I like bwipos perspective, but i really appreciate how Tarzaned let him get his ideas out and not cutting him off. Great dialogue.
@Andrew-rx2bx
11 ай бұрын
This is called a conversation
@timmy_team_6285
11 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-rx2bx Something that doesnt happen too often when snowflakes get upset about the said conversation. They cut in and cut off.
@andrewbyrnes6389
11 ай бұрын
It’s cool that Jordan Peterson is getting into league and having these discussions with tarzaned
@dirtydard4870
9 ай бұрын
@razmuzsbaker1642 Nothing strange about fundamental concepts being understood by different people
@IzzyTraps
11 ай бұрын
im digging the tarzaned learning arc
@tacqo
11 ай бұрын
He is the KING of the Jungle
@MglPimentel
11 ай бұрын
funny how this match in the video describe perfectly everything bwipo was talking about junglers having the most impact in the game, still depending on their teams to do something about it. viego not being able to play at all but in the other hand bard being such a fucking pain in the ass ruining graves' game because support is broken.
@hate6469
11 ай бұрын
At the end of the day sup and jg are the most impactful roles and both deserve to have great power. But there is suppose to be a risk in my opinion. Jg if ur behind ur fucked straight up unless ur team perma rotates and plays for you to get back into the game. But if you’re behind on sup, you just roam. This video was about jg being broken/weak. But I truly think sup needs nerf
@numedeutilizator0043
11 ай бұрын
@@hate6469support is balanced by the fact that support mains fucking suck
@christheophilus7154
11 ай бұрын
@@hate6469 These are FACTS. Support is way too impactful for people to be playing it willy nilly. A bad support is game ruining team-wide (no vision, no peel, no disengage, no sustain) yet people still pick the role trying to play like a lowecon midlaner.
@kmiogreen6715
11 ай бұрын
Allways loved bwipo authenticity, "i think you're a really good player and i didnt have a good opinion of you" it's said in such a genuine fashion and without malice it actually doesnt hurt ^^ wish he had more youtube vidz
@PyrusnVentus
11 ай бұрын
This is so typical bwipo, says he's gonna head out and then talks for another 10 minutes. When you get him to start talking about League he just won't stop.
@goticogordo
11 ай бұрын
he is such a good talker, its insane how good he is at explaining his thoughts and even while playing he can do it all, he truly is built different
@kevinfang8600
11 ай бұрын
@@goticogordo I feel like Bwipo is easily top 5 smartest people in league scene
@resiliated9326
11 ай бұрын
@@kevinfang8600top 5 most autistic for sure
@soul0172
11 ай бұрын
he has ADHD and doesn't take medication for it so it's pretty normal
@oliversotir3914
11 ай бұрын
@@kevinfang8600 Agreed. He has very good understanding of the game.
@Commentpeon
11 ай бұрын
Bro we need one of these na teams to pick up tarz and bwipo. Tarz can save na league while bwipo is his therapist. Respect to u both for having a nuanced conversation
@2SiKPr3daT0rZ
11 ай бұрын
@@brodudeman9390yeah I agree I don’t think he could be part of a team
@onetakehoovie5955
11 ай бұрын
Tarzaned in pro is just Dardoch 2.0
@einjharrelraca
11 ай бұрын
Im currently a mid masters scrub jungler and the way i see it is this. Jungle decides who gets to carry the game, but they themselves cannot. Your role currently is figuring out which of the 3 chimps on your team is most likely to have the largest impact in the game, and then pouring resources into them.
@spiceekimchee931
11 ай бұрын
Amazing video. I love hearing them both respect each other and talk like adults. You could really tell how smart each are and how much they know about the game
@francesthemute9486
11 ай бұрын
Tarzaned X Jordan peterson is quite possibly the most ambitious crossover of this century.
@kuse4280
11 ай бұрын
Tldr: Tarzaned was discussing how jungle is so team reliant to carry a game plus using a carrying type jungler is even detrimental because the meta that the game currently had is played around to support the adc resulting that jungle is kinda weak compare to laners
@droid5785
11 ай бұрын
your TLDR only includes tarz POV? i dont get it lol
@vivekkrishna340
11 ай бұрын
Giga chad Bwipo teaching all players. "You making the best decisions should be your reward". Unbelievably based
@zasca1315
11 ай бұрын
39:55 the mixture of this conversation and the gameplay is goofy AS FUCK LMFAO
@jacob5373
11 ай бұрын
Wow. One hell of a compliment paid by Biwpo at the 10:30 mark. Well deserved.
@cxstarfan
11 ай бұрын
you getting coached or like talking to pros is really great content
@andreszavala3516
11 ай бұрын
so bwipos pov is "i hated it too. i despised it, but ur seeing it all wrong bud, just be a meta slave".. LOL nice
@lemmewangbro9829
11 ай бұрын
He agrees but he's realistic and realises there's nothing u can do to change it
@molorhaym
11 ай бұрын
Support is the most broken role in the game hands down. Jungle can have the potential to be just a broken but there's the asterisk of *Team not following roams into jungle, thus making jungle useless* So it can either be the most broken role or the worst role.
@YoriYoiHitotachi
11 ай бұрын
Lanes need to listen when they talk about supporting the jg. I can very angry in my games when I'm constantly having to give up position and objs because people don't show up. And there is a direct correlation between helping the jg do the team oriented stuff to winning the game.
@Alex-nu5wd
11 ай бұрын
Love Bwipo man, I’m glad I watched this video
@aminentela6525
11 ай бұрын
Poor viego xd
@altanatmac9896
11 ай бұрын
He penta solo win'd last fight
@imagerivals8310
11 ай бұрын
i love how tarz immediately called bwipo bud right after learning he was 4 years older lol
@frentex7348
11 ай бұрын
Dope video
@hughesga1745
11 ай бұрын
You can tell just how much respect tarzaned has for bwipo here
@noaffiliation-x8w
11 ай бұрын
I also think solo que laners need to take a more active approach. I think for so long laners have been taught to just farm safe, wait for the opponent to fuck up and they climb, but most games I’ve won, I understood the strengths of my junglers champion. If I knew that my jungler was someone mechanically adept and was playing a skirmish heavy champion, as soon as I see him moving into invade I shove my wave and follow. I know that’s not everyone’s play style, and I’m not saying blindly follow, but recognise that actually, x & y champ between lvl 3-5, might be a lot stronger than you think.
@JosephAlnasl
11 ай бұрын
I need dr. zaned to examinate my prostat
@dinammir4986
5 ай бұрын
@7:10 Holy hell that aged well... here I am in S 14 support kingdom
@jamesdeluxa9782
11 ай бұрын
Jordan Bwipo Peterson DIAGNOSIS to the ZANED.
@chamloman
11 ай бұрын
i love bwipo so much hes so down to rift
@resentfusion5634
11 ай бұрын
im in pisslow but jg def feels diff then it did in s7 when I started. It's either I giga carry or enemy mid and supp perma invade.
@angelfury8182
11 ай бұрын
I honestly blame mythic items for a lot of league's issues. Once they are gone, things will be much better. Love you Tarz
@Genevagirls-h2x
11 ай бұрын
"i dont think winning or losing is something you can influence enough" Thank you.
@leonsixt2744
11 ай бұрын
Great video. From gameplay to the conversation good job, keep it up
@hjy285
11 ай бұрын
tarzaned big rage jungle diff monester
@nikpoe4057
9 ай бұрын
I feel like thats also majorly due to lack of duo Q high elo as well, you dont have sm1 else dependable on your team
@josetojoestar7533
11 ай бұрын
My man, you can't compare toplane strenght to jungle strenght. Just because you cleared your camps perfectly on time and have kills, doesn't mean you should 1v1 the toplaner. You can affect any other lane easily, even enemy jungle, and top can only pressure top and topside jg early in the game.
@lobertrox72
11 ай бұрын
so i cant 1v1 the toplaner even when i have a lead just because he went top and has 3 levels on me as 0/0/0
@whoasked5746
11 ай бұрын
never heard tarz being that respectfull of anyone in VC ngl
@thatoneguy24241
11 ай бұрын
Tardys a rising star!!❤
@hanson708
11 ай бұрын
I agree with bwipo mostly like yes the game is unbalanced but it's fair. Forget support being able to roam with the same xp think about if jungle was rolling around with the same xp as mid lane. Also I'd add that many players have picked up on taking enemy jungle camps to prevent the jungle from making any impact. It's become meta to always do this.
@theonewind
11 ай бұрын
Why is this game as long as the call lmao
@JesseTheGameDev
9 ай бұрын
Lots of contradicting things were said about which role is the easiest. They both kind of said support is the easiest role, but also that jungle is an extremely easy role, but thirdly that jungle is hard... Lol. And throughout also implied that bot/adc is an easy role?? If every role is easy, then none of them are...?
@mindsprawl
11 ай бұрын
there disscussing jungle while Graves bruttaly invades viego jesus christ.
@ninocraft1
11 ай бұрын
I LEARNER SO MUCH WTF, pls do more in depth discussion with people who have brains for league
@alienpoop_gaming6855
9 ай бұрын
i think riot sees it this way... You cant have everything in one role. You can't have all the influence in the game and be one of the most powerful players in the game. THAT would be OP
@lLiquid
11 ай бұрын
That was actually great.
@CAT12997
11 ай бұрын
The briar named “Kirby with hair” is Pekinwoof btw if anyone didn’t know
@Jpixta
11 ай бұрын
Where is the game they are speaking of?
@melovepeas
11 ай бұрын
Tarzaned getting therapy LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
@kaisubi
11 ай бұрын
you cant be an influence to those who dont accept it translation: he’s the hero gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now
@Pastelbluesox
11 ай бұрын
Good content right here
@zasca1315
11 ай бұрын
I loved this
@Nichtinsgesicht92
11 ай бұрын
verry wholsome ending btw
@Zyrxne
11 ай бұрын
So the jungler being so important to make plays only matters when the jungler has no game knowledge and basically does the path through midlane when top is full pushed to counter jungle the enemy blue then gank bot under their turret. So league needs a jungler tutorial.
@Monotheist137
11 ай бұрын
Nice tarzaned nicest person ever heard, mean tarzaned is al quada.
@jacobmorris3295
11 ай бұрын
This is so cute to watch lol
@EMVOO
11 ай бұрын
i feel bad for that viego
@AA-ze4pn
11 ай бұрын
Holy real recognize real
@julianthegreat4995
11 ай бұрын
Man, bwipo is something else
@nicholasborgardt976
11 ай бұрын
tarzaned goes for the absolute extremes and makes it that's the reason he looses
@evenjesuscantsaveyouanymor6163
11 ай бұрын
Sure bud
@elijahrowand853
11 ай бұрын
Jaymo?
@ArtyAnikey
8 ай бұрын
I actually agree that Riot is doing so much to not allow people solo carry games. And that's because they are bad people. Really Riot sux. They've started so strong with LoL but now it's just money generator for them. It doesn't really matter if you enjoy the game any more. And they will pay for that once LoL-like game is released which has all the Riot mistakes fixed. Very simple.
@ragnarlothbrok5354
11 ай бұрын
try stridebreaker graves. It's stronger than crit graves in the lategame imo. Youre tanky af and if youre building ad youre still oneshotting everyone.
@blankwords8912
11 ай бұрын
that links guy is such a terrorist, every time i get him he runs it down lmao
@jakublukas3676
11 ай бұрын
also, i have no idea how is it allowed for adc to be such a support victim role.
@gnaix9623
11 ай бұрын
phreak needs to learn from bwipo, maybe he'll get out of diamond instead of thinking junglers can gank is overpowered
@REVOMusicSounds
11 ай бұрын
Nice
@bonniebonster
11 ай бұрын
hi
@Genevagirls-h2x
11 ай бұрын
Ive always loved hearing Bwipos takes on the game.
@georgidimitrov8571
11 ай бұрын
So I had games were ,my mid and top will help me for herald ,protect my jungle ,botlane come for drake ,when I make play in enemy jungle top/mid come with me ,and we have soul we have heralds ... And there is one of those games where we kill'em in there jungle min 6/7 and than they just recall and leave me alone with the drake ,than everybody comes and kill me or take the drake or I smite the drake but I die for it than my jungle is gone anyway that doesnt matter much does it when its bronze...probably when I reach higher elo should comment this
@MaineOneV1
11 ай бұрын
if they leave you alone that mean you dont do it
@georgidimitrov8571
11 ай бұрын
@@MaineOneV1 But I'm doing it
@numedeutilizator0043
11 ай бұрын
@@MaineOneV1nah bro if its the right call and right time to do it your botlane should listen to you and do it. If they have a wave crash under enemy turret and afk bot or recll for no reason instead of securing drake its their fault
@MaineOneV1
11 ай бұрын
its just first drake no need to destroy tempo for a coinflip play since teammates are not listening.@@numedeutilizator0043
@Malgorithm97
11 ай бұрын
This is why you're bronze. If your bot lane recalls and doesn't help you with dragon, you don't just do it anyway. Yes it's probably their fault for not helping you with drake but it's then your fault for committing to a losing play
@0_0oweee4
11 ай бұрын
why he talk like jordan peterson lol
@NewtBush
11 ай бұрын
Great video
@hk-kz5ls
11 ай бұрын
bwipo is just so chill lmao
@Andersson1337
6 ай бұрын
Bwipo 5head
@MoshingMachine1
11 ай бұрын
Loved Bwipos opinion. Tarzaned is annoying though.
@Monotheist137
11 ай бұрын
But 13 season sucks, in terms of watching pro play. Worst season since season 7.
@jesseperez4185
11 ай бұрын
The top lane, while undeniably possessing the potential for carrying, as exemplified by the achievement of securing the rank of number one, is nonetheless plagued by a pervasive issue articulated by the astute Bwimpo. The majority of its denizens exhibit a lamentable inadequacy in their respective roles, failing to approach the pinnacle of perfection and optimization. They display a conspicuous reluctance in capitalizing on their adversaries' errors and are prone to squandering their early advantages. During my foray through the platitudes of lower ranks, it became abundantly clear that competence was a scarce commodity. More often than not, these players falter in their performance, either succumbing to a barrage of deaths or merely managing to maintain parity in their lane, subsequently resorting to the age-old tradition of casting blame upon their teammates. It is in light of these observations that I find myself adopting a rather brazen demeanor towards my adversaries in the realm of lower elo.
@ZimZombi
11 ай бұрын
ahahahahahaha tarzaned vs a pisslow leauge socialist nerd. lets fkn go. yet another time tarzaned gets out on the top
@pappmaulhobbit2823
11 ай бұрын
Socialist nerd? Lololol
@erzide3142
11 ай бұрын
nigga hes played in lcs 😭
@ZimZombi
11 ай бұрын
@@pappmaulhobbit2823 lol yup
@ZimZombi
11 ай бұрын
dont care loool, tarzaned is the GOAT NQQA@@erzide3142
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