This is where players have to learn that the most meta warping card does not equate to the best deck in the format. Just because MagnaX isn't the most played deck, it doesn't mean that Magnamon X Antibody (BT16) isn't the root of the problem. And when International format reaches the Mother D-Reaper + Shoto combo, all it continues to prove is that having an oppressive body that is unaffected by effects that can block is the actual problem. When the game only becomes "Who can get around a 15000DP blocker?", the game gets extremely stale. This is a design failure. Numemon would still probably do well in a meta without MagnaX, but I don't believe it would be as dominant. This reminds me of "That Grass looks Greener" meta from Yu-Gi-Oh! The game became either you run a 60 card deck or you don't. And it was awful. Either you ran Grass or you ran anti-Grass. Either you run MagnaX or you run anti-MagnaX.
@auraaetherbladesigma6939
3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if magnamon x or the Magnamon focused decks get hit by the list, because of how severe the power wall is thanks to it’s skill set, but if not, there’s the golden knight option card that can hurt it’s consistency. Personally my go to during this format is either Fenriloogamon or Imperialdramon.
@benjaminwiseman6567
3 ай бұрын
You said it exactly on Magnamon X. It's the thing I've been saying for weeks, with everyone mocking me for saying it. Magnamon X is the reason Numemon is so dominant right now. It's the only deck that can deal with Magnamon X. Numemon was one of the top decks in BT15, but lots of other decks were topping as well, and gaining a new Ukkomon and a new Ace isn't the major difference. Magnamon X is the major difference. If you hit Magnamon X, Numemon starts to fall off. If you hit Numemon without hitting Magnamon X, particularly the yellow vaccine version, it becomes Tier 0.
@AlexMartinez-gv7hy
3 ай бұрын
I don't think Numemon would fall off if you hit Magnamon X. It's still able to go wide and with Ukkomon being at max 8, it's consistent hatch a new egg, evo for 0 or 1 and then move out with a tamer gain more memory or search. It's consistent enough that I think people will just stick with it similar to Mirage.
@MJ-oi6ul
3 ай бұрын
Omg FINALLY everyone attacks me saying they created magnax to counter numemon but the they dont have one card that is so oppressive the deck as a full package is good vs having one boss monster that does everything for you and you can run anything else you want with it!
@Triler500
3 ай бұрын
@@MJ-oi6ul mangamon x blue loses vs numemon tho
@Triler500
3 ай бұрын
nume still beats or goes even with every other deck in the meta rn
@jermaineevans6910
3 ай бұрын
Numemon feels oppressive against the majority of decks in the game. It is fast, has a ton of draw power, and has strong toolbox of floaters, removal that sticks on the opponent's turn, hand traps, and various forms of control in a memory-efficient package. Mirage is another deck that can deal with Magna X. The video did make a good point in that Magna is a gatekeeper deck though. The best decks can get around Magna X, but Nume isn't the only deck that can. It just beats other decks at a higher rate.
@NoxKaristonn
3 ай бұрын
What a nice way to end the night🎉
@Gorerend
3 ай бұрын
Think youre extracting a bit of a fallacy there on the results, Magna X can be overcame by a multitude of decks and slowed down by the same extent, but it is the aggression forced by Nume thanks to the Ukko Engine and its consistency in feedback looping that push the decks that could threaten Magna X out of the meta, thus forcing only the faster decks to be playable and the slower more control oriented decks to fall by the way side.
@Oops-All-Agumon
3 ай бұрын
I think the point is even though that BT16 Magnamon X has some counters and isn't the best deck can still be a strong a card impacting the current state of the game. Numemon while good into everything gets better the smaller the format gets. looking at the last meta report we went from a solid 10-12 playable decks to about half that and numemons top 16 percent representation doubled is an interesting statistic to point out. Sure BT16 ukkomon and Valkyriemon Ace gave numemon a big boost but other decks are using those tools and engines too and not finding the same level of success because they might not have a good answer to BT16 magnamon X.
@Gorerend
3 ай бұрын
@@Oops-All-Agumon well there in lies the issue, Ukkomon has so far been used as a primary engine of the majority of top performing decks from here to ex07 (BH, RH, Nume, variants of Magna Armor and has been a lynch pin for them moving forward), their generic applicability is too strong in that while they can serve as a booster for lower consistency decks, they get instantly over shadowed by already aggressive decks that can use them and dominate the playing field before an answer can be manifested by those slower decks. It becomes a race to where you have a standard deck playing into what can be a memory choked efficiency and 4 bodies by t2. Like no other card generates 7-8 memory worth of value just for being raised between the dig/mem gain, the rehatch and the turn advancement the rehatch grants. Magna X however still loses to being swung over which a few decks can manage, or chump blocked, if they use a Blinding Ray to trigger their own immunity then they lost out on a swing if they do it before hand, its a card that at the very least has a measure of counter play that is generally available to most if not all decks (and still cant handle security options if they dont proc their immunity first), meanwhile only certain decks can handle the rushing that Ukko enables and coupled into the recursion that its getting paired with.
@Xanitsu
3 ай бұрын
Most decks using ukkomon have to choose to either miss out on what they are looking for from the search or continue to try to push that aggro. A good portion of the time, ukkomon decks don't generally rush that hard because they need to see other rookies and possibly lui. If the rush was that great, then truly no deck would be able to win against it but half the time people don't swing right away with ukkomon to build more value or continue to try to set up. There is more of a choice on what deck uses ukkomon and how they use it than just blindly swing. Sure there might be limited options on dealing with cards coming out of the raising area just like how magnamon X has limited answers too. Both are a clear issue which is what I am trying to point out in the video but at least numemon doesn't invalidate removal and require specific answers to beat unlike magnamon X and it is that dynamic I am trying to highlight. Numemon without magnamon X is still the best deck, but at least he kind of lets others play the game where magnamon X doesn't, invalidating certain decks that would ve playable otherwise. This limits the field making numemon better because now there is less he needs to answer for.
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