Diamondback doesn’t update their bikes often enough. They have one bike designed in the last 5 years. And they charge premium prices for bikes that are multiple generations of bikes behind. Thanks for the honest review.
@iffy_too4289
2 жыл бұрын
Its not an honest review because they're putting it up with current bikes. They're using it to make themselves look like journalists instead of marketers/promoters.
@stephenshepherd5068
2 жыл бұрын
@@REB4444 You could totally make one work...they are not terrible, just outdated and over priced. Seth does get paid to ride their bikes and hangs pretty nice parts on them.
@hardtailparty
2 жыл бұрын
Bravo, excellent review. I've only ridden the carbon one, but your comments were right in line with what I felt when I rode it. That's a tough trail, nice work riding it on a hardtail.
@iffy_too4289
2 жыл бұрын
No, its a hack job on an old scape goat bike to make themselves look honest.
@subiehills4052
2 жыл бұрын
@@iffy_too4289 explain
@Kovacs-sf1hi
2 жыл бұрын
@@iffy_too4289 Someone’s mad😂💀
@fgjcesar
Жыл бұрын
I've had it for a while now. GET RID OF THE TIRES. The rest of the specs are great. I switched to specialized ground control 27.5x3. Night and day difference. The geometry is great for trail riding and minor jumps. It keeps up just fine with my XC 29er buddies, and much faster than lots of dual suspensions. I was able to air up the tires on the first try with a hand pump. The plus bike is like a monster truck, plows through anything technical. Throw away the tires the day you get it, and maybe swap seat if it's uncomfortable for you.
@mike-fp6lq
2 жыл бұрын
The Diamondback Sync'r is actually a pretty good bike and it has pretty modern geometry. It has a 66 degree headtube angle and 440mm of reach. The only thing that I can think of that's even remotely "dated", if you want to call it that, is it's relatively short wheelbase at 1152mm on a size medium. It seems like most of their gripes had to do with the tires. I put a Continental Trail King on the front and a Maxxis High Roller II on the rear as soon as I got this bike and it does everything I need it to pretty well. I personally think trail bikes are getting too aggressive. It seems like they are just becoming scaled down enduro rigs. It seems like enduro is the standard that all bikes are measured against.
@riccochet704
2 жыл бұрын
This is the review you get from young people that don't know what bikes were like 10 years ago. It's not really a fair review. The Sync'r is more capable than most riders are experienced enough to utilize.
@therealridedmc
2 жыл бұрын
Pro’s: “It’s a way to get into mountain biking, but if you think you’ll like the sport this is probably not the bike for you”. Savage. Just savage.
@ZOB4
2 жыл бұрын
And that was in the Pros section - ouch.
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
2 жыл бұрын
I thought the quotes indicated a quote? I guess that's how you can interpret what he said, even though that's not what he said.
@endianAphones
2 жыл бұрын
"It's a bike"
@ctsk8f16
Жыл бұрын
They absolutely shit on everything that isn't a $10,000 top spec full suspension bike
@therealridedmc
Жыл бұрын
@@ctsk8f16 To be fair, it’s all they know. They do 3 laps on a “value bike” every 3rd year and then tell us their short comings… but as a counterpoint I don’t think the product managers at a lot of bike companies ever ride the entry level builds before sending them out the door. So if they do send them out for review and they get eviscerated, that’s kind of on them.
@MTB_Rider_96
2 жыл бұрын
A budget bike reviewed by people that would NEVER buy, or even ride, a budget bike - and neither would 90% of the Pinkbike viewership. That said, your review is spot-on for this bike. I sure I could build this bike with the same components for about $1100.
@destinhook3826
Жыл бұрын
Just ordered mine for $750. The absolute best price to spec hardtail on the market by a landslide. Killer sale
@vandengrey6912
Жыл бұрын
I was just looking at the same bike on Diamondbacks site for $750. Debating between that and the polygon Estrada 7. These decisions stress me out. Lol
@AkDigitalism
Жыл бұрын
Thinking about this too with the sale. Could you find anything comparable price wise with other brands? Seems like best sale by far from everything I’ve seen
@vandengrey6912
Жыл бұрын
@@AkDigitalism No nothing comparable. The polygon xtrada 7 was the only other one I was debating with this
@tommykb2898
Жыл бұрын
@@vandengrey6912 the xstrada 7 is a xc bike and the sync'r is a trail bike. They are very different. They have different geometry. Also, the Sync'r has way better parts on it and it's cheaper(was because now it isn't on sale anymore. I ordered the sync'r a couple of days ago and I'm pretty happy with my choice.
@vandengrey6912
Жыл бұрын
@@tommykb2898 What is an xc bike? I ordered the syncr as well. Coming Tuesday
@Pienimusta
2 жыл бұрын
This series will be great this year.
@BMXPete
2 жыл бұрын
I am no professional, but it looks like you were running way to much air in your tires. Then no where near enough in the fork. But I guess when you have brand bias you’re not concerned with a good set up. A 140 fork shouldn’t be bottoming out on 2 foot rock roll.
@marklouieadame
Жыл бұрын
Of course they will talk shit on this brand as they need to market the brand they are sponsored haha... pretty obvious right if diamond back start paying them they will receive high heaven praising
@nuclearguitarfare4653
Жыл бұрын
I noticed the improperly aired forks
@garretthoefer3989
Жыл бұрын
"1500 is a lot of money" ... that's true. But it's on sale and I just bought a new one at a bike shop for $750. For $750, I can deal with it not being the most liked of this test group. :) Using it for cruising and some light / moderate trail duty for the most part. I really feel it'll be all I need for now.. maybe ever
@offroad-adventure
Жыл бұрын
It's a great bike $750! Can't think of another one at this price point with these components.
@destinhook3826
Жыл бұрын
Bro I’ve taken mine to a shuttle park clearing 25ft jumps and 10ft drops, it’ll handle whatever you throw.
@user-ll6js7bc2o
Жыл бұрын
@@destinhook3826good to know. Just picked one up
@jltrack
2 жыл бұрын
I picked the same Sync’r up for $1220 in 2020. In terms of value, it couldn’t be beat at the time. Complaints are the seat tube length is too long. I ride an XL. Dropper is too short I upgraded to an older Fox Transfer, the wheelset is cheap and heavy, doesn’t roll that well. Recon fork is not great, I think the 46mm fork offset is too long for this bike, I upgraded to a Yari with a 42mm offset. The brakes are better than the competition at that price point. Tires are non-tubeless, I ran it with sealant anyway and it works. This bike is way more fun running a 27.5 x 2.6 tire. The reach isn’t super long but I like that I can throw this bike around and that’s how hardtails should be if you already have a full suspension. SRAM SX drivetrain works but not as well as Deore. $1500 is too much for this bike now but when I bought it, it was worth every penny. I love it, it’s super fun! And the frame is stout but it also has a compliant rear. There are better, more updated options now, but seeing bike prices these days, it was a steal
@MichaelAverycarhauler1969
2 жыл бұрын
Very well stated.
@riccochet704
2 жыл бұрын
At $1350 for today's pricing it's still a good buy. Compare it to Trek, Specialized, Giant with similar components and it's significantly cheaper.
@destinhook3826
Жыл бұрын
I just ordered one for $750 they have a black Friday deal. So stoked. I already have a stump jumper and a hardtail, but the hardtail is non boost with open dropouts on the frame.
@josiahmedina4972
2 жыл бұрын
These are the type of reviews that we need. Thank you PinkBike I appreciate the content.
@Thatdudedoes
Жыл бұрын
At $1500 it might be expensive but I just bought one on sale for $750... I wonder how they would rate it if they reviewed it at the $750 price point. 🤔
@ctsk8f16
Жыл бұрын
Just bought one too. Not on my list at first, but $750/free shipping? Find a better deal anywhere
@Thatdudedoes
Жыл бұрын
@@ctsk8f16 that's exactly how they got me! 🤣🤣🤣 SICK deal! Hope you enjoy your new Bike Man!
@derek2gloves
Жыл бұрын
$750 you can spend $250 on 2.6 Maxxis tires which solves majority of their stated issues, can upgrade to GX or SLX shifter /derailleur then there's nothing else to complain about. They have favorite and sponsored brands. This bikes geometry is also pretty modern and very similar as other bikes M/L that they rave about. Sync'r also comes with better Mt-500 brakes which they downplay. I believe other problem for them was they were riding a medium and really should have been on large.
@vandengrey6912
Жыл бұрын
@@Thatdudedoes Damnit. Think I'm going to get one too. Lol
@Thatdudedoes
Жыл бұрын
@@vandengrey6912 Hell yeah Man! This deal was too good to pass up. Enjoy your new bike! 🤙
@SpencerBaum
2 жыл бұрын
That was the best beta ad I've ever seen
@Phonophobia
2 жыл бұрын
A straight seat-tube with bottle-bosses is also drastically reducing seat post insertion, which I really like on my Stif Squatch with a 200mm dropper. In conclusion: They already have all the space in the world and still decide to put a 125 dropper in it. smh
@DrPuddinBuns
2 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these and I love it The owners manual (pg.42) clearly says it’s not meant for those trail types so don’t let this deter you. $1500 is a lot to some people and everyone else seems to be sold out of everything anyways. Don’t let these people make you feel like you’re not “into the sport” just because you bought this bike. Every bike can be changed. But again the manufacturer clearly states it’s not meant to come out of the box and hit those types of trails. And I’m assuming they had the small because my wheel base is not short but I have the XL. All in all I disagree completely. This bike is meant for someone who wants to get out on the trails like right now or maybe someone who wants a challenge throwing it down things you’re not supposed to I don’t know I do know that you shouldn’t ever have to question your love for this sport because of the bike you ride. That’s insane. I think commitment without the best tool to do the job speaks a little louder as far as love for something. But I ride a diamond back soooo what do I know
@ciclistagonzo8514
2 жыл бұрын
You speak truth. I see two skinny little people struggle to ride a big burly hard tail and laugh. I own this in a large and it fits and rides great, no skittishness of any sorts. And even being well north of 200lbs. I’m using 18psi Fr, 22 R. Makes a huge difference in grip and ride quality.
@MichaelAverycarhauler1969
2 жыл бұрын
Very well stated. Totally agree.
@Austibogo
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this comment! I’ve been saving for years on a bike after Seth from Berm Peak got me interested in mtb. Since he rides DB, I wanted to get one too. After a lot of work, I finally saved enough to buy the Sync’r last November. With this video popping up, it’s downed my spirits a little despite how much I absolutely love my bike. I’m planning to upgrade the tires, which from what I can tell from the video, was their major downfall on this bike. I’ve never had a problem! Still, this video has questioned my love for my bike, but you have brought back my confidence. Happy riding and thank you very much!
@wematanye533
Жыл бұрын
@@Austibogo Seems like Pinkbike trashes every sub-$3000 bike in existence. If they released a $200 bike tomorrow with a Rockshox Recon fork, they would be complaining it's not a Fox 36.
@Austibogo
Жыл бұрын
@@wematanye533 for sure! I mean the Sync’r is an awesome bike with amazing components for the price. I’ve had it for almost a year now and it’s never let me down and never fails to amuze!!
@derek2gloves
Жыл бұрын
On sale for $750 on diamondbacks site for Black Friday. Don't think there's better new hardtail deal. New Maxxis 2.6 tire setup tubeless and grips for under $900 is pretty hard to beat the value. Will keep eye open for nice used wheelset as that is biggest weaknesses combined with tires.
@bluestrings8829
Жыл бұрын
I just bought 2 for 750 tires are 2.8. just put some 2.5 or 2.6
@paulonunesfernandes
Жыл бұрын
I just bought 1
@MrWhiskeyShits
Жыл бұрын
Just picked one up, too. Grabbed some new tires, inserts and GX crank and derailleur for super cheap. For about a grand all together it is pretty fucking awesome.
@derek2gloves
Жыл бұрын
@@MrWhiskeyShits Can't be beat! Where did you get the GX crank and derailleur? I was looking at SLX or XT shifter and derailleur as cheapest option...as upgrading to NX isn't worth it but GX can get up there $$
@MrWhiskeyShits
Жыл бұрын
@@derek2gloves I got them all on Ebay, surprisingly enough. New and from reputable sellers. Also, I feel like most of the issues PB is crying about can be remedied with new tires and inserts. I also see the external cable routing as a plus.
@alexdubose9064
2 жыл бұрын
I have had this bike two years and I agree with the points they made about climbing. Descending is not that bad on it . I also have changed the fork to a fox 34 and changed the tires to a dhr 2 and a dissector. Both 2.6
@thomas8734
Жыл бұрын
What are the thoughts on this at $750?
@Shakshuka69
2 жыл бұрын
I bet you guys wanted to call it the stynker but didn't because then diamondback won't send you bikes anymore 😂
@tuftschristopher
2 жыл бұрын
Kaz isn’t saying “stinker” at 10:40 ?? :-D
@leannehenley418
2 жыл бұрын
Probably lol!
@ASAP2525
2 жыл бұрын
I doubt they care man diamondbacks bikes are mid AF
@danielrowe5413
2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if their reviews are based on how much they got paid for advertising by the companies? Maybe diamond back didn't provide enough $$$?
@willimmel
2 жыл бұрын
It seems that most of the problems stemmed from the crappy tires. I wonder how well it could have done if there were control tires. It would have saved 2+ lbs just getting rid of the tubes and switching to the same size Maxxis Rekons. Traction and stability were the two major gripes which would've been satisfied by good rubber...not to mention the tubeless setup
@texasrogue93
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought this bike before watching this. I upgraded the saddle, bars and tires. The tires are everything! I put some Maxxis Rekon + on this bike and man it’s a trail shredder now.
@derek2gloves
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it has cheap heavy 2.8 vee tires on it... vs Commencal came with Maxxis Rekon and High Roller II. This is one of main problems comparing budget bikes some come with much better tires than others.
@brianmagee5847
2 жыл бұрын
As an Outside + member I came over to KZitem just to be able to comment on how much I enjoy these three and wish Quinney had been allowed to join them. The Beta team is so boring compared to the wonderful chemistry that PB built.
@alexh.4068
2 жыл бұрын
I agree these guys blow, and their reviews are full of mistakes and bad comparisons. They are comparing this $1500 bike to a $2100 Timberjack that doesn't even have a dropper. How does this help potential buyers. Not to mention they can't even set up a dropper post correctly for descents.. who knows where their fork and tire pressure setups are at.
@derek2gloves
Жыл бұрын
What exactly is outdated about this bikes geometry cause I compared to several hardtails under 3k and it aligns perfectly compared to other bike brands larges or mediums depending on brand and 27.5 and 29ers: Sync'r Size Large Reach: 453 Headtube angle: 66 Seattube Angle: 74 Wheelbase: 1172 Chainstay: 435 Top Tube Length: 625 Team Marin 1 29" Large Reach: 450 Headtube angle: 67 Seattube Angle: 74 Wheelbase: 1166 Chainstay: 425 Top Tube Length: 628 Canyon Stoic 4 Medium Reach: 455 Headtube angle: 65 Seattube Angle: 75 Wheelbase: 1193 Chainstay: 428 Top Tube Length: 623 Kona Big Honzo 27.5+ Medium Reach: 450 Headtube angle: 67.5 Seattube Angle: 75 Wheelbase: 1173 Chainstay: 430 Top Tube Length: 619
@destinhook3826
Жыл бұрын
It falls right in line with most modern hardtails. You know why they shit on this bike the entire video? Diamondback isn’t signing their paychecks.
@derek2gloves
Жыл бұрын
@@destinhook3826 It's actually insane how bad they purposefully presented it haha. Pro section: "$1500 is lot of money... and if you see yourself progressing it's not for you" Instead of saying 1 single pro like it's setup 1x12 with 11-50 cassette, 140mm rockshox decent air fork, includes 125mm dropper post (they made that a negative), has MT-500 brakes instead of soft MT-200 come on all budget bikes, external routing can be pro if you work on your own bikes, 35mm rims, comes with race face chester 780mm bars and chester stem, is boost thru-axle and can fit 29", and that it comes with adequate platform pedals (most bikes don't even come with pedals) to name a few.
@davidc6032
Жыл бұрын
You are comparing it to a couple of mediums, so the numbers aren't as supportive. For example, reach for the large is bit dated compared to contemporary geometry. We see many large's in the 470s these days. That being said, this bike looks to be a deal not to pass up for anyone looking to try mountain biking without spending thousands.
@derek2gloves
Жыл бұрын
@@davidc6032 Comparing it to large and mediums to support that it's pretty good for people usually stuck between medium and large. Bikes keep getting bigger - yes, several 2023 brands mediums are more aligned to sync'r large. Whether it's called medium or large though, geometry is relatively the same. Only big difference it seat post length new bikes much shorter for people to fit long travel droppers.
@anthonywalters7434
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it could be a decent bike-packing rig or as they said, an entry level hardtail. I would have much rather had that diamondback than my old 2018 Specialized Rockhopper
@toxicsnail4197
2 жыл бұрын
"old"
@anthonywalters7434
2 жыл бұрын
@@toxicsnail4197 correction, abused and outdated
@caseyas8572
2 жыл бұрын
Tip, drop the fork travel to 130mm and add a 40mm riser bar. This bike will come alive. Maybe still be 4/4 in this pack but it will be with the pack instead of trailing it.
@sunshowerpainting1
Жыл бұрын
I got my new Sync-r for $750.00. $792.00 with tax and set up. A great value I think, especially because my riding is much more road biased, a little gravel and light trail riding. Being 64 years old, living in Sedona and wanting a bike to get into shape with, I'm hoping this will fill the bill nicely. I think a more comfortable saddle may be my first upgrade. After that perhaps a set of more road biased tires. Thoughts anyone?
@evan24pen
2 жыл бұрын
Ooooff DB just got ripped a new one 😅 For the record i love my Diamondback Release 27.5 lol
@violian5
Жыл бұрын
There should be a new review standard. If the consensus being conveyed to the audience is that the bike is "meh"because of the tires for instance (I seriously feel like the biggest reason why they don't like the bike is because of the tires), they should swap out that part (tires in this case) with tires that they like, and then re-test the bike. Bashing a bike becasue of the tires is kind of absurd being that it's a disposable part on the bike given that you'll probably change them out after 1 season.
@tommykb2898
Жыл бұрын
it's funny because they did actually change the pedals to clipless pedals. So if they changed that , they for sure could've changed the tires and just say " this is a good bike but we're not really a fan of the tires and we recommend changing them". But instead they do the most biased review I've ever . Also, the whole part with the clips for the cables that they fell off the bike "by the end of the driveway" is the biggest lie ever.
@casperr8644
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Tires are changed by most people because everyone has a preference. Few people stick with stock tires. So knocking the bike down due to tires doesn't make a lot of sense. Additionally, they make such a huge deal about getting the bike tubeless. For starters he used Gorilla Tape. Yes that will work, and I've used other tapes, but Gorilla Tape is NOT designed for tubeless wheels. The tires on the bike are also NOT tubeless ready and he event states that. Yet he goes on and one about the mess and how hard it was to get it to work. Made it sound like a huge negative on the bike when it's not. The only thing that is tubeless ready are the rims. It's even stated in the description on the website. Tubeless tape and valve adapters NOT included. Yes the clips can fall off. A lot of companies use these clips and and an EASY solution is to replace with zip ties. Again, they knock the bike negatively instead of simply saying "Replace the clips with zip ties and you'll be ready to rip!" Internal cable routing is great for aesthetics but there is no performance advantage to it. Most mechanics prefer to work on external cables. Internal makes everything harder from a maintenance stand point. The Sync'r is a great bike. Comparable bikes from the big brands that have SX and an aluminum frame sell for as much as $2400. Direct to consumer is less and more inline with the $1500 MSRP for Sync'r. The only real issue with geometry is the seat tube length. Fortunately I'm 5'10" with 33.75" inseam, and that's right in between the medium and large. I went for large and this is comparable to the latest generation mediums. Wheelbase is inline as are most of angles and length. In the video, the seat post is raised to the moon and it looks like they should be on a larger size. This would likely resolve some of their complaints of traction, wheelbase, etc.
@loooga18
Жыл бұрын
@@casperr8644I bought my sync'r during the black friday deal and this is my first mountain bike that I paid $750 and the most I ever paid for a bike. I taped the rims with muck off tubeless tape 35mm add presta valve and use the original vee crown gem tires and put stan sealant and so far the tires are holding up. It was a bit of a challenge to set up for tubeless because it was my very first time doing it. For the money I paid I think the sync'r is well equipped and have no regrets. The only thing that bothers is when I back pedal from the biggest cog the chain drops down two cogs everytime. The hanger is straight and secure maybe I just need a little adjustment to fix the chain dropping down. Everyone has preference what they like and don't like. Bias played a role in this video.
@casperr8644
Жыл бұрын
@@loooga18 Glad to hear you scored one of these bikes at $750. It's a crazy good deal. That's awesome you were able to get the tires to set up tubeless. A lot of non tubeless tires will work. Sounds like you're better at if than the reviewer! 💪 That's odd that your chain is dropping when back pedaling. I changed my shifter to X01, rear Der. to GX and crank/bb to Dub/GX. I did notice that the chain line is a bit narrower with the GX crank. Maybe that helped the back pedal/chain derail issue for me. The stock bottom bracket does have a spacer on the drive side. You could try pulling that out and is if a slightly narrow chain line helps your issue.
@MichaelAverycarhauler1969
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! So much hate for the Sync'r 😐 As a Sync'r owner, who hadn't been on a bike in +30 years, it's been a great starting point for me. While it did confirm that I definitely wanted/needed a full suspension bike, it was a great starting point. Let me preface that by saying I thought I could get into a full suspension bike at the $1k price point 🤑NOT! 🤣 As a new beginner, it climbs well, it brakes well, & although I find it twitchy at times, it got me out there. It was better spec'd than a Trek Roscoe 6, or a Specialized Rockhopper, at a similar price point. So, I threw $1,500 away on a hardtail that I knew I didn't want. But! Now I know what I want, how much I have to spend to get it, and I've gotten a relatively inexpensive education in modern mountain biking. #winning
@wematanye533
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it almost feels like they had a bias against this bike out of the gate - even when they say something totally fine like they brakes, they make a joke about how that's not good enough, as if every other bike in this price range doesn't have similarly specced components.
@destinhook3826
Жыл бұрын
All I hear is they aren’t sponsored by Diamondback so it’s garbage. Seriously can’t stand pinkbike
@acberger1
2 жыл бұрын
Diamondback was an okay option when they were more budget friendly. Now they seem to want to charge the same as everyone else while still having really dated frames.
@keironandrews5235
2 жыл бұрын
No surprises on the DB. I really like that you guys do budget bikes and talk about the components. Not everyone can afford Dangerholm level componentry so having some advice to help us less wealthy riders avoid dud components is much appreciated.
@TeamCykelhold
2 жыл бұрын
Nice, a review that isn't saying that the bike is just great. Rare these days. Thanks.
@dirtycommtroop
4 ай бұрын
I had the 2019 which was the same frame but with a Shimano drivetrain and no dropper. When I put on maxxis 2.6 tires, pnw dropper, 150mm bomber fork, and a 5mm longer stem the bike was dialed for me. Another 2 years later I sold it and got a commencal meta.
@jrc-fabs1634
Жыл бұрын
I don't like this review at all. Looks like you have 100psi in the tires and proceed to say it climbs bad. Any hardtail with a 1x12 and 2.8 tires will climb great. Also put some air in the fork because your bottoming out on a pebble
@derek2gloves
Жыл бұрын
This is actually the most biased intentionally bad review motivated by $ I think I've ever seen on KZitem. Look at how they talk and review bike like $1199 Canyon Stoic compared to this, they rave about MT-500 brakes on other videos, or the Martin Team 1 which the Sync'r actually has longer reach, wheelbase, 1 degree slacker, and 20mm more fork travel. Even complaining about not having room for 2nd bottle cage on seat tube yet no one puts them there hardly because it impacts dropper posts...With how 140mm fork is bottoming out, I don't think they even really tested or road it other than very few clips they showed honestly. The small drops slow mo showing fork bottoming out they didn't even drop the dropper down either lol.
@ranierotravaglini8382
Жыл бұрын
I own a Yeti SB150 and just got this Diamondback for my wife. Sorry to tell you but your review is not accurate and at times even misleading. I do wonder if other brands are paying you for this kind of bad reviews.
@mike-fp6lq
Жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you! I have this bike and was wondering the same thing. I have lost all respect for Pinkbike and they have lost all credibility to me.
@BoxCarBoy12
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a typical Diamondback: a great value bike with good parts let down by outdated geometry and some minor quirks that irk serious mountain bikers. I've always considered them when in the market for a new bike since their prices are more reasonable than most brands, but there are always one or two details that turn me away.
@Sphoxros
2 жыл бұрын
And this is why I built my own HT, beats the crap out of what DB can offer, even they're carbon HT, would be kind of fun to have it tested to get some pro's opinion on the build lol.
@noahlara13
2 жыл бұрын
I have a Hook upgraded to Syncr level. It feels like a BMX bike. Taken it down Horsethief bench in GJ. I thought it did well.
@ish474
2 жыл бұрын
If the frame isn't holding it back everything else can be changed. I will say as a blanket statement I hate plus size tires. Even 2.6 is too big if the sidewall isn't stiff enough.
@ASAP2525
2 жыл бұрын
2.6 is as big as you can go. I run 2.6 on hardtail in a double down casing with Cush core and it feels great. It’s all about the rim and tire combo you can’t just use any rim and any tire
@ameraldas3641
2 жыл бұрын
@@ASAP2525 I agree, I am using a 2.6 with a gravity casing specialized eliminator tire. with a tire insert on a hardtail. The tire insert + a heavy casing makes hardtail's handle better at decents.
@ish474
2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine what the Meta review is going to be, but I bought it for all the reasons its going to get knocked. Its the most fun bike out of the 7 I own.
@hsklar5941
2 жыл бұрын
7:26 sometimes having the bottle cage restricts putting a longer dropper or anything of that sort into the seat tube
@BasicBodThor
2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t it come with a longer dropper then?
@hsklar5941
2 жыл бұрын
@@BasicBodThor the longer dropper is possible as an upgrade but yeah, it should have had a longer dropper if it wasn't going to have the bottle post mounts.
@drifterdogs
2 жыл бұрын
Got a Giant stance 2 2018 for 1.4K.. full suspension. pedals well and upgradeable.. these days u cant get anything comparable for any less then 3K... Sometimes I worry that if I crack my frame Ill never be able to bike again! LOL
@ArtHistoryNstuff332
2 жыл бұрын
No bike will be the same for any two people. Take any review with a grain of salt. These guys ride for a living, most of us don't.
@mustclime5311
2 жыл бұрын
Most of Diamondback's bikes were designed in 2015.....and nothing has changed since then.
@Gehajjs62727
2 жыл бұрын
What’s bad about that? You can still rip on it? I’m getting really sick of people saying stuff like this. (I will never ride one)
@laurentp89
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gehajjs62727 What is bad is exactly what this video is about...
@mustclime5311
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gehajjs62727 It is much cheaper to buy a used old bike than buy a new bike that is already old. Ride a modern MTB sometime, You will know what I am talking about. The change in the geometry of new bikes make a huge difference. You do not get that with Diamondback bikes.
@Gehajjs62727
2 жыл бұрын
@@mustclime5311 I know, but some people prefer different geo. And it’s insane to think that a 1500$ hard tail is a “Cruiser” bike that can’t be ridden well. You can ride anything, though I will never ride a diamondback (because i don’t like the geo either) I think that PB is being insanely snobby in this review. Though I do agree that you can get better for the price, I think it is stupid to say that this bike won’t work on advanced trails.
@acberger1
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they're being that snobby, this bike isn't bad in a vacuum but when there's better bikes for the same price they should absolutely be knocking it.
@Basement_CNC
2 жыл бұрын
the sync'r is kinda misunderstood i think, its ment to be more of a dj bike and for flow trails , where the fieldtest jappend is REALLY DEMANDING for hardtails and ist not the right terrain for this bike but there are definetly better bikes out there
@nasonguy
2 жыл бұрын
Is it really though? DiamondBacks own website describes this one with words like “do-it-all”, “all-mountain” and “trail bike”….
@justingarrett4125
Жыл бұрын
@@nasonguy most people aren't riding hardtails in Tucson on this chunk, just demands a lot, plus with crappy tires and who knows if it would have worked better with 3psi less as plus tires can ride completely differently if you have too much pressure
@nasonguy
Жыл бұрын
@@justingarrett4125 Oh for sure. I'm local too and I will ride my HT or Full Sus depending on how I feel, also I don't hesitate to take my HT on anything out here. But my point is that DiamondBack themselves say it can do anything, so I think it's fair to judge it by that standard...
@gulfcitynd
2 жыл бұрын
27.5 is good for me
@juki1x
2 жыл бұрын
This is why these peiple get into one person sports, because they are nerds...the load if crap they feed you to excuse their reason to buying super expensive machines. The breaks sort of work...the traction wasn't there, the balance... Geez just go ride
@danl5632
2 жыл бұрын
These bike reviewers are really used on riding modern expensive bikes. I bet they wont ride 10 year old bikes. Let alone old bikes with 26inch wheels.
@ThunderStruckMTB
2 жыл бұрын
4:04 "Shit, I'm going OTB".
@checkwiththekecks
2 жыл бұрын
I have this bike as a backup. I traded a NS DJ for it. Since, I've added a fox 36 29'r performance elite front end. Made it a bit more stable with a little more slack. Also, changes the brakes and rotors. I like it a lot considering how little I've put into it.
@LukasDePraga
2 жыл бұрын
Do you realise that fork is basically the same retail price as the bike itself? Putting little into it does not apply here... :D
@jeffreydzialo
2 жыл бұрын
The discontent Alicia felt for this bike was palpable.
@kirkhobson4417
2 жыл бұрын
Alicia killed it. Was not prepared for that. Competition is tough so you need to be hard. Not all bikes can be winners. I do think that tire pressure makes a big difference in ride quality and some of the traction and stability issues could have been solved with lower pressure. Obviously that’s all rider preference but I do think that plus size tires and 27.5 wheels are just a thing of the past.
@jacobg130productions
2 жыл бұрын
Seth: *Watches in confusion*
@bonham4994sts9
2 жыл бұрын
I like the voice over intro for the bike
@VentureMTB
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting that Seth still rides the Sync’r, considering it has fell to the back of the pack in terms of desirable trail hardtails
@theshonen8899
2 жыл бұрын
He's sponsored.
@Pienimusta
2 жыл бұрын
Probably frame only thing original in his bike. Also, getting paid to show that frame on video helps too.
@Paulklampeeps
2 жыл бұрын
I think Seth's height is also a factor combined with the geometry of this bike
@iansutcliffe3436
2 жыл бұрын
This is a different syncr that he rides
@VentureMTB
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I know he’s sponsored. It’s just interesting that despite how good of a rider he is, he chooses to stick with a bike that has fallen behind in recent years. When he first got the sync’r pro in Florida, I considered getting it becuz of how he liked it so much. I know he has sponsorship obligations, so I wonder what he really thinks of the bike since this review was rather damaging to its reputation
@josephhall4161
2 жыл бұрын
Those Vee Crown Gems are a terrible tire (I installed those on my hardtail 29er and after one ride on a local trail - I ride rocky, dry and loose terrain in the colorado front range - I took them off because of how skiddish they were at just about any reasonable pressure)
@walken199
2 жыл бұрын
Great work guys!
@M1keBLR
2 жыл бұрын
The only plus bike that climbs well - Scott Spark Plus Tuned. It's light (or the lightest plus full sus).
@kenetics1344
2 жыл бұрын
Diamondbacks used to be a good value 4-5 years ago for the spec but their prices have gone up a lot that it's harder to justify their budget brand anymore.
@AC-ww6nf
2 жыл бұрын
Truth.
@riccochet704
2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the complaints are more geared towards the lack more expensive components than the actual components offered. 125mm dropper post, sure, we'd like more, but that costs money. wheels not being tubeless ready, they're not advertised as tubeless ready. Brakes are adequate...sure, but most other bikes at this price point are with MT201's, not the MT500's. Fork...how many other bikes at $1500 offer an air fork at all? Go look at Trek and Specialized. None. Does this bike offer the best of everything for $1500? No. But it offers more than other brands for the same price point. I'll take the better components over the compromised geometry when it comes to longevity of riding.
@miken8244
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they loved it!
@xav_1029
2 жыл бұрын
RIP Diamondback product manager in charge of this bike
@hmf33
Жыл бұрын
Hi, are there any other bikes in that price range that you would recommend over the Sync'r other than the Commencal Meta that was mentioned in the video and/or what were the other 3 bikes that the Sync'r was tested against? Just curious. Thanks!
@ek8507
2 жыл бұрын
is there a list of trails ridden in tucson? also 8:04, it shows 4/4th for overall but alicia mentions 3/4th for overall.
@alicialeggett1831
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we had a timing correction. There's a little *4th that pops up when I say 3rd because the notes I was looking at were wrong.
@64Spokes
2 жыл бұрын
I had a 2018 model, which I believe is identical geo to this, and it could clear a 27.5x3.25” Duro crux tire I thought that was kinda cool not even my surly karate monkey or esker hayduke could do that and they are more marketed as plus tire mountain bikes then the syncr
@rlake13
2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for more
@nhiathor3616
Жыл бұрын
I always come back to this video just to read the comments 😂
@northwestmountainbikeaddic6874
Жыл бұрын
This bike is on sale for $750 at my LBS , but not sure I want it as a second bike to add next to my enduro , the reviews don’t make it sound too good not even for $750😂
@tommykb2898
Жыл бұрын
you can't find a better bike for that price. I have one and it feels great. only thing I would change on it would be the tires with something a little bit more grippy
@cody5495
Жыл бұрын
On sale for $750
@jeffs2031
2 жыл бұрын
Are you planning a review on Whyte 901/905 anytime soon? I think it is an awesome bike, not popular though.
@clemens8744
2 жыл бұрын
i don't get why almost all manufacturers across the board spec such short travel droppers on bikes. I'm 170cm and ride a bike with a 445mm seattube and I lower the saddle 180mm with a quick release because the specced 125mm dropper is simply rubbish. Those TranzX droppers that are prety common on more budget bikes are at - at least I think so - about the same price as a OneUp V2. All OneUps cost the same across the whole range, so why not spec a 180 or at least a 150mm dropper on a size medium bike? Surely not for cost.
@laurentp89
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that although the TranzX droppers are about the same price for us, they are waaay cheaper for bike brands
@oklahotb3217
2 жыл бұрын
They have to spec a dropper that will fit the whole range of heights per size. Anyone in the height range of, say a medium, can use the 125 mm. You put a 150mm on it and maybe folks on the bottom end of the size chart or have short legs, will find the 150mm too long and won't be able to get the seat set at the proper height.
@laurentp89
2 жыл бұрын
@@oklahotb3217 But the PNW and OneUp can be reduced in travel, so it comes back to cost
@oklahotb3217
2 жыл бұрын
@@laurentp89 Can come down to volume. I don't think PNW or Oneup has the capacity to supply enough droppers to large scale manufacturers. I am with you tho, all droppers should be adjustable travel :)
@laurentp89
2 жыл бұрын
@@oklahotb3217 that's true, Trans-X and KS Lev must produce enormous amount of droppers
@alexh.4068
2 жыл бұрын
4:04, you guys have a dropper, yes it is only 125mm but you're descending with it way too high in the seat tube. Come on lol. Even beginner riders know that when you're working with a shorter-than-optimal-length dropper you set it up low enough for descents when fully down.
@brad1479
Жыл бұрын
Improperly aired fork, improperly aired tires. And at least one reviewer that apparently has no idea how to ride in rough terrain. The bike is decent with some really good components. But, its not a boutique brand, so I guess never mind.
@TheDarKris
2 жыл бұрын
I have this bike in the XL which felt too long but the stack if I went with the LG would feel too low. I also bought it hastily after my other hardtail was stolen so if I had waited longer I could have found something better
@mateennique
Жыл бұрын
How tall are you and what is your inseam length, if you don't mind me asking? Considering this bike given it's on sale and have no way to test ride it.
@TheDarKris
Жыл бұрын
@@mateennique 5’-11” about 31-32” inseam
@Jabbatan
2 жыл бұрын
Yay both mikes 😊
@Intoccib
2 жыл бұрын
I subscribed please feed the dog and Henry Quinney
@MikeOnaBike
2 жыл бұрын
With a 125mm dropper, I would rather it didn’t come with one at all and save some money on the initial price like the Meta.
@ej1_drew
2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@riccochet704
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine spending $3500 on a Fuel EX8 with 100mm dropper. You pay a lot more for bullshit with Trek and other big name brands. 125mm dropper is a godsend.
@MikeOnaBike
2 жыл бұрын
@@riccochet704 125mm was great in 2016. We have come a long way in frame design and 125mm drop isn’t acceptable in my opinion. Especially for a hardtail.
@destinhook3826
Жыл бұрын
The reason they have 125mm droppers is cause they have 18” frames instead of the typical 150mm dropper and 17” frame
@Vector_Warface
Жыл бұрын
please guys testing bike Dartmoor Bikes ...
@mrvwbug4423
2 жыл бұрын
For that money definitely sounds like one of the other hardtails in the test, or say a Trek Roscoe is a much better choice. FFS the $500 hardtail that I use as a trainer/spare bike has internal cable routing haha.
@SkarryTerry
2 жыл бұрын
I got my 2022 Marin Bobcat Trail 3 for $689, added maxxis, PNW dropper/lever, Ergon grips, Bontragger seat, and on my 2nd cassette. Just got done destroying my 1x chainring, and now waiting for this Thursday for my Local shop to have the 1x system for my 8 speed. All that, and it’s still under $1500. Yall on something if you think these prices are “entry”. Climbing is EASY, it’s all in the rider.. Recorded going 39.7 mph down hill on Strava at my local trail, so, there’s WAY capable bikes than these over priced ones.
@franklee6301
2 жыл бұрын
It comes as a 2x eight speed and isn't boost spacing so you'll never get a 12 speed drive train. It's also dated geometry and running a cheap suntour fork. Marin prices it at $869 so adding maxxis, a drivetrain larger than an 8 speed and new fork and you're well over $1500.
@keosoutdooradventures
2 жыл бұрын
The tires are not tubeless ready for sure, Diamondback also false advertised the rear hub being "XD" compatible. I had one and you guys are 100% accurate on all the issues.
@iffy_too4289
2 жыл бұрын
Screams of a bike chosen to throw under the bus (so you appear to be 'genuine' reviewers) because they arent a brand throwing advertising dollars about. It's basically a 4 year old bike at this point. First timer I ever heard PB ever be truly critical of anything.
@JDM417
2 жыл бұрын
I found this video just in time. I was about to order a Sync'r. I might just stay with Trek as my Domane has performed flawlessly
@paulonunesfernandes
Жыл бұрын
$750 NOW
@alexh.4068
2 жыл бұрын
Only one of the bikes tested that came with a dropper, plus the cheapest. Add 1 min to each of the other bikes times.. lol.. guess the Sync'r wins.
@WeekendPirate
2 жыл бұрын
Diamond bike designer’s are going to cry after they watch this review. Lol
@doncrescas
2 жыл бұрын
Do they still have any designers on their payroll? They haven't redesigned a bike in years.
@WeekendPirate
2 жыл бұрын
@@doncrescas 😂
@Onlydansmtb
2 жыл бұрын
Why does Levy look like he's going to burst out laughing every 2 seconds. sick vid though
@JB-1138
Жыл бұрын
With the short wheelbase maybe it would be good for a kid.
@JB-1138
Жыл бұрын
Tucson, Arizonia! Do you know Jackie Daytona? He's just a regular human bartender.
@davidc6032
Жыл бұрын
$1500, no way. $750 screaming deal!
@quesoner34
2 жыл бұрын
@pinkbike You guys think things would improve much if one put on a 29" wheelset with like 2.5ish tires?
@NoBrakes23
2 жыл бұрын
Having owned a number of Diamond Back and Avenir products over the years, this is completely unsurprising. I think Avenir is Latin for "disappointment." I've never owned a DB that didn't have at least one thing welded in the wrong location. They are better than department store bikes, but only marginally.
@xophere
2 жыл бұрын
Ouch. Now the 24 inch kids version is actually a pretty nice bike... Or was if they still make it even.
@tomallen6073
Жыл бұрын
Kinda stupid to ride a single terrain and say the bike sucks. Terrain varies everywhere. I’ve owned one of these in Florida for several years and it works fine, was.$1150 then. Unless you ride it over a wide range of terrain your opinion seems useless.
@mudkayak6305
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not KA and telling it straight up
@chrissmith2729
2 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed you were able to set those flow snap tires up tubeless. I just swapped out those for Maxxis tires on my friends bike, they were super easy to set up tubeless with 1 layer of gorilla tape. Amazed they said on the rim they were "tubeless ready". I'd be interested to find out what kind of PSI you were running on them to keep the stock tires on. Another note, swap the rotors and pads for something non organic. So yes, if you add in the extra $200 for that it's actually a pretty decent bike.
@SpencerBaum
2 жыл бұрын
Spend that $200 on a dropper for the commencal meta ht instead, and it would be a better bike than the syncr ever could
@chrissmith2729
2 жыл бұрын
@@SpencerBaum some LBS's carry Diamondback bikes still and my friend got a pretty good deal on it so hard to pass that up. A few years ago diamondback had great components for price. I dont feel like that is the case anymore having put a bunch of money into youtubers.
@acbacb15
2 жыл бұрын
I recently set up a pair of Flow Snap 2.6s tubeless using a big air compressor and it wasn't too much trouble after I trimmed off all the mold release hairs that were interfering with the seating of the bead against the rim. After seating I set the pressures in the low 20s psi, so far so good.
@nelsonglover3963
2 жыл бұрын
Please stop using Gorilla Tape as tubeless tape. It's far too sticky and a faff to replace, and it will slowly leak air through the spoke holes.
@br9760
2 жыл бұрын
Literally all they had to say was that it had an outdated (5y/o) design. As someone who has one, buy the aluminum frame and buy the carbon spec parts for it. The AL spec parts are un-good for an already dated geometry.
@mike-fp6lq
Жыл бұрын
The geometry was actually updated in 2019 and now has a 66-degree headtube angle. There is nothing dated about that. I think the stock tires are the biggest setback.
@derek2gloves
Жыл бұрын
@@mike-fp6lq Yeah, I don't understand what is dated about this bikes geometry? It's very well aligned with M/L sizes across all brands specifically when comparing Sync'r Large size to others. Only major difference is some 2023 models wheelbase is now 1200. Those 2.8 vee are too heavy, wide for rims and 2.6 Maxxis makes big difference in what they're complaining about.
@s14tat
2 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@kingrat738
2 жыл бұрын
Budget bikes usually have cheap wheels & tyres... Seth manages/managed to rip on his Sync'r (assuming it's a higher spec'd model).
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