Disc would be way more popular if atonement lasted longer. The gameplay can be overly stressful trying to manage atonement before the right mechanics
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
100%
@Darmsaft
Ай бұрын
My comment was deleted lol?
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
? Didn't delete anything
@Darmsaft
Ай бұрын
@@CB38096 Strange, my original comment is missing. But i just got a new phone today maybe that‘s the reason. I said I wish they just revert disc to the cata version without the need to apply atonements. Now that we have the tuning knob of indepedent atonement values.
@ralecgos3631
Ай бұрын
I said this on the forums and got contrarians telling me I was wrong. Thank you for the validation. Some people just want to watch the world burn.
@MumpiTV
Ай бұрын
Would love to see rapture become "instantly apply a power word shield to your entire group at 40% increased effectiveness" and THEN get the bonus no cooldown on PWS for X time So you can use it instantly as opposed to 6 globals pre-emptively.
@Ysidoroh
Ай бұрын
That would be really fun. Would be interesting making it a 3 min cd or something but atonement heals reduce the cd too since that would be super strong
@Stevie320
Ай бұрын
I was also thinking that they could put luminous barrier on a choice node with rapture, and also make it apply atonement. Would be nice to have one "oh shit" reactive button.
@glenndoiron9317
Ай бұрын
Because we can't have any other healers sneak any healing in.
@dojoisdead
Ай бұрын
Oh it feels so good to have so many problems with our specs and trees and get no changes every beta build.
@CleverRat
Ай бұрын
Your thumbnail game is actually S Tier.
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
Thank you! My editor owns
@mrpancackles3974
Ай бұрын
Yeah this one tops them, insanely good
@richardwallace8382
Ай бұрын
Yeah I literally clicked for the thumbnail hahah
@Reat_TV
Ай бұрын
@@AutomaticJak Editor is the prime. haha
@zacharywehling8172
Ай бұрын
I also clicked on this video because of the insane thumbnail.
@jojoheadshrinker24
Ай бұрын
disc is still plagued with too many gcds that do nothing. atonement application simply isnt fun.
@karlzone2
Ай бұрын
I do wish that renew and shield actually did something noticeable except for just the atonement application.
@bigbigu8671
Ай бұрын
Attonement should go back to being a passive or upgrade the duration of it :/
@Darmsaft
Ай бұрын
@@bigbigu8671 ^this!!!
@apicomplexa305
Ай бұрын
1000% agreed we play for fun not for stress to look timers . While expansions goes by they overcomplicate the spec to the point we are now . Maybe a rework to make things clear and disc ramps unique again World be nice .
@knots9119
9 күн бұрын
@@apicomplexa305 boss mechanics are complicated enough, throw disc a bone and make atonement a passive smart heal that can be extended to more allies via radiance in raid imo.
@eikonic
Ай бұрын
Thoughtful of Blizzard to hold back the huge, game-changing, Disc changes they’ve been working on until next week’s build so you could release your video. Heartwarming stuff.
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
They really are the real mvps
@eikonic
Ай бұрын
@@AutomaticJak They really are. Video on point as always - thanks for all the effort!
@TopicxWoW
Ай бұрын
The Thumbnail of this video deserves its own video of just staring at the thumbnail and commenting on it.
@jcmt8178
Ай бұрын
You know what I would love for a discipline priest to adress lack of dispell utility and increase the skill celling to create those feel good moments? I would introduce a talent (maybe even on the class tree for shadow/holy!) that makes targets of PW shield immune to MOST debuffs while the shield is active (MOST = some unavoidable raid mechanics still go through). That would play into disc fantasy of PREEMPTIVE healing, you know a curse/magic debuff is incomming, BOOM you shield the target at the last second and the debuff doesn't happen. It's sort of like a dispell that would be pressed immiedietely after the effect went through. And you cannot have it permenently on tank since the shield will break from taking damage anyway, so you have to TIME your shield if you want to use it as immunity.
@FoliumSakura
Ай бұрын
i so WISHHHHHH priest had a kick, one of the biggest complaints I had in s2/s3 when i was playing alot of disc
@Rylos277
Ай бұрын
My biggest issue with disc is just how healing feels in general with every healer being a raid burst healer. If healing is tuned down so that's our jam again I'll suffer through the bad talent tree for seasons to come
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
Yeah it very much feels like our niche has been eroded and now we do the same thing as others but way way harder
@kaitlynschoudt7779
Ай бұрын
I was REALLY looking forward to rolling Voidweaver Disc in TWW. It was all I could think about I was salivating over the flavor and the on paper spell interactions. But then I was looking into other people testing it and it just fell flat. The flavor and ideas are there, I am very hopeful they will work on tuning for this tree soon. There's other classes who needed a revamp are being worked on, but there is still time for the devs to take a look at the priest class tree. I still really wished that when they moved Mindgames to a PVP talent, they would just make the capstone on the shadow side of the class be Silence. Just Silence as a 45s cooldown and no blanket like other caster kicks. Then in the Shadow tree where Silence was an option, you replace it was a talent to make Silence a 24s cooldown and give it the blanket effect like Counterspell or Wind Shear. Sidenote, I will also NEVER forgive Blizz for removing Shining Force!!!! Such a good knockback!! Bring Shining Force back and add a talent node to make the effect a knock up, like Thunderstorm has!!!! Those two class tree changes would make priest feel so much more complete as a healer, especially in Mythic+. Luckily, Holy Archon is there and also does look cool. I like playing Halo over Divine Star as Holy, so even in dungeons it will be more fun for me than RNG Juggling Oracle. But being a Priest healer main in TWW just makes my group feel like I'm a Make a Wish case. We just need a little something something to feel better. A kick, a better stop than Fear or Holy Incap, just something with more substance.
@ds8867
Ай бұрын
ye ill go to pres evoker. The tierset change is so nice
@25rsimp
Ай бұрын
We need a way of applying atonement passively, like through PoM healing. Holy damage spells should extend the duration of active atonements like the current tier set does. Rapture could act like radiance and apply PW: shield to the 5 nearest damaged allies.
@deathbob091
Ай бұрын
s3 disc priest was a good time to be a disc main, and with that i am sadge about tww changes thus far. i hope some one from blizzard sees this video and does something. ty as always, jak you are a great resource of information about priest healing
@New.lol1
Ай бұрын
Ofc its in trouble since their rework because we are forced to play a pet build, we can't play TE now if we play voidweaver.. the 4part is horrible, Its shows how blizzard dont understand the gameplay of disc
@shinyshiny82
Ай бұрын
Priests need Shining Force back. They need that interrupt/knockback.
@Scribbinge
Ай бұрын
And the CD nerf on mass dispel should be reverted, IDK why they felt the need to nerf priest utility so bad
@erikasdads71
Ай бұрын
@@Scribbinge Almost all changes they make is about the 0.01% that plays competitive, I remember they nerfed cause on bursting week the pros were doing massive pulls and using mass dispell like there were no afixx there. When in reality while the 99% rest of players will just whipe cause the priest didn't do it on the right time.
@SamCastaneda87
Ай бұрын
Honestly, spot-on with describing the issues.. For Disc to be somewhat competitive in M+ it needs better sustained healing, a kick and at least 1 more reliable stop.. It would still be behind other healers that have stronger CC and better dispel profile for S1 but it would at least have something to help out the group.
@OneNvrKnoz
Ай бұрын
Coming back to priest after a long time away… what the heck is uppies?!?
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
Ultimate penitence lol
@nicholasdemato1718
15 күн бұрын
Yeah I was a disc priest main I'm going night elf druid this time around, they had disc so perfect they didn't have to change them this drastically
@kthomas107t
Ай бұрын
Yeah I was moving towards restoring shaman lol totemic looks fun
@kinbailey310
Ай бұрын
I really wanted to main disc for tww but I just cant when there are so many better options. Disc feels disabled to me. Atonement doesn't last long enough so it feels like a huge annoying chore. I wish they would just scrap the whole talent trees and come up with something new and awesome. Its kinda old and stale. If not I guess Ill play resto sham or holy pally like everyone else.
@Revoca-Veraco
Ай бұрын
Combine Disc and Holy again for a new healer spec and then for Preist 3 class make another Augement like class so that Drac players can be invited on the other specs in pugging cause currently why invite the other DPS spec or even the healer in a 5 man when Augement is gonna be a requirement and people hate over lapping classes in 5 mans.
@Austin_Wynters
Ай бұрын
I think one of the things that should be baseline for Disc is Sanctuary. I know in BFA smite had an absorb shield for disc and I feel although this wouldnt fix a lot of the problems discussed in the video, it would help a teeny tiny bit and I also miss those days.
@Blinkch
Ай бұрын
so glad I'm rerolling to hpal. just cant take it anymore to hope every season that disc will be good. so I rather just have 1 heal spec that way I dont have to worry about being able to play my favorite out of 2 possible specs.
@lovelywaz
Ай бұрын
Disc is my fav Priest spec and pretty much only healer I play on. I loved the idea of "Healing while doing damage" that it was based on way back when introduced. It's been mostly nerfs to that playstyle with minor buffs/adjustments here and there to keep it somewhat relevant. Let's hope it's not totally dog poo in TWW 🤞🤞
@ostschnaller
Ай бұрын
@@lovelywaz Safe to assume it's gonna be dog poo
@Cookiedough547
16 күн бұрын
I think a big buff to flash heal whould help a lot with spot healing
@thomasshepard7891
Ай бұрын
Personally I'm not too worried about it. They really knocked it out of the park with the gameplay changes in s3 so the base of the spec will always be fun to me now. Compared to all of the m+ seasons before disc being a viable option at all is still a novel concept to me lol. A lot of these might be the familiar early expansion woes before we're hitting haste caps etc. Buff uppies ✊
@mellowsunset7730
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the perspective, would love one on holy as well.
@kingtut8367
Ай бұрын
Did they give disc an interrupt yet? Still unplayable without
@deeppatel4740
18 күн бұрын
How does full mastery oracle disc perform ignoring mindbender and focusing on left side of tree do? In PvP this has been meta for 3s arena and looks good in PvE too with oracle playstyle
@ocelotl23
Ай бұрын
I'm gonna say it, I miss BFA disc
@KenpachiRyuk
Ай бұрын
I recently started playing wow again after many years away. Picked up Disc Priest and felt ok until around 60 and I noticed a HUGE issue with it when it came to damage/healing. Switched to Holy Pala and have had a great time with it. Really hope they give Disc some love
@jeremyguzman7936
Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t mind if they nerfed the numbers on uppies and reduce its cd to 2 mins, and make the cdr talent into something that allows you to move while in the air. It would be nice to have a proper healing cd as disc
@ostschnaller
Ай бұрын
@@jeremyguzman7936 and make it instant
@Jdtv689
Ай бұрын
Got excited because of visuals but after testing it a bit decided to go MW - seems way more fun and more useful to the group.
@master4098
Ай бұрын
Seeing arcane get their current tier set in the tree when it doesnt give em anything but dmg, and disc getting rid off S3/4 set with nothing to show for feelsbad af
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
100%
@user-ri3ho1yh5p
29 күн бұрын
My two top specs 😅 no seriously after seeing these changes I just dipped out lol. I was like guess I just suck now. Uninstalled and canceled my sub. I have never done that with wow, ever. But I just felt like utter trash as Disc and it’s my favorite spec. I don’t enjoy the majority of dps I like to heal and rdruid was so tedious I gave it up at like level 20 something 😂. I liked arcane cuz it took a fuckin phd and I liked that in that a DPS. (I know I’m crazy) the most boring spec I ever played was ret pally in raids just spamming the five buttons…disc always required a type of future sight but now my atonement barely last and apotheosis with evangelism or whatever that extended was such a fun raid burst heal that me and pres evokes were wiping the floor on mechanics that should be insta death I went from lfr to running with mythic raiders in dragon flight and now I literally don’t what the fuck to do with myself lol
@alexhs3795
18 күн бұрын
I have always thought that it is ridiculous that the one healer which heals through damage does the least damage of all healers. I would love if they made disc priest high risk/high reward. Reduce the healing but make the damage insane, that would be cool. Having better teammates that don’t take as much damage and are able to avoid mechanics so you can pump as a healer.
@patatejambom6310
15 күн бұрын
i mean at this point why even bother playing a healer or call it a healer ? just go play a dps you wanna be healer lol. as an All time healer, i wish they remove the antonement mechanic all together and revert it to a real true healer, all the heal wasted into antonement is heal who is not into our flash heal renew, pom pos penance..ect
@shaso567
Ай бұрын
I think they're just kind of ok with the 4p being borderline useless cause the 2p is already really good and keeps up with some other spec's sets as a whole. but I agree it's dumb that it does borderline nothing. They reworked the pres one at least and it's just REALLY good now though, so idk. I think some class tree work would help a ton too. Also please un-nerf symbol of hope. I like back to back barkskins.
@johnthebarbarian
Ай бұрын
10/10 thumbnail
@sethhagen9240
Ай бұрын
Should discipline just go the way of Fistweaver or Hpal? Just make certain damage abilities contribute healing split among 5 targets. They've always had a hard time balancing Atonement healing.
@martinjanac2482
11 күн бұрын
Disco priest with oracle talents seems to be the most hard, complicated and unworthy spec for healing in m+. Challenge accepted :D I hope for season 2, they will consider to return the extension of active atonement by using dmg spells at least. As you said, now you feel either super strong, or super weak.
@danielfahimislam3166
Ай бұрын
Guess it’s Discs turn to be the new Holy Paladin cause we all know they need months-year to fix a spec that is clearly in a bad state..
@karlzone2
Ай бұрын
Doubt it. Disc has been in the meta for literally fifteen years.
@danielfahimislam3166
Ай бұрын
@@karlzone2 Im talking m+ forgot to make that clear
@TheOaxOaxOax
10 күн бұрын
Disc meta for years 😂😂 its always druid or pal
@Doozer72
Ай бұрын
What is the mini halo yellow circle coming out of all healers (not just priests) in all the beta footage?
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
weapon enchant
@zapzya
Ай бұрын
Disc feels awesome when it works, but honestly, I'm probably just gonna play archon holy priest. Instead of desperately trying to get mindbender off CD so I can actually heal whilst fighting to keep atonements up and juggling pain supps, it just looks really fun to blast out a halo and smash out holy words + flash heals. Plus the damage rotation is super fun now that chastise gives the two free holy fires.
@michaelwaffle7393
Ай бұрын
I feel like disc has always been the preempt damage to be taken with either shields or applying atonement and then healing any damage that does happen from the damage done by your spells It’s not been a reactive healing design like holy is where you heal back the damage taken. You preempt the damage that is going to be taken to reduce it by shields at the like and then actually heal as required after your shield is gone But with the design of the dungeons being so bursty recently it’s been muchhh harder to do that without making the spec realllly strong
@ralecgos3631
Ай бұрын
Disc Priest Atonment is a tedious mini-game-- remove the mechanic or extend the durations. Spamming Smite for CDR on Penance and Shadowfiend/Mindbender is boring and not creative design. Shadow Covenant was fine being its own spell. Making Shadow Covenant into Shadowfiend/Mindbender makes us feel like a pseudo-pet class, fiend/bender should have kept its identity as a mana button. The holy magic side is terribly undertuned and forgotten, we're forced into the shadow magic "ramp" side of the tree as our only viable option. Power Word: Shield and Divine Aegis shields are laughably weak. PW: Shield feels like a glorified Atonement spreader, using it for blocking damage is negligible. I miss when Disc Priest was more of a sustain healer and shields (not asking for OP shields here) actually felt like they did something. Priest in general has extremely limited utility and CC in comparison to every other class. Why is our most powerful CC a melee range fear (Psychic Scream)? Why is Void Tendrils also melee and so weak it's hardly ever taken, with a long cooldown as well? Shackle Undead is useless now-- this isn't WotLK with undead everywhere. Mass Dispel was made a longer CD unfairly due to dungeon design. Our base dispel only dispels Magic and Diseases. Shining Force was taken from us for "reasons" only to be given to Shaman in the PvE talent "Traveling Storms". Make it make sense. Priest mobility is some of the worst in the game with nothing to show for it except Body and Soul (sensory overload on your PW: Shields with sparkles and a loud sound effect) or Angelic Feathers which are so forgotten about and hard to see we just use them in a macro that places them directly under our feet.
@anneu3068
17 күн бұрын
So hard. Was shaman heal for many years. always glanced at disc but never put it up. shaman heal is life on easymode. with the new herotalents I hoped that disc will be more viable. but alone being the only one without a kick is veeery sickening... hope that disc will get some tweaks, still gonna play it in tww. I need some changes
@jonathanmoore6919
Ай бұрын
I might be alone on this, but I really miss the complexity of disc pre-10.2, it felt much more rewarding to play than it does now. I think Mind Blast should be its own thing again, with Shadow Covenant and Schism combined just to give a little more control and complexity back to the spec. Smite spam is so boring :/ Edit: And old Harsh Discipline!
@arcadialive4265
Ай бұрын
I got to be honest. After blizzard’s up and down “mood swings” for priest tuning I’m rolling another class in TWW.
@Spyger9
Ай бұрын
As if constantly squirreling around with Priest hasn't been their policy for... ever?
@arcadialive4265
Ай бұрын
@@Spyger9 I came back in legion where healing was perfect. It’s just been downhill since then minus some moments of BFA.
@CB38096
Ай бұрын
Considering they just gave rdruids big % healing buffs after the rdruid community has been complaining for weeks, I’m sure they will buff priest too before launch
@lassorb4752
Ай бұрын
@@arcadialive4265tbh… disc has been good in DF too
@RinaaaYa
Ай бұрын
And what will you reroll into? Rshaman was barely played in all of DF and just now is good. Rdruid was meta for like 3 seasons in DF and now its the worst healer. Hpal was unplayable for 2 seasons and just now is strong and its been receiving nerf after nerf. MW didnt even exist before S3. It's been 3 whole seasons without Prevoker until now... All healer tuning has been like this all DF. Blizz "moods swings" are real.
@KissimeeFL
Ай бұрын
Keep on Bliz about supplying disc players with a stun or silence. Disc hasn’t ever had one which is why I ran Belf expansions ago until they nerfed that racial.
@AlexanderForsman
Ай бұрын
Wouldn't spec:ing into more mastery solve the healing problem for Disc?
@thatepicwizardguy
Ай бұрын
I'll be real... I hate modern disc priest. It should be the king of mitigation not some weird blasty ramper. It's insanely hard to balance with the current overall design. The spec ends up being unbelievably insane or absolute dogwater and basically never lands between. Just make them shieldkings and enough with this other weird garbage.
@patatejambom6310
15 күн бұрын
bring back the old disc about shield renew and flash heal / pom and ofc good old penance. No dps heal bullshit.
@davidchen7773
Ай бұрын
they need to remove CDR on any healing CD. It will always have the issue of “I have to do X before this timing” which is terrible Just need to remove void summoner and the mindbender AOE talents. It has no place in a healing spec
@LoveOlsson98
Ай бұрын
9:25 the Klingons are actually from Star Trek
@rivyrooo5016
Ай бұрын
I've already known there would be a big issue with Disc, since the design we have atm is not built to last. Tier set doesn't last forever and it's the only thing that carries us right now. Feels bad, going from an unique playing healer through smite spammer reliant on bender uptime dumbed down version, to something absolutely not functioning. I guess we'll have a season or two of being unplayable, like at the start of DF, then they will do something about it, maybe.
@danny4fw
Ай бұрын
hey Jak , Snowless here I been watching you on and off since Legion times just wanted to say u were always such a great guy always ready to answer questions and really wholesome , WoW def needs more ppl like you , I quit at the end of shadowlands when Disc was kinda starting really drop off especially compared to early disc days so wanted to ask how is Disc doing right now in ur view and is it worth it to come back or its in an ever worse place ?
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
Hey thanks so much. I talk about the state of disc in the video here. Was there smth specific I missed?
@danny4fw
Ай бұрын
@@AutomaticJak I get that and I did watch the video and ofc the title says it all but my question was in general sorta like " how is disc right now compared to its old golden days " from the eyes of the disc king , reason I am asking is I am thinking of coming back but I really wanna play disc at a semi reasonable level (world 500 or so ) and just before I quit I really felt I was dragging the team down abit with disc and other specs would be better , maybe you answered that already in the video then its my bad
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
I think it’ll do really well in raids but be tough to operate. I’m pretty doomer about it in keys tho
@victuss1413
Ай бұрын
Remove atonement. All shielding and passive healing again
@AirwiseMechanical
Ай бұрын
they should rework the whole tree in oracle and make it a spirit shell/Absorption shield type of healing!
@tylerchapman8856
Ай бұрын
I thjnk it siuld be cool if atomements stacked.. so if u put a pws on someone thenthen renew it should inscrwase by the actual amount and not jjstvtefresh it to 10 seconds or w.e it is
@g0gool_
Ай бұрын
Jak Preacher
@cosmicz3ro
Ай бұрын
Paladin, unless/until neefed, seem to be the new dps healer. Disc lost its identity expansions ago. We're just... there.
@thatepicwizardguy
Ай бұрын
Disc priests should be the best damage mitigator in the game. THAT should be their identity.
@-Shawner
Ай бұрын
when did they listen.
@unknownsoldier452
Ай бұрын
Well, looks like it's gonna be Resto Shaman season!
@Cythren
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the upload and thumbnail is epic as always XD
@mebrandonb
Ай бұрын
Nice video Jak. Disc sounds like it needs a medic!
@user-vh8gm8yh6q
Ай бұрын
i wanna see a dev of disc playng a shuffle match
@Shalaena
Ай бұрын
Now when Blizz fixes it you can claim credit!
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
Ez dub
@001Elpato
Ай бұрын
I rly wish we would have insta radiances, I rly hate single apply atonement to each party member all the time and in M+ pug you cannot relay on people not taking dmg and take the risk to not have atonement on them. At least we can play holy and right now seems like better option in M+ pugs
@asyncerror
Ай бұрын
rip disc, gonna reroll to rdruid
@drumm24
Ай бұрын
A bit of a necro comment and definitely unpopular take, but I feel like most of the "issues" that people are complaining about with different classes/specs/builds conflict with the characters' core design. Disc Priests are proactive healers with a big build-up before they burst, so of course they're bad at reacting to unexpected situations. Same with Totem Shaman (reactive) vs Farseer (reactive), or those complaining that Preservation Evokers don't have max range when their core class design is a high mobility midrange character. With new content around the corner, proactive healers are naturally going to have a more difficult time vs reactive. It'd be cool to have a panic button or two to bail you out, but you can't seriously expect a proactive healer to have good reactive healing
@davidw.5984
Ай бұрын
Yea same for warlocks: class tree shit, no access to utility, a lot of pvp talents, etc.
@kanor13
Ай бұрын
Thumbnail going craaaaaaaaaazy
@Pokerit
Ай бұрын
Why do you have 4k available when your game footage isnt even 4k?
@AutomaticJak
Ай бұрын
Still makes the video quality better when rendering
@baseboned
Ай бұрын
is it in trouble because it's long awkward neck makes it prone to injury?
@Lyscian420
Ай бұрын
Seems like the kinda spec that is “literally playable” on launch sucks for the entire first season (maybe even second season too, depending on how good Holy is) and then they get a mid patch rework in 10.2.5 and the class is really good. I think patience is a virtue and you all should come join me and have a nice sit and drink some tea as we proselytize MW monk as the best healer. ;P
@fuzzysham88
Ай бұрын
I feel bad for Jak and his main. I've been an rsham/ele sham main since WotLK so I'm familiar with the downs and downs of your mains place in the meta
@Darkechodk
Ай бұрын
The problem with disc is other ability's. So if you get an affix or a situation requiring a dispell etc. You have to do damage to heal them after a radiance. Where as other heals can re focus on healing/dispels-affixs abilitys. Disc has damage/healing/dispels-affix. When other healing classes can stop damage and focus on healing Disc priest can not. The two radiance are really powerful but if you can't maintain health bars with minimal damage you do then you have to hit a second radiance while the other radiance atonements aren't even half way done.
@adizzle625
Ай бұрын
I sadly dont think this is just a tuning knob problem, I think the healing priest is in a bit of trouble as a whole. I do look forward to watching you make it look bonkers good. So here is to TWW and new content
@DechCJC
Ай бұрын
I could at least somewhat forgive the wonky number tuning if disc had any utility. There’s just no excuse for power infusion being literally the only reason to ever see a priest over another class.
@James_Johnson79
Ай бұрын
Ambient/background music is cranked a tad high.
@issacmorris60
Ай бұрын
Don't forget h priest had the highest 2 point nodes
@brandonveazie2543
Ай бұрын
sigh.... I was really hoping to be able to try Disc instead of constantly maining holy... this makes me sad
@deanbrandt4356
Ай бұрын
Disc being weak at the beginning of an expansion due to being so stat and borrowed power reliant? Shocker.
@user-vh8gm8yh6q
Ай бұрын
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@crazyphoenickss
Ай бұрын
I prefer luminous barrier over the other, I just don't have to point n click n hope people decide to stack in to it, just click it and forget it. I enjoy passive things more than I enjoy active things and having to set up a lot of stuff. Some setup is fine, I play mainly a Restoration Druid so I'm used to ramping, but it just gets super annoying with things like power word: barrier because I gotta hope people aren't gonna be lazy sleezebags and will go hop in to the barrier. In pugs that's almost not gonna happen. PW:B also doesn't count for anything on meters so using my big CD just doesn't do anything for me and in pugs, again, nobody cares to look, they just go based off of HPS numbers and boot me if they see me doing low HPS even with a very good barrier placement, etc. I will still be booted for not doing high HPS numbers because people never understand that healers are 100% the opposite of DPS. I don't necessarily find it fun DPS healing, imo I would prefer disco going back to being bubble boy and using a few heals here and there, but as a Resto Druid main that's insanely annoying to be competing with that on the meters and in the raid because even though we are all working together, the truth is we are all actually competing against each other, too, especially when it comes to pugs. That being said, though, I loved taking Contrition as a talent, but holy lord is it so weak. If they buffed it to be 200% of your spellpower instead of 9%, then that would be entirely fine. Each point would give you an additional 100% SP coefficient when healing people, and I believe it actually should double dip with Mastery and everything else, Atonement too. Like, how cool would it be to have something that makes Mastery for Disc actually very valuable as opposed to ehhh. Disc has a very good Mastery but because Mastery doesn't do anything for damage, it isn't cared for. Maybe if they redid some talents, like taking the "Ultimate Radiance" talent from the PvP section and putting it in place of TE.
@gabber_
Ай бұрын
Loved it when you complained about the Disc raid output and at the same time you blasted twice the HPS of the other healers in the video :D not trying to pick on you, just thought it was funny.
@weltonwilliams2286
Ай бұрын
Where did that happen? I saw him topping meters in one clip but not doubling.
@gabber_
Ай бұрын
@@weltonwilliams2286 2:45
@sunwavesonmars7588
11 күн бұрын
Shaman it is
@josecapel3468
Ай бұрын
you're right. years like this and they don't change. They know it...nerf, nerf, nerf...pfff...a disaster
@MrMrbambus
Ай бұрын
So, yeah, all 3 priest speccs atm, sucks ass. Perfect main I have
@kernel2006
29 күн бұрын
It’s disappointing that the first big exciting new spell they added to disc in years (uppies) feels like such dogshit to use 😔
@TheSometimeAfter
Ай бұрын
All healers are in trouble. Game has gone down hill rapidly
@Gumblethebear
Ай бұрын
Lots of specs are in trouble. Unless you’re a mage or lock Blizzard couldn’t care less
@vanguelisk
Ай бұрын
And how is holy priest?
@jbarlak
Ай бұрын
In disc we trust
@Unitos_
Ай бұрын
I'm getting REALLY annoyed that class redesigns are not getting enough alpha/beta iterations to improve EVERY spec. This concepts of 3-6 specs getting almost nothing improved, and are expected to wait to the 0.5 or x0.1 patch to get improvements is not OK anymore.
@MrDfix1988
Ай бұрын
Disc is the only healing spec I really enjoy. Until it's fixed I'll play shadow.
@Jlaz81
Ай бұрын
Screw it, just rework it into a support class like Aug
@ivo_picha
Ай бұрын
good luck with getting invited to m+ then
@FeralKobold
Ай бұрын
at least holy has chastise to help with CC more often/more reliably but god the things I would do for an actual kick and MORE MOVEMENT, feather is not enough these days, we are SO SLOW. But yeah disc feels terrible lmao, bad output, bad dps, lacks utility. I mean holy lacks utility too and we don't even get like pain sup or barrier (I'm so mad about it lmao give me an external PLEASE) but disc just feels bad to play in high keys. It feels like you're fighting the class to make it do what you need it to do
@CAPSLOCKING
Ай бұрын
Clearly Blizzard is just telling Priests to use Mind Control as a stop. 🙃
@Rhanyra
Ай бұрын
what does priest bring to the table? a stamina buff. =D
@C.Krisztián
Ай бұрын
Just remowe atomoment and Deák dmg= heal like monk 💪😎
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