C’mon guys share this video we need to see Thomas eat that 🥩 😂😂😂
@mikeyb6639
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely well said. Synergy is what makes a great system regardless of components and price.
@stephanloper5740
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video, so true and wonderfully entertaining at the same time. Many greetings from Cologne
@kartickgrover
Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that someone can talk so maturely about hifi. I don’t own this amp but echo with your thoughts in general about synergy and the way one has to make their system work together. You just earned a subscriber! Thanks for talking sense 👍👍
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
“Hard to believe that someone can talk so maturely about hifi”. Most interesting statement I have read so far. Its a hobby of big & heavy opinions. I feel most of us come to conclusions too quickly after a small sample of auditions which do not tell the whole story. But at the same time, we react to the audience pull, and often times it feels like the audience doesn’t want to think maturely, people want an easy simple answer. But Hi-Fi is not simple. Thank you for your mature comment sir. I am happy to have you as subscriber. And thank you for sparking a topic for a future video.
@joshuaschneck
Жыл бұрын
Cool. Just ordered an R300 yesterday - there is now a 5 week wait on Amazon ! Part of me is hoping this amp won’t sound better than my Elekit 8600S that cost me $3k with all the upgrades. But… with a 30 day return window from Amazon, I figure I need to give it a try. To me, the Elekit (that btw Herb Reichert raved about) sounds a bit lean to me… I probably like a more colored sound. Waiting for Thomas to post a video of his experiences upgrading the capacitors on the Willsenton - seems like a simple upgrade.
@eversway7540
Жыл бұрын
Very well said about synergy. I’m a collector and to me, that’s one of the best parts of listening find that with different components. The price and reviews will pull most to this amp if you are fortunate to have the gear to find it. Great review!
@DJ_BROBOT
Жыл бұрын
These dudes ain't lying.. even on my modest system I put a cyberpower system on my rig with sideways and a large car battery based power supply...and it made my system sound so sweet and holographic is was nuts
@philippelabrecque6658
Жыл бұрын
Ta meilleur vidéo à date pour moi my friend. Very well made, interesting, truth telling, funny, the complete package! Keep it up! Viens d'essayer ( 1 mois)le DC block de Audiolab après avoir vu la video de Huff. J'avais pas l'argent pour un puritan. J'ai ramasser ma mâchoire du plancher. La composante la plus impressionnante à date considérant le prix! Le bruit a reculer de plusieurs pieds et le son est resté. Et J'avais déjà un Niagara. L'image centrale a triplé de grosseur! Mind blown ! Je vais pimper cette petite boite jusqu'à la stratosphère avec 5 modifications différentes . Ca va être malade! Anyway, enjoyed your video a lot!
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Cool Mr Labrecque!! En effet, ma mâchoire aussi a tomber.
@geoffreydebrito7934
Жыл бұрын
It's a chain of components from source to speakers to room. Every link in the chain matters.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Amen!!!
@merlingarnett3613
Жыл бұрын
Sensitivity def a factor. I think Lii Audio drivers can be a bit forward in the midrange for some peeps so I can see why T&S found synergy with the forgiving little amp. Great vid as always
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@LeoRousseau
Жыл бұрын
lol. Thanks for the early morning comedy! Great info! Smash that like button people! Smash it! 👊
@huskydogg7536
Ай бұрын
Synergy is what the young girl wants, synergy...
@joenovak6393
Жыл бұрын
What timing...I received the Willsenton R300 last week and putting 150hr Burn-In and my unit is quite as a church mouse. I have a thread at AudioKarma in which I replaced 3 Caps due to Unnamed brand. Everything in my unit uses UCC, Nichicon and I will be swapping out the "3" Willsenton Films (.22/.33 630V) to Mundorf Supreme Silver/Oil. I would invest in a Tube Tester as they are not very expensive. Sound wise, with the Stock tubes it does SING very well. After 150hrs will be switching to NOS tubes for some Tube Rolling.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
You, sir, are awesome!! Love what you are doing!
@markhershberger9477
Жыл бұрын
Hi Loic, You seriously have my interests peaked about the Willsenton 300B as does Thomas and Steve. I’ve got 95db sensitive 8ohm rated PureAudioProject Trio Classic Voxativ PiFe’s. ….wondering how they/and my room would be with the Willsenton. I also have the PSM 156 as I mentioned to you in my post on your feature on the 156. I’ll stay tuned to any future content you care to share ….and thank you!
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
in writing it looks like the PureAudioProject trio would sound great with the R300. But that is where it stops for my opinion, as I have not heard PureAudio Project open baffle speakers and I am unaware of their sound signature. Im dying to know tho. :-)
@arifnizami3378
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried 834 or 211 based SET amps with the F15 or F18? If yes, then how does the sound compare to using 300B based amps. Thanks in advance for your views.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Yes I have. My reference is a 211 class A SE. I will be spending time with the f18 next week and will make a video on it.
@JingoLoBa57
Жыл бұрын
The HT sound clip is amazing. Can we have more of these?
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
at the beginning? with the speaker in the ear shot?
@pkats9093
Жыл бұрын
Well said! Keep the entertaining videos coming my friend!
@MusicLover-01
Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic content Loic 👏 👌 This is the reason to have different gear to play with.
@danmccabe2023
Жыл бұрын
Love your prospective on audio gear when will the F18 be done breaking in? I would love to hear your comparisons between the F15, F18, and even the Fast 15. I've been looking at the F15 and F18 for what seems like decades now
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
they are still breaking in. f15 and fast15 are very different sounding. fast15 extends more in the top and in the bottom, however it does so at the cost of the warmth in the midrange compared to the f15. I will speak about the f18s in an upcoming video.
@darrenburtoft1792
Жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks 👍🏻
@IvoCoric
Жыл бұрын
That's why Audio Note is the best ! Syergy is the key ! From the source up to the speakers all made to work togheter !
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
One could say that about PS audio as well, full systems from a single brand should sound great! All designed together. But, its not always the case.
@user-od9iz9cv1w
Жыл бұрын
WRT two rectifiers. My guess is yes, it is dual mono power supply. When I built my ultimate Steamer/DAC I went all out on power supply. The triode output has two completely separate power supplies. Each have fully separate transformers and their own rectifier followed by film (not electrolytic) caps and chokes. I stopped short of using multiple power cords but do use 8 gauge wire. BTW, I think that the life may be slowly sucking out of my rectifiers so thanks for this video. I need to buy some new 5u4g tubes to benchmark the performance. Any thoughts on where to get decent ones at a reasonable price?
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Cant say. When I need new tubes I shop around. As stocks are always changing.
@peace-yv4qd
Жыл бұрын
Try Viva tubes. Theres also a review of the 300B on china hi-fi thats quite good. He recommends tube upgrades.
@adamphillips1263
5 ай бұрын
If the wire inside your wall, feeding the outlet, is 12 or 14 ga, what are the advantages of using 8 ga?
@user-od9iz9cv1w
5 ай бұрын
@@adamphillips1263 I agree, it makes no sense. First I tried 20gauge. I jumped over 14 and went straight to heavy wire so it is quite possible 8 provides no benefit over 14. I can report that the heavy cords were substantially better than either light wire or typical commercial IEC cords.
@adamphillips1263
5 ай бұрын
@@user-od9iz9cv1w By better, do you mean you could actually hear a difference in some aspect of sound quality? I'm asking because I have never tried such a thing. I've never tried it because it doesn't make sense - but what matters is the sound - it doesn't have to make sense, it just needs to sound good.
@LeonFleisherFan
Жыл бұрын
Great video, even if I'm hoping you're aren't done goofing around now, that would be pity! One rectifier per channel, the reply you got is correct, it's not automatically an indication that an amp is dual mono. Researching pics of the internals on the web it doesn't look to be the case. It already seems incredibly inexpensive as it is. As to system synergy, I agree wholeheartedly with all you said. What I find incredibly difficult is synergy is impossible to predict unless one buys a complete system from a brand that specializes in designing synergistic systems (e.g. Spectral/MIT were among the first audiophile brands in the eighties that practically gave customers no choice, and one would still need to find synergistic speakers to go with it), versus what 99% of audiophiles appear to do, which I refer to as mixing and matching. We (my audiophile buddies and I) have recently struggled pairing Decware's 25th Anniversary amp with, so far, five different speakers. Needless to say, at 2.3 Watts everyone expected high-sensitivity speakers to fare best (we tried 96dB spherical horns, 94dB backloaded horns, 96dB dynamic speakers from a Swiss brand that Steve Deckert said look like the smartest design he's ever seen, 85dB bookshelf speakers by a legendary German designer who specializes in impulse, i.e. phase and time, optimized designs, and my own 91.5dB speakers that follow the same path). Instead, it turns out "Little Ms D", as one of my audiophile buddies calls the amp now (a prima donna?), likes, at least that's my best guess at this point, loudspeakers whose electrical phase show the least anomalies. But again, that's an educated guess that comes after the fact (trying in person). The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
“What I find incredibly difficult is synergy is impossible to predict unless one buys a complete system from a brand..”. I know what you mean. What makes me sad in this hobby, is the scenario where someone can buy a very expensive amplifier that they have waited years of saving their earnings to be able to buy it, and when they finally buy it they plug it in their systems and it makes synergy worse then what they had before. It happens all the time. (I have the T-shirt). There are indicators to look at such as circuit design, brands of parts used, etc, but it requires a vast experience and memory to get there and it is not possible for everyone. But even then, all it takes is a different tiny resistor sometimes and the sound will feel different then what we anticipated. For matching Decware to speakers, I had a hard time once with an amplifier, and the isue was my dac at the time was making the amp run way too lean that I was overlooking great speakers thinking it was a mismatch between speaker and amp. But when I changed the dac, the signature changed and now the amp sounded great with most speakers. Anyway, its complicated. When you experience full blown synergy, even with an entry level system it stops you in your tracks. You become mesmerized by the music.
@LeonFleisherFan
Жыл бұрын
@@hificave That is an excellent point you're making! The DACs used in those systems were all different (the dCS Delius/Purcell combo, the dCS Vivaldi stack, the Ayon tube DAC, a Boenicke server/DAC prototype, the Lampizator Horizon tube DAC). Of the different amplifier/loudspeaker combinations, the Decware sounded by far the most dynamic, alive and powerful with the Vivaldi ("uninhibited" really, totally belying its wattage, versus more or less dynamically flat/compressed). Needless to say, the different source components synergistically blend into the respective systems with no problems at all. Cables were all different as well, some costing more than the little amp. What strikes me is that one could easily jump to conclusions and think the amp isn't any good, let alone as it's reported to be. Personally, I have a rule that when I hear a component sound great in a system, I'm assuming it has potential, whereas when I hear a bad demo, I'll defer judgment realizing any number of things can go wrong.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
“… Im hoping you aren’t done goofing around” I have to show signs of intelligence here and there… sometimes. I need to have fun, and fun for me=goofing around having a good laugh. Have no fear lots of stupid jokes to come.
@peace-yv4qd
Жыл бұрын
Nice timing. My 300B is on it's way. Shipped out of China on 1/16. $1281.40 with shipping. Now the search for a speaker best suited for my new amp. Any suggestions that won't break the bank? Very good review. Thanks.Also something to note. Theres a review of the 300-B by a customer on China Hi-Fi. He makes several suggestions regarding tube rolling the 300B.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
I cant make a speaker suggestion. With any recommendation I would make, there is a 50% chance it does not fall in to what you like or doesn't have the type of sound you enjoy. It is very hard to do without knowing you. BUT, you are in luck, this amp sounds very good with majority of speakers that are over 90db of sensitivity(very safe bet). If you can, audition speakers before you settle. So careful of return policies when you pull the trigger.
@irisfinchmusic
Жыл бұрын
Triangle Genese Trio & Tekton Perfect Set I really like both paired with a 10 watt Luxman EL84 tube amp. The Triangles have a large sound (paired with a sub). The Tektons need 300 hours to break in.
@peace-yv4qd
Жыл бұрын
@@irisfinchmusic Thank you for the info. Considering a Lii Song floor standing speaker line. Good bang for the buck factor. Cheers.
@leewaichoi7900
11 ай бұрын
Klipsch Forte IV
@user-od9iz9cv1w
Жыл бұрын
Great discussion BTW. Jay proved that the MOFI speakers can sound pretty bad in a $600k system and pretty good in a much lower priced system.
@mauriciomucino1015
Жыл бұрын
Know I am really curious about that frankendac, what is it exacly is there any video about it?
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Yep yep! Check out my channel. I have 3 videos that I show it off. Its a musical paradise mpd2 mk3 deluxe with pricy caps, tubes & fuse upgrades.
@mauriciomucino1015
Жыл бұрын
@@hificave thanks as soon as I finish here I am going to look for allá three, thanks man, love Your attitude towards hifi and the "synergy" You and Thomas have!
@jimichonga2001
Жыл бұрын
What Ohm out put did you use out of the back of the 300 to Lii drivers? 4, 8, or 16? I got a 300 and a pair Liionidas - Fast 10 and W15
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Loki appreciate the Video - I agree about Synergy - You'll know when its 🔥 - If you get time give Alice in chains a 👂 their MTV unplugged cd is the chronic ! 😆
@cabronesse386
Жыл бұрын
That wagyu steak is a beautiful synergistic piece of equipment, you and Thomas should eat it soon regardless you achieve 3.5K subs or not. LOL
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Oh its happening. :-)
@kamijani1
Жыл бұрын
Wait, forget the 300b- I need to know more about Puritan Audio! Please tell me you’re working on covering that in an upcoming vid
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Did you not notice the preview at the beginning? :-) i have two systems left to test it in, and film my buddies impressions. Video coming this weekend.
@kamijani1
Жыл бұрын
Ugh, I think I was getting ready for something while that preview was playing and missed the whole four different flavors thing. Looking forward!
@NeilBlanchard
Жыл бұрын
I would propose that the idea of synergy can also be thought of as *everything matters*. Everything in audio starts with power supply. You have my attention with the Puritan PSM156; but at $2300 it is a lot more money than I can think about. I have a Pine Tree Audio Iso-Power ($250) with one of their Iso-Braid AC cords ($85 for 5'), and the same cords for my AkitikA PR-102 and GT-104, and the dual voltage linear power supply that is for my Node 2i and Geshelli J2 AKM DAC, and Audiolab CDT600 transport. Playing through my MLTL-11 or MLTL-6 speakers - is like nothing else I have heard in 40+ years. The Pearl Acoustics Sibelius is a mass loaded transmission line, and I think that this is a big part of it. My MLTL-6 speakers use a 6" paper cone woofer (13.8 gram Mms) and they are essentially flat to 32Hz in my room. My working theory is that TL have lower air pressure in the cabinet, and so they work more like open baffle in the midrange.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It all matters.
@oldschoolaudioenthusiast
Жыл бұрын
Loic - I just subscribed for a micro-bite of the steak you'll be buying for Thomas! Medium rare dude!
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Never over medium rare. Blue, rare or medium rare. Anything more is a crime.
@davidalza5546
Жыл бұрын
Hello. I hope that you haven’t already answered the question I am going to ask in this or another one of your videos. If you did, sorry for asking again. You didn’t say too much in this video about the sound of the Willsenton R300 matched with the Lii Audio F15. Here’s what you did say: “Used the Willsenton R300 with this (I think you were referring to the Lii Audio F15 in open baffles), I get it, I really do. Everything he said in his video, true. … This thing is one performing little romantic integrated amplifier.” It sounds like you liked it, but could you give a little bit more information about how this pairing sounds? I recall reading in a comment somewhere, by someone, that this pairing wasn’t ideal. What are your thoughts? I have a clone of a Caintuck Audio Lii15 baffle and am considering pairing it with this amp one day. I really appreciate a lush, warm, dimensional midrange with decay, as well as good dynamic energy and percussive precision (drums, strings, etc.). Super detailed, stringent highs and thumping bass are not my priorities. I would be interested in whether you think this pairing would match my audio preferences. Thanks in advance!👍
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
the pairing is beautiful in sound. the synergy between your source and this amp will come into play tho. its providing some warmth, and romance with the lii-audio. But its still on the neutral spectrum. like you wont get a huge bump in warmth. But with the right dac, you could.
@davidalza5546
Жыл бұрын
@@hificave Thank you for your feedback. Maybe one day we'll get a full review of your Lii open baffle speakers with the Willsenton R300. I for one would be interested!
@duylevan985
Жыл бұрын
Do you think it works well with Gustard R26+U18 and B&W 705 S3? Thanks
@anjovandijk9797
Жыл бұрын
please a review of the Puritan PSM 156/136 is it worth the money
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Its coming, thats why I showed the preview at the beginning.
@MrRourk
Жыл бұрын
Have you experienced a Leak Stereo 20 playing jazz? Has to be the best all time jazz amp.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no, I have not. Going to look it up.
@MrRourk
Жыл бұрын
@@hificave My friend was playing Gilles Peterson - Desert Island Mix on it this last weekend. - Just Wow!
@dougg1075
Жыл бұрын
I want it
@thomasfi1275
Жыл бұрын
You talked about the better performance of your friends speaker after moving the speaker in the room. The bass was also better. Did you listen to your friends amp at this speaker position? The better bass could be caused by different room acoustics, room modes.
@HifiBoomer
Жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas FI, To answer your question if tried moving my speakers forward with my amps (Anthem or Emotiva ) the answer is YES ! All I was able to get was kinda midbass and not low down clean bass like we heard that day. Hope this helps
@thomasfi1275
Жыл бұрын
@@HifiBoomer Hello Carl. Thanks. Do not understand why the Willsenton should have deeper bass at the same position. The SS Anthem (I own the integrated 225) has lots of power and control. Maybe you hear a tighter, better controlled bass…..
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
His emotiva is setup on an Anthem receiver, with a built in dac. The difference in sound between the r300 and a pontus dac is night and day. And bass was the most surprising, and the tonal balance. The speakers were alive compared to using his HT except for depth of soundstage and speaker disappearing act which wasnt perfect at first. Once the speakers were moved to their proper places everything was perfect.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
I suspect the issue with using the emotiva amp and his speakers has to do with bad synergy between the emptiva and the HT receiver, and its dac.
@thomasfi1275
Жыл бұрын
@@hificave so that means with the Willsenton amp you also used a different DAC , compared to the SS amp setup…??
@AmazonasBiotop
Жыл бұрын
Is it not a description of any/every tube? That it is always a slippery road down. (I don't know I am a solid state guy) I have heard PS audio Paul at one point say he swap in new tubes once a year. Just because they degrading slowly and it is not noticable over time and when swapped the jump up to new state is noticeably. But apparently tubes bring something to the table that it's worth inserting slowly sound degrading components in the system. It is not only degrading by some I think it were Paul again that said. That new tubes start it's lifespan sound quality wise not at their full potential and during "burn in"/usage they get after x hours to it's peak performance and then it from there goes downhill. In other words if I understand it correctly they are in a constant flux. Not only that when you're very serious and optimize them so they are matched left and right tube. By buying the service that someone is measuring and matching them for you. So all that said. I wonder that the tubes insert something that solid state can't do, otherwise there should be no reason for their existence 🤣 ? One day maybe I may get the tube experience in my system.. Thanks for your entertaining video!🙏
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
It all sounds good. If its paired with the right speakers and other components in the mix.
@AmazonasBiotop
Жыл бұрын
@@hificave Yes that is synergy but solid state or whatever has also synergy with the other components in the system. So the question is if we have the same amount of synergy in a tube or solid state then what is the difference? A low power solid state class A is probably a very unusual HW. In comparison to all higher powered class A/B or D, H, G solid state amplifiers. Yes thanks to Nelson Pass there is some few. With that said there is not many comparisons between same layout and power class A amplifiers that is tubes or solid state. So it is hard to do comparisons. When they are not overdriven then they say tubes has a more pleasant distortion character than solid state. But again is that with both of them in class A? There is so many variables as you have experienced, just swap out the rectifier. So most likely the amps have not the same of anything to be able to judge them against each other.. 🤔
@roger_roger777
Жыл бұрын
I'm considering this amp or a primaluna prologue 5 using 94db speakers in a smallish room. Which amp should I go for? Both similar in cost.
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Not the same sound man. Both will sound good.
@larsv6144
Жыл бұрын
Compared to the Galion 120?
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
Not in the same league. This was perfect synergy with a performance level representative of the components used. Galion steps up this performance level, but cant say the synergy is the same with these components. But I intend to find out.
@adamphillips1263
5 ай бұрын
If you want to know the truth about the Wilsenton R300, watch this series of videos from Skunkie Designs. Her work on the R8 caused Wilsenton to change their R8 amps and shr has a video series on how to do the modifications yourself if you have an older one. kzitem.info/door/PLtEhh3UpOsiDd4EZsf_AL3ovGoUlNh8Py
@hificave
5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@thomasleong9401
2 ай бұрын
This Sunkie tech is just trying to sell her own amps and tend to mislead by discouraging buyers on faults in the Wilsenton over her DIY built. Yet the Willsenton 300B is a really musical amp, don't fall for the fear factors. I owned them and the Reising A50Mk2, both delivers to their price point, and very musical to be fair.
@adamphillips1263
2 ай бұрын
@@thomasleong9401 Not true. She is not misleading anyone. She is telling the truth to the public. To my knowledge, she is not producing 300B amps for sale. She has however provided a schematic and bill of materials for free to anyone who wants to build an outstanding 300B amp. There is no fear factor - either a grounding scheme is safe, or not. An amp with large amounts of negative feedback has no chance of sounding 'musical' compared to a properly designed amp using zero negative feedback. It's not rocket science- audio amplifier design has been common knowledge since the 1920's. Any company with the capacity to churn out thousands of these amps and send them around the globe should be expected to produce well-engineered, hi-performance gear at a decent price. Getting transformers with rocks potted into the cans does not equal well-engineered or hi-performance. Some of these companies are taking advantage of people who don't know what a good 'musical' amp sounds like. Some produce decent stuff and Skunkie will give credit where credit is due.
@cobar5342
Жыл бұрын
Before swooning about the R300 I suggest you view a well known YBer who dissected this amp The design was woeful How it could be well reviewed is beyond me, but it has been. The two rectifiers are part of that poor design that has fooled many people
@hificave
Жыл бұрын
You didnt like the sound when you heard it?
@cobar5342
Жыл бұрын
@@hificave Have a look at her videos. You will be shocked. Two rectifier tubes, two large diodes...an inexplicable sine wave...
@Winterfell1066
10 ай бұрын
Why is this video dark and shadowy like a horror movie?
@Michael-bj4sz
11 ай бұрын
You didn’t mention that the 8 watt amp doesn’t deliver 8 watts, or that the soft start circuit is really delay circuit and adds distortion, or that the rectifier circuit isn’t designed correctly, has a history of killing the rectifier tubes, or that the rectifier circuit has been redesigned at least 3 times by the manufacturer to “fix” the rectifier circuit so it doesn’t kill the rectifier tubes and still adds distortion and still kills the rectifier tubes.
@hificave
11 ай бұрын
Damn, no, I didnt have that. Ouch!!!! So sorry to hear that.
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