What legion are you most looking forward to ally with?
@MayhapsOmegon
Жыл бұрын
The matrix isn’t perfectly mirrored though. Alpha Legion has no sworn brothers but the Imperial Army are sworn brothers with them.
@brastionskywarrior6951
Жыл бұрын
This obviously means that imperial army can use alpha legion buffs while alpha legion cant use imperial army buffs. Its perfectly fluffy
@henrikrasmussen8661
Жыл бұрын
Sanguinus campaigned with Horus some time before he met his legion because the legion was too batshit crazy
@irishjesus3927
Жыл бұрын
17:36 Horus and sanguinius are buddy buddy from not only the Murder campaign, but also the the early HH boom series and the new mortarion primarch book
@clownhater7329
Жыл бұрын
I think Sanguinius spent alot of time with the Luna Wolves before meeting his own legion. Maybe that's why they are sworn brothers?
@gathar58
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Sangunius was taught by Horus after he was found. Echoes of Eternity has a long flashback about this period.
@jamesespinosa690
Жыл бұрын
That and it was established right at the beginning of the series that Horus and Sanguinius had the closest bond of any of the brothers before Horus fell. It's part of the reason why Sanguinius was 'destined' to fight and fall before The Emperor get's his crack at Horus.
@jamesespinosa690
Жыл бұрын
Iron Warriors and World Eaters are "best friends" because they are both Zone Mortalis, 'into the breech' fighters. A little known fact about the Iron Warriors is that they are actually tied with World Eaters, Blood Angels, and Space Wolves as being the most bloodthirsty legion. Everyone rightfully knows that they are Siege specialists. But they fail to realise that the Iron Warriors have a seething rage that builds up overtime from their gruelling campaigns. They like to take out his rage when the time comes for them to eventually charge across no mans land and crush their enemies in bloody close combat. There is a reason why they were known as 'Corpse Grinders".
@jeffreysas5888
Жыл бұрын
Allies are kind of weird this edition, mostly because I can't seem to find a reason for characters of one army to join another legion, especially since it usually shuts off legion traits. So the main ally statuses that matter are Sworn Brothers and Fellow Warriors so that there are no real negatives. Main thing I can see using allies is for either a specific narrative or to shore up weaknesses your legion has.
@DaddyWarCrimes78
Жыл бұрын
I maintain that the Dark Angels should be By the Emperor's Command with the Mechanicum, given that their place as the legion planning for the Emperor going to war with the Mechanicum. They don't share tech with the Mechanicum and are the only legion who send their Techmarines to Terra rather than Mars for training. At best, they should be Distrusted Allies.
@meatlaser
Жыл бұрын
I actually kind of love that
@wenasaurus
Жыл бұрын
RG and wolves fought together on battle of yarrant after russ fought horus. They both knew of each's geneseed fuck ups (wulfen and raptors) and kept their lips zipped. Russ also vouched for corax when the lion was about to go on his onslaught and questioned corax's motives.
@holobiont3197
Жыл бұрын
Some of these seem designed to set up reenactment forces like space wolves+raven guard on Yarant (although there's also a cluster of space wolves raven guard and salamanders that all have some kind of shared outlook on regular humans). Others seem to be based on pre heresy relations. I think they did a really good job bar a couple of head scratchers that are probably down to me having insufficient knowledge of the setting. Great topic btw!
@jakobstiefelmayer3259
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the one that always got me was how close Magnus and Perturabo are in the novels yet how they can't ally in the matrix. It never made loreful sense to me because throughout the novels they are not stated as having dislike for one another despite even agreeing on occassion.
@marcialhd
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it also bothers me how the White Scars are just fellow warriors when Magnus was Jaghatai's closest friends among the Primarchs (and if both were sworn brothers then the Thousand Sons would at least have one viable ally for both loyalists and traitors).
@abarbs9083
Жыл бұрын
Horus loves sanguinius and says in siege of terra he would have been his only brother he would have happily followed as war master if he wasn’t given that title. I love that the matrix isn’t perfectly mirrored. Not all forces feel the same as about the other force.
@peterdavies6660
Жыл бұрын
Worth noting that, contra your comments, the allies matrix isn’t quite a mirror. Some legions are happier to have allied contingents from legions who would be less keen to reciprocate.
@benjaminbrenner745
Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@gathar58
Жыл бұрын
One interesting thing, the Night Lords have one sided trust with the Death Guard. I think it is the only non symmetrical part of the chart.
@meatlaser
Жыл бұрын
Ha that might be why nobody can figure out why they are best friends, its a misprint /Mistake
@josephalfano1065
Жыл бұрын
AL and the imperial army are asymmetrical too
@Jackalos1
Жыл бұрын
There's a few like more like that: Sons of Horus with White Scars or Iron Hands
@abarbs9083
Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you didn’t talk about the fact it isn’t mirrored. It’s one of my favour bits of info in the heresy game. Same as was in first Ed. Hard to spot but there are a few that are not the same
@volcano3493
Жыл бұрын
Some of these are meant to be to throw some legions a bone. Iron Hands (my Legion by the way): Ferrus and Fulgrim were best friends. Ferrus held G-Man in high regard due to his tremendous logistic and bureaucratic skills. Mechanicum doesn´t need to be explained. Loathing of the Imps stems from the "Flesh is Weak" mantra. They expect superhuman feats even from unaugmented humans. Guess what I am currently painting? A small Iron Empire (Raging Heroes) Imp force to fight alongside my IH. So there will be a lot of swearing on the battlefield. LOL! World Eaters/Night Lords: These guys were/are butchers/sadists and not half decent soldiers like the rest. G-Man especially hated Angron for that. No surprise nobody liked them. NL had really nothing in common with DG. IW & WE is strange too. Seems Perturabo liked the idea to have an useful idiot (Angron and his sons) to use as cannon fodder when doing costly sieges. BA & SoH: Horus adored the angel just like he liked Fulgrim. Seems he had a crush on pretty boys. And yes, Murder campaign is a good explanation. Salamanders: Never read a book about them. Seems Vulcan could have run the propaganda department with himself as the face of the Imperium considering everybody fawned over him. Charcoal skin with red burning eyes must have been the definition of kink back in 30K.
@jeffreysas5888
Жыл бұрын
One thing I'll add about Vulkan is that he spent the longest time separated from his legion after being discovered. The reason was that while he had a lot of compassion for humanity, he was the only primarch raised in a non-warlike environment (with the exception of the single dark eldar raid). The Emperor kept him close by and had him train alongside a lot of his brothers because he was so unfamiliar with being a warlord and had to balance that with his personality, so it allowed him to spend time with just about everyone.
@jamesespinosa690
Жыл бұрын
On the IW + WE front. It's not that they Primarchs are friends. It's that the two legions fighting styles are very complimentary. And also that the Iron Warriors themselves are also one of the most blood thirsty legions, tied with WE and BAs.
@captainferrite
Жыл бұрын
But you didn't notice the matrix isn't symmetrical
@MayhapsOmegon
Жыл бұрын
Raven Guard were the ones that came and saved the Space Wolves after they went and attacked Horus in Wolfsbane.
@LuckyAssult
10 ай бұрын
The Iron Warriors and World Eaters being Sworn Brothers is a reference to super old lore from the Realms of Chaos books. The Iron Warriors only trust khorn worshippers because khorn is the most honest Chaos god. You know what your getting when you deal with his worshippers. The Iron warriors still look down on any of their own who fall of khorn worship. But they like working with khorn worshippers. Also the books Heavily implied that Angron's home world he was enslaved on, was actually part of the core empire that guillieman inherited and turned into the 500 worlds. Angron has good reason to hate Gullieman.
@dreamingdenstudio
Жыл бұрын
Guys, can auxilia take allied detachment of imperial militia and cults?
@georgethearle7612
Жыл бұрын
This could look very different depending on if it was pre Istvaan, mid heresy, or siege of terra.
@jakobstiefelmayer3259
Жыл бұрын
Yes I do feel the allies matrix should be changed per campaign book. That makes more sense
@cerrilove700
Жыл бұрын
Imperial Army includes the Solar Aux remember!
@thesleepylion399
Жыл бұрын
6:29 Green??
@lostlegionspodcast3526
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think J is seeing things! 😂
@klasclaywood2667
Жыл бұрын
You're not reading the matrix properly. White scars hate Sons of horus, but Sons of horus love white scars
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