Which is it for you? Ferrari or Porsche? LET US KNOW 👇
@Vampirebear13
4 жыл бұрын
Porsche. I'm probably about the age of your Dad, Carl & have driven nearly every brand of car made & there's just NOTHING like the drive & feeling of connectedness of any 911. Plus 911's are the "everyday supercar". They're massively reliable & less expensive to maintain, while Ferrari's are "art cars". Leave them in the garage & look at them, because they brake down easily & every mile they're driven, they lose value. My favorite Ferrari memory though is, flying in a Testarossa & listening to that fabulous Flat 12. With that car, I didn't need a stereo. All things considered, if I could afford it, I'd like to have a 488 Spyder as my "special occasion" car.
@dlhussain81
4 жыл бұрын
TheSUPERCARDRIVER Porsche... shoddy build quality of Ferrari put me off for a lifetime.
@DoWorkExotics
4 жыл бұрын
I truly don’t find them comparable. Hand built exotic vs. German mass produced vehicle. No comparison.
@dlhussain81
4 жыл бұрын
DOWORK EXOTICS fair point, although if you call Porsche mass produced what does that say about BMW/Mercedes/Audi. Give me a Lamborghini over a Ferrari any day
@DoWorkExotics
4 жыл бұрын
DLH I mean Porsches are mass produced. My wife daily’s one. GT Porsche sell almost more than Carreras and S models. They are a dime a dozen anymore. Lamborghinis are still more exclusive than a Porsche. I’d take an Aventador but not the R8, I mean Huracan. Nothing “special” about it sadly. It’s an Audi.
@Cal93
4 жыл бұрын
Could honestly listen to Carl talk about cars all day every day
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more 🏁
@Dhhcnkk
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’re in love mate.
@CheersDits2979
4 жыл бұрын
HA Gayyyyyyyyyyyy!
@simonsk659
3 жыл бұрын
xD
@markwood7045
3 жыл бұрын
@@CheersDits2979 wow the internet never fails to give...CLOWN
@gentnextdoor
4 жыл бұрын
Porsche vs Ferrari, Mercedes vs Ferrari, Ford vs Ferrari, McLaren vs Ferrari, Lamborghini vs Ferrari..... I think we know who’s the Daddy.
@hilmanfirgiansyah9728
Жыл бұрын
Yes Ferrari is The KING 💪
@mg-by7uu
Жыл бұрын
@@hilmanfirgiansyah9728 Was*. They don't make real Ferraris anymore. Just boring hybrids and turbos and now 🤮 SUV's. But man that V12 can sing
@johnnyboy1586
Жыл бұрын
Porsche if you really want to use it😊
@johnnyboy1586
7 ай бұрын
Why then is every sports car measured against the 911
@onlyfacts3502
Ай бұрын
@@johnnyboy1586 Thank you. Porsche is king.
@timgoodman9766
4 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely fascinating insight into the market. Real engaging viewing which is so rare in the KZitem scene at the moment. Bravo chaps 👏🏻
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
Why thank you Tim! High praise
@Dhhcnkk
4 жыл бұрын
Stop being pessimistic and dismissive Tim. No need. Nothing positive to say than say nothing. Rude.
@AErealm
4 жыл бұрын
impressive. I appreciate your obvious experience and point of view. You didn't comment on the Porsche 918. What do you feel are its strengths against the P1 and LaFerrari and what are its short comings? I personally think it is the most timeless design of the 3
@tom_mortensen
4 жыл бұрын
The guy is in love with Ferrari. This is not a debate comparing two car brands.
@stemcleeds
4 жыл бұрын
Nice guy, liked his honesty, I'd buy from Carl.
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
He’s a great guy and knows the market inside out 🏁
@jamesm3060
4 жыл бұрын
Didn't he recently get a criminal conviction and suspended sentence for fleeing the scene of an accident caused by him road racing someone else (presumably because he was boozed up)?
@stemcleeds
4 жыл бұрын
Bahahahaha. Really? I take it back.
@Leowavekid
4 жыл бұрын
Porsche Hands Down!
@kings3803
4 жыл бұрын
The 812 SF that Hartley have is just an amazing colour.
@Dhhcnkk
4 жыл бұрын
steven king King buy it
@kings3803
3 жыл бұрын
@@Dhhcnkk I wish
@geoffclarke8934
4 жыл бұрын
The F50 & Carerra GT my two favourite supercars.
@theraggededgeonboardfastes8461
4 жыл бұрын
The carrera gt is Walter rohr least favorite Porsche ever built but you could say he's partial to rear-engined carreras
@rocketing47
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the most pertinent question is which is the safest to crash in on public roads. Mr Hartley seems to be experienced in this !!
@davidtrice8307
4 жыл бұрын
That yellow Ferrari is lovley 🔥🔥
@malp6280
4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see what happens in 5yrs time when more information is known in regards to ECO friendly cars & fossil fuels coming to an end or very limited production... how would that effect car values..
@ashs1670
4 жыл бұрын
Very interested in this also
@malp6280
4 жыл бұрын
@@ashs1670 a recent story has stated "these are offical aswell" london 2021 is having a massive restriction put inplace covering 8-18miles wide from the current congestion zone their banning cars older then 2016, a daily charge of £12.50 is going to be charged every day covering 24hrs a day. this doesn't cover electric/green cars, cars over 40yrs old are also not effected. by 2030-2035 the UK is going to be fossil fuel free so no petrol/diesel fuel will be sold, I cant remember if hybrid vehicles will also be banned for full GREEN vehicles.. So ppl with petrol/diesel engined cars are buggered & those spending millions on supercars.. well they'll be worthless as there's going to be no fuel to power them. the only option would be converting to full electric power OR doing a hydrogen conversion, of which theirs no private nationwide company doing such conversions.. only newly build vehicles such as buses & some trial vehicles are currently under development.. however such production numbers are increasing as is production of hydrogen fuels... now ppl have a £20M Mclaren F1 what's it worth when its fuel less & requires modification's to operate, even older-classic vehicles would require massive engine work OR replacement to run in the future so their driving characteristics will change & such mods would ultimately effect the values... dealers & manufacturers arent really speaking much about official government plans. I'm pretty sure Europe have also similar plans for similar periods as originally plans we're for 2050 however with current global warming events.. plans have been moved forward. "this can be search & verified as its REALLY going to occur"
@noahmatthew6658
3 жыл бұрын
It’s sad government restrictions are going to put these cars to an end. No matter how fast an electric car is you can’t match a great engine noise
@johnoibenjamin5630
3 жыл бұрын
A Ferrari is much prettier but Porsche is much better car.
@davidbrett2117
4 жыл бұрын
There are a lot more than 1000 GT2 RS’s made. Yes the UK only got 100 but our allocation was limited because the factory had to stop making EU cars because of new emissions regulations. I’ve seen numbers quoted of 2500 cars built.. There are confirmed numbers of more than 1,000 cars just in the US....so a lot more 1,000 total. Almost definitely more GT2 RS than Speedster’s made.
@ewangtr
4 жыл бұрын
This is very true. Manufacturers have been doing this for years. Rumours ferrari did it with the laferrari and especially the tdf. Special production for special clients etc etc.
@thejonathanrath
3 жыл бұрын
Whoever bought that blue TDF is a lucky bloke. Incredible spec, amazing car.
@richboy900
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic. I think those who are new to the supercar lifestyle would go with the Ferrari. For the fortunate few who have owned many, they'd go with the Porsche as it's easier to live with on a daily basis. Personally I'd prefer Ferrari and the F50 is my favourite car also
@stemcleeds
4 жыл бұрын
Why is the main camera so blurred compared to the side shoot camera? Annoys me
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
Ermmmm
@Wooooosaaaaaa
3 жыл бұрын
This guy needs his own channel
@dnice362
4 жыл бұрын
Love that you picked the SVJ
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
🏁🏁
@TheLambo123254
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for this :)
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@gamerscockpit
4 жыл бұрын
A good bloke, genuine, likeable and knows his stuff very, very well.
@Shelby-pp9jj
4 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy I got rid off my pista last summer
@DanyCesc83
3 жыл бұрын
Is for that very reason that I won't buy a new Ferrari and Mclaren has been pulling that crap too here in CA lol I understand Ferrari asking for that type of loyalty but not Mclaren. I personally love Porsche more than Ferrari aside from a few cars they have that I will probably buy at some point, for now, I'm happy with my current stock and slowly I'm starting to shift towards older cars now.
@SuperLaviathon
4 жыл бұрын
SUCH A GOOD VIDEO!! the man is a legend
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr Right 🏁
@markwood7045
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't describe someone who has been convicted for racing on a public road and endangering lives a 'legend'. He has enough money to go to a racetrack if he wants to race.
@SuperLaviathon
3 жыл бұрын
@@markwood7045 Envy isn’t good 😌
@markwood7045
3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperLaviathon you have got to be kidding me?! I don't envy anything about his life. I have made my money the way I have made it, he has made his. I drive things that make me happy, as does he. The difference is I don't recklessly endanger people. I don't have to be 'envious' to point out facts. I didn't take the risks. He did.
@GTSCarLife
4 жыл бұрын
I believe they only made 2 993 Speedsters, one for Jerry Seinfeld and one for Mr. Porsche. The 964 was the last volume Speedster aside from the 2 special 993 examples. Love your channel, and this episode!
@dlhussain81
4 жыл бұрын
Super informative, thank you Mr Hartley. Can you enlighten me on how many Performante Coupes were made?
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
Good question! Thousands
@dlhussain81
4 жыл бұрын
TheSUPERCARDRIVER two or ten? 🤔
@ryan5983
4 жыл бұрын
993 Turbo S my absolute dream car.
@leonmagee3516
4 жыл бұрын
Thought he'd have said 993 GT2. Now they are the daddy.
@ryan5983
4 жыл бұрын
@@leonmagee3516 agreed...but imo the 993 is timeless. I'd have a 993 Turbo S over at GT2 any day of the week
@letsrollout7307
4 жыл бұрын
He spoke about my favorite and next car 🥳🥳🥳 The 812 . Love that missile .
@chartreusenematoad9451
4 жыл бұрын
always enjoy a carl hartly video !
@anthonymarshall8826
4 жыл бұрын
Great video Carl. Always enjoy listening to you talk cars. Cheers, Steve
@peterADL
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I could listen to it even longer! And nice work with camera.
@ektrolleyboy
4 жыл бұрын
I think he meant 964 Speedster... There were a few 993’s, but they were factory/family cars. The one’s around are conversions...
@animizetv7726
3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos, Carls knowledge on the super car market is always fascinating to listen to, can we please have more videos!
@jameschaves5723
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! Would love to hear him talk about F40, 959 and F1
@marcusrichardson2955
4 жыл бұрын
which is best from the passenger seat Carl
@steffydog
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Carl, good to look back on.
@YusufEbr
3 жыл бұрын
Just got sold on his passion and insight alone. It would be a bit of a stretch but a few videos of the man driving and doing a review or just going at it with MrJWW again but on the road.
@mcfreedom10
4 жыл бұрын
Have you not seen the pictures of Jonty Bonty taking off in his Exige........I wouldn’t let him loose with my ratio controlled car 😂
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@ItsTwigs
4 жыл бұрын
Had to turn it off when he said Porshhhhh
@TIfosiZ
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear why f50? :)
@ACERASPIRE1
4 жыл бұрын
A simple analogy; One you buy with your heart and eyes, one you buy with your brain. they're like night and day.
@jf6853
4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Thanks
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@bubba3killa19
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and nice cars!
@marcelo1810
4 жыл бұрын
Porsche never made a 993 Speedster Officialy, but rumors say they made only 2. So, not 50. Also 599 GTO won't go up 20% in 18 mo. That's your guess, but it won't. 1200 of the 997 GT2 were only made. And it's very well known that the new Ferrari V8s always outshine the previous Special Ferrari V8. Ferrari 430 > Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale. Ferrari 458 > Ferrari 430 Scuderia. Ferrari 488 > Ferrari 458 Speciale Ferrari F8 > Ferrari 488 Pista All in all I know you want to sell cars Mate. But need to get your facts correct. You're a great lad, love your passion, and the way you sell. You're always closing on deals, true salesman. Also get the 991.2 GT3 RS Weissach it'll retain its value as Here are the numbers from Rennlist forums. 2019 Speedster - 700 18/19 GT2RS - 1,330 2019 GT3RS - 1,750 18/19 GT3 - 3,230 2016 911R - 325 2016 GT3RS - 1,530
@dav4_b
4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that 👍
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@hlynurstefansson9947
4 жыл бұрын
The problem with Ferrari is that they went public, so now they are launching a bunch of new models and accounting has taken over engineering. Porsche are always technically astonishing but they lack the passion for me with the exception of the Carrera GT.
@PapaG603
4 жыл бұрын
Great video seems like a person you would want to buy a car from so I think he did his job n you guys did yours great video
@y0057
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information. Thanks
@joeteasley155
Жыл бұрын
Both.
@TBATTIECYCLING
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always
@Michael-yz4mc
4 жыл бұрын
Very simple for me. Ferrari = heart and Porsche = mind.
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the arrogance of Ferrari. I’ve got a good buddy who as we speak has a McLaren 720s, aventador, GT3 touring, 997.2 GT3, GT4, a lotus Evora 410 sport, exige track car, Elise track car and lotus GT4 race car (Races Lotus cup). He can’t walk into a Ferrari dealer because he has never purchased a Ferrari and has no allocation history yet McLaren let’s him borrow a 675LT for a few days because they are practically begging him to buy one. Says a lot about who Ferrari wants to drive their cars. Go listen to Chris Harris on the BS they pull.
@mikesbikestoyswalkley2232
2 жыл бұрын
Porsche for me . I have never owned a Ferrari but have driven a few. Owned 4 Porsche's and am also old enough to be your Dad. Think there is a theme here!
@davem7798
4 жыл бұрын
'A car isn't really special if they made over 1000 of them' F40 not special then? Shame he wasn't asked what he thought of the AMG GTR Black Series and what that will be like in terms of values when they hit the market. I also slightly disagree with him about the 991 Speedster. Despite numbers I think that will be a very sought after car in a few years time. Amazing engine in a beautiful and useable convertible road car. I'd have one over a GT2RS.
@mattevans4377
4 жыл бұрын
I think the SF90 will make more sense, when they update the entire lineup. The normal V8s will get replaced with hybrid V6s, and the V12s will be killed off, with maybe one more super special edition, like say, the F80.
@steve0504
11 ай бұрын
The “electric car” craze is a phase that WILL die a FAD, once the ‘GLOBAL WARMING’ scam/grift is exposed for the lie/hysterics that it is. The ONLY idiots falling for the global warming LIE are, as usual, the dumb/gullible Western (white) countries. All the other countries are not concerned with the global warming grift and could not care less about all the PC nonsense Western Leftists are WHINING about this week… The Environmental movement is the latest new home of the Communist Party. Once all the dummies wake up to the lies the PAID OFF “Scientists” are scaring school children with, there WILL be a return to COMMON SENSE, and this idiotic Environmental GRIFT will be history.
@taimurkoi
4 жыл бұрын
I like how he always goes for the Lamborgini
@DwainDwight
4 жыл бұрын
no debate. get one of each, or two each etc... :)
@thedudeabides1443
4 жыл бұрын
If you are going to do this video PLEASE learn how to pronounce Porsche correctly. Otherwise, very good comparison.
@johnwalker656
3 жыл бұрын
Thought a top dealer would know how to pronounce Porsche properly.
@spiderdog762
4 жыл бұрын
Which one to choose; surely the biggest First World Question, sadly for me its pretty academic; shit, I would have a couple of each !!
@costasgeorgiou5015
3 жыл бұрын
Where is lambo in this? Stats?
@amanj87
3 жыл бұрын
Let me end the debate for you then. Porsche is the most successful brand in motorsports history. Ferrari break easily and never challenge Porsche on track race they make the world believe they don't need to reveal their track time because it'd embarrass their competition. Yeah of course, Le Mans is perfect proof that Porsche can easily end their legacy.
@lubin2764
3 жыл бұрын
10:25 so the F40 is not so special ?
@davpkav1
4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone informed Jonty he has an open invite to drive an F50....?
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
He’s aware sadly 😂
@AD-mq8ny
4 жыл бұрын
Ferrari #1....love Porsche though
@udistoller6757
2 жыл бұрын
911KING OF TRACK AND MUCH MORE RELIABLE👑 Ferrari amazing sound and more unique
@josephjewellers
4 жыл бұрын
Ferrari
@michaelrussell2593
2 жыл бұрын
SF90 is the fastest lap Ferrari. Even beats the La Ferrari. La Ferrari is more art than performance making it collectible as work of art in a museum. SF90 is more performance that says drive the hell out of me and I'll beat everything else on the road.
@FOVKRO
4 жыл бұрын
Nice watch
@Giudipeppe83
4 жыл бұрын
Ferrari.
@jackyou3145
4 жыл бұрын
What debate?
@brianmogle1121
4 жыл бұрын
It's "Porsche" NOT Porsch! Would you appreciate someone using your last name calling you Hart instead of Hartley?
@SZUSEast1
4 жыл бұрын
there is no debate its Porsche all day!
@IWarwickI
4 жыл бұрын
To many ads, ads to soon into the video @1:30
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
Noted, thanks for heads up
@mattyp3119
4 жыл бұрын
24:34 in realizing the title was clickbait and there's no debate coming.
@GTSCarLife
4 жыл бұрын
PORSCHE is the MUCH better car. Ferrari is the easier car to drive flat out on track. Until it breaks.
@christianparauan
Ай бұрын
They shouldn't be in the same category!
@mikeowen1819
4 жыл бұрын
really good interview, but anyone else annoyed by the different camera quality between head-on and side-on? Please put your 4k camera head-on if that's your main point of reference. ;-)
@misterbotanica
2 жыл бұрын
Walter Röhrl could do it in 3.0 😉
@Orcawhale1
4 жыл бұрын
How on earth can you deal Porsche's and not get the name right, lol. Also, how is that special argument working on a F40? With 1300 produced?
@davem7798
4 жыл бұрын
As soon as he said that I thought 'hello? F40?' Lol.
@supercarsofsicily1488
4 жыл бұрын
SVJ all day, the true supercar between the 3
@paullacey2999
4 жыл бұрын
Nope.Too big and clunky...
@MrSpencely
4 жыл бұрын
Well I didn't think he likes Ferraris as he runs away from those!
@miketheman4341
3 жыл бұрын
The big difference being that people drive Porsche!! His argument is that Ferrari makes less sense!
@edwill1595
4 жыл бұрын
Ferrari is a posers car... Porsche is a drivers car
@johnoibenjamin5630
3 жыл бұрын
Good summary couldn't said it better fact Porsche hands down
@Serpent947
2 жыл бұрын
So glad Ferrari are losing exclusivity. I would love to own one.
@khakimmalekov
Жыл бұрын
Porsche here
@DanThomas1161
4 жыл бұрын
No talk about Mclaren, how come?
@PapaG603
4 жыл бұрын
It would have burned down by end of video
@ssd3748
4 жыл бұрын
@@PapaG603 lol😂😂😂 so true doh.
@Flex2212
4 жыл бұрын
Well a comparison between an elephant, a rhino and a mouse wouldn't make sense either, right?
@hammmodjabeer7278
4 жыл бұрын
Of course porsche 911 gt2
@megasteel177
6 ай бұрын
Fortunatly even ferrari is more faster than porsche or idk😑
@davideboiardi
2 жыл бұрын
Ferrari has, not have.
@Spencer_Marks
4 жыл бұрын
Porsche is predictable, subtle, and vanilla. Never evokes an emotion, just simply a sports car. Ferrari hands down.
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
That’s an excellent way of summarising this debate
@drumminham
4 жыл бұрын
You've clearly never driven a manual GT3
@krys8494
4 жыл бұрын
Spencer Marks ur opinion
@thedudeabides1443
4 жыл бұрын
You’re actually using the words “vanilla” and Porsche in the same sentence? Have you ever even driven ANY Porsche? Doesn’t sound like it because that is an absurd comment.
@ssd3748
4 жыл бұрын
@@thedudeabides1443 he’s using the word in comparison with the ferrari.
@whateverrrrrr123
4 жыл бұрын
80% or so on Ferrari....duh!!!
@chartreusenematoad9451
4 жыл бұрын
lamborghini
@dlhussain81
4 жыл бұрын
Lambo every time! Nothing looks like a lambo
@Soilo555
4 жыл бұрын
First 🤣❤️
@scd
4 жыл бұрын
😅😂
@obsidian....
2 жыл бұрын
Y... Sac... Come on, you should at least know how to mispronounce a car/package.
@DailyDrivenBikes_1
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of either I see them everyday and both are boring 😴
@arthudk9473
Жыл бұрын
Bruh
@markjurczyk
4 жыл бұрын
Ferraris are done, just like thier F1 program hahahahahahahaha
@johnoibenjamin5630
3 жыл бұрын
Facts every car company is striving to be like Porsche still inovating.
@noamk1083
2 жыл бұрын
Cryyy
@Hb52354
4 жыл бұрын
One minute in and I’m done watching.. it’d Porsche! Not Porsh. Come on.. get it right or Gtfo! And enough with the hip hop beats.
@ssd3748
4 жыл бұрын
Well, nobody forced you to watch it.
@Hb52354
3 жыл бұрын
@@ssd3748 you’d have to pay me to finish watching it. Pronounce brand names correctly or GTFO.
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