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@totalgelion6714
6 жыл бұрын
I think she cared about people and gems just not the same way a normal person could I think Greg was the closest to loving for her
@xhomiegreninjax137
6 жыл бұрын
Hold on I just realized something... if Pink Diamond wasn't actually a Rose Quartz Gem, wouldn't that mean Rainbow Quartz and Smokey Quartz aren't Quartzes either?
@emilyholson2717
6 жыл бұрын
I LOVE your videos
@mustachetwirler7617
6 жыл бұрын
The Roundtable Crypto; “I’ve already learned a lot about love as it comes in two varieties on my part; one is my love of carnage upon humanity, and the other is when I go Bowchickawowow during my free time!” Orthopox; “I only learned one form of love, and it is loving myself as the omnipotent, ultimate, supreme emperor of the Furon race!”
@Swacy873
6 жыл бұрын
The Roundtable where is pink diamonds jem now if pearl had it in her hand
@beanie7042
6 жыл бұрын
I kinda thought that Rose mistook Pearl's love as a Pearl worshipping her Diamond, which was something Rose did not want. She thought of Pearl as a sister or best friend, but she couldn't see that Pearl was devoted because she was in love. At least that's my opinion. EDIT: Wow, I never got over 450 likes before. Thanks so much. 😊😁 EDIT: Over 600 likes?! Not gonna lie, this a first. Thanks. ☺️😄
@LadyLuckyLu
6 жыл бұрын
Fuzzy Paws Same
@YourMajesty_1O1
6 жыл бұрын
Fuzzy Paws i thought so too. But thats just too sad
@leefollett6017
6 жыл бұрын
Fuzzy Paws that actually makes me feel better about the tragic heartbreak feels.
@LordofFullmetal
6 жыл бұрын
Counter offer: Maybe she didn't "mistake it". It's entirely possible that Pearl's the one mistaking her gem worship for love. We don't actually know how much free will our Pearl has, especially since she never managed to separate herself from her diamond. Even now she's still technically "serving" the same gem. Unlike everyone else, she never really escaped her master. Obviously she's developed some, at least since Rose died - she HAD to. But as we've seen with Peridot and Lapis, it's not that easy to convince any gem to get over their diamond worship, let alone a Pearl.
@JustThatLauren
6 жыл бұрын
It's true. It may have felt wrong to her to reciprocate romantic feelings coming from the position of power she was in.
@13angelsfalling
6 жыл бұрын
It's really sad the relationship between Pearl and Rose. Rose kind of manipulated Pearl, and lied to Greg. It's horrible, she didn't care about Pearl or the Diamonds, Rose never really had empathy.
@dexdrako
6 жыл бұрын
except that's not what happened. pink made no declaration of monogamy or even that kind of love to pearl, she love her like a sister of best friends and she fulfilled there promises of living with pearl on earth as that sisterly BFF way. its not pinks fault for not feeling as deeply for pearl as she did for rose. and the show already said Rose was going to tell Greg as he told Steven in one of the epoisdes where Steven asked about rose " she felt she had to tell me everything but i told her all i care about is who you are right now."
@13angelsfalling
6 жыл бұрын
dexdrako Yes, but also she started a gem war and let thousands of gems die, just for a single planet.
@dexdrako
6 жыл бұрын
rose didn't start they gem war just for earth, another large part of the war was to free gems form the oppressive rule of home world. sure you can say the war "failed" because most of the crystal gems where taken out but that doesn't mean Rose wasn't honest about why she fought the war. after all Rose didn't plan for the diamonds to use the corruption song that was their doing not hers. rose wanted a world where humans and gems could live as they pleased. if it had worked who knows how much father it my have went, rebellion tend to spreads like fire when people see it can work.
@germyforev4495
6 жыл бұрын
Yet it is all made pointless as none of the crystal gems were ever free. They simply served another diamond that allowed them more freedom.
@dexdrako
6 жыл бұрын
that's were you're wrong Germy Forev. the show makes it clear pink didn't want to be a ruler, she may have been leading the rebellion but that doesn't mean she'll be a queen after. her own words say she want to live free and earth like with the rest of the crystal gems. but even if that was the case its like saying people weren't free after the American revolution because they had a president. the gems didn't follow rose because of where she can form or because the social order said so. they followed rose because she inspired them with her words and action. the gems that followed her were free
@ellistorris
6 жыл бұрын
Doing those painful ass tests and coming home to crystal clear. Pretty much balances things out. Good episode
@prepperjackcorn623
6 жыл бұрын
I honestly believe that Rose did love Pearl but wasn't in love with her as Pearl was with her and didn't know the difference between loving someone and being in love until she met Greg. In the episode "We Need To Talk", Greg tries to "fuse" with Rose and that's the moment when she learns about being in love for the first time. And as I think about it more, they did"fuse" as Garnet confirmed at the end of the episode, I believe that Steven is their fusion as Garnet is the fusion of Ruby and Saphire.
@yourlocalnoob4938
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like Rose/Pink never stopped loving pearl romantically. Not for a second. I think either she didn't understand monogomy and Pearl was afraid to say anything in fear of the person Rose/Pink choses not being her, or that Rose/Pink just figured the human would die soon enough and then she'd have all of eternity to make it up to Pearl. And maybe Pearl didn't say anything because of how short a human lifespan was, and she was sure whoever Rose/Pink dated would be insignificant in the long run, so she should just grin and bear it. No matter the reason Rose/Pink got away with being with other people, though, I'm certain they were deeply in love. Both of them.
@CorinneStephens
6 жыл бұрын
Everyone's basically saying she loved her as a friend, but I disagree. However, I *do* agree that, while Rose did love Pearl, just not in the way Pearl loved Rose. Here's my take; Rose loved Pearl like a pet. Like a favorite toy. At no point did she ever feel romantic towards her- just more of an "I like this one, I wanna keep it" kind of love. Because ultimately, even though Rose *did* love Pearl, it wasn't the kind of love that would stop her from messing around with human men, and it wouldn't stop her from eventually giving up her form to become Steven. If she loved her in the way Pearl did, I don't think Greg (and consequently Steven) would have ever even entered the picture. But he *did*. She just found a shinier new favorite toy.
@londonchavers7289
6 жыл бұрын
Here's what I think think.of her as a toy no I don't wanting that's the case she did not think.of her as a toy but didn't love her as that she may have been a diamond but she didn't want to be and as for Greg he challenged her and that's how she knew what love was
@cedricgiyo9666
6 жыл бұрын
I was going to say no. She loves her obsessions more. Sorry pearl baby
@lizardy2867
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think using "Rose's" lines from "Rose's Scabbard" is very accurate, considering how it's coming from Pearl's perspective. Whereas with "A Single Pale Rose" it's an actual event, and it's unfiltered because of pearl taking steven inside her gem.
@lassebirkhenriksen
6 жыл бұрын
Well.. you dont see Yellow or Blue loving there pearls. They may just have a close realationship. But as a servant to her master
@Champsr0ck2247
6 жыл бұрын
It's weirder when you realize that Pearl _cannot_ disobey her master's orders. This begs the question: Did Pearl ever have free will?
@amitks862
6 жыл бұрын
Champsr0ck2247 The crewinverse confirmed that unless a diamond makes a direct order (“I order you” stuff like that) that pearls have free will
@germyforev4495
6 жыл бұрын
But how far does that go? Pearls are made to adore, love and care about there master above all else. To enjoy and want to serve there whims. A new slave needs to be ordered, a broken slave obeys without commands.
@lynx105
2 жыл бұрын
Mainly, why rose probably disappeared.
@Hulk1566
6 жыл бұрын
It does bother me that Rose didn't consider other peoples emotions which led to so many heartbreaks just like she doesn't think the Diamonds cared about her.
@popburnsy3207
6 жыл бұрын
Level: OP on some level, I think she may have thought she didn't deserve to be loved because she got all those Crystal Gems coorrupted too
@ADAJ342
6 жыл бұрын
I mean look at the conversations rose had with the other Diamonds. They cared,but did not show it.
@popburnsy3207
6 жыл бұрын
Adrián Alonso Yeah, they just wanted to destroy a planet full of life, but they sorta cared about their sister, so it all evens out...
@dexdrako
6 жыл бұрын
i don't get this view, it really disregards a lot of what the show tells us
@sadlobster1
6 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing once she met Greg. Rose/Pink may have changed her behavior...at least, a little
@laurabbb1506
6 жыл бұрын
Pearl: the most friendzoned character in all of TV history.
@JustThatLauren
6 жыл бұрын
Ew
@doraemonsirobotkucing6201
6 жыл бұрын
lmao
@CainWuzHere
5 жыл бұрын
*Friendzoned*
@fnaffangirl123
4 жыл бұрын
Lol I feel like marinette is the most friendzoned character but pearl is definitely up there
@brownimposter2601
4 жыл бұрын
JustThatLauren what. Ew?
@toetotipthatsabart5048
6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Rose Diamond actually loved Pearl. She loved the idea of a liberated Pearl. I don’t think she has loved anything other than ideas, the idea of having a colony, the idea of making her colony safe instead, the idea of accepting off colors and rejects, the idea of relinquishing ownership of a Pearl, the idea of having a child. Rose never loved anyone, she loved ideas. I don’t even think she loved Greg, not in a way that we think. She loved the idea of Greg, we saw that she fell in love instantly because of a dorky rockstar human. She didn’t fall in love with the pitfalls of Greg, with the failures and the panicked times. She fell in love with ideas. And that’s her ultimate flaw.
@abi-fs5jt
6 жыл бұрын
Toe to Tip That's a Bart damn!! that’s the tea
@polakgaughan
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah i hear you, i dont think she was capable of empathy: no matter how much she loved people and things, she loved them like objects and didnt experience them as having agency or autonomy, or feel a desire to cater to their needs - like a narcissist really.
@genuineinterest
6 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. Damn
@londonchavers7289
6 жыл бұрын
I think she di love Greg stated she felt compelled to tell me everything thing's she wouldn't tell anyone and she didn't treat him like he and also she even had some amp that forwards the d others rose states your life is short and you have dreams i won't let you give up on everything you want
@krack-a-lacker
6 жыл бұрын
from the most recent episode,we find out pink's other ability is to share empathy so i do believe pd is capable of feeling that.
@hangmingzhang5067
6 жыл бұрын
"my diamond" is a sign of respect and loyalty not love, "my pearl" also doesn't have the meaning of love. I think it was more like Pearl mistaking Pink's respect to her as love since she is the only one referred to as "my pearl", that she thought herself special. I might even go a step further that because pearls are programmed to be servants, that pearl thought that the only way Pink respected her enough to call her "my pearl" is because Pink is infatuated by her, and this was never said by Pink, and she is either oblivious to this or she just didn't want to break Pearl's heart.
@weirdo1836
5 жыл бұрын
True
@laurenmungaray3912
4 жыл бұрын
That's why she's so conceited lol. Her diamond said " My Pearl" to her. I think Rose just saw her as a friend.
@artemisia457
6 жыл бұрын
I think that feelings come and go, change and transform. I wouldn't undermine PD's affection for Pearl only because it turned from romance to close friendship. She did care for Pearl but her feelings changed overtime and she fell for Greg. These things happen and it's no one's fault. We don't know if PD and Pearl had a conversation about it. While I feel for Pearl (I have a crush on my best friend, too), I can't find it in me to blame PD for things beyond her control. You can't decide who you fall in love with.
@helicopterus1934
6 жыл бұрын
Love takes time, it’s not a fleeting feeling, it’s a commitment to each other. Garnet spoke about it very clearly in the show. Pearl was committed to PD. PD, however, wasn’t too mindful. There is no excuse for Rose’s actions. Besides, she dated humans before multiple times, but never truly cared about them. What I think about her choosing to give up her life to give birth to Steven is that in Greg she saw the qualities she herself wanted to have. The ability to truly love, to change, to invent yourself. It wasn’t human love, it was love for human spirit, an almost fetishizing adoration.
@ej73223
6 жыл бұрын
But what about all the humans she had relationships with for thousands of years? Pearl was always an afterthought to her after the war.
@artemisia457
6 жыл бұрын
Love is different to everyone. Pearl was aware of PD's various dates and she said she's okay with it because she knew these people don't matter. She knew Pink Diamond's feelings were strong. It was PD's affection for Greg that changed everything. Garnet was right love is about commitment and PD and Pearl, while having one-sidedly open relationship, were committed to one another. Again, PD wasn't going behind Pearl's back - Pearl knew everything and consented to this kind of a relationship.
@ej73223
6 жыл бұрын
CosmicSong pearl was SUPER not okay with roses other relationships my dude where you been at
@artemisia457
6 жыл бұрын
"I was fine With a man Coming to our lives Now and again. I was fine Cause I knew That they didn't really matter." - "It's Over, Isn't It?", Pearl. Besides in recent episode, Pearl's Pearl admits that it's not even Greg or pregnancy that bother her. It was permanent loss of Rose/Pink Diamond that made her cry. Greg is just a human. He'll die in a blink of an eye while the Gems are timeless, nearly immortal beings. Pink Diamond would be back to Pearl's side in no time at all. I'd even dare to say that he was another passing fancy, only slightly more important than other humans Pink Diamond was seeing before.
@miladysenior1264
6 жыл бұрын
PD made the most rock solid friendzone around Pearl
@Dave102693
6 жыл бұрын
Ded! 💀💀💀💀👻👻👻👻
@lillydoessomething3278
6 жыл бұрын
I'm done. lol
@j3891
6 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHAHAH i love you😂😂😂
@etona6147
6 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha rock cuz they're gems ok I'll see myself out 😂
@Lupiterz
6 жыл бұрын
I don't believe Rose had any ill will toward anybody. But I believe all of her acts were ultimately self-serving, as she is portrayed to be childish and does not understand or does not care about the weight of her actions.
@NNightmareWelcomeEnjoy
6 жыл бұрын
The Diamonds should have paid more attention to her. This whole thing is kind of like how Gowasu was a terrible teacher and Zamasu went to do his whole Zero Mortal Plan.
@Lupiterz
6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree on that. If anyone's at fault here, it's still yellow and blue but it's not likely that there's any malice at all, literally all just misunderstanding.
@sakuraogami6885
6 жыл бұрын
NNightmare03 Well, *cough* That actually makes sense.
@etona6147
6 жыл бұрын
Lightningwing Skye Yeah she didnt seem to fully understand what she was doing but I think she mustve felt somewhat guilty when both her court gems and the rest of the crystal gems were corrupted, that's why she dedicated most of her time to finding and to bubbling each one of them. Rose didnt learn though, she still made another selfish decision to have a kid and leave her unfinished business of bringing peace to all the corrupted gems to the crystal gems and Steven. Or maybe Steven was right in the episode Storm in the room when he said that Rose just made him so that she could run away from the mess she made. I hope its not the later tho this could just make her look even worse to her son.
@yicel486
5 жыл бұрын
agreed 👏😔
@Godzillawolf1
6 жыл бұрын
One thing that I think does apply here, in addition to what was said already, Gems don't really have a concept of marriage, or even romantic relationships, at least as a species. We kinda see this in the Zoo: Gems know humans form couples and it's necessary for reproduction, but they don't seem to have much understanding of it. Gems don't NEED romance on a physical level, as they reproduce asexually, but while they do need love emotionally like anyone, it's simply not part of their culture. Gems are very structured and while how same Gem fusion is allowed, how Homeworld feels about same Gem romances isn't really clear. So individuals DEVELOP a concept of Romance, but as a civilization, they simply don't, and even those individuals sometimes have completely different definitions of it. Take Garnet and Fluorite for instance: Garnet explicitly says she wants to stay a two Gem couple, but Fluorite is a six Gem relationship, and fully willing to add more if it's the right one. So what might have happened is, Rose may simply have had a different acquired definition of romance than Pearl does and saw no problem with having Pearl AND Greg, while Pearl saw it as 'me or Greg'. We get hints of this, since Pearl outright said Greg isn't the first human Rose fell in love with, but the first who she came to love to that degree. Now yes, she did decide to have Steven with Greg and sacrifice herself, but it may have been that Rose simply had a different definition of things than Pearl does. Gems having to LEARN romantic relationships in the first place kinda complicates things.
@gabrielabarbosa8827
6 жыл бұрын
Godzillawolf1 best comment ever
@kellabdjfoo
3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielabarbosa8827 you can say that again
@cristinaramos6127
6 жыл бұрын
She loved her....AS A FRIEND!
@kerkounosil115
6 жыл бұрын
Fandom Trash fuck noo
@kerkounosil115
6 жыл бұрын
She love her
@lucasmartinez5703
6 жыл бұрын
According to Word of God, it's apparently more complicated then that. Later episodes will probably clear this up.
@samyen3210
6 жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@wills5945
6 жыл бұрын
Fandom Trash just gals being pals.
@moonchild9688
6 жыл бұрын
I think she did truly love pearl but as like a close friend
@Dave102693
6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@popburnsy3207
6 жыл бұрын
Or a sister
@simpayshenaides
6 жыл бұрын
She doesn't meant to love her as lover , it was her pearl who is more loyal, because it was her servant
@Michimich97
6 жыл бұрын
I think she really did love her, but not in a romantic way. The thing is that we don't really know if Pink was aware of this or if Pearl ever confesses her feelings.
@Cocoeskoko
6 жыл бұрын
Random realization. The colors of Lars and Lion match pink diamond so that was another hint that Rose was PD. Dark pink skin/fur but lighter pink hair/mane. Just random comment lol
@bigbitch584
6 жыл бұрын
Space Dad Seven that was thought of ages ago. Why are you so slow lol
@bigbitch584
6 жыл бұрын
Grizzly Axolotl Lars’s didn’t change
@Cocoeskoko
6 жыл бұрын
OT-C Watch the episode, Lars LITERALLY changes color. And the fact that Rose was revealed as Pink Diamond and he was shocked doesn't mean he figured it out early. Calmeth downeth
@Cocoeskoko
6 жыл бұрын
Also if you meant Lar's hair texture, nah that didn't change but his appearance itself did lol sorry for misunderstanding
@Cloud-zb8lw
6 жыл бұрын
Greg: I have sword and I'm not afraid to use it on YD.
@winterwoods2625
6 жыл бұрын
兵士Cloud *go bigger, go home*
@soul6733
6 жыл бұрын
Did you just....?
@jeffcee500
6 жыл бұрын
???
@mollz3704
6 жыл бұрын
You again??
@Cloud-zb8lw
6 жыл бұрын
Soul6 Yes.
@u877___y
6 жыл бұрын
I like to believe that Rose was something of a benevolent sociopath: she's incapable of truly feeling love. She wants to love people like Greg, but can't feel anything deeper than a shallow imitation. Maybe that's why she chose suicide by birth: so she could use Steven as a vessel through which she can experience love. Edit: Oh my god I don't remember typing this wtf, this comment was literally copied and pasted from a person who wanted to spread the word and I just did them a favor, I would never say anything like this.
@arnor398
5 жыл бұрын
what being asexual have to do with this? maybe you mean "aromantic"
@u877___y
4 жыл бұрын
@Liza Johnson I want to thank you for bringing me back to this comment after 2 years, irrelevant but I am frankly surprised I posted this??
@digimonalvatrax2738
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think she just wanted to treat Pearl better than her former pearl
@SuperUniverse
6 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling Pearl first belonged to white . Then was given to Pink :)
@monica8499
6 жыл бұрын
Or a gift from all the diamonds
@user-yo2ku4uv4k
6 жыл бұрын
It makes sense, since her gen is on her forehead and her skin is light, just like white diamond, but she was defective and was given to Pink instead
@benrisalandpastel
6 жыл бұрын
I think that she belonged to all and was given to Pink
@violeteatsstars
6 жыл бұрын
Yesssssss
@speedpaintnasla4335
5 жыл бұрын
A switcheroo🤔
@stitch0blue
6 жыл бұрын
our pearl seems more like a teacher. Rose seemed like she really did respect pearl(even as a teacher) and it could have been easily misinterpreted as love. What if pearl was made to teach pink how to be more mature and how to be a leader? That's why our pearl is so smart and tends to ask more questions.
@astolat2262
2 жыл бұрын
Tf are you talking about
@lupper
6 жыл бұрын
in a relatively old interview with rebecca sugar, the interviewer asked her something about pearl’s unrequited love for rose. rebecca’s only response was “i wouldn’t necessarily call it unrequited” so i mean, somethin was goin on at least. (i honestly can’t remember who was interviewing her or where the interview is, i just remember listening to it)
@umiiarose7614
6 жыл бұрын
I feel like rose did love pearl but pearl was really easy for rose to take advantage of.
@skysuniverse4587
6 жыл бұрын
I think Rose valued Pearl but never took it romantically like Pearl did. In "A Single Pale Rose", Pearl wears the hibiscus on her right ear. In Hawaii, wearing a hibiscus on the right ear means that a woman is single/available, while wearing it on the left means that she is married or in a relationship.
@tater4442
6 жыл бұрын
"Isn't it funny how, the people we like, find us fit for friendship, but out of shape for dating"
@taliemccarroll2079
6 жыл бұрын
I think PD did love Pearl, but when she met Greg, she had lost her feelings for pearl and gave them to Greg.
@taliemccarroll2079
6 жыл бұрын
Cometa Blanco I mean that’s your opinion
@taliemccarroll2079
6 жыл бұрын
Cometa Blanco Again, maybe they didn’t know how to express romantic feelings before earth, so they never did anything about it.. Like I said, it’s not a fact, so therefore it’s probably an opinion.
@londonchavers7289
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was cheating because I don't think pearl ever told her how she really felt and she said she was fine with the men that would come in to roses life because she knew they don't matter so her and rose could still be friends you could say
@davidford3115
6 жыл бұрын
While I think Rose/Pink was fond of and appreciated Pearl, I don't think it was romantic love. I think it was more the affection one has for a comrade in arms and a confidant. Pearl's affection for Rose/Pink on the other hand is more that of a fanatic/zealot/sycophant due to her preprograming as a loyal servant. Now maybe over time on Earth that changed, but the fact that she still has not moved on shows a selfishness, immaturity, and infatuation rather than a mature caring love. Maybe I am being harsh, but true love is putting the wellbeing and happiness of the other above your own feelings and desires. And I do agree that Pearl's conversation with Rose in "Rose's Scabbard" was before the events she showed in "A Single Pale Rose".
@aguardianangel981
6 жыл бұрын
I think its unfair to call Pearl's affection towards Rose childish and selfish. We need to see the circumstances of her situation. She loved Rose for thousand of years and they went throu a lot together. its also possible that She also dind't understand how an immortal creature could choose someone who could love them just for a few years over someone who could litterally give them eternity. When Rose got pregnant, Pearl might have felt like Rose would prefer to die than to be with her even just as a friend. All of this hit Pearl hard and I don't think its fair to call her selfish for not getting over all that in a snap of the finger
@davidford3115
6 жыл бұрын
You missed the last line "love is putting the wellbeing and happiness of the other above your own". Has Pearl shown that? Hers is classic unrequited love. And while Victorian era ideals depict it as honorable and unselfish, that hardly makes it healthy. Indeed, the obsessiveness of it prevents one from coming into their own and developing any other relationship that could be more. Being able to let go for the happiness of Rose is something Pearl still has not entirely done. And that is holding her back.
@sakuraogami6885
6 жыл бұрын
David Ford Nah. You’re being really harsh and ridiculous.
@samimay05
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think pearls in love with Rose/ PD but I think Rose either doesn't know or doesn't care. I definitely think Rose sees her as more of a servant
@davidford3115
6 жыл бұрын
Goku Black, Got evidence that refutes my scenario or a logical argument that better fits the data? You have failed to debate me with anything more than an emotional and reflexive response.
@M.W.K6996
6 жыл бұрын
Care about Pearl? I'm sure. But actually love...I don't think so. Pearl is supposed to be the one that doesn't belong to anyone. But that's a lie.
@baraxor
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think that Pink loved Pearl, not in the way Pearl did for Pink, or how Ruby and Sapphire do each other. However, I believe that it's off the mark to contend that Pink only liked Pearl for what she gave her, only thought her useful as a tool. I believe that Pink truly treasured Pearl and recognized her worth, was glad for her friendship and loyalty, and tried to help her with her fears and insecurities...BUT, Pink didn't regard Pearl as an equal partner, was well aware of her shortcomings, and unquestionably felt that she could not share all her secrets with her Pearl. Greg is probably the first entity Pink felt she could treat with on roughly equal terms.
@genuineinterest
6 жыл бұрын
I agree. At the same time, though, remember that (from what we know as of right now) she never told Greg any of her past history and it's very likely he never knew she was Pink Diamond. Referring to the episode where Steven wants to know more about his mom but Greg tells him he never pushed her to share her past, because it was in the past. And she never did. I feel like Rose just drove herself into a corner with all her secrets but she never found anyone she thought she could confide everything in. Pearl knew her past, and some things like the armoury. Greg knew much of her present. It's questionable if anyone at all knew about the lions.
@baraxor
6 жыл бұрын
Nazish Talati When asked by his son whether Rose talked to him about Pink Diamond, Greg was evasive. He didn't say "yes", or "no", or "who?" What Greg did say that there were things that Rose didn't like to talk about, and that he never pressed her...and follows this by saying that he felt that Rose wanted to confess everything to him. So, I'd say that it's slightly better than 50-50 that Rose Quartz did tell Greg about her original identity, secure in the knowledge that he wouldn't reveal anything to the others, plus that "Pink Diamond" is merely a couple of words to him, unlike to the Crystal Gems.
@oliviamacarthur18
6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how Peridot is gonna react. Will her Diamond adoration return and will focus on Stephen more in that way? At least for an episode...
@Champsr0ck2247
6 жыл бұрын
Olivia Mac Arthur Would be funny if she address Steven as "My Steven"
@Coolsomeone234
6 жыл бұрын
Champsr0ck2247 Lol
@deannamccrimmon6422
6 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s Steven
@rainhardravenclaw809
6 жыл бұрын
Great idea ! That would be a great episode ! Peridot adoring steven and act like a slave to him until in the end he tells her how he thinks of the diamond-authority and that he doesn't want this
@bigbitch584
6 жыл бұрын
Olivia Mac Arthur Steven...not Stephen
@forestrose244
6 жыл бұрын
Props for that one girl who said she was right even when people called her stupid. I dont know who you are but I'm so glad you were right.
@jadziajan
6 жыл бұрын
Rose might have jsut loved Pearl platonically. She looked up to her or cared for her, but had no romantic feelings for her. Also, "my Pearl" not being proof of ownership kind of helps proving that Pearl isn't Pink Diamond's pearl, which I strongly believe.
@thewoollyviking5928
6 жыл бұрын
I know people are still pretty much burning Rose in effigy since the reveal, but I can say with absolute confidence that YES, Rose loved Pearl. They clearly wanted different things from the relationship (Rose wanted to open up and be with humans too, Pearl wanted her all to herself) but that doesn't make either person bad. And many people are joking now that she can't be a "renegade Pearl" since she was still fighting alongside her diamond, but she didn't join her because she had to, but because she WANTED to. And keep in mind all the times Pearl interacts with homeworld gems, they point out how much more assertive our Pearl is. Behavior that was ecouraged by Rose. You guys can say what you want, I still don't think Rose is a bad person.
@germyforev4495
6 жыл бұрын
IT doesn't matter what pearl wanted or what she thought. Any pearl would have followed there diamond head first into a rebellion without being told. Pearls are made to serve and care for there masters above all else. Of course she's more assertive thats what her diamond wanted. Regardless of what name or face Pink wore she was still a diamond and her pearl was still justing serving her wishes. I have zero doubt homeworld would find her innocent as she was simply serving her masters will.
@thewoollyviking5928
6 жыл бұрын
Then why did Rose wait for the two to carry out her plan until Pearl agreed to go through with it? That shows that Rose is at least trying to encourage Pearl to make her own decisions, and I doubt that Homeworld under any circumstance would tolerate a Pearl that acted like OUR Pearl. Remember "Sworn to the Sword"? How Pearl's argument with Steven and Connie was rather explicitly reminding her of an earlier conversation with Rose? Where evidently Rose was trying to tell Pearl that she didn't have to keep sacrificing herself over and over and that she was important too? Yes, Pearls are made to be loyal, but Rose didn't want that to be why Pearl stayed with her. Or how about when Steven was angry with Peridot for still being loyal to Yellow Diamond, and Amethyst was making comments about making Peridot changer her mind, and Steven said "I don't want to make her think like I do, she should just know". Something to that effect. Rose couldn't help Pearl's nature, but she wanted to at least not make their relationship resort a toxic and slavish devotion.
@germyforev4495
6 жыл бұрын
Where does it say rose waited for pearl to be ready? Ive seen nothing to suggest that rose put off her plans specifically for pearls benefit. Rose wanted rose to stop needlessly risking her life? Good for you rose! You lied to literally everyone at several points throughout the series including pearl but at least you were a decent person once in your life! I wasn't even talking about rose, I was addressing the fact Pearl was never free. That there has never been a renegade pearl, the pearl that belonged to no-one is a lie, a fabrication because she never ceased serving her diamonds.
@thewoollyviking5928
6 жыл бұрын
How about the conversation in Rose's Scabbard? Where she gave Pearl the choice to either stay with her or go back to Homeworld? Or during their conversation in the palanquin, where Rose reminded them why they were; “If this is really my world, I want to give it to the Crystal Gems, I want to live here with human being, I want to live here with you." And they only did this AFTER Pearl said yes. She didn't belong to Rose, but she still loved her, that's why she was by her side all these years.
@germyforev4495
6 жыл бұрын
A meaningless choice, any pearl would have done the same. A master giving a broken slave a choice is no choice at all, she could never say no. She belonged to rose in all but name. She would never say no, she is programmed to love and serve her diamond. To do anything in her power to please her. It is a love programmed into her by homeworld, find me one instance of pearl fighting rose on a decision of her disobeying orders and Ill take it back.
@lucy-bs9cx
6 жыл бұрын
Wait I JUST FOUND SOME FORESHOWDOING TO ROSE BEING PINK DIAMOND In the sea spire episode She said to Steven THIS PLACE IS TOUR HERITAGE as in hey Steven you own this spire
@laurellee1435
6 жыл бұрын
I had kinda assumed that Rose was somewhat poly and that she loved lots of people intimately in her own way but that due to her narcissism and lack of connection with people and easily distracted and independent personality and various other issues is not a very healthy lover, discards people easily, forgets about other people’s feelings etc. I think with Greg she was probably more monogamous but more importantly she learned how to respect someone and take their feelings into consideration more. I don’t think she ever fully got over her flaws I’m not sure that gems on homeworld have actual romantic relationships. They’re non sexual and fuse for practical reasons. They can have very intimate relationships with their own kind and court without labels. Family, friendship and flirtatious love all intertwined... Tbh as someone poly with adhd and the relationship issues that come with that such as obsession with someone quickly and then getting easily distracted by something and running away when something gets difficult to do something new, I relate closely to Rose. If there wasn’t a clear framework and communication about what people typically want and respect from relationships I’m sure I’d hurt people pretty badly
@laurenmungaray3912
4 жыл бұрын
Pearl and her was never in a relationship! 🙄 Plus, you're just assuming things but whatever it's your opinion. I can't change your mind.
@a2-2b-9s
6 жыл бұрын
*Did Pink Diamond love Pearl?* Me: YES PLEASE
@pepsdeps
6 жыл бұрын
*People before hearing Rebecca Sugar say the "My" thing:* Rose calls her her pearl, so she must own her. *People after hearing Rebecca Sugar say the "My" thing:* This is heavy, Rose respects pearl, and it was obvious from the start
@UndernetBroker
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe like a best friend sure, anymore than that and I'd have to question it a bit.
@Champsr0ck2247
6 жыл бұрын
Nah, Rose always dated humans while Pearl was around. They just died.
@thehopesystem3795
6 жыл бұрын
I see your toxic monogomy and raise you some love is infinite and not limited to one person at a time.
@Champsr0ck2247
6 жыл бұрын
Miranda Cary That's fair, but I do feel that parties should share the same amount of love and care for all of their partners, or at least try to. Pink Diamond reveal notwithstanding, it feels like Pearl was just a rebound until another human impressed Rose. The only difference is that Greg challenged Rose and that's why she......stops dating Pearl?
@londonchavers7289
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think she get dated pearl Mandy or had suspicious that she liked her but when she started to date pearl never said anything which he a sign of oh she doesn't like me
@shanec3098
6 жыл бұрын
I think that in Rose's Scabbard they were speaking of the revolution to try and drive the other diamonds away from the planet and agree to leave the life alone. Whereas in A Single Pale Rose it was about staging the shattering as a last resort. Pearl was reluctant because she *did* have to stab the love of her life, but it was the only way to stop the diamonds.
@Izzy-jp8rm
6 жыл бұрын
It’s most likely she was using her tbh , pearl only loves rose- I mean pink, that much because it’s in her “ code “
@potatofairy8535
6 жыл бұрын
Goodness, Rose being Pink has opened up so many questions and possibilities that RoundTable hasn't even made a video on KO's newest battle with Shadowy Figure! Jesus, it's almost like Rose foreshadowed the fandom making theories when she said in the episode Lion Straight to Video *This world is filled with so many possibilities*.
@nykyk3206
6 жыл бұрын
Pink Diamond was a child Diamond. Any actions that were taken by her fall on her parents, the diamonds that made her. A good parent would have never given PD a colony. She was young and immature. Children whine all the time. You don't give into their demands. And this whole show is based on what a child would do because of negligent parenting. People call PD a thot. Mind you, she could live for thousands of years while humans average a lifespan of 70 years. She was bound to date multiple men, because theoretically, she would have lived forever. And, on top of that, she wasnt taught how to have or maintain a faithful relationship. She had parents who let her do whatever she wanted with no discipline. Its BD and YD's fault. Lastly, the whole point of the war was for gems to be free of their given purpose by their superiors. I think that PD did know that Pearl loved her, but because Pearl was made for her, this is why PD stressed that they would be free of their roles and they could live the lives they wanted. Pearl saw that PD's interest was in male humans. She never stood a chance but she decided to stay and hope there could be a "them" eventually. PD can't be blamed for the decisions that Pearl decided to make. That's why she made it a point to tell Pearl that she never had to do anything just because PD/Rose was doing it. PD stood for freedom of gems from their purpose. She tried to free Pearl from the obligation Pearls were made to have for their Diamonds. Pearl was just too naive in love to understand the true meaning of the rebellion. Done.
@krystalfontenot9508
6 жыл бұрын
NYKYK gems are grown when they pop out and that whiny bratty attitude is her personality. Why would blame parents for for children actions ? That why people are messed up mommy and daddy taking blame and Consequences for their kids bad choices. Unless someone came from really shity life like mom hooking for crack or beating to near death every day , it’s not parent fault. Pd was a princess with a caring bd and a yd who probably didn’t show it as much .
@nykyk3206
6 жыл бұрын
Krystal Fontenot Spoiled children can't be raised under good parents. Spoiled children come from parents that do not discipline their children. YD and BD gave PD anything she wanted just because she whined and it was annoying to them. What do you expect would happen? Giving her the Earth does not teach her how to be a good leader. It just shut her up from annoying them. Is that what a good parent does?
@alexthomas6028
6 жыл бұрын
But BD and YD aren't PD's parents. They (for now) seem to be her older sisters. And as any(and many) older siblings do, when your younger sibling is annoying you for something, you will (depending on what it is) give them it just to shut them up. And you gotta remember, gems don't come out as children. Very few had child like personalities and even then they were mostly Crystal gems. Gems don't raise children, they pop out of the ground fully grown and knowing what to do. We don't know how the Diamonds are created, why they're created, ir why PD came out...off. We don't even know what WD looks like or even does. Shit, for all we know, she may not even exist and is just some Goddess the Gems worship or something. We don't know. We do not have all the answers and there are large pieces of PD's past still missing.
@krystalfontenot9508
6 жыл бұрын
NYKYK you know sometimes monster are just born , some of most Infamous killers came from very good homes lol. Even if a parent raises a brat , society can teach them being spoiled is a not good thing to be and life is never fair . Parents need to let their kids fall to a point to learn and help them up .
@laurenmungaray3912
4 жыл бұрын
She did get disciplined?? Y'know neglected rich kids act like that too. They act like that because that's the only time they pay attention to them.
@MrHodoAstartes
6 жыл бұрын
Rose/Pink clearly respected and valued Pearl, but she had no romantic feelings for her. Pearl was her companion and trusted servant, co-conspirator and knight. A sister in arms and beloved friend, but never a lover. Pearl was simply deluded all this time. Inflating her position in her own mind and never told otherwise. Why? For the same reason everything in the show happened. Because Pink Diamond could not stand a confrontation, could not ever just say no to the people she loved. She did everything and more to avoid having to face her peers with her convictions. She rather made excuses, started a war and even faked her own death just so she did not have to stand up to Yellow and Blue. The same way she has never told Pearl to move on, but just strung her along somehow, trying not to hurt her. And what suffering has come from that. I believe that this is the final big lection of SU. That it is better to be honest with your family, even if it hurts. Because the lies hurt more in the end.
@laurenmungaray3912
4 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@laurenmungaray3912
4 жыл бұрын
She was a people pleaser.
@laurenmungaray3912
4 жыл бұрын
I wish I can save this comment so I can read it over and over again!
@everythingalldwight4939
6 жыл бұрын
No she didn't. Before Greg she had no concept of love, and even then she has difficulty grasping the concept. She probably did respect her, but she didn't know how to love like Pearl did.
@longtail4711
6 жыл бұрын
I really cannot see Pink/Rose as a bad person who cared only about herself or unaware of how Pearl or the others felt about her. I think that's exactly why she decided to be with Greg and have Steven. I really do think Pink/Rose loved Pearl, and I think she never really stopped loving her. I think Pink/Rose realized that that Pearl would never stop acting like a pearl around her...meaning the relationship was never really as "real" as it was meant to be, and Pearl was never really free. I'm married, and I think if this was happening between me and my husband, I'd walk away from him too. Codependency is insidious and toxic, and Pearl deserved better. She deserved a chance to make a REAL relationship with someone of her choosing based on genuine feelings, not the remnants of slave mentality bound to someone she never had a real choice on being with. Pearl of course thinks it's ALL choice, she CHOSE Pink/Rose...but you really don't just forget about being a slave, especially when you are involved with your old master. Rose needed a change, Pearl needed a change, the Crystal Gems needed a change and a chance to stand on their own fused feet if they were ever to have any chance at defeating Homeworld. As long as Rose was there, they were never really living up to their potential because Rose was always their crutch. Steven was a perfect solution for all of them.
@nykyk3206
6 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Pearl still lived out her slave mentality, showing that she never understood the true meaning behind the rebellion. If she really did it because she truly "wanted" to, she would have never regretted it, even in the aftermath of the corruption. At the end of the day, she is still PD's Pearl. She has yet to be truly free. And that's how you know PD really did care for Pearl. PD wanted Pearl to be free.
@sakuraogami6885
6 жыл бұрын
What about interdependence?
@polakgaughan
6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, and think you have to bear in mind that gems are not like people in that they cannot adapt and change their nature, and that Pearl was made to serve and was bonded to serve PD eternally. Even if she was nominally/technically set free to do what she wanted with her life, her very nature predetermines her to want to take care of and cater to and to serve PD - that meant it couldnt ever be a healthy reciprocal balanced relationship.
@longtail4711
6 жыл бұрын
Goku Black -- Good question. Is it possible to have real interdependence with your old master and servant function? I don't think Pearl could do that. After the whole Sardonyx debacle, when Garnet and Pearl were being crushed, Pearl said "I'm just a pearl. I'm useless on my own." I think Pearl can be interdependent with Garnet and Amethyst, but I don't think that was possible for her to be with Rose.
@sakuraogami6885
6 жыл бұрын
longtail4711 Well remember Gems and Humans are different. Gems can’t easily just shake what they were made to do. It’s ingrained in them; probably forever. And that includes Pearl.
@carolinelutz397
6 жыл бұрын
In my mind, she loved her but not like pearl loved her, just like her bigest friend, her confident
@camsmith3123
6 жыл бұрын
I have to say it’s manipulation. Between pink Diamond charisma and the programming pearl has I can’t really see anything else. I mean diamonds can already rule through fear and discipline why not from what appears to be a caring nature. As for pearl I do believe pink was using her programming to sort of brain wash her. I still don’t believe we’ve seen how that conversations in a single pale rose or rose’s scabbard really went down since it was from a biased view. I don’t know they probably were. But when it comes from a character like pearl who was zeolot like tendencies I can’t be to sure.
@ChipNoir
6 жыл бұрын
I view Pink Diamond as sort of this...collosal child, albeit one that has an insane amount of power and influence. Think about how ill-adapted to human concepts Peridot was. Pink Diamond is going to have been the same, even if she took a shine to these concepts of love and friendship. But she's still this highly immature person at the time. So naturally, she's going to be self-interested in a way where she doesn't intentionally hurt people. Love like You is definetly Pink's theme. She learned a lot, to the point where I feel like Rose really became who she was in the end..and then Steven was her next step in evolution, realizing that she could give even more to the world by bringing Steven into it fresh, without any of the 'flaws' that Rose was never going to be able to break away from. It's selfish, but it makes sense. Steven has brought about so many changes that Rose never could as someone that could only change so much.
@Hessed3712
6 жыл бұрын
So Pearl is the stilted wife and Greg is the mistress. Man that sucks. 😞
@ChromosomeExcel
6 жыл бұрын
It was already explain the Rose aka Pink Diamond doesn't understand love etc, and thinks of it as nothing more than them being showered with praise and affections. Pearl has shown through flashbacks that Rose has mingled with a lot humans way back. It wasn't until Rose met Greg that they started to somewhat understand but thought of it as nothing more than complicated. Whether she understood love before they had steven is up to debate. Rose said everything is just an experience. Which really downplays the whole feelings thing. Rose just does what she wants and wants to experience everything humans do regardless of anyone's will being or feelings. Thinking about it now, that's pretty messed up. But then again rose never consider the consequences of their actions. Rose is like a spoiled brat that no one never said no to. They pretty much always got what they wanted and never considered the downsides
@Adrianandthrust
6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure what's going on is that White Diamond gave her Pearl (our Pearl) to Pink Diamond to help her with colonizing Earth and since White Diamond probably has higher authority, so does her Pearl.. so in a way even though Pearl is lower than Pink Diamond, I think Pink might respect her more than just any other Pearl. There could also be an appreciation besides hierarchy seeing that they created a more special relationship together.
@Shetasen
6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps she didn't love Pearl romantically like Ruby and Sapphire have, but based on their interactions I would be confident in believing that Rose, PD had a genuine respect and trust in Pearl, this it is a different kind of love and loyalty. There many kinds of love. In Greg she found romance and a level she could share her inner desires of being "human" with, because he was human. Whereas she could never get that sense of compassion and understanding with another Gem. pearl still avoids certain human traditions such as eating but will do so only with Steven. These habits are something Rose was intrigued about and could only experience with a human. But we also see them fusing which according to garnet, a stable fusion is based on mutual trust. Pd being willing to fuse with pearl shows that there is a mutual trust and love. And rainbow quartz behavior, you can tell there is synchrony between them.
@Z.n.A.r.20
6 жыл бұрын
I think that Pink Diamond loved Pearl as a friend because BD and YD always give lectures to PD about acting like a diamond , while pearl just acts like how pearls act sweetly with their diamonds . Also love your theories The Roundtable
@iyumiblue
6 жыл бұрын
no, she loved greg. it's very obvious she never loved pearl.
@m.l2694
6 жыл бұрын
Pearl. Got. Cucked.
@Frooti.loopz23
6 жыл бұрын
I think she did just not in the way Pearl would have wanted.
@mange2696
6 жыл бұрын
When Pink says my Pearl, Pearl may have been White Diamond's who's got a higher rank. But good theory! ^^
@freesha
6 жыл бұрын
Pearl loved the pink quartz rose diamond lady
@MommyOfZoeAndLiam
6 жыл бұрын
I really don't think Rose was aware that Pearl had romantic love for her. I think she loved Pearl as a friend, even a sister, but not a lover. I think Pearl was fine with the other humans because Rose never loved them more than Pearl. It was a romantic type of attraction, but never love. That was why Pearl was so jealous if Greg and so angry. Because she couldn't understand why Rose would love him enough to have a child and leave her. It's kind of like when a girl falls in love with a friend. They can go out and have fun, they might even date guys, but it means nothing, but then one dat the friend meets a guy and falls for him and suddenly you are not her most important love.....it can be hard.
@itchytastyurr
6 жыл бұрын
pd: my last or as a diamond- never speak of this again... pearl: xmx pd: also wait 5k yrs then dress as a clown and pelt your face with cream pie! pearl: wha? pd: i'm altering my final orders, prey i don't alter them further...
@krissaguirre8391
6 жыл бұрын
Pearl: My Diamond! Pink: Yes Pearl? Pegarle:i love you! Pink:I love you too! Your my best friend! *Pearl is friend zoned *
@kellharris2491
6 жыл бұрын
Pearl was literally made to be what pink wanted. Pink gave pearl her freedom but that programing was still there. I think pearl genuinely loved pink but it must be hard to have relationship because pearl almost has to do what pink wants. That's not a good basis for a relationship.
@ryankodura3477
6 жыл бұрын
I doubt they are going for the pink diamond is an absolute jerk, but it's still a legitimate reaction. I know I would hate her for it all.
@OneReallyGrumpyJill
6 жыл бұрын
1)I believe that comparing newer episodes to older is a bit bad because it is clear that they didn't age too well. 2)I think that Pink liked Pearl as a friend at best, maybe had a fleeting crush on her, but nothing more. It was already made very clear that Pink was not the best person and I bet that her feelings for Pearl were momentary at best.
@lovesinganddance32
6 жыл бұрын
Or it could be that rose called Pearl,"My Pearl "when they were starting the Revolution and she asked her to shatter her as pink diamond in the middle of the
@ayoimbisexual2107
6 жыл бұрын
What if they already poofed pink diamond and rose is covering it up and made it look like they did shatter pink diamond if this makes sense like it plz
@hibouwolf571
6 жыл бұрын
The conversation in Rose's Scabbard was not the same conversation that Pearl and "Rose" had right before "shattering" her.. Pearl states "Do you remember this place?" implying that THIS is where the conversation happened. This did not happen inside of Pink's palanquin. I imagine this conversation being held at the beginning of the rebellion. Pink was informing Pearl of her plans to rebel, but wanted to give her a chance to go back to homeworld before she got in too deep. She speaks of the consequences of winning and losing, she's talking about starting the rebellion. She was probably introducing Pearl to "Rose Quartz" for the first time. Notice how apprehensive Pink looks when talking to Pearl, and how relieved she seems that Pearl enthusiastically accepts her. The conversation in the palanquin however happened nearer to the end of the rebellion. They were already committed to the idea of rebelling. "Rose" had been a recognized threat for years before Pink was "shattered." Pearl knew about and was part of Pink's secret rebellion the whole time. In this conversation they are discussing Pink's radical tactic of faking her own death, not the pros and cons of Pearl joining the rebellion. To me it seemed like they had already been discussing this plan for a while. Pearl did seem hesitant to go through with the plan, but I don't think it's because she had only just been introduced to it. I think she was hesitant because of her programming telling her to be loyal to and never turn on her diamond. She was enthusiastic to support Pink in the rebellion, but the idea of attacking your diamond is so drastically opposite of a pearl's designed purpose.
@larsofthestars6205
6 жыл бұрын
Wow man, Just laying that answer as clear as possible.. If Pearl were here she would- *insert Pearl talking off her saltiness BOI*
@stray_editori
6 жыл бұрын
I didn't even realize that Diamonds always only called their pearls "Pearl", never "My Pearl"; so this def showed me something i didn't realize before.
@kridocaign5722
6 жыл бұрын
From what I've seen, I think Rose did love Pearl, but not in the way Pearl loved Rose. The idea that Rose was manipulating Pearl to do her bidding just doesn't make any sense. As we have seen, Pearl is literally incapable of going against anything her Diamond ordered of her. The only reason to she would even have to consider that sort of manipulation would be if she wanted Pearl to be happy with what she had to do. In other words, the only conceivable way Rose could have been manipulating Pearl would be by trying to make Pearl happy about what was going to happen. Meaning that Rose must, at the very least, care about Pearl's feelings. That means a lot, considering how Rose was so extraordinarily bad at considering the feelings of others. Further, I think Pearl was one of the reasons Rose decided to pick Greg and give up her form. It's like this: Pearl was completely devoted to Rose because she was made that way. She didn't love Rose for Rose, she loved her because she was supposed to love her. Pearl had no agency in this. She had no choice. It wouldn't matter if Rose was a saint or a horrible monster, Pearl would still love her. It likely wouldn't matter if Rose had devoted her life explicitly to making Pearl miserable; as long as Rose existed, even as a memory, Pearl would love her. But Rose loved to see things change and grow. Rose wanted Pearl to be free. I think that Rose realized that her own existence was holding Pearl back. If Rose were to be gone forever, then Pearl's life could no longer be in an eternal orbit around her. With Rose gone, Pearl would get the freedom Rose wanted her to have. Loving somebody is wanting what's best for them, even when what's best for them doesn't include you. She was right. Look at Pearl's character arc. It's heavily implied that Pearl was essentially static from the time the war ended to the time Rose met Greg. That's, what, 5,000 years? Her outfit - which has been established as a gem's outward expression of their identity - is the same in the conversation leading up to the fake assassination as it was when she was crying over Rose's impending demise. In the bit less than a decade and a half since Rose's passing she has undergone a remarkable growth and improvement. In fact, the period of greatest growth came when Steven started to come into his own, and Pearl started coming to terms with Steven being his own person. It wasn't pleasant, but her identity isn't a function of somebody else. I can't say how big a factor what was best for Pearl was in Rose's decision, but I think we can reasonably conclude it was one of the motivating factors.
@adorablush
6 жыл бұрын
"If I could begin to be, half of what you think of me... I could do about anything..." Guess that song was sung by Pink Diamond.
@ammaral-omairy4789
6 жыл бұрын
I don't know but the question here did pearl was realy owned by Pink diamond at first place? I just don't get it ... both Yellow and blue has pearls and each of them place their gem exactly the same place as their diamond I know we saw and we heard pearl say my Diamond But it's not evidence I think is the pearl we know have something to do with White Diamond That what i feel
@londonchavers7289
6 жыл бұрын
I know if she belonged to whitethen she never ordered pearl if it s not her pearl
@yaboijay6861
5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone notice how Pearl has different colors? Like most pearls have one color and maybe a darker/lighter color. But Pearl has Yellow,blue,pink, and white? Maybe Pearl used to be one serve all diamonds. Like a Super Pearl.
@astrolord4325
6 жыл бұрын
Pearl: All my hopes and dreams have died long long ago. Steven: How many years? Pearl: Idk, how old are you?
@jayd7273
6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this theory! My only issue is that the supposition of this argument is based on romantic love, versus pure kinship. I believe Rose felt more of a kinship to Pearl, versus anything romantic (where we all know Pearl was romantically invested in Rose/PD). To PD's credit, Pearl was never vocal about her feelings. Maybe I just sympathize with Rose more than most and just don't see any malicious intentions versus just causes and effects that were more than she could handle alone.
@wattsisnaim8111
6 жыл бұрын
Personally , I have always thought, and still think that flashback in Rose's Scabbard was at the very start of the war. Now that we know Pink Diamond and Rose Quartz are one and the same, I think this might be the first time Pink Diamond became Rose. This seems to be when she is first deciding to start her revolution, to form the Crystal Gems. At that point, it was a revolution of one, about to become an army of two, if Pearl agreed. Pearl was the first recruit into the Crystal Gems, and Pink Rose Diamond Quartz wanted Pearl to make the decision on her own, not just order her to join. Was this love? Yes. Was this romantic love? Maybe. There are many kinds of love, and it is easy to confuse and misinterpret them. Maybe Rose Pink was in love witb Pearl, or maybe she loved her, but wasn't in love with her, but Pearl thought she was. I think there was definitely some level of love there, but hard to say if the love Pearl had was the same as what Pink Rose had. Example , go read, yes read, The Little Mermaid by Hans Christian Anderson. The mermaid princess was in love with the prince, and he loved her... like a sister. (Disney made a few changes) It is possible this is what Rose Pink and Pearl's relationship was like. Or maybe they were both in love with each other. Personally , I lean towards the former.
@sammyleann587
6 жыл бұрын
I'm just really confused about the whole fusion thing now. Like how did Pink diamond still remain as rose quartz when she fuse into Rainbow Quartz or any other fusion, I mean wouldn't her gem go back to its original form.
@trolleyfan
6 жыл бұрын
You know, "just strung her along" seems...unlikely when you're talking about timespans as long as 5,000 years.
@savegalkissy
6 жыл бұрын
I feel like Rose wasn’t /in love/ with Pearl, and she probably shouldn’t/didn’t have reciprocated those feelings. She just thought of her as an equal, a close friend from what we’ve seen (even with Rainbow Quartz). It’s just that, perhaps in what could be considered Rose’s formative years, Pearl was the only person she had at all to feel close to. Rose was a bit naive and self centered, but I don’t feel like there was anything intentionally harmful about her actions. If she did love her however, she probably didn’t want to reciprocate for Pearl’s sake. As her former servant, Rose does have power over her even if she throws aside those societal expectations. While I do think Rose never thought through things, I do feel this would be the one issue she would’ve noticed, “yeah, hey, that’s probably a bad idea” in terms of entering a romantic relationship since, like you said, pearls are meant to love their diamonds. Also the fact that pearl is the only one who would see her as pink diamond, this putting that love into question as being apart of her programming and not genuine for who rose was
@JetblackJay
6 жыл бұрын
No she has a large amount of admiration because pearl gave her freedom from being a diamond but shes the type of person to do as she pleases
@samimay05
6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Pink implanted fake memories into Pearls head to convince her she was good?
@lonniegabbie
6 жыл бұрын
The Living Embodiment WEIRD! Don’t do that to me man
@avalonaiii7177
6 жыл бұрын
highly doubt it
@samimay05
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's true either. Imagine how crazy that episode would be tho!
@avalonaiii7177
6 жыл бұрын
i mean anything is possible in the series now that we know Rose is Pink D
@abbsett3732
6 жыл бұрын
Great video this is a difficult thing to ask because it's hard for me to think pink diamond is mature she seems really childish like she was just playing with everyone which is pretty messed up
@jajwritersblock
6 жыл бұрын
Remember in Full Disclosure when Pearl said "Uhhhh I don't know. I don't really understand your human relationships"? I think that applies to most gems. Maybe one of the underlying arcs of the this universe is that gem kind is evolving that capacity but is nowhere near there. To Pink it was like an exciting new toy, like a kid with a brand new driver's license. They definitely still need limits how when and where they can drive, and they don't get the cheap insurance.
@zero_enjoyer
6 жыл бұрын
I feel like rose friend zoned pearl XD and it left her heart broken.
@izzymcgee2527
6 жыл бұрын
I think the hologram flashback in Rose's Scabbard took place before Pink staged her rebellion.
@jajwritersblock
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Centuries before events of Single Pale Rose.
@adorablush
6 жыл бұрын
My first thought after watching a Single Pale Rose: Are Rose Quartz's fusions of Smokey Quartz and Rainbow Quartz actually Quartz at all? I took geology, so after some time, I settled on yes, because quarts are high on the Moh's scale and can come in any color like diamonds, BUT it was an interesting thought. How does this affect her fusions?
@lucasmartinez5703
6 жыл бұрын
She did love her. Just not as much as she would love Greg later. She genuinely fell for him because he challenged her and accepted her for who she was no matter what. I always got the impression that Pearl loved Pink D much more then Pink could ever reciprocate. That or she wasn't aware of the true depths of Pearl's love. It seems Pearl never came out and told Pink how she really felt, so Pink Diamond was always sort of in the dark. Pearl was content to just stay by her side.
@Solarsy
6 жыл бұрын
isn't rose still with them? HEAR ME OUT HERE I HEAR YOU TYPING THOSE REPLY'S! OK in an episode Garnet said that there bodies were just an illusion. so they ARE the gems not the bodies you see technically. so that means that rose aka pink diamond is still with them right? Steven has the gem, they ARE the gems, you just cant see the illusion of pinks body.
@nziom
6 жыл бұрын
She loved her as a friend plus she knows that pearl was programmed to obey/love her unlike humans
@ztslovebird
6 жыл бұрын
I think Rose loved Pearl as a pet, or a younger sibling. She cared about Pearl’s well-being, but didn’t see her as an equal or someone to take seriously. Pearl was made for Pink Diamond, programmed to love her & sacrifice everything for her well-being. Rose could never reciprocate Pearl’s feelings because she knew Pearl’s feelings weren’t real.
@EdwardSanchezProductions
6 жыл бұрын
Love is a powerful thing
@randypelow455
6 жыл бұрын
There are many forms of love so it is possible that pink did love pearl for the fact that pearl was kind to her.
@4569packers
6 жыл бұрын
Unrelated, but I enjoy the monarchy of the Earth. Pink diamond is the Queen Greg is the King Steven is the Prince.
@Endergirlz
6 жыл бұрын
Antonio Hernandez Wouldn’t Greg be a prince consort? Since the position of the king is above the position of the queen and as Pink Diamond is the ruler, she can’t have someone with a higher title.
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