Great video! This is a great response to Wranglerstar who had his break in a similar fashion and declared it a dud.
@UncleGunns
2 жыл бұрын
He's a ninny crybaby (Wranglerboohoo).
@truthkeeperfilms
2 жыл бұрын
We all know Matt’s Offroad Recovery uses them on all his vehicles. Over and over. Never had an issue.
@Modelo646
Жыл бұрын
Well it depends how you use it. But I also think that Matt might be sponsored by them since they gave him a special 1 of 1 controller for his wrecker.
@appalachainrider5961
Жыл бұрын
Matt is sponsored by Harbor Freight
@truthkeeperfilms
Жыл бұрын
@@appalachainrider5961 - And again, he uses them and doesn’t have issues. Their Badlands APEX units are made really good and have tons of great feedback. Every brand has an occasional defect including Smittybilt and Warn.
@appalachainrider5961
Жыл бұрын
true but sponsorship goes a long way, is all I am saying
@truthkeeperfilms
Жыл бұрын
@@appalachainrider5961 - Absolutely. I think he'd be more hesitant to say something against Badlands because its sponsored.
@pcspecialistpdx
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest review. Unlike Wranglerstar, you put the blame where it belongs: the mounting plate. I for one like that Harbor Freight keeps the weight down instead of building it such that it would hold up even if your mounting plate isn't up to the task. I don't want the extra weight because I would already have it in a proper mounting plate.
@MuddyBeards4X4
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have gotten a ton of comments saying I am wrong and telling me to watch the wrangler star videos on it. I can’t seem to convince those people otherwise…. Thanks for the comment 👊🏻
@llano748
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I already have one ordered. They were on sale last month for $530. I see rock bouncers and everyone else using them. If it’s trusted on a $100k rock buggy, it should do fine on my WJ.
@02jeepwj
2 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was thinking and if she works good on my wj then she will work fine for whenver i get around to building a bigger rig i wanna do
@mechsupernova
8 ай бұрын
I'm planning on getting one for my wj too
@alanbalentine5359
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I bought one last month myself from all the good reviews on the internet. Harbor freight did a smart thing passing these out free to KZitemrs. But yesterday I saw another video where it had failed and he said he was going back to Warren witches. But what he showed us was basically the same thing the housing had broke. The winch itself still work fine. At that time I thought to myself the winch didn't break your mounting plate broke. You have to consider 12,000 lb rating will probably pull half again that much. I'm building my mounting plate out of 3/8 plate steel. Hopefully if my mountain plate fails it'll be because it pulled the frame out from underneath the truck....😁
@MuddyBeards4X4
2 жыл бұрын
No problem, I am sure there will be more than one person that blames the winch and not their mount. I thought the same thing. I talked to the engineer on the phone and he told me to look at my mount… sure enough, it was very twisted.
@marvindebot3264
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, that guy was very unfair in his review. He referred to that as a "catastrophic failure" which it wasn't as he was still using the winch afterwards. It also resulted from the same thing, a mounting plate fail not the winch.
@seanmoore2278
Жыл бұрын
@@marvindebot3264 yep that damn stump vid lol even his waren does trying to pull the stump out
@josephsepulveda8819
3 жыл бұрын
On sale right now 12/29/2020 for $499. I picked one up yesterday. 👍🏼
@twidget59
3 жыл бұрын
$479 with discount. 👍
@anthonyraines5951
3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these when they first came out I had one of the old HF 12,000lb winches and loved it. I use it alot, never as hard as you though. They have both been great and I am glad to see it can handle a lot more than I am giving it. Also thanks for showing me they have replacement parts available. Awesome video!
@JayDee-bz2ge
4 жыл бұрын
Remember, this is the "first" run of winches... China loves to send a good "first batch" , then over time they change materials / tooling wears out without up-keep / they swap correct bearing for nigrig bearing with plastic spacer, etc.......... Just look at chinese tires, they have the (DOT) stamp, but fly apart and are FAR from DOT safe.... But the first batch were good and passed DOT...
@triot2127
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. At least buy a budget winch from a company that's going to enforce quality controls and have a warranty to back it up.
@llspragulus
3 жыл бұрын
Just curious why you don't use that winch with a snatch block? That essentially doubles your rate. It also puts a lot less strain on the winch thus keeping it cooler.
@oldmanhare
4 жыл бұрын
They are discounted $100 right now for Inside Track Club members.
@ncv4708
4 жыл бұрын
The 20% off coupon works on them too. Got mine for $479.99 last Thursday
@oldmanhare
4 жыл бұрын
@@ncv4708 Nice!
@gradycummings1612
3 жыл бұрын
I am so stoked that the winch is a good buy i cant wait to install it.
@fullsend9076
3 жыл бұрын
The thing ive found about harbour frieght is they cheap out on quality control and pass the savings on, this is the biggest reason i havent bought one and shipped it up here to alaska, the warenty isnt worth it and i dont trust it in water crossings🤷♂️
@moejr14
3 жыл бұрын
Did you not buy the extended warranty? I bought the winch and went back-and-forth on buying the extended warranty but it is $180 for two years.
@onejerrysmith
3 жыл бұрын
May I make a SUGGESTION to improve the efficiency, help the winch run cooler, and give it a slight boost in power?? This is a fairly simple alteration to make. First, let me explain why you would want to do it. As with most electric winches, they sent it with two lengths of battery cables to furnish the power to the winch from the battery. Those battery cables will do an adequate job, but there is a much better choice of power conductor. Before I tell you what that is, I want you to do a little experiment. Go hook your winch to an anchor point about 30-feet away from the front of your rig. Have someone ride the brake or use the parking brake to add resistance to the pull. With one hand on the positive battery cable supplying the winch power, begin pulling the vehicle. You will feel it begin heating almost immediately. With each degree of heat that builds, less power (amperage) is able to move through that cable. This causes the winch to work harder and the motor and switching will begin to heat as well. Heat is a natural enemy of electrical current. The easy "fix" is to either find a used (retired) welding cable or a new one if used is not available and replace that battery cable with it. It is best to solder the connecting ends to the welding cable with some substantial ends. (don't use the typical wiring ends, you want the maximum current to run through). I also recommend putting shielding over the cable to protect it from grounding should it wear on something. Try the hand on the new cable and you'll be a believer. This is especially a good idea for those of us who USE our winches often. For the ones who have the winch as an ornament, it won't make much difference.
@frankdehne1949
3 жыл бұрын
Car audio wire is better just make sure you get the ofc and if it is a real long run to the battery use zero gauge or even 0/2 if your batteries are in the back or if you're using your winch in the back and your batteries in the front .
@Justthemow
2 жыл бұрын
Or you can also use a shackle and snatch block to multiply the effort of the winch for a 1/4 of the price unless of course your to far away from tie down
@ronwatson4135
2 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with winches but it might help in the area mentioned. I have a 1000 watt Inverter inside my tool box in the bed of my pickup. I used 3/8ths 5 stranded copper wire used in houses and ran it down the truck frame up into the tool box. The Inverter does as well in the tool box as it would being a foot off of the battery. I do not have a winch but know it works really well with my inverter.
@ericbest9562
Жыл бұрын
The best jumper cables I've ever used were made out of welding leads
@TeamTopKick
Жыл бұрын
@@ericbest9562 yep also great for actual battery cables.
@SubieRow
4 жыл бұрын
I've had 5 of these over the years! Never a problem. NEVER! It has pulled my 3500 4 door long bed dually up a tree. Pulled 13k backhoes onto trailers over and over. Never a problem. Other than connection to battery issues... fixed by wiggling connections..
@cM-np3no
3 жыл бұрын
Ah dude I love reiter. Used to see tons of people there when I took my 4runner out there. Almost always there is a silly Jeep with a broken u joint in someone's way.
@Veritas-invenitur
3 жыл бұрын
I was off roading a few years back and ran into these two heavy machinery mechanics on the trail. They had an old Oshkosh fitted out with every tool a mine mechanic would need and enough Jeep parts to rebuild several drive trains . I asked them if they were going to help out a friend and they pulled out a mobile credit card reader and said that on the summer weekends they are up here to make a quick buck. As it turns out those guys made more on the trails in three months than they do at their shops in a year.
@jakealcazar3805
Жыл бұрын
Was one of the first ones to pick up this winch when Harbor Freight finally brought it to the shelves. And let me tell you, it's truly a great winch. Put it through a lot of tasks and it really has performed. I also remember all the WARN fanboys coming out talking mad sh*t about this winch. From everything that I've seen online, it's pretty much shut them up at this point. the fact that they even advertise their opposition (being a WARN winch) on their website, is very ballsy! Great product, Harbor Freight!
@pointblankyt9878
4 жыл бұрын
Love the honesty thanks for the content hope the channel continues to grow I have high hopes to meet up with you guys and do some wheeling one day
@bafumat
2 жыл бұрын
Why not just move the box elsewhere? It's designed to do so. Then it can flex all it wants to and your electrical stuff will stay safe.
@WranglerAddiction
4 жыл бұрын
I have the old 12k badland and never had any issues , been using it for 2 years , i used it at least 15/20 times .
@MuddyBeards4X4
4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻 Nice
@jarodneedham9538
3 жыл бұрын
Same here. No issues at all with e old model. 15+ years of heavy use.
@ringinconstitutional1756
3 жыл бұрын
@@jarodneedham9538 great to hear. Just installed....haven't used it yet
@ttjeepjl5146
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you for answering all my questions about the apex . I just mounted one on my jl excellent videos .
@kenneychappuis1853
4 жыл бұрын
LOL I’ve lied to you in the past but now I’m telling the truth.
@nathanr.8556
3 жыл бұрын
😂
@Rokynutz
3 жыл бұрын
Legit review. I cam by way of another fellow Washington YT guy, Wranglerstar. You got another sub. Now time to go check out your other videos. Cheers buddy.
@protipskiptoendofvideoandr286
3 жыл бұрын
Wranglerstar is from Oregon
@micahreese982
3 жыл бұрын
Arlington here
@bixby9797
3 жыл бұрын
Also got here from Wranglestar. I buy from HB quite a bit and it seems they are really stepping up their game. Predator generators, welders, Ikon tools. I like that they give you a choice in one store of occasional use Pittsburgh to professional quality Ikon. I buy both
@1964JEDAGI
2 жыл бұрын
@@bixby9797 Who is HB?
@bixby9797
2 жыл бұрын
@@1964JEDAGI Fat Fingers, Jeff. HF
@MrJeep75
3 жыл бұрын
Rock climbing is the most stupid motor sport you can be evolved with, don't see a point in it, but good review
@Josh-ye9ol
4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear. I been holding off getting one until this review dropped
@VictorVectorJKU
4 жыл бұрын
Good review Kelly, definitely nice seeing you put it through the paces versus that first video 😜 but I definitely agree my Apex has been pulling my JKU out of some decently stuck positions and is doing great!
@oldmanhare
4 жыл бұрын
Thought...buy the 2 year replacement plan! It is cheaper than replacing the parts, and if this happens, just take it in for a new one! Mine is setting in the garage awaiting my new bumper.
@Copehagn02
4 жыл бұрын
not only that, but at the 2yr mark can turn in for a new one and buy another 2yr warranty
@tonyteresa8145
4 жыл бұрын
@@Copehagn02 yes before you know it you have thousands of dollars in a 500 dollar winch makes no sense
@Okie-Tom
3 жыл бұрын
Nice review! Harbor Freight does make some good stuff! One question on a different sibject; what is the background music you are using? Thanks, Tom
@babranson1
3 жыл бұрын
I just installed one today. It was on sale for $450. I had a 10% no exclusion coupon. I’m glad it held up when you tortured it. I have an old Chicago Electric 10K on my gooseneck trailer. I used dual line to load six 7500 lb concrete culverts, (two per load). It still works fine.
@michaeldennis7952
2 жыл бұрын
Where for 450.00?
@MrCstone1
Жыл бұрын
Where for $450
@FMJeeping
4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Kelly. After this review , the switch is definitely a possibility on a replacement if my Warn ever decides to go out on me
@MuddyBeards4X4
4 жыл бұрын
Well I hope the warn doesn’t go out on you, lol. But this winch it is a good option for sure.
@MaynardFreek
4 жыл бұрын
I purchased the 9000 lb badlands wench on sale and that thing has more than enough power for my jk 2 door
@BornInTheDarkness-7
4 жыл бұрын
I mounted the electronics box under my hood with the supplied wire and hardware that cane with the winch. It is very strong! I use it all the time for myself and friends in the mud, high centered on the trail an so on.
@alantownsend5468
3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a good idea. Thanks for sharing!
@appalachainrider5961
Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea as I have seen a lot of people complain about them not handling water
@jacobstein7179
3 жыл бұрын
As someone that disassembled my Smittybilt X20 winch entirely that does serious off roading I can tell you I’m never buying a China winch again. No good. I’m hoping you have much better luck with the HF winch!!
@lj516
3 жыл бұрын
What part of any modern winch isn't made in china, what you are complaining about is buying TOO cheap a Chinese product and overusing it. I mean the x20 is listed for 479 online which means it's nothing close to the harbor freight winch when considering their bulk discount and the fact that it's always more than $479 even on sale.
@llspragulus
3 жыл бұрын
WOW I'm super impressed. I never would have expected that. I used to use the older 5k's to pull cars up on my flatbed trailer but, they never lasted very long. Your winch is truly impressive especially at the price point.
@barbarianleatherandblades8686
3 жыл бұрын
Episode Idea: Budget wenches. Which ones perform which ones don't. XBull now has a 14klb wench you already broke the HF 12klb. But with a quick look there are a ton of budget wenches Tractor Supply sells their brand etc. I'm curious what the best performing budget wench is. Im sure someone besides Warn or Smitty Built make a wench that's affordable and works right?
@MuddyBeards4X4
3 жыл бұрын
My HF winch works great, It was only a cosmetic crack due to my winch mount failing and bending. And if all those companies would give me one to test I would do that. But I doubt it.
@ifyoutip
3 жыл бұрын
I have owned like 1 warn, 1 super winch, and a couple harbor freight ones. However I learned that the Warn was not as good as I had hoped and cost to much and replacement parts cost what a new HF one cost. The Superwinch never disappointed like the warn and I sold it well used. It definitely was a higher quality grade of metal and even cables lasted longer on it when compared to the HF ones. I usually reorder the cables from HF by calling the number in the manual. . The stupid harbor freight ones are dirt cheap and delivered beyond expectations. I always made my own mounting plates because I don't think the bought ones are ever heavy enough. I did mount my Superwinch on a Warn plate I guess. Otherwise made my own.
@edwardanderson2345
3 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of people who are afraid to buy it just because it’s from Harbor Freight,me included but I’ve also been seeing/hearing a lot of good things about this winch to the point I might just pull the trigger on it? Great review,thanks.
@llano748
3 жыл бұрын
I see pro race teams using them. They’re legit. Harbor Freight’s new line of hand tools, whose name I forget, is being made for them by Snap-On tools.
@Alex-hh1ky
4 жыл бұрын
I like my 8274 on my TJ, but I'm probably getting this for my truck after your review
@Cotton088
3 жыл бұрын
You would trade an 8274 for a Badland??? just drop the 8274 in the mail for me... I’ll pay shipping
@coryallen6980
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cotton088 did ya get it yet?
@Cotton088
3 жыл бұрын
@@coryallen6980 hahahha
@yerwrng
4 жыл бұрын
I was considering this winch for my dodge/ tow rig when I put the winch bumper on last week but they didn't offer a big enough model since my total weight pulling the trailer loaded with the crawler is about 17.5 . I wanted to be able to just hook cable up without a block so I went with Smittybilt x20 17.5 from 4wp it was $820 with a 3 year no questions warranty it's a pretty nice winch a warn in 17.5 would cost big money . Next winch for my crawler will either be the hobo or smitty ... Warns stuff unlike my old Warn is either made 100% in China or the parts are made China and they only assemble in the USA...lol... so warn is basicly a China winch now with made in Clackamas Oregon pricing .
@pabloescobar7802
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed if you go to warn website they say engineered in America..
@Sickofsociety1
2 жыл бұрын
I think this may be my new winch. I've never heard anything bad about them since they came out. I'm not planning on doing the offroading you do but I do want to have it for times I might get stuck. Thank you for a good video and review.
@MuddyBeards4X4
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, still a great winch 3 years later.
@Pasquali369
3 жыл бұрын
I saw the original video and I didn't think your were misleading folks, as you were just trying to test stuff on the fly
@dustindenison2079
2 жыл бұрын
I've got the 12,000 lb on the front of my diesel. It's not the apex and I don't have the fancy hook or wireless controller but the winch itself has never left me stranded. Even if it were to quit working I'd get another one. It's already paid for itself multiple times
@elwayb.602
2 жыл бұрын
Can you please send this to wranglerstar on his channel he made this out to be junk and I honestly think he mounted it incorrectly idk if I can share or send this to him but I think he lied or was sponsoring warn
@Cristobal_Ygnacio_Arriaga
4 жыл бұрын
I was planning on getting one of this and wasn’t going to do any hardcore off-roading like shown in this video. Now I’m definitely getting one since for my purposes it’ll be just fine
@groberts1980
2 жыл бұрын
Great video and review. I had an Apex literally save my wife's life weekend before last on Black Bear Pass. First major switchback her front driver tire went just over the edge. I quickly came around in my Jeep, hooked up to her rear recovery point and winched her back. We've installed 3 Apex winches on our Jeeps now. We do use Factor 55 FlatLink E's instead of the Badland hook though.
@1markymark1
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review, I just pulled the trigger on one 😁
@patlsmith404
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Now I’m going to get one for my 76 CJ7 Thanks!
@adventureisoutthere.3857
2 жыл бұрын
My Apex has more than payed for itself in recoverys and it pulled a stump out of my front yard. I love it.
@stevej00
2 жыл бұрын
Good review. I think the failures are from undesigne mounts. Many folks are giving these winches a really good workouts with high frequency use. Check out Matt's Offroad Recovery.
@chrischambless
Жыл бұрын
Hmm. Okay so yours failed in exactly the same way as Wranglerstar's...I do wonder if having the solenoid remotely mounted would have prevented both failures. But I think I'm going to stay away from this one. The Comeup Seal Gen 2 12n or even 9n is top of my list. Pick your own line, fairlead and hook/link. Not a bad price on either model.
@MuddyBeards4X4
Жыл бұрын
As I have said in response to sooo many comments and mention it in the video. The winch did NOT fail. The mount failed and twisted. And yes, the cosmetic crack in my solenoid box would have been prevented by remote mounting it. The winch was powerful enough to bend both our mounts…. Not sure why that is a bad thing. I am still using the same winch 3 years later and it works awesome every time.
@stevencroft9654
Жыл бұрын
It looks like a great value with the features and extras included. it looks like they are similar in design to all the other winches out there with similar gearing to an M8000 with a more powerful motor and nice modern looks.
@sceneanuerebelrebel9244
3 жыл бұрын
I'VE owned and installed many winches and found that almost all had little to no grease in planetary assembly's.A glob on each gear that was it,I now out of the box pull em apart and service with a Lucas or graphite type lite viscosity grease no more than half pint.
@NetworkDesign3598
3 жыл бұрын
you know they have a Badlands 18000 monster
@dandahermitseals5582
Жыл бұрын
You do good useful reviews. It's a shame how little lay people know about electricity and conductivity. Also apparently even less of them are aware of the different properties between AC and DC. The battle between Tesla and Edison was huge competing for the market base of establishing the small early grids. Ultimately AC won out because AC current ( alternating) is pulsing and can be run waaay farther than DC. Anyone qualified to comment on this point are probably envolved in the science of Photovoltaics. The reason welding cables are superior is because they're designed for welding. The majority being DC reverse polarity. They don't teach us anything bout electricity in school. Most people believe a 12 volt battery is charged if it reads 12 volts. Bahaha. Dandahermit.
@nooneimportant4510
3 жыл бұрын
THAT WINCH GIVES YOU THE OPTION TO RELOCATE ALL OF THE ELECTRONIC PARTS TO ANTHER SPOT ON YOUR RIG. Mine came with all the hardware and instructions. I am glad I bought one.
@fcs389gtus
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I’m glad your experience is in line with my own. It’s been a great price of gear.
@kiddiescripterkiller
3 жыл бұрын
Use nylon / plastic screws in the cover so if it twists, it will snap the screw off and not crack the cover.
@ninja63639
Жыл бұрын
How is there Winch rope holding up?
@MuddyBeards4X4
Жыл бұрын
Great, still using original rope. But I do store it inside out of weather, sun ect.
@ninja63639
Жыл бұрын
@@MuddyBeards4X4 I appreciate you getting back to me. I bought a used warn CTI with cable, but it had a huge kink in it. I couldn’t see spending as much on winch rope as I did on the winch so I bought the badlands winch rope. Just wanted to make sure it was a decent quality before I put it on and couldn’t return it to me. It looks identical to the Warn spydura, even down to the welds on the end loop
@Adam-th9vs
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who actually paid for one of these piles of junk, mine worked ONCE. No warranty, no help from HF, NOTHING. It's now a pile of scrap metal in the garage with damage to the geartrain/motor from simply pulling my 2017 Jeep JKU Rubicon out of mud, axle deep mud, but I was able to pull myself out using tiny trees, I wasn't pulling that hard. Went home that afternoon and bought a Warn to replace it with as I didn't figure HF would exchange it or refund the money as it was a fair bit of time before I used it. Save yourself the trouble, buy a Warn VR12S and prevent yourself from having to pull it and swap parts.
@madman432000
Жыл бұрын
This seems to have broke the same way that Wranglerstar had one break. Inadequate mounting surface could be the culprit in both it seems.
@MuddyBeards4X4
Жыл бұрын
It definitely was the case for both of us. He just decided to blame the winch instead.
@mikefowler1313
4 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous, you said you like this badland better than a Warn 8724....seriously? Your jeep weight is 4k and your using a 12k winch and your calling it a beast? Nobody in three right mind would take this review as legitimate. You have nothing bad to say about the winch because it was free and your jeep is light. Put jeep in a situation where you have to overcome resistance and see how the winch holds up. All you examples show winch pulling jeep with no resistance, just loss of traction
@GEORGEFIRE777
Жыл бұрын
Good test for the winch == I do see a problem = the way the mount plate is bent up it shows that the angle of the cable coming out is wrong RESULTING IN loading up the pressure on the mount plate . This is your fault ,when winching heavy load get the cable as straight as possible in relation to the anchor point . This is good training point on what not to do ,so correcting this will add to the longer lift of this or any winch. I hope to do a winch out technique training video when i get time. OVERALL good video an discussion.
@slik560
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but I’ll buy American whenever & wherever possible. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@Cotton088
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck
@TheBeardedJeeper
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a decent little winch
@babapapa8063
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had 2 12k Ramsey hydraulic winches on my tow truck for 10 years now and i’m thinking about putting a heavy bumper on the front of my truck with one of these winches just for fun because I get a lot of smaller winch out jobs where someone stuck in their driveway in winter And I think it would be a cool addition to my tow truck but it ain’t got nothing on a Ramsey hydraulic winch
@mrmotofy
3 жыл бұрын
Incorporate it into a 2" receiver for example and wire an Anderson plug front and rear so you can use it in front or the rear, or put it on a car trailer
@mikesters3532
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I like the “wench” or the “winch” better. Appears everyone has an issue saying “winch” multiple times without dropping a few “wenches” in! Lol! Nice rig and video!
@grantdavis5992
2 жыл бұрын
I bought one of those Apex winches in July of 2020, and it didn't last 2 months before literally burning up. Again, I can't blame the winch. I had it in my buddy's shop and was planning to fabricate a mounting system for the front of my Excursion. Creek Fire in September took out his whole shop including a 2001 XJ which I had been working on. The worst loss for us in that fire was the log cabin my grandfather had built in 1921 at Huntington Lake and which had been our family's real home all those years, wherever we moved around the country.
@jzakary1
4 жыл бұрын
$600 for a winch is way too much when the company is in China. I'm sure it works great now, but the second something goes wrong (and it always goes wrong), you're never going to get customer service to fix or replace it. Even if it's still under warranty. Harbor Freight has always been for people who cant afford the real stuff. It's the Dollar Store equivalent for hardware. You didn't mind when your socket wrench eventually broke, because it only cost you a couple bucks. At $600 this winch is crossing over into Warn winch territory, which is ridiculous.
@ljbenziger
4 жыл бұрын
The warn winch this competes with is $1200-1500
@triot2127
3 жыл бұрын
@@ljbenziger More like the Warn VR EVO 12-S. Which goes for around $850.
@mrmotofy
3 жыл бұрын
You should actually research and talk to people that use the stuff. Many select items are very good.
@consaka1
3 жыл бұрын
I have two of the old 12,000 lb ones. Never had any problems and I use them for logging. Lol. Definitely a little bit tougher on them then any recovery I have done. I bent up my mount plate too but it was a receiver mount plate.
@kiphenricksen6029
3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I think it is safe to say that any kind of logging aka tree tugging is a fantastic way to shorten the lifespan of....well....EVERYTHING, from the winch to my knees back and shoulders haha! I started high lead logging in Forks Washington, in about 1993, and after way to many years on steep ass ground I finally graduated into a nice warm machine! However I still bring my boys firewood logging every weekend with the F350 and our less than stellar 12V riggin Lmao! Honestly it is darn hard to be impressed by any electric recovery winches once a fella has had some of the finest logging hoists that money can buy, just waiting for a whistle to pull as hard as you wish with the beep beep beep of a whistle!!
@jackihurst8350
2 жыл бұрын
On another note how much do you like your Hitachi driver by the way do not buy the metabo version there is a big difference in it
@MuddyBeards4X4
2 жыл бұрын
Had it for years and it has been great, same with the drill 👍🏻
@nicholasbaldwin1674
4 жыл бұрын
great video. this is the winch I have had my eyes on
@dstock138
Жыл бұрын
Hey there I love your vids. Is that a harbor freight synthetic winch line as well that you have ?
@MuddyBeards4X4
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, it comes with the synthetic line.
@DirtComplex
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Now I don't have to make my own long term review video.
@CMDR-Cody
2 жыл бұрын
i'm thinking of getting one for my WJ.
@dandahermitseals5582
Жыл бұрын
Other than a 3/8" mount plate you could start with an estimated stack of washers in the low corner and slowly Tighten the high side to preload it it torsionally and let it set several times resetting it's memory. And nest the bottom in with a group of heavy C channels for the girder principal. It would never deform again. Dandahermit
@davidthielen9097
Жыл бұрын
OMG this video is amazing.
@edge540steve
3 жыл бұрын
Great review, new sub. I’m in Tacoma so see you on the trail.
@markg3305
Жыл бұрын
I really have to say thank you! You have helped me with my decision! I have seen another person break this winch and he seamed to be to prideful to admit he broke it and instead blamed it on the winch
@MuddyBeards4X4
Жыл бұрын
👊🏻
@llongdong
3 жыл бұрын
I had a 10k winch with a wire cable. Gol dang thing frayed and snapped whilst in the midst of a pull. That flying cable sliced straight through my buddy Elliot's cowboy hat (he loved that hat) and took a little of his scalp with it. Needless to say, Elliot's a lucky feller. Ever since then, I've went with the synthetic rope.
@1964JEDAGI
2 жыл бұрын
The issue I have is that both the cast motor cover and the top housing cracked. All I need is the housing. Not all the electric components inside that makes it cost $200. The cast aluminum housing that covers the motor is not listed in the parts list.
@6x6Tortuga
Жыл бұрын
I like mine as well =)
@igobyscooter
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Great honest review 👍
@aarondavidsmith208
3 жыл бұрын
Does the wireless remote charge when its plugged in to the winch?
@ARluvr1
9 ай бұрын
Badass rig you have there. And I’m picking one of these winches up this week. Thanks for the review.
@hamo0od918
Жыл бұрын
looks like this is a common issue with this winch, i saw another review where it broke at the same exact area
@MuddyBeards4X4
Жыл бұрын
It is not an issue with the winch, the mount failed. Not the winches fault. I have had it for almost 4 years and it still works great. I put another one on my S10 I am building.
@abc-ed1nr
Жыл бұрын
So this video is now 2 years old. Do you still have and use this winch?? I’m wondering if it really is quality!? I’d be putting it on a roughly 7000# off roader truck
@MuddyBeards4X4
Жыл бұрын
I have 2, on both my off-road vehicles and they both work awesome. No issues.
@abc-ed1nr
Жыл бұрын
@@MuddyBeards4X4 both wranglers? I wonder if mine being almost double your weight would be a problem
@MuddyBeards4X4
Жыл бұрын
The Wrangler and the straight axle swapped S10. It’s a 12k winch it will be just fine. People use them on full size rigs all the time.
@robertlowenthal425
3 жыл бұрын
I purchased the winch yesterday because of your review. The install was very easy in my factory jlu metal bumper group I am a weekend Warrior .
@Tymopta
3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if the clutch lever can be spun 180 degrees for a bottom forward mounting?
@ybbGold
2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I’m impressed that they have a list of replacement parts. I’ll be buying one soon. Thanks
@jhill1023
2 жыл бұрын
Great Video, I just bought a new 2021 Broco Badlands/Sasquach and have a birthday coming up, Gonna see if this will work on my Bronco without blocking my front camera. Again, Excellent video...
@MuddyBeards4X4
2 жыл бұрын
Nice, good luck👊🏻
@scotts496
7 ай бұрын
can the top piece be located somewhere else or is integral to its design it be there?
@MuddyBeards4X4
7 ай бұрын
You can install it remotely, it has extra wires and mounts for that. In my S10, I had to remove the solenoid and wireless receiver from the case and mount it on the core support because of space. Been there for a year with no issues.
@mathewtownsend5688
2 жыл бұрын
Were able to just replace the cover or did you have to get the electronics too?
@MuddyBeards4X4
2 жыл бұрын
The cover comes with all the electronics and a new remote.
@YJKadventure
4 жыл бұрын
Just bought it last month. Got 30% off of the 599 with a coupon and opening up a credit card. This video makes me oven more confident about my purchase than I already was. Thank you!
@mrpw1402
3 жыл бұрын
Reminder too if you get the extended warrantee you could just swapped out the entire winch at store
@ken85225
3 жыл бұрын
That's a great point
@SooSmokie
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats $100 for 2 years. Not really worth it
@mrpw1402
3 жыл бұрын
@@SooSmokie only $100! Claim it out every two years for 100 bucks for a brand new winch
@SooSmokie
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrpw1402 thats expensive though. Replace it the first time and im in $700. Could have bought a warn for that price
@mrpw1402
3 жыл бұрын
@@SooSmokie equal spec warns are $2k
@bannablitz247
2 жыл бұрын
I remember somebody at one point commenting on how factor 55 stuff is cool and well engineered nothing beats a giant open hook that just works.
@gtcam723
4 ай бұрын
Ok what do you like better about this than the 8274? I never have been up to Reiter. Maybe when the Jeep is whole again. Also, this is inspiring me to get back to working on my TJ and get it back on the road. What size freakin tires are you running on that anyway?
@bsideadventures2180
4 жыл бұрын
Good review. Thanks for your service sir.
@MuddyBeards4X4
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad it helped
@Riskybyz28
2 жыл бұрын
Does the wireless handle charge its battery when used wirelessly?
@MuddyBeards4X4
2 жыл бұрын
No, It has a battery which will need to be replaced eventually. I am on more than 2 years, same factory battery.
@jackiejoe8930
3 жыл бұрын
Like the regular joe shmo LOVE IT! Thanks showing us how to have fun on the value parts
@amorton94
3 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely getting one for my F250 once I figure out a mount for the factory Tremor bumper.
@mikerasmussen7993
2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up my 12 k winch yesterday 🤠
@MuddyBeards4X4
2 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@gusp5695
5 ай бұрын
Loved the review. Just mounted it to the bumper. Now going to add more beef to the mount.
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