I had a JSS for almost two years after a bad kickback took the end of my right index finger. That was on a Grizzly 3hp table saw. I was really disappointed with the fence and overall stability of the JSS as I make a lot of cabinets and needed repeatability. After two years I sold it and purchased the 1.75hp PCS. This saw is great and with the fence and Woodpeckers rip/flip, I am really satisfied with my purchase. I have a small shop, so portability is a must for me. I have the 36" model, and it does well for me. Heaviest timber cut and ripped is 8/4 red oak and it did it with no problem. I use only Ridge Carbide blades on my table and sliding compound miter saw. Thanks for the review Izzy.
@larrycurran7005
2 жыл бұрын
I have had my jobsite saw for around 3 years now. I love it. The mobility, the fact it can be folded up and down with ease, the almost out of the box setup and accuracy. Fortunately my fence is tight on. When I lock it there is no wiggle at the other end and it snaps into position parallel to the blade. The table is of course on the small side compared to cabinet saws, the blade and miter gage are average. I replaced both after a few months with an Incra miter gage and top quality combination blade with a flat tooth every 5th one. Dust collection is ok. Better than many others but not up to cabinet saw standards. I do a lot of rabbit and dado work but prefer to use a router for that. From my comparison to other job site saws I found it more accurate and versatile than others. Factory support is outstanding. I have made several calls to them, got quickly to a very knowledgeable person and had my questions accurately answered. Not having the room for a cabinet saw I have been extremely satisfied with my jobsite saw. Also, have never had a misfire on the safety mechanism. Did set it off once when the blade kissed the edge of a kreg aluminum miter gauge extension. That was my fault not the saw but it did show the safety feature works. My saw is plugged into a regular 15 amp outlet with no problems ever. Would I buy it again, absolutely! Does all the cabinet work just fine that I ask it to do. By the way. That little extension for the miter gage looks very handy to overcome one of the limitations of a small table top. Also, I added a 4 ft. extension on the face of the fence to overcome the smaller length of the original one. I build a lot of 6' and 7' tall cabinets using a combination of track saw and job site saw. Hope my experience helped a bit in a decision to buy or not, a job site saw.
@storera21
2 жыл бұрын
I've been building out a fairly large basement workshop for the last 3 years now, as a hobby for now as I build my skills but with the long term goal of creating a second income stream one day. I have one of these saws and I built it into a large cabinet enclosure as others have described. I've been using it for years now on furniture and fine woodworking projects and I have some thoughts. I upgraded the fence using the Versupercool Tools aftermarket fence system, which is quite excellent and completely transforms the way the saw feels to use, it is much more like a "real" table saw now, so I will not say much about the stock fence. I will say that I disagree with the information in the video regarding the need for thin kerf blades. Obviously a thin kerf blade will cut with less resistance, and I do use a thin kerf rip blade occasionally if I need to do a lot of heavy ripping. However, I find that with a high quality full kerf blade, the saw doesn't feel underpowered, and I find myself being reluctant to take the time to switch to my thin blade because it usually isn't worth the effort. In general, I've found that the horsepower rating on power tools can be misleading, its useful for establishing the general class or category of tool, but just because two tools say they're both 1.5 HP doesn't mean they'll have the same power, in my experience. The SS jobsite feels pretty powerful for a little saw IMO and I've been able to rip 2 inch thick 6 foot long boards with a full kerf blade pretty comfortably, and I've made some joinery cuts 3 inches deep through maple and mahogany and it did work as long as I paced the cut right. Works great with an 8 inch dado stack also. I will also say, just like in the video, the blade angle adjustment is super accurate and really nice to use. My saw wal also perfect out of the box in terms of fence and blade squareness. !!!!!******BUT*****!!!!!! I have one major gripe/warning that I really can't overstate: I find the blade height adjustment to be not just annoying, but downright frustrating. That quick height adjust makes sense if I was actually using it for what a jobsite table saw is meant for: if you just need to cut some plywood and 2x4s then being able to raise and lower the blade quickly is more convenient. But it makes it super hard to cut really accurate tenons (using the miter gauge method) or dados or rabets, to the point where I often look for other methods of creating those cuts rather than take the time to dial in my saw's height to the level of accuracy I want for certain applications, which might take 20 minutes (just to set the blade height). A big part of the problem is not just that the blade adjustment is twitchy and hard to microadjust (which it is), the blade height will often change by about 15 thousandths of an inch when you first turn the saw on after setting it to a new height. This is because the mechanism that sends the blade up and down has a certain amount of slop and backlash that I don't think you would find in the typical mechanism on other saws, so when you start the saw it sort of "settles" into a stable position. That means I need to set the blade height, run the saw, and then re-set the blade height, and then run the saw.....and do that until I'm at the right setting. I know some people will laugh at trying to get that precise, but in certain applications it really does matter. Again, if you were using this in any normal jobsite applications, or any cut where you are cutting all the way through the wood, you would never even notice this. But if you're trying to cut precise parts for small wooden 3D puzzles, for example, its super irritating. At this point I've committed and learned to live with it, but given that I invested so much in upgrading the saw with an aftermarket fence and cabinet enclosure, I really wish I'd spent a little more money and gotten the contractor grade saw, which has a larger and cast iron table and a conventional blade adjustment mechanism. If you want to do something like I did, and turn it into the center of an actual woodshop, I would advise against it specifically because of the blade height issue (everything else actually works great). Either spend more money to get the contractor saw, or just get the dewalt jobsite and be careful with your fingers. If you don't anticipate using the saw to cut precise joinery or intricate parts, this may be less of an issue.
@rayanderson1870
2 жыл бұрын
I live in New Zealand. Exotic tool stuff is expensive here. A standard jobsite saw is typically between $500 to $1200. The Sawstop Jobsite saw is not imported - only the cabinet saw. An 'Other brand" cabinet saw is between $1600 to $3000. The Sawstop is $7900 and replacement brake units are $240. There is no way the average home woodworker can afford these no matter how much you want to protect your fingers (for reference, the average trade worker after tax wage is around $22 per hour).
@theabombination1
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you just get one shipped over from AUS? this saw is $2499AUD, whilst still not cheap, its a lot easier to justify than $8k
@ctmurray
Жыл бұрын
Carbatec now is selling the Jobsite saw for $2,299.
@shabazan
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the jobsite for years. It’s flush installed into a 4x8 work table, so the size limits are not a big deal. Totally agree about the fence. One other small complaint is that the table is not magnetic which would be nice. Also, I tripped the safety (metallic tape stuck to the underside of the sheet goods). My fault. Needed a new cartridge, blade and boxers.
@willboudreau1187
2 жыл бұрын
funny!
@andystjohn61
2 жыл бұрын
I nicked my miter gauge and learned the same lesson.
@paulwaldrop
2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Jobsite pro about 2 years ago, and it replaced the DWE-7491. I wanted a bigger saw, but shop size is only 160 sq ft, so I needed a saw that would fold up out of way. As far as the saw goes, I'm with you on the fence. As long as I remember the trick, it works fine. Also, the miter gauge, that they provide, is a disappointment also. I actually love the quick up/down with the blade, as it works great for me. I've cut all kinds of stuff, and it works fine for me. But, I'm with you, bought it for safety. They are releasing a smaller saw, soon, for $899, no stand on it. I am looking at it to see if worth buying it, selling the Jobsite pro, so I can add saw to router table, but need to see what compromises they put into it. Good on the nose critique of it. Thanks.
@scottmorris4914
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, awfull expensive for a job site saw. The fence is a mistake. There are way too many saws out there with a rack-n-pinion fence that pretty much dead on, not to put that style on. I can see where the quality of power could cause issue with the false trips. SawStop seems to charge double for their saws over a “like” saw. But this seems even more.
@biguprochester
2 жыл бұрын
Dewalt. The fence stays parallel to the blade and you adjust it with a knob. I check it all the time and it never isn’t parallel
@veganpotterthevegan
2 жыл бұрын
@@biguprochester my fence was over a millimeter off when I bought it. Every few months, I need a small readjustment. Not at all bothered by that. Just saying it's not actually perfect.
@nailbndr9869
Жыл бұрын
I have three sawstops, jobsite saw is one of them. I do interior trim and custom cabinets, but also install prefab cabinets. It's great for installs. I've been very happy with it but the main reason is the safety and peace of mind. I've been in the business for 45 years, still have all my fingers and being in my 60's I swapped out all my table saws to sawstops for this reason.
@ajquestell
2 жыл бұрын
I have had the original JSS for six years and it was my only saw for most of that time. Loved it. Just treated myself to the 3hp Sawstop PCS last year. Knock wood, I've never tripped either.
@AppalachianLife
2 жыл бұрын
I've had my SS JS saw for 3 years. I got it to finish the inside of my new house. I wanted the mobility of a job site saw so I could move it to the room/floor I was working on. I also wanted the safety features because my young sons are getting more into helping with projects. Recently, I've been building bee hive boxes and frames for my wife. Love the blade guard dust collection and mobility. To overcome the blade height adjustment issues, I've created some jigs to get dados and rabbits dialed in pretty quickly.
@paulpasch6494
2 жыл бұрын
Good review Izzy. I purchased my Jobsite Pro two years ago. It was dead straight out of the box. I got used to the fence movement on lockdown, I micro adjust at the ruler and lock it in, and it’s fine. I hate the slop on the SS miter gauge, though. It died not fit tightly in the slot. Solved that problem with an Incra SE 2000. I love this saw! Cheers!
@rsc4peace971
2 жыл бұрын
Your analysis and assessment are spot-on. I have been a hobby woodworker and also a Ph.D. engineer (retired) who has over 45 years of R&D experience and knowledge. Any product's value is determined by form&functional differentiation compared to the competition. In this case, the "safety in use" is perhaps the most (proprietary) differentiation and they are "MILKING" it for every penny
@Erik_The_Viking
2 жыл бұрын
It's the only differentiation they have, and the patents on it are expiring so yes they're definitely milking it for all it's worth.
@ramosel
2 жыл бұрын
After flying NAVAIR, I followed a similar path but the Product Development side of things, retired now too. I developed my own approach to a "product's value" wherein it's innate quality is inversely proportional to how much time I had to spend identifying, finding and fixing problems. Based on the issues Izzy has shown with this saw... at that price... I agree they are milking their one golden egg as the rest of the tool has some serious problems.
@jessec8562
2 жыл бұрын
I have this saw, bought it used in 2018. It does great for me and is solid and accurate. So my take on this is the new ones may have cheapened up. I do plan on bumping up to the professional model soon though. Thanks for the video!
@MatthewMakesAU
2 жыл бұрын
DeWalt 7491 has the best fence for jobsite saws
@izzyswan
2 жыл бұрын
absolutely agree with you!
@richcooke9241
2 жыл бұрын
I do not know what model # Dewalt I bought a few years ago, but the fence is hyper accurate for a $600+/- table saw! Plus, if the blade guard is removed the saw will not start until the operator acknowledges that it's MIA
@jeremyjohnson3613
Жыл бұрын
Can you explain why
@mohdalisyed
2 жыл бұрын
I wish this was a review of the new sawstop compact table saw (CTS) which they have recently announced
@matthewtupper8356
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a JSS Pro for 6 months now and am satisfied overall. PROS: 1) The finger saving technology provides huge peace of mind, and luckily I haven’t had any false trips yet. 2) After a brief learning curve, I’ve come to like the fence. As a couple other reviews have pointed out, use the red line over the ruler to select the distance from the blade, then pull back on the fence, then engage the lock. The fence snaps to square, the red line doesn’t move, and the distance is dead on 100% of the time. 3) I like the bigger table surface as compared to all of the other jobsite saws, as it provides more stability and flexibility for making a variety of cuts. 4) I’ve been able to adjust riving knife side to side in order to permit the use of thin kerf blades, which is a big plus on any jobsite saw. CONS: 1) Blade height adjustment. As described by others, it’s extremely difficult to dial in a very specific height for dados, lap joints, etc. 2) After ripping long boards, say around 4’ or longer, there is often a +/- 1/32” difference in width between the front and back. I haven’t yet figured out what’s causing this: fence slightly out of square relative to the blade? Fence movement? Other?
@Cecil_X
2 жыл бұрын
The company I work for bought one for the local Habitat for Humanity. That is the only experience I have with the job site saw - a few Saturday's worth of work. The quick height adjustment was not a problem for my use, but I can see your point. I did not like the fence. I don't see your point about a 1.5 HP motor on a job site saw. I believe that is fairly standard on smaller saws. I have the contractors Saw Stop in my home shop, and love it. I would like the 3HP cabinet saw, but it comes down to price vs how much time I spend in a hobby shop. Storing all the accessories with the saw is great. Especially in a situation like a Habitat job site, where tool hunting is part of the job description. It is expensive, but it is infinitely cheaper than a single finger amputation.
@garyfairbrother5532
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my SawStop Job site saw for 3 years now. I’m just a box making hobbyist for the most part. My shop is very small and the ability to easily wheel it around is fantastic. It’s the first “real” table saw after using those big box store little guys for many years. I’m 77 now. I agree that precision height adjustment is something I don’t look forward to when making dados and rabbits. The measuring blocks help immensely because to make the height adjustment I use both hands on the wheel kind of fighting each other so it doesn’t jump an eighth inch at a time. That doesn’t leave another hand free to use another type gauge. The fence is jumpy too but extremely accurate. It’s much more manageable not a big deal when you get used to it. I’ve tripped it once while stupidly clearing the blade of a cut-off (too soon and without a push stick) while it was still coasting down. SawStop replaced the cartridge free when I sent in the fired one to their customer service for testing. I took a picture of the tiny Nick on my thumb but had to circle the spot with a sharpie so that it could be seen in the photo. No blood even. Glad it was smarter than me or I probably would be having a hard time picking up change in my old age. Good review, it is a very good, safe saw for guys like me and like comparing a scalpel to a chainsaw to,what I was used to.
@groverprice4755
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had this job site saw for about 4ish years. The fence has always been square, the slop is mostly annoying when trying to micro adjust it. The power is underwhelming but does the job most of the time. Of course I wish the rip capacity was larger. Overall I’ve been happy with the quality of the saw, though I’m not a professional on a job site, I have had to drag it around to quite a few different jobs. Side note, I have the older version and my Izzy extension only works in the right miter slot with the extension in the closed position due to the older bar construction, which is also annoying but at least I can use it with my miter gage and cross cut sled.
@bobd5119
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling us about poor power condition tripping the stop. My house gets "blinks" on one of the legs when it is windy. So far, my Contractor Sawstop hasn't tripped on a blink, but if it stops for no apparent reason, I'll know why.
@Galgamoth
5 ай бұрын
just use a blade guard and save a ridiculous amount of money to protect your fingers from getting cut off, plus you get kick back protection.
@DavZell
2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to have you review the brand new Compact Table Saw model that is "only" $899.
@rkrzyston
2 жыл бұрын
bought mine last summer.. also had issues with the fence. Im going to try the pull method! I upgraded to a CMT combo blade and love it. Also agree with the infeed... soooo short
@wiredperformance6130
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the review. I wouldn’t spend that kind of money but I work alone in my shop and have no desire to test running blade sharpness with any digits! Every day is one closer to a few jigs you make! My shop is only 10x12 currently.
@BronkBuilt
2 жыл бұрын
Great review Izzy. I've had mine for a few years and it was a huge upgrade for me as I was on a really crappy $75 (new) tablesaw. The 3 main issues I have is for sure that movement in the fence when locking so thank you for that tip. It is workable, but annoying for sure. Second, my table saw deck is not flat. Not at all. I worked with SS and they would not give me a new one. I can put a square on the left of the blade and be at 90. Don't move anything except the square to the other side and it is out quite a bit. Even with larger squares taking the throat plate out of the equation. I can even place a straight edge over the deck and see the gaps. I've used brute force to get it closer, but it is still not flat. Their answer to my $1400 (at that time) saw was "it is a jobsite saw, you should not expect perfection". Third is pretty common I think with all saws and that is the miter gauge that that comes with it is total garbage. Threw mine away. I do use a full 1/8" blade (Ridge Carbide Blade) and never had an issue.
@robertsmith3518
Жыл бұрын
If you have documentation of who/when / you spoke with @ SS and you used a Credit Card to buy . Try asking the CC company for assistance in resolving a warranty issue , The worst thing they can do is say no . If that dont work ,goto your courthouse and ask one of the clerks how to file a civil action against SS . It will cost about 200 to process the paperwork but now they must hire legal council for $3000-5000 to defend a 1400 saw. See where this is going ? Good luck
@Lumberhacksteve
8 ай бұрын
Great video and I wish I had watched this before buying my SS saw. I have had mine for about 3 years now just as a hobbyist and the fence is by far the worst part. Its so bad that it really knocks your confidence around to get accurate cuts. As a job site saw cutting framing timber or Pergolas I am sure its fine, but trying to make cabinets or anything accurate is just about impossible. So hard to get square anything. The safety feature is why I bought it being my first saw and that part I love. Should be on all saws.
@ateddy7901
Жыл бұрын
Yes dwalt and matabo have the best fence...having a qaulity fence is almost like a safety feature...i would choose a good fence over saw stop... but idobunderstand your safety concerns...
@michael.schuler
2 жыл бұрын
SawStop has introduced a benchtop TS, (SawStop CTS-120A60 10" Compact Table Saw - $900). Its form factor and rack and pinion fence copy the excellent Dewalt DW745. This new SS saw provides the safety technology while addressing two main negatives of the saw you review here: excessive weight/bulk and price.
@tims6376
2 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my old 113 model craftsman it may not have all the bells and whistles but it is very accurate and with the upgrades I've giving her she's the best
@DIYHGP
2 жыл бұрын
Izzy not so fast, thanks I think you need to reevaluate how the fence comes into alignment. I’ve been using my Sawstop contractor Saw for five years and I thought the same thing at first. It seem to be a lot of slop but it all has to do with where you push the fence when you’re preparing to lock it down. it’s always the back end of the fence that seems to jump in the place and the front edge of the fence comes in on the measurement
@VampireOnline
2 жыл бұрын
Was it a Bosch that you showed a couple years ago that had the finger saving tech in it? Wish more companies can come out with their versions. That one didn't destroy the blade.
@Gold_Lightan
10 ай бұрын
Sawstop sued the hell out of them and won. I guess that’s a warning to other companies. Bit sad really.
@DconBlueZ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!
@MCsCreations
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and honest review, Izzy! Thanks a lot! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@stevenfoust3782
2 жыл бұрын
Everything said here is on point. Personally I’ve used Dewalt for the last 27 years as the rack and pinion fence is the best when adjusted properly for accuracy. I recently switched to the skill worm drive saw for job site use because it has all the features of the Dewalt, lots of power, a larger table, and a great stand. I would never use the saw stop. Your blade choice is on point as well and one would seldom need any other blade other than a 24 t for ripping junk.
@gdonham1203
2 жыл бұрын
I have a Powermatic 66 3HP and I am spoiled. I used to have a Craftsman contractor saw and that was ok when I added a Biesemeyerr fence. The portable/contractor saws are great for portability but suck for cut quality and power. Even the nicest portable or contractor saw just cannot compare to a bigger cabinet saw. Now that is comparing apples and oranges but most portable/contractor saws are for making construction cuts and not fine work. You can make it work for fine work but it is a constant struggle to keep it accurate when you throw it in a pickup and haul it around.
@Caymen43
7 күн бұрын
Pull on the fence slightly forward as your locking it down... That will stop the movement...
@BradleyKanieski
4 ай бұрын
After missing bone on two fingers I’m picking one up as soon as I’m healed. Not sure if I will run my other T saw ever again?
@getdirecti0ns
2 жыл бұрын
The 15amp motor power is just a limit placed on all 120v power tools.
@dario2194
Жыл бұрын
definitely an issue with the design of the casting, where the trunion is bolted to the table top. I've replaced a few trunions where they broke at the exact same spot. I've got pics if you're interested. I suspect rough play but it is a contractor saw, it should be able to handle the odd bump. These were all replaced from students at a trade school, not a work site.
@franklinkarrass5830
2 жыл бұрын
A very informative video. This is the first video that gives any info on blade kerf vs wood that I have seen so far. I also like the accessories portion of this video. It is because of the aforementioned things that I have subscribed.👍
@ex-nerd
2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Bosch Reaxx when it was still available because it had a lot of nice little benefits over the SawStop. It's a real pity they never worked out their patent issues because it would be nice to have 2 competing finger-saving jobsite saws on the market, especially one that won't kill your blade, and which you can use safely with inexpensive blades that have anti-kickback shoulders on them (which SawStop tells you not to use because they can bounce off of the brake and prevent/slow the mechanism). FWIW, the fence was equally bad, but of the "push to keep it stable" variety). I eventually upgraded to a PCS when I had room for it, and sold the Reaxx to a newish "garage woodworker" (basically where I was when I bought the saw) and I know he's getting great use out of it.
@jessevardaman6208
2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Sawstop Jobsite Saw Pro last November. For the most part I like the saw. What sold me is saving my fingers in case of an accident. I have a very small shop and the ability to fold up the saw to move it out of the way is another reason I bought this saw along with being able to use Dado blades. I would hope that at some point Sawstop would come out with an update to the fence as the fence is the only thing I am disappointed with on the saw.
@brutusman12345
2 жыл бұрын
I have the first version and it has had zero issues. Another contractor friend of mine purchased the newer pro model and hates it. Not sure all they changed but not going to upgrade unless I have to.
@roncoulombe1058
Жыл бұрын
A table saw injury happens every 9 minutes. I cut my finger in July on my DeWalt table saw. Stitches and ER visit cost $4400. I bought the job site saw the next week. The saw itself is way better plus the safety feature. BTW, Playing guitar is weird when you can’t feel your middle finger.
@thewestendwoodworker
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the info on the blades! I have a Dewalt 7491 and good blade would really help.
@williamellis8993
2 жыл бұрын
Alan Stratton (As Wood Turns on TY) tripped his but on that saw, the blade doesn't retract like the bigger saws. The brake just slams into the blade to stop it.
@juanc.mendoza632
2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Easton Maryland! You’re right is not recomendable much for side jobs.I watched a video of Rob Cosman and he cut a piece of aluminum and thesystem of the saws was activated.
@svengrootendorst287
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Izzy i believe that festool also has a finger saving mechanism in its tablesaw
@AaronGeller
2 жыл бұрын
because Festool bought out the patent.
@TheWoodcutter34
2 жыл бұрын
I have been a woodworker for over 50 years and one thing for sure is that i will never own a saw stop After the way the inventor tryed to make it mandatory on all saws after he couldn't sell them on the common market. I don't like being told I have to do something.
@craigsummerville8823
2 жыл бұрын
The school I work at had an almost new Kobalt job saw with the rolling stand for use in their Innovation & Design Lab. I got it from them for a donation to an endowment fund. They replaced it with a SawStop for one reason: liability insurance. Myself, I’m not such a fan of it that I would buy it for the finger saving tech.
@blandmccartha
2 жыл бұрын
You're iusing the fence wrong. Use the red hairline in the window to set the exact width of the cut. When you snap the lock, the fence will snap to exact square at the desired width. No need to measure the distance from the blade to the fence. Try it. You'll see it is dead on every time with no need for a tape measure. I've had mine for 3 years. Keep the blades clean and you will grow to love it. Just ordered one of your Saddles for it. Thanks for building a saddle for my jobsite.
@orrinkelso9295
2 жыл бұрын
Under 2HP? Not a problem if it is an old Delta Unisaw with the giant bullet motor. Never had a problem cutting anything including 8/4 oak.
@murphymmc
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see guys promote saw blades that are nearly two or three times as expensive as the ones I've been using for a couple of decades (with excellent results as a finish guy) and calling them "not expensive". Oh yeah, the longevity argument is thrown out, and then thrown out. As usual, great content Izzy. My job site saw is the first (and best) generation of the Rigid. It's heavy for a jobsite saw which helps stability, the fence works well. It has a couple of weak point made more aggravating by it's obsolete status. I've used the newer model, meh. I've used many other brands of jobsite saws, they all have serious limitations. Seeing this short review puts the Sawstop in the "nope" column for a jobsite saw.
@poppawoody13
11 ай бұрын
Just a small note, if you are setting up the the square for these saws or most saws set your square on the right hand side of blade as this is the side your cut piece will be. Yeah it will have more base plate but use a bigger square.
@poppawoody13
11 ай бұрын
Don’t mean to be rude, but when you have used a Jobsite for so long you get used to its limits. And one thing you realise it can be square on the right side of blade & not on the left but as cut piece is usually on right it does not matter if it’s set up right 🍻
@ddutton0
2 жыл бұрын
I have the gen 1 same basic fence, I have had it for 4 ears no big complaints. I was upgrading from a old craftsman so a huge jump from that 1960 design.
@gregorymacneil2836
2 жыл бұрын
For use with students this is a must BUT to be honest if you adhere to strict safety standards, follow the instructions, do not rush and always keep the guards in place do you need the technology? The biggest risk I see with power tools like table saw is users who do not understand the physics of cutting tools and reaction forces involved. There are a lot of bad practices shown on KZitem. I have had a Unisaw forever and never felt unsafe but I am trained and super safe in practice.
@billboy7390
2 жыл бұрын
I've had the displeasure of using one of these and it sucks. I teach furniture making at a college and we have two of the industrial saws and in my opinion, they are built like a tank but way overpriced just like the one you're talking about. SawStop tech support is great but now that Festool owns them I just hope it stays that way.
@MrWizards1974
2 жыл бұрын
It would be well worth the price to save a finger or hand. The price is nothing compared to a work comp claim. If they can fix the false trip issue I would buy one just for the safety factor and I would pay twice what they are asking.
@daveyio87
2 жыл бұрын
I would love a saw stop for the finger saving tech. I have a dewalt job site saw, i'm just getting into wood working on in my spare time.
@steveferguson1232
2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t used this saw. I have the Metabo and the fence is great. It connects son the gears on both sides and is solid. It also has a 36” rip cut
@jimthesoundman8641
2 жыл бұрын
I have a C10RJ and it's great. Tremendously accurate and has taken lots of jobsite abuse with no complaints. Why anyone would pay for a SawStop is beyond me. SawStops are for idiots who put hotdogs on their tablesaws, or for idiots who get drunk or baked and then try to go to the garage and build stuff. The rest of us who take proper precautions don't need a SawStop because we know enough to not cut dangerous wood, and not put our hands near the blade.
@edwinfriedl2446
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimthesoundman8641 not when you have a 13 year old grandson who you are teaching wood working
@howiewhatever1072
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had one for about 6 months. I just use it in my small shop, where everything is on wheels. I completely agree about the fence. It’s annoying trying to adjust it. I also think the miter gage is crap. I don’t really care about that because I already had a good Incra after market miter gage, which is what I use. I’m also happy with the 40 tooth combination blade that came with the saw. I wonder who makes it.
@philaandrew100
Жыл бұрын
It really is a pity they didn't make the fence rack and pinion.
@troywalls7245
2 жыл бұрын
The Sawstop contractors saw is the best portable saw on the market. Not only is it the only saw with Sawstop technology, it is well built and very accurate. over the past 35 years I've had contractors saws from 4 other manufacturers and the Sawstop beats all of them hands down. My saw comes of the truck and back into the truck every day, and it has held up better than any other saw I've owned.
@Dont_Poke_The_Bear
2 жыл бұрын
After running the bigger sized saw stop at another shop, I REALLY liked it. It was solid. When they dropped the jobsite size, I was intrigued, so I went about two hours to see one in person before I pulled the trigger.... waaaa waaaaaa waaaaaaa. I tried to set aside my bias against jobsite style saws and give it a chance, but it was just severely lacking. They really did not carry over the same solid design language that was present in the cabinet style saw.
@Itsaboutthejouney
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, especially the clean power issue. I want one but run my shop off a generator. So it's out for me.
@ericrickert3045
2 жыл бұрын
I am still using my el-cheapo Ryobi little table saw, and it seems to perform well. Yes, it is not beautiful and high-tech, but I keep nice sharp combo blades on it (yeah, it has a mediocre fence). A saw-stop seems pretty far away for me due to cost, and I think I want one--but only for the safety aspect. Woodworking is a hobby for me, but I hope to get this one day.
@kevink9646
2 жыл бұрын
I’m very surprised you didn’t speak to how ridiculously horrible the miter gauge is that comes with the saw! It’s basically a throw away gauge that says “go buy your own”… would expect better for the price of the saw. Great video overall though for those looking for info on it. I’ve had my JSS for 2 years, and dialed in and got used to the fence in short time so I’m not too fussed about it at all. Wry happy with the saw overall otherwise.
@kennysoutherland9801
2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you go with the contractor saw? Its not that much more, but it has a much better fence.
@ChaseAyres
2 жыл бұрын
Sawstop just announced a new compact saw with a rack and pinion fence.
@uwelohr7958
2 жыл бұрын
Not that I might come even close to considering to buy this monster, but thx a lot for this
@tedlesch2543
2 жыл бұрын
had one for years now to cut my muskmelon and reddish plants and it works for the most part
@xxyxnxwxaxx9724
5 ай бұрын
Are these sawstop pro site saw only available in the US, I live in the UK and can't find it for sale
@ajdebeer1322
2 жыл бұрын
Hey izzy not many know this but the festool jobsite saw use saw stop finger safe technology aswell. Im still a beginer and love your videos. I like the sawstop bc of safety but they are a little expensive in south africa just for weekends
@billjudt1753
2 жыл бұрын
About the SawStop Job site Saw... why does it NOT have a dedicated (read: without a dust shroud) riving knife? Aside from the cartridge, a riving knife (splitter) is the number one safety device on a table so. So, what gives?
@topsbydominicernst8445
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Izzy. I'm a 42 year lifer in residential housing and all things millwork. I got the jobsite saw 2 years ago for use in the shop. I already had a Ridgid and a Bosch for jobsite work. Long story short: on a new, 200 amp service and a designated circuit, the saw brake activated randomly, the switch box would go into error mode for no reason and not start. It got to the point where I was afraid to use it. Sawstop eventually sent me a new motor, switchbox and wiring harness but I never put them in and sold it to a retired engineer who was happy to work on it especially with the great savings I gave him to get rid of the thing. The fence is truly awful, not just slop wise but in that it has to either be in the narrow range position or all the way over in the extended position, locked down and nowhere in between. That leaves the flimsy fence slide-out to hold the edge of boards where there is no table and it isn't adequate for the heavy boards, etc that get thrown thru a jobsite saw on a regular basis. In March I had my third table saw accident in 42 years on a Grizzly and the wife said: That's it! I bought the Sawstop Cabinet saw and it IS worth bragging about. Everyhing that their JSS and "Contractor" saw is NOT. Keep up the good work
@EPortillo5000
2 жыл бұрын
Dang! Is ten times what I paid for my craftman (was on sale btw) have to spin the wheel a lot to raise the blade but is precise and maybe because is a jobsite they didn't think about precision on the raising of the blade. See many comment but not one of somebody that actually use it on a job site I think will be the most valuable opinions.
@ucuniversity2869
Жыл бұрын
If only we could get Izzy to build a rack and pinion fence system for a cabinet saw like dewalt does for their jobsite saws🙏.
@brw3079
2 жыл бұрын
My orange Ridgid has an awesome fence
@mor4y
2 жыл бұрын
Mafell make a jobsite saw, makes the Sawstop look cheap 👀 It's a bit speciality though, most people have never heard of them if they don't build wood cabins! 😆
@izzyswan
2 жыл бұрын
I will check them out.
@harveysmith100
2 жыл бұрын
Most carpenters in Europe have heard of Mafell, little know fact, Mafell batteries are interchangeable with Metabo original
@mor4y
2 жыл бұрын
@@harveysmith100 they're actually part of this new tool battery alliance, lots of smaller and neiche brands getting together and all using the same batteries to cut down on costs, and make them more attractive to buyers. Quite a good idea actually :) Have you seen their 'handheld' 10" beam planer? 😆 or their huge 2ft something inch circular saw? 😆 really pushing the boundaries of "handheld" there! But in amongst all that mad stuff, they've a competitively priced tracksaw and jigsaw 🤷♂️
@HyzZzz
2 жыл бұрын
With Mafell, it's not about price, but about quality. The jobsite saw is mostly used by cabinetmakers. Alltough the Erika has his disadvantages, like the unhandy fence (wich is improved very recently) and the not parallel sawblade, it performs better than a lot of cabinetsaws.
@harveysmith100
2 жыл бұрын
@@mor4y Correct
@derekquiram
7 ай бұрын
For the same amount of money I could buy ONLY the SS jobsite saw, or ALL the following from Wen: table saw, jointer, planer, plunge router, trim router, air filtration box, shop vac for sawdust. Furthermore, at that price point you might as well pay extra for the shipping and get a Harvey cabinet saw that your grandchildren will fight over.
@steveeure5975
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review Izzy. Too bad SS sued Bosch over their jobsite saw with the brake. That is, in my opinion, one of the best jobsite saws available. Everywhere except the US that is.
@MichaelCampbell01
2 жыл бұрын
Their overly litigious nature is why I'll never own one.
@izzyswan
2 жыл бұрын
Yep totally agree I didn't get one till Cass was out of the of the picture
@kamleo1685
2 жыл бұрын
@@izzyswan Isn't Sawstop's patent about over?
@mriguy3202
2 жыл бұрын
Most jobsite saws have a 15A motore (or less) because many electrcial circuits are limited to 15A by the circuit breaker. So a 20A saw will not work reliably on job sites where you dont know the circuit capacity. The so-so fence is a common complaint for this saw, and other jobsite saws as well. I own the Bosch Reaxx (not sold in the US anymore) and really had to buy the safety technology because at my place of work we don't use the saw every day an dsometimes fairly inexperienced men might use it...its just too much of a risk to not have that feature....not just my own fingers.
@asam2013
2 жыл бұрын
There’s a more expensive saw- almost twice as much and that’s the Mafell Erika, which doesn’t have any fancy safety features 😊
@KevinMalliaTheMaker
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have used it for a few weeks and I completely agree. I don’t like the slop in the fence. I agree the finger saving Technology is great, but I find myself going back to using my dewalt job site saw because I need more accurate cuts with the fence.
@FarlandHowe
2 жыл бұрын
I got an almost new stop saw for $550. I would never pay the $1600. My wife wanted me to have it for the safety. I miss my 15 year old Rigid. It had power to spare and a solid fence.
@hj8607
2 жыл бұрын
Only as a in place saw for very busy shop or novice use (liability) . On site , why ? Portability in a warrior shop is nice but Hitachi (Metabo) with rachet guide , fast stop, excellent portability and stability is great at 1/4 the cost. (33" rip)
@jeancormier2005
8 ай бұрын
Not being equipped with a rack & pignon fence is a huge downfall for this price point.
@tiffanymadsen5768
2 жыл бұрын
I own the older model. Same fence problem and I cannot adjust the gap between the break cartridge and the blade. As a result I paid to have my brand new dado stack sharpened because it was an 1/8 of an inch over 8 inches in diameter.
@johnthompson3462
2 жыл бұрын
Good video.Have always trusted your recommendations and advice and have never gone wrong
@izzyswan
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@woodworkingaspirations1720
2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. As always. I need to add a table saw to my tool collection.
@Arational
Жыл бұрын
The Festool jobsite saw is more expensive. Both have an instant brake to save fingers. Why not compare it with this one?
@travisleaman3939
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had mine for 3 years and I’ve had issues with the fence shelf not retracting the whole way. It sticks out about a 1/16 even after cleaning it out and trying to adjust it. I haven’t had time to investigate further. Also, the angle adjustment will not go to 45°. I’ve somehow lost the full range of motion on the bevel adjustment. Again, haven’t had time to work on a permanent solution. Anyone else have those problems?
@EPortillo5000
2 жыл бұрын
About the angle range give it a really good cleaning, in my saw (not a sawstop) cannot get it to full zero, did all kind of adjustments and ended up putting it upside down and clean it with a small brush leaving it spotless and then got the perfect zero again.
@damsone4751
2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone said it! I bought the same jobsite one thinking that it would have that SawStop quality. I knew it wasn’t gonna be nearly as good as their cabinets obviously, but man, for the $1,700 I paid for it, I could’ve bought a Harvey or Grizzly cabinet saw. Imo I felt like I was paying 80% for the patent, and 20% for a table saw. I say if you’re an absolute beginner with table saws, this is a great saw, but if you’re experienced, this is a horrible investment and just save up for their cabinet models
@kevinintheusa8984
2 жыл бұрын
About 2 years ago I was on the fence about a new table saw for my small shop. I considered the JSS but after looking around, I got a Grizzly Cabinet saw instead and love it. I have been doing furniture building for over 40 years and no accidents but I am extremely careful.
@richardmyers6600
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review on this SawStop saw. I have been interested in getting a Saw Stop table saw for our production studio at our community theater. With so many different people, novice to pros, using the saw I feel it would be the safest to have in the studio. Have you done a review of one of their shop saws?
@tereg5
2 ай бұрын
For ppl considering this saw. I love it but the fence and the right wing has a lot of play. Love the safety technology but for that price it should be accurate. I know it’s an old post but not enough videos on the play of the fence and right wing.
@kennys10
2 жыл бұрын
I like your sight and value your opinion. I own a saw stop saw. I'm interested in any enhancements that you would suggest for the saw.
@jockellis
2 жыл бұрын
Using my 5 amp table saw, my hand slipped and my middle finger went into the spinning blade. But it slipped between two teeth and stopped the blade. I was stunned and just kept my finger in it for a second before sliding it out the side. All I had was a blood blister.
@garycronk4967
2 жыл бұрын
Great accessories! Thanks for sharing:)
@TigerCarpenter
2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that they don't use rack and pinion fence adjustment like DeWalt or Milwaukee. combined with the safety feature, which is the only selling point here, it would make it a great saw. I spent a lot of cash on battery operated DeWalt jobsite table saw. it is very accurate, and well built, but I keep running out of batteries, and I wish it had both the battery AND the regular plug power. I think I'm going to modify my DeWalt to use both the battery ANd the socket power, since it's no longer under warranty.
@wcbscout
2 жыл бұрын
Mine won’t even run at all on a generator, even with bypass. It’s a terrible flaw. I still think it’s worth the insurance for injury
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