for posting this, as a kid from the 80's and 90's this brought me so much joy! It reminded me how we had to wait until midnight to dial because you didn't need to pay for pulses after midnight, those were the days!!!
@leafy_luca
4 ай бұрын
to whoever subtitled this, an immense thank you;
@gen_angry
2 жыл бұрын
dat 2400 baud, my childhood dialing into the local BBSes... it was a simpler and fun time for sure.
@AdamsBrew78
2 жыл бұрын
Those were the days! I was a bit of a late-comer to the BBS party, didn’t know about em as a kid in the 1980s - but they were a big part of my life in the early 90s. Even ran my own WWIV board as a pre-teen/early teens.
@op3l
2 жыл бұрын
Back in 1998 or so, having a US Robotics modem meant you were a baller. Nostalgic sounds and refreshing to hear 20 plus years later.
@mozomenku
11 ай бұрын
Subtitles are great
@magicstix0r
Жыл бұрын
The closed captions are what makes it worth it.
@thewatcher5271
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Man! Remember Telix & BBS's? Good Times!
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. The laptop on the right is actually running Telix! I just turned off the status and menu bars for the video ;)
@thewatcher5271
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet Well, Now I Feel Good & Bad All At The Same Time. I Feel Good That Someone Else Remembers Telix & BBS's & Bad That I Didn't Recognize It After All Those Years. I Probably Need To Check Out What Other Retro Stuff You Do.
@retrocet
2 жыл бұрын
@@thewatcher5271 Nah, don't feel bad. Without the menus it's just a bunch of DOS text, really. You'd recognize it with the normal UI I bet.
@TStheDeplorable
Жыл бұрын
These sounds were followed by a voice saying, "you've got mail!"
@DanielKerrAu
2 жыл бұрын
Those subtitles though. *Chef's kiss*
@ajs2120
2 жыл бұрын
Good memories here, makes you really appreciate what we have now.
@xys007
2 жыл бұрын
V.42bis compression algorithm used in V.90 connections was really good for compressing text files. From my experience it could achieve compression up to 90% for HTML files ... late in the night when servers were not so overloaded. Unfortunately it was useless for compressing JPG and GIF files, and since they were much larger portion of websites the gain from using V42bis compression was barely noticeable, but if you decided to serf without images on that's where it shined. All web browsers back then had option to turn off image loading, and web designers did care how their websites look without images ... Unfortunately those times are gone ... In end result you could have read whole site content before single image was been filed up. Yeah, you could see images being filled up line by line back then ... ;p
@pontiacg445
2 жыл бұрын
Now there are ads, so the page has to load in chunks that move the text and links around the page a good thirty times before the stupid pictures fully load. Somehow, inevitably, it's always an ad that moves to where you were trying to click. Automatically formatting pages piss me off. Somehow we've regressed, and calculating the layout of the website first is literally impossible...
@belstar1128
2 жыл бұрын
@@pontiacg445 Ad block exists now fortunately so its not all bad in modern times.
@brodriguez11000
2 жыл бұрын
Ah the days of Flash.
@jrhees123
2 жыл бұрын
As a matter of fact. The V.42bis compression often made jpg files *larger* due to the added overhead!
@tedwoe
2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, good ol' dial-up. Sometimes I miss the simpler days.
@Ironman1o1
11 ай бұрын
God, those first gen modems that still need a handset to work is such an iconic look.
@phatdpc
2 жыл бұрын
Seing the modems again brings tears to my eyes
@lagoozri9568
Жыл бұрын
thats the type of thing that makes a 24y TI guy shed a tear. these sounds are so beautiful, the meaning behind is its their own legend
@ka24det
2 жыл бұрын
I ran a BBS for a very short time in the late 80's. Memories.
@benevolencia4203
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, and the memories it brought back. Before the fax machine, my office had a quip machine, in the mid 80’s. It was a drum like a cylinder with the 8 1/2 x 11 paper wrapped around it. The drum would spin making a “quip~quip” sound. It would smell funny too, took a long time to send each page. Amazing how technology has changed just over the last few decades.
@Cosmetolog_G
2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing, how accurate subtitles are!
@loughkb
2 жыл бұрын
That, was a trip down memory lane. My first modem was a 300 baud Vicmodem hooked to a commodore VIC-20. I remember moving up through the tech and eventually feeling jealous of a friend with his really expensive hayes 56K smartmodem.
@CommentRedacted
Жыл бұрын
Oh man, listening to those sounds really brings back memories.
@iandrewc
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed seeing how much faster the text loaded each time the speed stepped up.
@hikerclarence7092
2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 96, so these are all a bit before my time. Yet that last one sounds so instantly familiar to me.
@The_Beatles_Guy
Жыл бұрын
I love how the message showed on the computer once connection is established talks about DankPods
@livevideorussia
24 күн бұрын
0:53 it failed the connection bro
@supahcomix
22 күн бұрын
No, it's just a really short handshake, the line quality is really good so it gets done quick
@LavenderSunrise
2 жыл бұрын
whoever did the subtitles you're the GOAT
@asdfasdfasdfasdeff
11 ай бұрын
I remember the excitement of running my own BBS and leaving the volume up when I would get callers. We would advertise our BBS on other ones with a forum. I'd lurk as a SysOp and initiate chats with people, some I still am friends with today. The Warez BBS' were the best to find I always found it crazy that people would connect for hours to upload 0 day stuff and tie up the line.
@nordeide
Жыл бұрын
There's a KZitem video for absolutely *everything* these days...! Thanks for reliving fond memories, and also thank you for the subtitles for the hearing impaired!
@Fizzyxd
2 жыл бұрын
It's cool as someone born after the year 2000 to see these things work, I knew they existed but I never knew what they looked like or how they worked.
@simonchurch.
2 жыл бұрын
This brings back memories of dialling up the gas lamp BBS system.
@sheepkind
5 ай бұрын
these captions are a work of art
@rtwose
Жыл бұрын
I used to work in a callcenter for an ISP doing tech support. I heard modems dialling out so so many times. Hearing some of these again (and the double-bong explanation for the 56k) is fantastic :D
@Haruki_Aikawa
Жыл бұрын
Hats off to the hero who subtitled this whole video
@EndrChe
2 жыл бұрын
These were the most accurate subtitles I’ve ever seen on KZitem
@djohnsto2
Жыл бұрын
Sweet! And those early cobalt servers were awesome - They were in a league of their own, total game changers.
@benjurqunov
2 жыл бұрын
Back about ’77. I had 300 baud on a dialup Teletype. In the morning, it recieved work orders stored on the dispatch server. Afternoons, used it to place materials orders to the warehouse.
@redsquirrelftw
11 ай бұрын
That last one is my childhood right there. The classic USR 56k "bong bong" sound.
@l.f.9060
11 ай бұрын
Interesting how the lower the modem speed the faster it connected. That's was something I would never know about, so thanks for that.
@bbartky
2 жыл бұрын
This is great. Thank you for doing this! To this day the best upgrade I ever experienced was going from 300 to 1200 baud in ‘85.
@TheGoodChap
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 90s kid and I legitimately didnt know that the infrastructure for dial up had been around a decade earlier. Its amazing how fast the internet blew up in the mid late 90s knowing that basically the same technology had been around in the mid 80s
@RJARRRPCGP
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGoodChap The internet already had a lot going on in the mid-late-1990s!
@W00PIE
Жыл бұрын
The good old V.90 boings 🥰 Haven't heard that for ages. I started with 2400 bps back in the day.
@justDIY
2 жыл бұрын
Oh the nostalgia is strong with this vid. I've owned and used many of the same modems, except my 300 baud and later 1200 baud were Tandy Color Computer models, and my 2400 baud was a ZOOM.
@Martin_from_SC
2 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories... I had 1200, 2400, 14.4, 28.8 and dual 56k modems at the end before going to cable in late 1996.
@robertshowe2417
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the trip down memory lane
@randomvids9507
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely don't miss those days
@Can8ian.
Жыл бұрын
I have no idea why I enjoyed that video, yet I did. Brings back memories I guess.
@mathgasm8484
2 жыл бұрын
I remember when my dad bought me a 56k modem for my pc. I was so happy to get internet to my room to play games or friends.
@vm1ka79
2 жыл бұрын
Was the best sound ever, to hear, when I had been trying multiple times, and then it finally connected. Can't even imagine nowadays trying to look something up, and not able to because it just won't log on for some reason. 😂😂
@XNLFutureTechnologies
Жыл бұрын
Lot's of others have already pointed out how neatly done the setup and configuration itself is. So let me just say this: Those caption! 🤣 PLEASE PEOPLE!! Turn on captions! It makes the video even better 🤣, must have been a pain in the relay to be THAT accurate with those captions 🤣 👍
@Kevin-mx1vi
2 жыл бұрын
I remember getting online with an acoustic coupler sometime in the early 80's. Establishing a reliable connection was tricky, to say the least, and a speed of 200 bits per second was cause for celebration ! 😄
@chronikss
Жыл бұрын
Man these give me the chills. Thanks for this, was really cool to see the text displayed on the monitor, really shows how bad 1200 was. I mean we were grateful for it, but yeah.
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