Game dev here. They're avoiding the over justification effect by doing this. The whole point is to finish building your characters. But if that takes "too long," people get frustrated and leave. When they finish, they are satisfied and leave anyway. Guess which one causes players to come back? You dont want to rely on FOMO to much cause it causes burn out and loss of interest over long periods of time (see overjustification effect).
@VoidEnigma
2 күн бұрын
Ah, never thought of it that way. That definitely makes sense because why would I come back if my characters are still barely built.
@begginerm9339
2 күн бұрын
facts bro, when they see something new or an update they will 100% come back because they know they have built characters and if they get the new units they can build them quickly. maybe that might not leave again this time
@nvmage
2 күн бұрын
I see it the same as a "hardcore" player. I've learnt so well to minmax resources but WuWa destroys this habit. Currently I struggle to decide how to spend waveplates. Everything is maxed, even secondary resonators. Tacet fields give too much echoes and I have a low amount of upgrading materials and out of space. I'm confused. Nonetheless, I see it as an opportunity to build a healthier relationship with gacha gaming.
@Shindy117
2 күн бұрын
@@nvmage great way of looking at it!
@asteriskonline3494
2 күн бұрын
That is amazing dude. That makes a lot of sense.
@ZerefCifer707
2 күн бұрын
Nope, as a new player, I'm really grateful
@christianjaybermudez6447
2 күн бұрын
Even as day 1 player I still need mats
@SuperEarthHQ
2 күн бұрын
yeah man I didnt even have enough to max one character lol
@RandomPinoyGamer
2 күн бұрын
Nah fam. Horizontal investment players appreciate this way too much. I've never been able to experiment this much in a gacha game since forever. It's still all not enough, but everyone, EVERYONE is now on a functional level. 3 patches in, 4months of play. Being able to play more characters, in an action-gacha game, is a godsend. With the limited amount of characters I'm now even exploring Taoqi comps. This would be an unthinkable experiment in other gacha games due to the amount of time investment needed. My Taoqi is now 80. Slamming 40-50k ults. 100k dmg on rotation. And this is incredibly FUN because I would never think of building Taoqi if mats were any harder to come by!
@corinna-s2h
2 күн бұрын
Title of video genshin player experiences kindness from another game.
@childex3
2 күн бұрын
fr. they have've been abused for too long they dont know what it's like to be respected
@MagisterialVoyager
2 күн бұрын
@@childex3 i wish these sayings are joke, but i had a player of that game angrily told me that they liked that resources are scarce because the dopamine hit is higher... brother... that's SAD, frfr.
@haruusami1831
2 күн бұрын
@@MagisterialVoyagerWell in a way it is, keeping all that rage,desire etc in then when something you want, you get it you let it all out, but that's just a depressing way, those people literally got trained etc like a cattle, then once they get burned out with that repeated abuse, you will some of them lash out so hard with that game or spread their rage towards other games or just depress like why still they play it etc, hence why many GI players are like that, its also the fact sunk cost fallacy affects them so much, many people can't easily let go of things they've spent so much money on or time. I felt like alot of people who are joining in gacha space have never played a MMO, early gachas like Brave Frontier or even not gacha like Clash of Clans etc, even facebook games like farmville was also bad or just alot of live service games in general.
@aidielpanda1709
2 күн бұрын
Its really feel like unconditional love after been lonely for a long time
@FunZenCh
Күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@generalvague5741
2 күн бұрын
"Did they give us too muc--" lemme stop you right there chief
@hehuho890
2 күн бұрын
as an F2P, it's a blessing they gave us double materials as well as double echo drops after unlike that G-game where there's not a single double drop artifact event ever since their debut, probably the same with Honkai and also ZZZ, kek 🙃
@LeoStargaze
2 күн бұрын
HSR actually does have double drop events for exp, mats, and gear. The farming for gear just sucks anyway because you have to use stamina for it.
@hehuho890
2 күн бұрын
@@LeoStargaze isn't that just the same? using stamina to grind for those things? it's what stamina/resins/waveplate is for...
@claire98
2 күн бұрын
Their generosity is why I love them ♥
@FreuRozen
2 күн бұрын
This is the exact what happen on pgr. You can just instantly max out a character that just released because you have so much resources. Daily stamina is spend only to get gacha currency in event battle. 😅
@FreuRozen
2 күн бұрын
And i can see why they use stats gacha on their echo is because the patch time is far more longer than pgr. So they need the player to slow down a bit.
@begginerm9339
2 күн бұрын
but pgr kinda repeative tho lmao, but facts. Also dont forget how cogs run out crazy fast, same her with wuwa lmao shell credits get burnt
@Kramer8
2 күн бұрын
@@begginerm9339 Wuwa is way cheaper than PGR rn.
@jcruz2255
2 күн бұрын
I'd rather they give us too many mats so I can decide who to spend it on (or even mess around and experiment) than to run out and just twiddle my thumbs until a new event comes out.
@Erish_Kygal
2 күн бұрын
Honestly happy we got these materials. Even though he was my first "well invested" character, I neglected Jiyan so much when Changli came out. The best I could do was get him to 70/80 because prior to Changli, 70/70 was the highest I could raise him. I said to myself I would raise him after Changli, but then Xiangli Yao and Shorekeeper came and I had to put them on top of the list to raise because of ToA weather. Now that I actually finished both Xiangli Yao and Shorekeeper I'm honestly feeling burnt out, but these extra rewards honeslty gave me back the drive I needed. Right now he's 80/90 and his all his talent are 9/10 (Liberation is 10/10), I'm waiting for a ×2 drop on EXP mats and I'm good to go for 90/90
@glencompton1132
2 күн бұрын
I got 100% in black shores on day 1. Don't judge, it was too good to stop playing! XD
@aryabratsahoo7474
2 күн бұрын
Tbf, Black Shores is really small compared to Mt. Firmament.
@begginerm9339
2 күн бұрын
Bro, I tried to take my time with it.... I finished in 2-3 days
@Neegamind
2 күн бұрын
My all region is stuck in 99
@erehinater
2 күн бұрын
Nah, it just genshin give u guys too less materials conpare to every games in the market
@maximillion964
2 күн бұрын
It's all really good, the only gripe I have is the universal 3 claim limit for the calamity boss drops
@ragael1024
2 күн бұрын
yeah. there are 4 bosses now. at least get the limit up to 4 :))
@anhnnguyen7444
2 күн бұрын
@@ragael1024i play since lauch and i only max 5 characters skill level lol at lv60+ u get x9 piece per week n each char need like 25-30 iforgot. They should implemernt like zzz 1st 3 run is free n if u want more then used waveplate
@beestek.94
2 күн бұрын
Good thing about the boss drops is once you reach Rank 7, UL60+, the Calamity Boss drop is 3 minimum per fight. Sometimes, 4 iirc. So in 1 week, you can level 3 skills of 3 characters. Not really that bad if I do say so myself.
@Atmo-sp
2 күн бұрын
@@anhnnguyen7444 You got a little more than enough to fully max out the skills of 2 chars per patch from the moment you are ul 60. I personaly don't see the need for more than that.
@maximillion964
2 күн бұрын
@@beestek.94 I'm ul 73, and building my Xiangli Yao, I literally have to wait for 2 weeks just to max him out (only his forte and ult for the talents btw). I plan to build clacharo next and I honestly don't want to wait 2-3 weeks just to play my characters on their full potential
@ChaosFlute
2 күн бұрын
Nah, I haven't even finished raising my main teams yet. I've felt desperately strapped for materials the entire time, and the rewards this patch have been a huge boon, but I've still got so far to go.
@Billingcrate
2 күн бұрын
00:32 Reminds me of a certain white haired fellow...
@ragael1024
2 күн бұрын
i so love that, when a new character is about to arrive, if i know the weapon, i already know where to farm for weapon upgrade/forte materials. unlike a certain game *cough* Genshin *cough* where anything could work for anyone and one domain has several types of materials and artifacts and i always get the ones i do not need and so on. WuWa is so much better organized here.
@begginerm9339
2 күн бұрын
not to mention how u have to wit 2-3 days somtimes even Sunday if u are busy during weekdays. and also having to wait an extra day(Saturday) if its the material u dont need and have to wait till Sunday
@B0b-k3r
2 күн бұрын
I'm fine with it. It's lets me go back to tacet fields hell for exp. Plus I like these chests as a backup stash. Plus eventually I want to get everyone to completely max level and skill for completion sake
@begginerm9339
2 күн бұрын
Actually nah, this is amazing because wuthering waves is still new, not to mention how most of us havent built characters like aalto, chixia or yangyang because of the newer 5 star units that keep coming out. Building these characters make the game feel new again because I just built up taoqi and Im staring to get a hang of how she plays. She feels so good and her kit being defense is so fun.
@jamin3131
2 күн бұрын
Ive been hoarding lots of supplies apparently so ive using them up but credits are still not enough. Some times ill just farm credits for a few days to have enough
@begginerm9339
2 күн бұрын
real. its not a waste at least
@Zer0Perplexity
2 күн бұрын
Yeah I've been making sure to keep a stockpile of 5mil credits between raising Resonators. Once I get my Sub-DPS's maxed and my Supports, I'm going to start farming Tacet Fields. For now just been using the passive income if tuners from the events to get by.
@johns783
2 күн бұрын
always need energy. make more echoes, that's all. got great set? good, make a 2nd one. roll two 3 cost moonlit of every element. get at least 4 one costs while you're at it. rol two 3 costs of each element for the atk set, just in case. can also roll an atk and ER 3 cost for each element. while you're doing this you'll gradually improve your main set and have a 2nd set available for when you eventually make double dps teams of the same element, as well as having ready sets for moonlit sub dps as well. and that's what my next year of wuwa looks like. pausing briefly to build about one character a patch, two if i get a sequence 6 4 star i want to use, or a new Rover.
@cep21
2 күн бұрын
Nah, you could just save it for future use, it's not like it will expire,
@Kojiro3210
2 күн бұрын
Nah, theres not too many materials to go around. The only game thats loading players down right not is HSR. Ive already burned through all the credits and exp items. Its given a good amount through events only because the base amount is available, which is still very much gated by waveplates like any other game. Raising characters is indeed not fun. i still got charscters i want to use but cant ascend cuz im broke 😂
@toxicdumplings2814
2 күн бұрын
its good that they give out a lot of materials, I didn't play for like 2 months and I was able to max out 3 characters coming back, which is one full team. they are mad expensive
@devinroi3886
2 күн бұрын
I thought so too but theyll come along later. Meanwhile in HSR i got over 150 stamina replenishers i forgot existed
@AuraLegend-up8tp
2 күн бұрын
The flow of materials helped me finally fully max my main, Changli, fortes. Now I want to build Jishi cuz lore
@Gheniel_
2 күн бұрын
Yeah all my characters are all already fully built, so now I will start pre farming for future characters like Camellya, Lumi, and the gunner girl.
@jkfang
2 күн бұрын
I love being able to build my 4* or nonmeta characters I can’t even think of building in other games. Keeps things fresh all the time.
@MagisterialVoyager
2 күн бұрын
this is especially important, imo. i have the resources to really try my rotation and resonators without investing too much in resources, especially since this game is battle heavy and there's so much can happen even if you only switched ONE resonator from the team.
@corinna-s2h
2 күн бұрын
Most people work I'm not the 5 percent who don't have anything better to do
@NICSU667
2 күн бұрын
There's never too much when you are grinding for materials, it's better to have more than less for your future resonators and weapons.
@vanthongnguyen4607
2 күн бұрын
That very good for newbie, Kuro need more player for Wu Wa.
@DisIngRaM
2 күн бұрын
I'm very happy with the reward in 1.3 It allow me to build characters (Yang Yang) I would never build otherwise (due to limited resources as player that don't refresh stamina). Overall, I had probably spent 3 million shells+ (other mats) on Yang Yang, all sponsored by the event rewards. If they are giving away resource like these again, I'll try building DPS Yuanwu next.
@lesath7883
2 күн бұрын
I would prefer them to double the usual mat and credits rewards of normal exploration and material battles than rely on these limited events. While it is nice to have multiple characters and weapons on 90 already, I consider this sudden influx of mats and credits can backfire by having people quit once they stop getting the shinies next patch. And the path after that.
@chronopolize_jp
2 күн бұрын
Mats are just here to keep you locked in the game a while, tho we also like the satisfsction of raising characters. But imo the real enjoyment should be playing/learning/experimenting with the teams.
@Squashua2727
2 күн бұрын
The only mats I've ever been short on is weekly boss drops. The overworld drop rewards are nice cause the farming is kinda annoying though.
@Kryo_GTS
2 күн бұрын
Honestly it's not even that much materials when you consider how much it costs to level up just one character, five echos, their forte circuit, and a possible weapon. It's helpful for sure, but it's far from too much.
@foolinewly
2 күн бұрын
UL73 and whale refeshes for Tacet Fields, and no. Pain and suffering
@inser3882
2 күн бұрын
5:30 bro so true ive gotten 2 double crit hp% 1cost and 2 double crit spectro dmg but no er tryna build shorekeeper
@foolinewly
2 күн бұрын
Also noted, echo luck in 1.3 also been shit. Almost feels like crit and double rolls rates have been shadow nerfed.
@a4arick106
2 күн бұрын
just hoping it ain't be bloated full of actually useless materials like Genshin did, 4 years and people barely picking anything up on Dragonspine's area, not even knowing the Snow-Tombed Silverstone weapon actually exist in that area, because of how many other 4-star weapons now outshine it.
@iforgetiamacat8348
2 күн бұрын
I have like... around 80 wave plate cubes. Most of the time, when I build characters, overworld stuff runs out much faster then wave plate stuff, especially fkin wispering cores. I build 8 characters and 7 of them want that material for ascension and talents, at this point it's just a genocide of poor overworld TDs 🤣
@rx71102
2 күн бұрын
I play both wuwa and HSR and tbh finishing a character before reaching the next patch is so good. Feixiao banner is already gone and i am still farming her stuff, it is not good.
@Neegamind
2 күн бұрын
Im always confuse why does HSR release new characters too fast? Its like they just pump random 5 characters for no reason
@Ashaira
2 күн бұрын
Too much? Bro I used every single mat I got and only just now got back to being limited by weekly boss mats with only one last million credits left.
@azrafi2481
2 күн бұрын
Real issue is with the enemy drop material..like I'm always out of the whisperin shit
@DeJaVu804
Күн бұрын
They give a lot but is it enough to get every character leveled. No. I still have like 5 un leveled characters. All though I have all the characters and all my 5 stars are built including all the 4 star sub dps/support. I’m now working on building remaining 4 stars I did not have resources for previously.
@haxx1707
2 күн бұрын
nope I need more to be honest I always hated it in genshin when I get a new character but can't play with it because I lack materials to ascend them it was annoying af and no I don't pre farm because even if I look at leaks it's not enough for me to know if the character feels great to play so why would I pre farm for a character I might not like? In wuwa at least there are no talent materials locked behind daily menopause but still things are so expensive, we can't even use the ore we farmed to upgrade the weapons we have to spend valuable waveplates to get the upgrade mats for those and even then the drops are so little it will take weeks to fully max out a new character and their weapon.
@unblockablelegoblock4839
2 күн бұрын
If there is one thing that these types of games has taught me, its that I love hoarding mats
@magallanthepenguin9132
2 күн бұрын
I recycled some of my yellow tunners because I lack the exp to level up echos ;) Also in pgr...im a day one player and if u play for 3+ years you would have a lot of resources
@octyre5388
2 күн бұрын
Nothing bad for more resources... Game just makes it better cause you can build every unit unlike some other gachas where it would take a month to build one... Or two
@Catrigo24
2 күн бұрын
It's the right amount they give us 💯👍🏻🙏🏻
@ntramu4186
2 күн бұрын
Even now I’m UL 73, im still lacking of materials
@marukundesu3529
Күн бұрын
Nope. They’re useful. So now I can level the 4 stars buffer like Sanhua, Taoqi, YangYang and Danjin. Plus once Camellya is out, I have all the materials needed to max her and her weapon.
@seibaraion1404
2 күн бұрын
It’s virtually currency, there is no such thing as too much.
@Yummers321
2 күн бұрын
Nope, i *NEED* this because i took a break and only has 1 team built 💀
@akshatdixit7019
2 күн бұрын
I just hit level 60 with like 40 mil with me i didn’t play first 2months of launch so i started when jhinsi banner had 3days left i have so far pulled for jhinsi changli zhezhi shorekeeper and their signature+xiangliao’s signature as well and building baizhi trying to 8 forte ultimate,skill for all dps and sub dps with verina and shorekeeper and baizhi all the materials given out a player like me is still out of materials and i have no golden thingy left😭
@echo3568
2 күн бұрын
Too answer the thumbnail from experience: no. No tf it isn’t useless
@xyp1n
2 күн бұрын
With these materials i made my current teams go from 24 doritos to 30 in tower, now im just waiting for youhu in order to finally have a real 3rd support cuz baizhi aint it, her outro is bad and her skills are just verina but worse, i think yinlin is really gonna endulge into youhu's outro skill while i also hope camy will have good synergy with havoc rover/sanhua in order to finally have a reason to build either of them
@qwertyandwasd
Күн бұрын
There are no such thing as too much resources for a gacha player haha. We will always need new resources for new units, so getting them in advance eases me from the need of farming after I get the character, since I would want to enjoy the world with that character haha.
@muhammadwaheed1027
2 күн бұрын
We need more materials like tuners and exp
@chronopolize_jp
2 күн бұрын
Genshin just has rather high grind time for mats. Kuros as a company has less grind time, thank god i am sick of leveling up gatcha characters (i have about 40 built)
@ExDik1
2 күн бұрын
Unless skill issue, even if you have good stats , good echo you can't clear adversity because of skill issue, device issue, or else you you have money to s6 r5 all DPS characters 🤣
@MagisterialVoyager
2 күн бұрын
i'm given many things and also money. what should i do? 😂 i definitely prefer this to grinding and hitting wall on building resonators. mind you, i'm a day one, UL71 player, and i STILL need many resources even when my only limited characters are Jiyan and Shorekeeper. i understand where you came from, but i was literally attacked by someone in this sphere who went, "i LIKE IT when devs are PETTY because then i feel so rewarded when i got resources"... bro... who hurt you? that's an unhealthy relationship.
@hermasmarcusakpovo2189
Күн бұрын
You so wrong for asking that question 😭😭 OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT!!!!
@lucasroman6510
2 күн бұрын
3:04 I had to level up two trash 4 stars weapon to lvl 80 just to get the rewards 💀💀💀
@MrGoodra17
2 күн бұрын
Isn't it a waste if resources?
@olafshouse
2 күн бұрын
I rather have too much than too little
@Emptiness771
2 күн бұрын
Meanwhile I have 2400/240 stamina with 480 reserve plus 60 of those gold reserve 🤣 I do use 1500 stamina every 1-3 days (900/240) then use the 480 to fill them up again rn I'm still struggling to see 0/240 again 🤣 I think I will never see them again Also I have 60 stamina gold reserve 🤣 I maximize all of the characters already and I have 100,000,000+ 🤣 shell credits I used my stamina on shell credits because i want to see billions or 9,999,999,999 Ngl i want them to implement a 2x or 8x so i can easily spend all of those stamina without restarting
@gerudoqueenriju
2 күн бұрын
Lol, too much materials...
@corinna-s2h
2 күн бұрын
Dude does genshin treated you so bad that this is even a question no there are more characters on the way like bro
@itshaha3726
2 күн бұрын
Those material events are more like a bandaid, it's not fixing the core problem
@itsmag1c670
2 күн бұрын
there not much problems to begin with except for few exceptions but only if you are building multiple characters at a time and even then its far better than other games
@amaasd-jg5wz
2 күн бұрын
i don,t know what you want
@Talinthis
2 күн бұрын
whats the fix? zero cost upgrades for everything?
@devinroi3886
2 күн бұрын
What's the core problem?
@ilegitcookie
2 күн бұрын
I agree, the core problem of having upgrade materials locked behind specific days of the week, the absolute insanity of needing to grind out your entire world (possibly multiple times) for ascension mats, needing to use an extremely time gated resource to enhance anything to max, and not having any kind of real reserve stamina syste- Oh. Jokes aside though, the "core" problem of taking time to finish a character really is not that bad compared to other games in the space, there's a lot of streamlined aspects of it that go relatively unsaid. Them just giving everyone these mats lets people finish one or two characters with very little stamina usage, which is all people really were asking for since they just wanted to finish their teams to comfortably chill in endgame.
@InversedTsunami
2 күн бұрын
No! I'm still gated by weekly mats! And still have zero tuners! 😂
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