Despite the age of the video: ALL 1x12 systems from Shimano doesn't have Direct Mount. Solution is to buy "standard" hanger/dropout instead of the direct mount hanger. Changing from 2x10 DIRECT MOUNT to 1x12 (Shimano doesn't offer Direct Mount) gave slight headache. This video shows why 👍🏻
@HNXMedia
4 жыл бұрын
I don't care if this video is 5 years old, it is LEGENDARY! You just saved me a trip to the bike shop! I could not get my new "1X" system adjusted correctly. Now I can. THANK YOU! Peace.
@MrDblStop
5 жыл бұрын
Now that I understand it, your video makes sense. But it didn't initially because you didn't explain in the beginning that you have the B Link, which is basically the adaptor to attach a Direct Mount mech to a Standard hanger, attached to the Direct Mount hanger. And that is the incorrect way if you have a Direct Mount hanger. Maybe I'm just slow, but not knowing anything when I first viewed, this was difficult to follow. I had to find someone's blog to understand it. Then, your video made sense, and it was also useful to see the lengthways and lateral differences between the two hangers. Thanks for posting.
@quantaloop4002
4 жыл бұрын
agree, the way the things were put at the beginning of the clip was a bit confusing
@EnuffsEnuff318
4 жыл бұрын
No WONDER I couldn't adjust my new derailleur. Holy crap! Thanks for showing this!!!
@ThunderStruckMTB
9 жыл бұрын
Good video. I sure like SRAM's lock button for removing/installing the rear wheel.......... Genius.
@joen3992
7 жыл бұрын
I found this very useful. Was given a Norco Mountaineer 2005 that doesn't have an actual hanger. But a strip of steel jetting out from the back of the body. This video is giving me hope..lol thanks again.
@wonkylommiter6364
6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks to you for this video! my bike (2nd hand) had a direct mount hanger, and a 'B' link fitted and i just could not adjust it to get all the 10 gears, removed the 'B' link and solved the problem, worth getting the hanger alignment perfect too, mine had a slight twist. sweet gear changes now! Thanks again.
@ianpearson8976
3 жыл бұрын
Why can't I just put a standard derailleur on a wolf tooth road link at an angle attached to a standard derailleur hangar. Is there anything intrinsically different about the derailleurs or are we simply trying to change the angle and placement of the rear mech.
@Blue-og9lc
2 жыл бұрын
I have the shimano deore m5120 rear deraileur but its not sitting right like I can swing it back and forth
@basengelblik5199
Жыл бұрын
Maybe I am missing something. Why would I want to direct mount my derailleur? Doesn't this affect the spring load for downshift?
@floydscofield7039
6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 BMC SF02 with standard mount, I just installed a 11-46 (10v) sunrace cassette with a Shimano XT RD-M8000 but having problems with getting on the 46cog, kinda seems like the derrailleur doesnt push in enough to thorugh the chain on the cog smoothly. Could this have something to do with de mount tipe?
@alexandercherednichenko9630
4 жыл бұрын
I have direct mount hanger and Shimano xt rd. But it doesn't have b-link. So I wanted to put bigger cassette 40t max and the hanger is too short for that. Do you think putting b-link will help?
@KG-jr8lc
7 жыл бұрын
SLX M-7000 dont have that clip anymore too! thanks for the video! looked awkward before on my new cube frame :D
@alexisplus1144
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Sr, I have a Cube Attention 2017 bike that comes with that direct mount hanger, I was planning to convert it to 1x10 speed with the Microshift Advance X groupset but my concern is if the derailurer is going to work well on that hanger since it's not a direct mount derailurer , any idea on that ? If not , I have a Deore m6000 derailurer which I believe goes up to 42t maximum and is direct mount compatible, will this one work fine whit a 11-42 t cassette , thanks
@danielbadion9932
4 жыл бұрын
I have a Diverge that was converted to a single-speed freewheel-not fixie-that I want to convert to 1X11 with a Shimano SLX M7000 group. I am having adjusting the B space because no matter how much it's tightened it drags on the top pulley wheel. I'm thinking that maybe the shop changed the hanger or did something funky to work with one small cog. Any suggestions?
@JohnnyB43
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining this 👍
@viensdiutris
3 жыл бұрын
Hey. Small possibility, but maybe you can reply. I have frame that originally had m8000 11 speed, but i want 9 speed, older derailleur. Is that doable?
@SeikoMiura
Жыл бұрын
now sram made the word "direct mount" to the next level by removing the hanger lol
@LoveMTB
Жыл бұрын
No kiddin'
@hece35
7 жыл бұрын
It seems that you can't convert older 2012 XT 10spd rear mech to direct mount. I did remove the B-link but the bolt is too thin for my hanger. And the proper thicker upper B-link bolt from newer Shimano mech won't fit the old XT mech. I could possibly drill the wheel side hole larger (there are no threads) but decided to not to bother and keep the new Deore mech in my new bike.
@tinfoilpope6678
5 жыл бұрын
Can you take a direct mount and turn it into a standard mount? I have not been able to find much information on this. I have a ultegra r8000 rear derailleur standard mount. I found a Ultegra direct mount for a really good price it looks as if all I have to do is put the B part back into the direct mount to make it work as a standard mount. Am I right? I am looking to replace my other one because it got damage in a crash I had.
@tinfoilpope6678
5 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Thank you for responding this helped.
@Revdonlee74
7 жыл бұрын
I can't find that direct mount hanger, could you please reply with a link?
@andychoe2486
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm new mtb. I'm using m8000 too. But i can't shift to my last cog 46t. If i covert it to direct. Does it help me to shift into e last cog 46t?
@andychoe2486
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB i had already max out e L limit and B screw tension.
@edisonsara
8 жыл бұрын
perfectoooo es lo que estaba buscando...así ya puedo cambiarme al XT m800...sin tener que cambiar la patilla o puntera del cuadro...!!
@jorgepena6285
6 жыл бұрын
Edison. Porque habría que cambiar la patilla sino hubiera la opción que muestra el video ??
@harelhov
2 жыл бұрын
@LoveMTB, I always find your content very valuable, thank you! I recently purchased a second hand Shimano XTR 11 RD-M900. It came without the B-link, and I wonder if I can install it directly on my Trek Stache. If it will work without the B-link, what range of cassettes will I be able to use?
@pipermoonshine3281
Жыл бұрын
I think you are confusing your words...is a direct mount a mount on a standard hanger or is it vice versa. it seems you are saying one thing and then you switch words...i am so confused.
@45graham45
2 жыл бұрын
So is the SRAM UDH hanger direct mount or standard?
@tduic
6 жыл бұрын
The standard mount had that notch at the end of the B-link, so you knew how to position the derailleur to the hanger correctly. I don't see anything here with the direct mount, and you didn't show how to position the derailleur before you tighten that weird screw. Can you explain please?
@tduic
6 жыл бұрын
So that notch is inside the derailleur's slit for the direct hanger? On 3:54, you have to rotate the mech as counterclockwise as you can (push it forward towards the front), and only then tighten the screw?
@caaaal123
5 жыл бұрын
Cheers😀 fort mine was not compatible then what a relief
@stupidty
5 жыл бұрын
its okay to use goat link for my RD XT9speed rapid rise im using 11 40t
@Etzeljounso
7 жыл бұрын
Ist it also possible to convert a M8000 RD Direct Mount into a standard one?
@felixb.59
3 жыл бұрын
I just tried in on my new deore m4100. It works but the screw is really hard to remove. If it would have taken any more force I think I would have broken the derailleur in half 😂
@alexandercherednichenko9630
3 жыл бұрын
What would you suggest if I want to extend rd so it can work with 42t cassete? Now I have direct mount rd attached to direct mount hanger. Does it make any sense if I get b-link, standard hanger and extender or there are extenders for direct mount? I couldn't find one.
@alexandercherednichenko9630
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB mine is some older shimano 10s xt rd on direct mount hanger and 36t cassette
@tibotsPADYAKatTUKOD
Жыл бұрын
Is it normal that the xt hanger or bracket is to moving to much
@tibotsPADYAKatTUKOD
Жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB the hanger or bracket of my xt is too playful it intentionally move
@Duraltia
6 жыл бұрын
Heh... When I converted to a Shimano XTR Di2 M9050/M9070 Groupset I managed to install the RD-M9050 with the B-Link to the Direct Mount attachment of the frame - Only after I noticed the strange Chainline going past smallest cog but not reaching the largest one of the cassette did I consult the manual where it explained the proper installation instructions - Sans B-Link.
@panjiputera7332
6 жыл бұрын
LoveMTB Is it because I installed the b link into direct mount hanger so it can not reach the two of the largest teeth in my 11-46t?
@wonkylommiter6364
6 жыл бұрын
Panji Putera.. yes, try removing the B -link and mount rear mech without it, onto the direct mount hanger, that is what fixed my problem similar to what you described.
@cesraihandary
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I just purchased an alivio m3100 rd 9s and a goatlink. I want to disassemble the b-link and replace with the goatlink. I've measure the width and it seems no problem. My problem is, the b-link screw (the one you pull out in the video) seems unremovable. It seems riveted. Have you ever land a hand on this kind of rd?
@SeikoMiura
Жыл бұрын
alivios m3100 is riveted unlike the older alivio m4000
@hetewei
8 жыл бұрын
Hello, great video! But I would like to know if it's possible to use those kind of "directmount derailleurs" and keep the "Standard derailleur hanger" (I'm thinking in replace my old Alivio, which use a standard hanger, for a xtM772)
@misternobody4644
6 жыл бұрын
For anyone that wants to know, you can only do this if your frame was designed for a direct mount derailleur hanger. If your bicycle frame has a standard derailleur hanger, then this conversion is pointless.
@misternobody4644
6 жыл бұрын
@LoveMTB I read an article about the Shimano direct mount hangers and I feel that it is a great idea and the industry should adopt it. With that being said, if Shimano's direct mount derailleur hanger is to be considered to be adopted, the industry should ALSO standardize how the hanger ATTACHES to the bike. If the way that it is attached to the bike is standardized, it will help the bicycle industry immensely because the status quo right now is that if you break your derailleur hanger, then you will need a replacement hanger for your SPECIFIC bicycle. For example, if I break my derailleur hanger, then I will need to find a specific conventional derailleur hanger for my specific bicycle because the way it ATTACHES to the bike is not standardized. But if all future bicycles attach the derailleur hanger to the bicycle in the SAME way, then you can buy a replacement derailleur hanger at any time, anywhere, without worrying about that they stopped producing a derailleur hanger for your specific bike. In summary, I support Shimano's direct mount derailleur hanger if and only if the bike frame manufacturers come together to finally standardize the way it ATTACHES derailleur hangers to the bike.
@tmayberry7559
6 жыл бұрын
Mister Nobody I agree but the industry is devoted to make more money any way it can. The industry is not concerned with what works best for consumers
@DanielAlvarezBicycleGarage
9 жыл бұрын
Great JOb! I am Shimano brand manager in Colombia, I share all the info I can in my channel `cus there is no much info about all of this topics and customers are wondering about this things and more. Well explained! Any doubs about products or anything just let me know, I`ll be happy to share info with you!
@kacperdabski3888
8 жыл бұрын
hi is there a direct mount rear hanger available for a boardman fs pro ??
@jorgepena6285
6 жыл бұрын
Daniel, Por fa haga el mismo video pero en español haber si entiendo mejor.
@teditwin4930
2 жыл бұрын
Where do u get that direct mount adapter he showed at the beginning of the video. ?
@alexnicolaou3579
6 жыл бұрын
i'm a bit more confused now... my old shimano XT is a direct mount, and the new xtr is also direct mount, the xt had the straight type hanger (normal) without a B-Link, but the xtr has the B-Link.. i'm quite confused now, i thought they would be compatible and direct replacements with no modifications needed
@alexnicolaou3579
6 жыл бұрын
LoveMTB it's a cube Aim Pro 2017 hardtail. And the hanger looks a bit like the (curved) one in your video, but it's straight. Same shape though
@stoenchu122
6 жыл бұрын
Is this the same for Sram rear mech?
@felixb.59
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude 🤙
@michaeldoncando1741
3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir ,can i use a newer shimano rear mechs like m6100 on my bike it has a direct mount dropout ?.. Tnx more power!
@michaeldoncando1741
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB tnx I guess im stock with m6000 Keep it up cheers!
@andrewnajera9245
4 жыл бұрын
Im planning to that thanks sir
@tibotsPADYAKatTUKOD
Жыл бұрын
Why is my xt hanger is to playful
@olivierhacking
7 жыл бұрын
Hmm, is this necessary together with the Sunrace 10 speed 11-42 cassette?
@Metal-Possum
6 жыл бұрын
USE A GOATLINK! :)
@danielaranda2114
8 жыл бұрын
Excuse me LoveMTB, You did'nt took the bolt out form the derailleur withe clip, to convert it to direct m. Please, help me out I can take the bolt out of the derailleur with the clip, are You completeley shure u can remove ir?
@danielaranda2114
8 жыл бұрын
+LoveMTB, thanks for the reply, however I already took the clip and fint imposible to.lose the bols on the slx, on minute 2:08 you explained it was posible, but u did not removed the b2 link. I tryed hard to loosenthe bolt and cant, im using the right allen key and turning it anti clockwise but It wont turn.
@danielaranda2114
8 жыл бұрын
***** It worked as advised, however the derailleur couldnt be mounted on an earlier giant bike hanger, its too clise from the cassette, thank you any way.
@danielaranda2114
8 жыл бұрын
I had this clutch derailleur on a newer xc bike and wanted to sell it more affordable, so i had the idea of exchanging the complete transmision between two bikes, and keepingthe old giant updated. The newer derailleur willgo back, andi will probable end up selling the old one even though I really like how it performs. Thak u *****!
@zakdk1
6 жыл бұрын
how would you straighten the direct derailer with the park Tool as its not even as a normal one?
@zakdk1
6 жыл бұрын
but its not as its uneven 12 and 3 are the same and then 6 and 9 are the same but different length from 12 and 3 i confirmed this on 2 brand new direct hangers.
@zakdk1
6 жыл бұрын
yes with normal hanger but direct hangers are not 360 which Means the park Tool is useless.anyone else that can confirm this will have a chat with park Tool on this.
@zakdk1
6 жыл бұрын
yesterday i thought i check if the rear derailer was straight enough on a new ´mtb cube bike that i got a couple months ago that i converted to 1x11 just to discover that with my dag2.2 that wasnt possible if you take all 4 readings from the air inflation valve as per park tools instruction. so i put a brand new D.hanger that i have and i got the same thing.PS -with a old bike with a normal hanger it Works ok .
@MattPayne1
8 жыл бұрын
Is this a cube acid frame?
@glendalela
8 жыл бұрын
were do you gey it at ?
@mtnops110
7 жыл бұрын
My frame came with direct mount and standard mount hangers. I couldn't get the indexing correct with the direct mount on my 11-46 cassette so I switched to the standard mount. Your video probably will solve this issue?
@mtnops110
7 жыл бұрын
LoveMTB ... hey so your mech mod worked wonders. I can use my direct mount hanger and my cassette indexes perfectly and allows more b line adjustment. I would've never thought of this as a solution if it wasn't for stumbling across your video right after building my bike.
@mtnops110
7 жыл бұрын
LoveMTB ... Yes. The b line adjustment was buried and if I didn't have it that way the top mech cog would rub the chainstay. Also there wasn't enough clearance to upshift into my 46t. I then switched to the standard mount but the indexing wouldn't perform properly and had ghost gears. Now with correct direct mounting the drivetrain runs flawless.
@jonienglish3231
6 жыл бұрын
i see on aliexpress selling rear deraileur extension for $5 bucks what is that for ?
@jonienglish3231
6 жыл бұрын
no not Goatlink i think mainly for older style Spring loaded Rear Derailleurs to run a larger cassette range Nothing to do with Direct mount
@Revdonlee74
7 жыл бұрын
I have a mountain bike with a cheap sunrun direct mount rear derailleur on it, but want to upgrade to Shimano xtr or xt, will this adapter plate do what you're demonstrating here, more or less?
@Revdonlee74
7 жыл бұрын
Duh, I forgot sunrun and sunrace are the same company, the screw and bolt provided match up with my frame, will this work with an xt or an xtr, in your opinion?
@Revdonlee74
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend, have a good night, I'll be ordering tomorrow before they are gone.( : ) )
@designzfuzion
6 жыл бұрын
Is it using normally hanger or you need to buy direct mount hanger??
@designzfuzion
6 жыл бұрын
LoveMTB I have a normal hanger like the one not installed in the video. Can it still be used or need something different
@vicenteaburtogaete4948
8 жыл бұрын
hello a question for good is that? what is its purpose?
@vicenteaburtogaete4948
8 жыл бұрын
+LoveMTB Thank you!!
@superelectro
5 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB dead link
@Hawlkeye-e9p
7 жыл бұрын
do the new drive trains incorporate this stuff
@TheDaniels5s
9 жыл бұрын
what is the benefit of changing to Direct Mount?
@TheDaniels5s
9 жыл бұрын
+LoveMTB i just bought a new dérailleur that comes with the B link but i have a normal hanger so i supose i'll just get the B-Link removed and mount it directly PS: Thanks, i really enjoy your channel and videos
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