Cavett's contribution to talk shows seems to me to be grossly underrated and underappreciated....the intelligence he brought to his shows is all but extinct and incomprehensible to people today, who only want the quick fix silly tripe. tragic.
@fifthbusiness1678
Жыл бұрын
@Let Your L⚡️GHT Forever Shine ❤️ Why the laughter? He was both (provided you ... you know).
@loge10
Жыл бұрын
@Let Your L⚡️GHT Forever Shine ❤️ I agree with you- underrated is the most overused and wrongly used word on KZitem, and it's wrong here. Underrated by who? Those who love MCU movies?
@aparatorlogo
Жыл бұрын
Could not agree more.
@bderrick4944
9 ай бұрын
He was the godfather of modern day podcasts
@lakemichigan6598
5 жыл бұрын
In this interview with Cavett, Carson dipped more deeply into himself than any conversation of his I can remember ever seeing. These two very famous men were clearly good friends having an unusually authentic and personal conversation before an awkward array of very bright lights, rolling television camera's, and attentive strangers, making this one extraordinarily rare and special occasion. Whenever Carson lets you in, even if that in's only an inch or two, you have to stop and pay attention.
@user-nw6qp1ki2n
4 жыл бұрын
Lake Michigan Totally agree with you LM 👍🏻✅ Simplicity and lucidity were an unbeatable positive factor back then 🧡
@kuruman1
4 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@SCharlesDennicon
4 жыл бұрын
Cavett was the anti-Fallon. And it's a good thing.
@ucctgg
4 жыл бұрын
Cavett would say he was the ante-Fallon.
@wannawatchu66
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm not impressed with Jimmy Fallon. He's no Johnny, that's for sure.
@_cloudiiskxy_158
3 жыл бұрын
winstoneism Fallon is just horrible
@graxjpg
3 жыл бұрын
winstoneism a fuming cadaver has more charm than Fallon.
@user-bq8yp7yg9p
3 жыл бұрын
@@wannawatchu66 stop comparing him to fallon. Ther different
@mysterytrain3
4 жыл бұрын
Two very different fellows with the same job but totally different types of shows--both brilliant and both extremely entertaining. I thought that era would never end, but, unfortunately, it did.
@thegoodthebadandtheugly579
2 жыл бұрын
I never saw it when it aired as I was too young and am not American, but watching this interview is a great pleasure. Civility, humility, respect and responsiveness. Just a beautiful exchange.
@oohyllab
Жыл бұрын
Yeah o'l Dick didn't lack wit. Sharp as Johnny any old day, just a different delivery. Different personalities. I just now, watching this learned he wrote for Johnny! I'd been watching old Cavett reruns here lately on a decades channel. Entertaining show. He was a gracious cost as was Johnny. Such a lack of truly decent programming anymore. Sad!!
@andrewmacdonald4833
10 ай бұрын
Two brilliant chat show hosts...very different but simply superb at their craft...
@garbeal2397
3 жыл бұрын
Dick cavett must be the most charming man ever to have lived.
@leonbernsdorf2548
3 жыл бұрын
He’s still alive!
@garbeal2397
3 жыл бұрын
@@leonbernsdorf2548 I know I just meant when he was interviewing people
@DeLorean4
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. He is such a class act. In one of his more recent interviews with Larry King, I was absolutely expecting him to criticize modern late show hosts, but he was absolutely polite and had nothing but kind words.
@drewpowers7236
2 жыл бұрын
If you want to watch two charming titans show the world how it’s done…watch Cavett with Orson Welles.
@humbertoflores2545
2 жыл бұрын
Even Sophia Loren flirted with him in one of his shows, he got defenseless against such a stunning lady..
@jamesdrynan
2 жыл бұрын
Johnny entertained people, Cavett informed them. He is renowned for bringing actors, politicians, musicians and writers that illuminated audiences' awareness of craft.
@gazwillz3225
3 жыл бұрын
I much preferred Cavett interviews to Carson's.
@Sam-qc6sz
3 жыл бұрын
I think Carson encapsulates more of that Hollywoodish, flashy kind of show Cavett I think was more in depth and focused on debates and so on, and frankly, very entertaining and often funny
@larrywexner4163
3 жыл бұрын
same but whats funny is that i hardly ever hear of him. from watching letterman, kimmel and similar, they always praise carson.
@andrewjones4568
3 жыл бұрын
Me too but essentially they were different types of show. Living in the U.K. I have only discovered Dick relatively recently and am enjoying his old interviews. In the U.K. Michael Parkinson was very similar and gave similar but different interviews of many of the greats. He is worth checking out.
@paulpeterson4216
3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I watched Carson's monologue, and then turned to Cavett for the interviews.
@rafaelandrade7627
2 жыл бұрын
Different shows. Talk shows like the tonight show will never be a place for deep, thoughtful conversations, they are just for entertainment. Even the conversations are rehearsed
@paxwallacejazz
5 жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett the Counterculture's Johnny Carson.
@doris5622
4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Cavett was superior in intelligence and interviewing to Johnny (who I loved also, but I am a bigger Cavett fan) and you can see how Johnny Carson is trying to trip him up but Cavett has the upper hand. Go, Dick!
@wandelgartking5446
4 жыл бұрын
Johnny was incredibly intelligent, definitely no less than Cavett, a very well read man, and certainly way more skilled as a performer. And his conversational wit was unparalleled, though I think the snappiness did decline somewhat in his very last years on the air, in the late 80's, as he got older. There's a lot of great stuff to read about him. Cavett certainly had his charm and his own style of interviewing, though. And certainly an intellectual himself. Great men, both of them.
@thyslop1737
4 жыл бұрын
Hard to compare the two. Both had much different formats. Cavett was very good, but a little snooty, probably not as universally liked as Johnny, nor anywhere near the reach, particularly as he had gaps in his talk show career. Johnny, on the other hand, was huge. And the absolute best ever in his format. I am sensing the exact opposite in disposition during his appearance where Cavett perhaps is a little intimidated by Carson. The intellectual spin done by Cavett as part of his persona, I believe, was to compensate for the little man complex, because the guy is/was tiny. So, oddly enough, there were such similarities between the two, but differences in styles and star power. Again, so odd, both were from Nebraska, both did comedy, both did magic and both did talk shows.
@Tusc9969
4 жыл бұрын
As intelligent as Dick was, Johnny was doing his best to help him along, but it didn't work very well. I always found Dick Cavett to be very boring and stiff. He was a little better if you could get him to relax. And Johnny tried.
@PC4USE1
4 жыл бұрын
Carson was well read and would bring it forth as necessary. Cavett,on the other hand was a persistent name dropper. I like Cavett but Carson was the all around better entertainer. Carson had more of the "every man" air about him.
@HDArtzy
4 жыл бұрын
Cavett was the nicest man to ever live, out that on god.
@timmcelroy2188
6 жыл бұрын
Two of the greatest to ever do it.
@ase2201
5 жыл бұрын
Please Dick is not even close to Johnny.
@justafanintexas7913
5 жыл бұрын
@@ase2201 - Especially when it comes to interviewing skills but Johnny does his best.
@supernikki12100
5 жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett was very nice to Janis Joplin. He really care what she had to say.
@bholaoates1542
5 жыл бұрын
They were very fond of each other and reportedly hung out together a little bit.
@rockbassrules
5 жыл бұрын
Love the Janis interviews w/Cavett
@donnamacbride6465
4 жыл бұрын
My first cousin Janis, I'm in the family book
@jasminejones9058
3 жыл бұрын
@@donnamacbride6465 IF you're her cousin, you must be from Port Arthur Texas Home town of Janis Joplin I'm from Australia but I've been in Port Arthur the people there treated Janis like shit even after she was famous they never accepted her SAD 🥺
@donnamacbride6465
3 жыл бұрын
I'm in Calif. and worse her family rejects all her 1st cousins. She lived with me when she came out here after highschool. I have great memories, but I was asked to identify the body.
@jeffdawson2786
Жыл бұрын
Two masters of their craft in their own inimitable ways.
@capitanfuturo594
4 жыл бұрын
DICK CAVETT AND JOHNNY CARSON. *Two great hosts in TV history.*
@wannawatchu66
4 жыл бұрын
"...her breath would kill cactus at 20 paces." LOL!! So glad Cavett is still with us. Incidentally, he was the same age as David Nelson.
@Sldumas1983
5 жыл бұрын
Wow this is awesome I was just 1 yr old but to see these guys together is awesome
@kathydixon3716
2 жыл бұрын
I love these old videos! The talk show hosts today can't hold a candle, to the old guys.
@bobertkallahan4392
2 ай бұрын
Two of the BEST. TO EVER. DO IT.
@BinaryRetroClips
11 ай бұрын
Great show. I was 12 when it aired and it was probably passed my bedtime.
@sentientmlem727
3 жыл бұрын
Carson is great for the "wow factor" for his show. Cavett is great for his dry wit and focus.
@barbarabrennan1753
3 жыл бұрын
I saw Cavett in the crowd at a Dylan concert in Philadelphia at the Trocadero. After the show. When i got back to my car, I had locked the keys in my trunk. Cant remember how i got out of that. I cannot believe Im taking fricken senior buses after i fought so hard to learn to drive. Dylan concerts. The start of the circus. Send in the clowns. Yes, perhaps i should have gone over for an autograph but I didnt want to invade his privacy.
@johnLennon255
3 жыл бұрын
Cavett looks like ted Bundy in this video
@michaelmelro6641
2 жыл бұрын
This is by no means a criticism of either one of these gentleman, but I've always thought that Carson sold the sizzle and Cavett sold the steak. Both had their own distinct style, and both played an important role in the Late Night game back then. I feel like Carson allowed the stars to promote what they were doing and make it hilarious at that moment in time, while Cavett gave the platform for his guests to promote who they really were on an intellectual and personal level.
@patriciagriffin1505
2 жыл бұрын
Two great interviewers and both good at dry wit
@harpoon_bakery162
Жыл бұрын
and making fun of larger people, not a good look. Johnny started it with the fat person references to his class reunion. omg.
@MapleSyrupPoet
Жыл бұрын
"Windmill on an old Dutch painting" very good line 😅
@andypike1234
2 жыл бұрын
Two legends
@megcrimson8589
3 жыл бұрын
2 legendary talk show hosts
@daviddufresne343
3 жыл бұрын
Cavett and Carson's shows were very different and the goals were different as well. The were quite different men, Cavett is almost Woody Allen straight out of one of his movies, he suffered from anxiety and depression, yet still made it. Carso apparently had a drinking problem, at least off air, but could seem pretty socially normal on TV.
@GG-yn6jw
4 жыл бұрын
Always love with carrot love his personality his style he has such a smooth voice and I like the way he's always fair and impartial with his guests I'm very open kind of guy!!💜
@jonblake2033
2 жыл бұрын
Love it how they put a step under chair so his legs don’t dangle lol
@adrianotero7963
3 жыл бұрын
Liked them both......different flavors.
@richr7315
2 жыл бұрын
good stuff. thank you.
@Shellinois
3 жыл бұрын
What is the entrance music used here for Cavett? I don't recognize it as a theme to his show, but it's familiar.
@allthatyoutouch3164
3 жыл бұрын
Yes "Las Vegas" is an exact anagram of "Salvages".
@michaelknapp8961
3 жыл бұрын
There’s a reason why Carson is called the king of late night. He’s simply the best to ever do his job!!
@peterdurkin1499
2 жыл бұрын
Dick ..what a gifted talker. Very smart
@bh5606
5 жыл бұрын
....the Heisenberg Effect....
@roccopagliari8828
5 жыл бұрын
hes in a superposition
@belgianvanbeethoven
4 жыл бұрын
Not too far off
@leemonade6943
4 жыл бұрын
A true intellect. My favorite performance style.
@ILoveWoolerbear
23 күн бұрын
No two hosts could compare to Johnny and Dick. NONE.
@sproctor1958
10 ай бұрын
"His breath was so strong, it could start the windmill on an old Dutch painting!" 😂 🤣 😵💫
@interfusor
5 жыл бұрын
So many celebrities I see in his face. Keith Carradine (similar voice even), William Sadler, Peter Weller, Paul Bettany.
@fjodorklein3021
4 жыл бұрын
0:58 good way to sit down
@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879
3 жыл бұрын
Dick cavett was a world class sniper in Vietnam and killed hundreds of Vietcong. He called the experience ‘kafka esque’ and later did an aside about Groucho marx and Sartre
@AlexShade
Жыл бұрын
What theme is the band playing as Cavett comes on?
@felixthelmocevallosmorales41
Жыл бұрын
Richard Alva Cavett (/ˈkævɪt/; born November 19, 1936) is an American television personality and former talk show host. He appeared regularly on nationally broadcast television in the United States for five decades, from the 1960s through the 2000s.
@QuadMochaMatti
25 күн бұрын
Wikipædia Wizard
@thomasworden4139
4 жыл бұрын
I love crossover episodes.
@jpstenino
5 жыл бұрын
7:21 "I'm Becky" "no kidding" ha ha
@wk4240
Жыл бұрын
Las Vegas spelled sideways is Salvages . . . Beautiful and Witty. :)
@alexpollock6932
3 жыл бұрын
Never realized how short he is
@CaptainGrimsdale
4 жыл бұрын
I must find a copy of Dick's book and read it.
@curtpeterson7386
Ай бұрын
I miss the format of the talk shows these men had. I'm hoping one day we can get back to seeing civility and respect to guests instead of setting everybody up for a hosts inane punchline. The fact that these two men were raised in Nebraska gives me pleasure being from there myself- -- and I can point to clips like this with pride. They were both entertaining in this era. As of this post-- May 12, 2024, Dick Cavett is still living in Lincoln, Neb and does the occasional interview.
@MapleSyrupPoet
Жыл бұрын
Quite the treasure ❤
@davidnikoloff3211
Жыл бұрын
With time Carson fades. He left behind some memories of silly sketches. Cavett? He left behind memories of interviews with Hepburn, Davis, Welles, Groucho, Mailer, Lennon, and so many others. I know which legacy I would want to have.
@barbarabrennan1753
3 жыл бұрын
My exhusband was small figured but very smart. He was a scrapper with three brothers to contend with. I need a place to write my story.
@QuadMochaMatti
2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that this ain't the place.
@barbarabrennan1753
4 жыл бұрын
Next i saw him was when a lawyer i saught to help me get off the display, case. I never knew when id see anyone again or when the done done come.
@Danimal77
5 жыл бұрын
This can't be 1983. Hie PBS show last from 1979 to 1982.
@rayjr62
5 жыл бұрын
It is. Eye on Cavett (the book he was plugging on this show) came out in 1983.
@scherado01
Жыл бұрын
"That goes over very big at the library.."
@elizabethhestevold1340
3 жыл бұрын
No kidding , both from Nebraska...Is Jonny both fond and a little intimidated by Dick Cavett . Both, little nasty in there!! Humility Guys! Is attractive. Why? Comes in handy as we all eventually age , as we must go into Autumn.But , in entertainment , gets a little nip and tuck help from friends. I never forget , in my middle age, but lucky with my mothers genes, a la natrual, had lunch with my then , ex( we remained friends), outside observed a couple in front off his pick up truck! They were laughing, flirting, having a grand time. She got a slap on her full buttocks, as she climed into the truck seat, hair unclaimed, and two front teeth missing. He, with a belly to support a baby seat! But, what a Happy couple. Love. In the eye off the beholder. At, least they, how should one put it,...just a ordinary people,( sounds like Barbara Strisand song), can allow themselves to age, without being Nerotic about , as " Time goes By" , whether we like it or not. Laughingly.😂😊🇩🇰🇺🇲📬 Ps. Enjoy both shows, but with humor.😎 . .🇩🇰🇺🇲🗽🦅📬
@suzannerossiter1682
3 жыл бұрын
Dick is such a lovely man, loved his show, he's much better than Carson and he wouldn't have treated Joan the way Johnny did.
@beorlingo
Жыл бұрын
Joan ?
@MsMiika13
2 ай бұрын
Carson was the better entertainer. Cavett the better interviewer.
@aleji0
4 жыл бұрын
I find the esoterica and casual chauvinism calming.
@shanegreen1677
2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it pleasing?
@reyesplace1096
Жыл бұрын
Humorous version of gillligans island....
@wesstkilda
2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Dick first meet Johnny when he was doing magic tricks?
@harpoon_bakery162
Жыл бұрын
Smallest dude I've ever seen, wow. He sits down very quickly because Ed McMahon is so tall and Johnny's not really tall and even towers over Cavett. I just never knew, that's why I'm surprised. Watch at 00:52 as he looks way up at Ed, this is when he knew to sit down quickly. That toupee was horrid. I really loved his interviews with people like Janis Joplin. He's (Dick) very much like Groucho Marx. Like Johnny said esoteric.
@johnjames945
Жыл бұрын
Wow cavett is really short
@barbarabrennan1753
4 жыл бұрын
Im the cork inside their bottle of champagne, they turn and turn and pull, theyd saddle me up, .... Mule.
@QuadMochaMatti
2 жыл бұрын
Giddy up, you bareback mistress. Yeehaw!
@barbarabrennan1753
3 жыл бұрын
They say emotional intelligence counts more. But when men have been forcing themselves into your life as a group they dont understand that it makes a woman immature. Who should i have picked and was it ever up to me.
@gramirez72
2 жыл бұрын
This is so funny… two Nebraska boys talking, they almost sound alike, their lips barely moving, speaking with that Nebraska intonation. Very standard American English.
@barbarabrennan1753
4 жыл бұрын
Noone knows all ive been put through. There was a fine gent who always lent, me a can of v8 juice and when i suggested a weekend away, guess tgat wasnt the way he wanted a lay.
@barbarabrennan1753
3 жыл бұрын
Chutzpah is how the Jewish women go farther in life and get all that jewelry. What good is having intelligence when everyone is threatened by that.
@MrVerno46
Жыл бұрын
Easy thoughtful dialog sprinkled with delightful humor. On those days when guests got ornery and difficult, DC would embarress them with his intellect. Full Stop 🛑
@jaybestnz
3 жыл бұрын
Wow the level of intellect on those jokes are incredible. The Aristotle Buster joke is incredible.
@KrogOfTurtlePeople
2 жыл бұрын
It's pleasant, but contrived and definitely not "incredible"
@Quidditashopeful
4 ай бұрын
Passive aggressive
@thehouseofautumnspells258
4 жыл бұрын
The days before Late Night TV turned into political trash.
@barbarabrennan1753
3 жыл бұрын
Im just not bossy enough or pushy. Even my ex said I wasnt demanding enough. Catholic girl frightened into submission by nuns. One stern look. And those clanking rosary beads that reached the floor. All i got out of high school was the polish song Siwy Kon. Translation grey horse plus the four years of Latin that brings forth words spontaneously. But counts for nothing. My best friend Mary kept me from going to the prom. Every year of my life has been filled with betrayals of some sort.
@shanegreen1677
2 жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, Barbara, I thought this comment was fascinating. I would read your memoir.
@KrogOfTurtlePeople
2 жыл бұрын
boohoo. try having cancer of the prick
@lindanicola
4 жыл бұрын
Notwithstanding Cavett's articulate manner of speaking, I do not and never did like his voice.
@larschristensen9367
Жыл бұрын
Would’nt like to shake Mr. Carsons hand the way he keeps picking his nose and ears! 👃🦻
@kinjaws9606
Жыл бұрын
that was a weired cut in the beginig....
@mellow5123
4 жыл бұрын
Sort of like Chandrakirti milking a painted cow... Sounds like Cavett has somethings to get off his chest.
@mysterytrain3
4 жыл бұрын
And to think you actually had time to watch an old Carson rerun on KZitem...
@mellow5123
2 жыл бұрын
@@mysterytrain3 I know. Odd isn't it?
@jasonnoble7814
4 жыл бұрын
What a disaster
@barbarabrennan1753
4 жыл бұрын
But he stood on the street as i got off the bus, looking sad.
@ssnoc
5 жыл бұрын
Cavett would have done better if he did away with his erudite affect and just lightened up .... he’s actually a very funny guy when he just hangs loose...
@simonperry8569
5 жыл бұрын
It was his intellect and nerdiness that separated him from the other talk show hosts of the era, and allowed him to explore some pretty interesting, and at at times surreal, subject matter with his guests.
@lynnturman8157
5 жыл бұрын
yeah cause that erudite thing will never work. Who's ever heard of Dick Cavett?
@petermills542
5 жыл бұрын
Rob. Where you've put " lightened up" you mean "dumbed down" , no thanks !
@lynnturman8157
5 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Balter Good observation? Cavett's "erudite affect" resulted in him being one of the most famous talk show hosts ever.
@ssnoc
5 жыл бұрын
I was talking about doing better in this appearance .... not his overall career.
@steveconn
5 жыл бұрын
You can see where the depression problems of Cavett come in; he over-explicates every anecdote. Too tight a grip.
@nspector
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no. That's not actually where clinical depression comes from.
@steveconn
2 жыл бұрын
@@nspector Uh, yeah. Not where it comes from, just symptoms. Takes one to know one.
@nspector
2 жыл бұрын
@@steveconn Ok, I misunderstood what you wrote.
@nantucketjeep
4 жыл бұрын
Ritch snobs talking about us po folks
@helpoj
3 жыл бұрын
Cavett is smarter but he's monotonous voice makes him a tad boring
@lisajohnsoneinhorn
2 жыл бұрын
He was a great interviewer but man a lousy comedian.
@djrychlak4443
3 жыл бұрын
Carson hated Cavett. . . as a guest. Cavett always drank a little booka before showtime, giving him rancid gas. The entire interview above has a cloud of Cavett farts rolling around John's head. But he continued for the sake of the show. Both giants.
@hazelchief-rabbit5903
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, how do you know that? Was it written on his bio or something? 😅
@goldenrayofcentralsun1111
3 жыл бұрын
My what an imagination!
@humbertoflores2545
2 жыл бұрын
How did you know that? Did you smell it??
@IntoAllTruth.
5 жыл бұрын
Johnny was doing his best to help Dick Cavett along, but it didn't work very well. I always found Dick Cavett to be very boring and stiff. He was a little better if you could get him to relax. And Johnny tried.
@SCharlesDennicon
4 жыл бұрын
The guy wasn't a comedian. But he was a very smart and very competent interviewer, which is what mattered first and foremost.
@QuadMochaMatti
2 жыл бұрын
Not everybody's into party time all the time, mister.
@tertommy
5 жыл бұрын
RIP Richard Alva Cavett.
@roodivalentino2416
5 жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett is still very much alive.
@jamessinn3779
5 жыл бұрын
still alive
@cactaceous
5 жыл бұрын
What is the point of writing that?
@davidleedutton
5 жыл бұрын
He's still alive, but I hope he's resting peacefully anyway.
@justafanintexas7913
5 жыл бұрын
Either a bad attempt at being funny or brutally out-of-touch.
@bobbytheblade2550
Жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett was no comic and a very mediocre as a show host. He was safe with low ratings, and some folks just preferred that.
@dyspraxicrose3307
5 жыл бұрын
That kind of sexism is vile...shame on them both!
@coldwinter5710
5 жыл бұрын
A different time...not saying it's right...but a much different time.
@schmittyhanrahan5512
4 жыл бұрын
Yawn
@beniteztheconman
4 жыл бұрын
didnt notice any
@davidsandall
4 жыл бұрын
Be quiet woman. The men are talking.
@hypolyxa7207
4 жыл бұрын
What sexism? That some girls aged well, and some didn't? Stop yourself from being so offended, little snowflake.
@spiffydigs
9 ай бұрын
Dick Cavett... the master of Cringe.
@tomitstube
5 жыл бұрын
you can tell johnny respected cavett's intellect, cavett no doubt made a mark on johnny, and obviously the other way around.
@randallmacphee7260
5 жыл бұрын
Both men deeply human, decent ; Don't see this kind of class these days .
@coldwinter5710
5 жыл бұрын
@@tomitstube Not sure I understand your comment? Curious...Are you attempting to claim there's "class" residing in the White House currently?
@tomitstube
5 жыл бұрын
@@coldwinter5710 don't know why i wrote that, just deleted it, and no, not saying there's any class in the current white house.
@pronemanoldbutyoung5548
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. Few guests if anybody could get Johnny to share bits of personal anecdotes and moments, like Dick could. Just great to watch them talk, like there was no audience nor cameras
@sproctor1958
10 ай бұрын
@@coldwinter5710 In reading your comment from 4 years ago, and not being privileged to have read the original that you responded to, I am (only) curious if your statement regarding the White House may still be valid in July of 2023 given recent revelations? On a purely generic non-partisan (and non-agumentive) level, of course. I don't know how much of the current FUBAR you have been made aware of, but I personally remember "Watergate"... and this is worse by magnitudes, *_if true._* Just to be clear, considering how "hair-trigger" everyone seems to be now, I am only curious, I'm not looking for any argument, or trolling. Or, I'll "mind my own business" if you prefer. Thank you in advance.
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