Let me know what you guys think of Heroes. Do you love it or hate it? Also, yes, I did get all the A ranks just as a flex. Edit: Thanks for the 400 subs btw. 93 more at the time of this edit, and I'll be remaking one of my earliest videos.
@Kirbystarallies1
2 жыл бұрын
I hate it I never got past bingo highway because of that slide, no matter what I did I would always fall off
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kirbystarallies1 That's fair. The physics in Bingo Highway are all over the place. At least we got a good Dream Event out of it in Mario & Sonic 2012 Olympics.
@Monhamd1000
2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of a mixed bag like you said but every now and then it's cool to revisit it, except the casino levels because they're pain
@susiehaltmann3342
2 жыл бұрын
So this game is good and i think its actually underrated but some moments suck like any level in bingo highway and to truly beat the game play it 4 times with different characters
@darkeneddaylight5422
2 жыл бұрын
I think I'm in the love crowd, the plot is great. And the ending with fighting Metal Madness and Overlord is definitely worth playing through this game, it can get a little frustrating but I try to look past the flaws of games like this.
@MasterJunior93
Жыл бұрын
31:04 a Whovian is what you would call a Doctor Who fan. Charriii5 made a reference.
@anwenlokier2292
11 ай бұрын
Fun fact in my school vr game Upgraded titan speakerman crotch was called whovian by Unicron and Speaker women dumbass
@ContinuedFoxofficial
3 ай бұрын
He probably didn't know that fact when he was making the video
@manicbeyond
Жыл бұрын
"Name one 6 year old who wouldn't act like that." Cream the Rabbit.
@luistailsprower3051
5 ай бұрын
That's because Vanilla, the sweet and fun mother she is, raised Cream the best of her ability. So of course Cream wouldn't act like this.
@seematahir5970
2 жыл бұрын
42:39 I think you might be misunderstanding the article here. The screenshot in your vid seems to be referring to the "Battle for Angel Island" arc in the Sonic IDW comics, which takes place after the events of Forces. In it, Metal Sonic was upgraded to Neo during the war, but the process took longer than expected and he finished his upgrade too late. This explains why he was absent during the war and why Infinite had to create a phantom copy of him. Once the war was over, Neo stormed the unguarded Angel Island and secured the Master Emerald. When Sonic and Co. went to stop him, Neo used the Master Emerald to transform further, turning him into *Super* Neo Metal Sonic (basically Neo Metal but golden). He later reabsorbed Sonic and Shadow's bio data, and then used them and the Master Emerald to become Master Overlord (think Metal Overload just with the Master Emerald as a power source.) If you're interested and haven't checked out the IDW comics you totally should, they're a great read and basically the only source of good Sonic storytelling at the moment. So technically Charii does have a point here, as it's never explicitly stated how Metal became Neo in the first place. However, its generally inferred and accepted that Eggman upgraded him to fight Sonic, but he became too powerful and ended up betraying Eggman instead, causing the events of Heroes. So even though it was still a pretty silly sin, Charii did have a point, as if Metal did actually use the Master Emerald in Heroes, it really should have been explained or shown, as Angel Island and the Master Emerald are important parts of the sonic lore and it would've been a pretty important event. Either way, an explanation of how Metal became Neo Metal should've been present in the game or the manual, as the whole story kinda hinges on it. Sorry for the wall of text, I really did enjoy your vid and just wanted to clear up some confusion here.
@timothybass2609
Жыл бұрын
I was just about to say that
@jordandillow3423
Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares! And as roxas from kingdom hearts would say shut up!
@WitherofEarth
2 жыл бұрын
31:05 im pretty sure that was supposed to be a doctor who joke, since fans of that series are called whovians themselves. granted this does count as charri making a reference to something that's not part of the game but i still felt i should point this out regardless
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough.
@Extreme2566
2 жыл бұрын
I thought that too
@luistailsprower3051
5 ай бұрын
I mean hey, not everyone's going to recognise that as a Dr. Who joke. That's why Tony thought it was a penis joke. Charriii even quite explicitly said, and I quote, "your whovian *is showing*" like he WAS talking about his crotch. No matter what word you use to fill in the blank in between "your" and "is", "your [blank] is showing" is quite easy to register as "your penis is showing". I hope that made sence.
@ronaldmatos1516
Жыл бұрын
1:29 3:42 20:22 42:31 I seriously do not understand the “nobody cares” jokes. Like, in most of the instances, Chariii usually has a point.
@cloudshines812
2 жыл бұрын
True fact here: A year ago I wanted to do the entire Adventure Trilogy as my kickstarter to the Charriii5 EWWs but I didn’t have enough time for it. However Heroes was the most difficult video to construct and I’m quite glad you made your video here. Now just do Adventure 1 and the whole series is complete
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
I've already done Adventure 1.
@jordandillow3423
Жыл бұрын
He already did that did you not watch his video on it or something you dumb person?! Yeah did you not watch it what did you just not have WiFi to watch it or something?! You dingus!
@malikmiller2786
2 жыл бұрын
i actually like heroes! and the part where you said that rouge,s outfit should not appear in others games. but i think it should come back because to me its more suitable than the outfit she wears now. but i respect your opinion.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Eh, it's neat, but I personally much prefer her usual look. Respect your opinion too.
@malikmiller2786
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 thanks bro.
@GatorOne-in7hk
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 Rouge’s Heroes outfit is kinda weird, but at least she’s properly covering her chest. Come to think of it, I think the characters should switch up their wardrobe from time to time. It’s kind of boring seeing them wear the exact same outfit (or lack of in the guy’s cases) every time, matter how well their typical clothes suit them.
@nameless......................
Жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 also it stalls r34 longer
@The_Dark_Red_GamingClub
Жыл бұрын
I am so sorry, But I hate Sonic Heroes.
@BojoJuniorOG
2 жыл бұрын
I really like these videos. Not only because it's poking fun at Charriii, (I also don't hate Charriii) but you actually bring up a lot of good points as well as just letting cartoons be with their own wild nature. I'm starting to realize with the, “I've got a bad feeling about this” being treated as a cliche, why hasn't CinemaSins done any, “We've got company” cliches as it's known to be “the most spoken line in movies”?
@newguy371
2 жыл бұрын
I don't hate Charriii either, but man is he bad at games. In his Paper Mario sins he didn't know he had to visit Merlon to reach chapter 7. I mean Merlon's sole purpose is to tell you where to go, so that should've been the first place he went to.
@MrRuePine
2 жыл бұрын
@@newguy371 To be fair, he had a good point in that sin because he mentions Twink already does that for us, so we end up forgetting about poor Merlon. And since Twink and Peach end up finding out nothing on the Chapter 6 intermission, he won't come anywhere on the city and we kinda get confused on what to do. I even had to watch a walkthrough just so I could get on that chapter at all, and well, it was my experience since I'm not very bright (for syndromic reasons), but still.
@newguy371
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrRuePine Twink doesn't do it for chapter 1 either, and you have to go to Merlon to get past the Koopa Bros. in Toad Town. So you'd think he would remember that.
@MrRuePine
2 жыл бұрын
@@newguy371 Yep, Chapter 1, granted, while for the next 5 chapters you don't. It's enough to make one forget about him
@silvervr5911
11 ай бұрын
@@newguy371you just called him bad at games. So you fo hate him
@doctoromega009
2 жыл бұрын
Sin 75 was annoying. It seemed like they were getting the point, but then they didn't.
@supersonicwarrior2614
Жыл бұрын
What makes typos not sins? If you were to turn in an essay with a bunch of typos to your teacher, chances are you're probably gonna get points taken away. The series is called "Everything WRONG with" for a reason.
@tonysonic456
Жыл бұрын
You’re right. An essay with a bunch of typos would lose points. HOWEVER, if there’s only one or two in the whole thing, which is the case in most of Charriii’s EWWs, it’s negligible and kinda pointless to count those little things as problems.
@Rocket-rs2zg
4 ай бұрын
If you still read these comments (I don't know what the disowned means) all your nobody cares sins are really bad and unfunny becase Charrriii is asking actual questions that are unanswered and don't make any sense at all
@Benjawin6671
2 жыл бұрын
7:24 actually that's the doing of Omega. Remember when he says "prepare to destroy immediate area" at the end of Dark's story?
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! Good point.
@ethancasem8259
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about me. This was my very first Sonic game. It is one of my all-time favorites. Partially due to my nostalgia.
@hammbonethegamer4505
8 ай бұрын
Mine too
@BJSolar02
2 жыл бұрын
(2:29) I like to presume that Tikal's spirit is guarding the Master Emerald, even though that's never actually confirmed
@sussy-sonic
2 жыл бұрын
Thats possible
@gameomer1855
2 жыл бұрын
Knuckles Chaotix is canon Sonic Rush 1 and Adventure are canon Sonic Rivals 1 and 2 are canon Sonic Spinball isn't canon
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
You are right everywhere except for Knuckles Chaotix. Someone at Sega said that the Chaotix in Heroes are reimagined from Knuckles Chaotix. They are not the originals which implies that it isn’t canon, and that’s not a bad thing given that nobody likes that game.
@gameomer1855
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 Thanks for the information I didn't know that until now
@DarthMolgy
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Advance trilogy
@gameomer1855
2 жыл бұрын
@@DarthMolgy Yes right also I think Sonic Advance 1 and 2 happened before sonic adventure 1 and 2 because Cream appeared in Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Adventure 2 being a continuation
@darkeneddaylight5422
2 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the perfect Sonic videos of Charri to sin, cuz he mainly talks about plot holes. Which by the way, most of these plot holes have already been answered. Or maybe all of them have-
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Heroes’ story is kind of complicated due to the multiple playable characters. I was able to figure things out, but most people might not be able to.
@elioridacow
2 жыл бұрын
I still like to think Team Rose beats team Sonic based on Creams line but it's not that big of a deal it can go either way
@ayshinobi6990
2 жыл бұрын
Also,about the whole master emerald thing,charrii forgot that knuckles can just shrink it and put it in hammer space or something.
@susiehaltmann3342
2 жыл бұрын
“Don’t get to excited boys! Those were the easy ones!” Eg- I mean Metal Sonic like bruh atleast say girls as well not everyone is a boy you know
@thejonbrownshow8470
2 жыл бұрын
For sin 44, I've never noticed metal Sonic's statue myself, so I'm with sonic on this one lol
@vittokyokoxpokemon5969
7 ай бұрын
I understand why these discontinued videos, seeing them back to back makes you realize MANY of the points you make or you sound like a famboy or like someone who didn't research the context of the time.
@TheDMan2003
Жыл бұрын
30:02 You know what’s also back there? A wall and a ceiling. And those plants are in vases, so this is clearly another extension of Chaotix HQ (assuming this is their actual HQ that is).
@supersonicwarrior2614
Жыл бұрын
44:43 Oh my God, we get it! You have nothing better to do other than 100%-ing this game!
@tonysonic456
Жыл бұрын
Jealous?
@supersonicwarrior2614
Жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 Not really, just saying not everyone wants to go out of their way to 100% this game, or any game for that matter.
@JadeEmjee
2 жыл бұрын
"Sonic Heroes is a bit of a mixed bag for the Sonic fanbase. Some people love it, some hate it, and others think it’s a bit of both. Personally, I’m of the love it crowd. I just had a blast playing through it, even though I did get burnt out after a while and getting the Emeralds was a pain. As for Charriii’s video, I remember watching this one quite a lot before I discovered Th3Birdman. I remember thinking it was the funniest thing I watched, and after a rewatch with a much different mindset, it’s alright. Aside from the whole “Is Shadow real or an android?” debacle, there wasn’t anything that particularly annoyed me, and there was a few things he got right. But it’s still got issues." 🤓
@Rats0World
Жыл бұрын
Its actually incredibly completely outrageously obnoxious how pissed off you get ☠️
@shadowthehedgehog370
8 ай бұрын
Yes
@speedboom9392
8 ай бұрын
Look I agree but he has since moved on from this format so no need to still chastise him for it.
@shadowthehedgehog370
8 ай бұрын
@@speedboom9392 no he still should be criticised for what he’s done
@speedboom9392
8 ай бұрын
@@shadowthehedgehog370 You know why he doesn’t make these anymore? Because he’s not happy with them. And he’s gotten tons of comments complaining about him. He’s had enough.
@shadowthehedgehog370
8 ай бұрын
@@speedboom9392 they caused chari’s DEPRESSION he doesn’t derserve to forget these
@naaylealikhan8129
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I didn't make it to the premiere, I was busy doing my replay skyward sword hd . Anyways, amazing video like always
@apoole54
Жыл бұрын
Man, you’re sitting cinema sins never thought I’d see that thank you for defending sonic heroes by the way
@sussy-sonic
2 жыл бұрын
Heroes is my favorite game in the series, so its nice to see someone likes it as well when you consider the amount of people that dislike it,I hope this was fun to do,also you must have used some magical editing skills to show your 2 selves right.Im excited for the next video,is it gonna be on charriis shadow video or something else
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
I left a clue at the end of the video. It’s Sonic Battle for the GBA.
@susiehaltmann3342
2 жыл бұрын
Tony: The god of the iconic quote “NOBODY CARES!”
@Monhamd1000
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like someone never checked the wiki to know what's canon or not (Which is stupid btw) Also congrats for 400 subs Tony! Keep up the great work!!
@sussy-sonic
2 жыл бұрын
You actually expect people to rely on external material like that
@jordandillow3423
Жыл бұрын
uh yeah dude who do you think doesn’t your mom?!
@theplushiechannel4801
2 жыл бұрын
47:02 Alright....TIME TO PARTY!
@peashooter1600
23 күн бұрын
Funfact when rouge said she was giving up that line of work it was in reference to knuckles asking about her treasure hunting!
@ronaldmatos1516
Жыл бұрын
0:44-He’s asking how it’s possible in the first place, not questioning why Tails is doing it in this game specifically. Which makes sense considering it defies the laws of physics with the way his tails are positioned.
@tonysonic456
Жыл бұрын
A) You’re another person who clearly can’t suspend their disbelief. Next thing you’ll be telling me is that Foxes with two tails that he can use to fly like a helicopter don’t actually exist. B) Again, suspend your disbelief whydoncha. This is a franchise that doesn’t take place in any sort of realism. Just roll with it dude.
@ronaldmatos1516
Жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 …You do realize that there’s a LIMIT to how much said suspension can be utilized by the game, right? (Also, you literally just used the same argument twice)
@tonysonic456
Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldmatos1516 Because the same argument works for both. While there is a limit, Sonic’s world is clearly on the higher end of the cartoony spectrum. The franchise is allowed to get away with a lot more than other franchises because of it. A fox flying backwards and a moving picture aren’t all that unbelievable in the context of the world.
@ronaldmatos1516
Жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 Still, the Sonic series relies heavily on physics in both gameplay and cutscenes. If they wanted to show Tails flying backwards, they should’ve animated him pointing his tails in front of his body (I.e. the direction Tails is facing), not behind it.
@tonysonic456
Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldmatos1516 It doesn’t need to do that for everything. A little suspension goes a long way, you know. Besides, by your own logic if Tails had pointed his Tails in that direction, he would’ve fallen down.
@thejonbrownshow8470
2 жыл бұрын
4:51 I think in the editing process, you should time stamp any "look at sin ##" in the description 😅 Just a nitpick lol but I'm glad to see you're still doing these, I really appreciate you and "DT"'s chemistry there as well lol it's like Tom Hardy's venom kind of lol
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
7:00 I know I’m being pedantic but I’d say the adventure games had canon outcomes: The cutscene for Sonic vs Knuckles shows it was a draw We know from Amy’s perspective that it was Sonic who fought and beat Gamma For Adventure 2 it’s a bit harder but we know Sonic won the final dual with Shaodw as Shadow said “you know I can’t let you live” if Shadow had won Sonic would’ve been killed and not been around for The Last Story
@personexisting123
Жыл бұрын
Actually, the Last Story kicks off where the Dark story left off, and would be impossible if Sonic stopped the eclipse cannon, implying Shadow won.
@skibot9974
Жыл бұрын
@@personexisting123 Eggman could’ve just been unaware Sonic disabled the eclipse canon. Remember it was never meant to fire Gerald reprogrammed the ARK so it would go on a collision course when all 7 were entered
@personexisting123
Жыл бұрын
@@skibot9974 Possibly, but it’s still strange that the last story starts right where the dark story ended with the “WARNING” message.
@skibot9974
Жыл бұрын
@@personexisting123 and in the hero story we see Eggman grabbing the yellow emerald while tails is distracted. The hero ending leads into the dark ending which leads to the last story
@n.d.engleson6499
2 жыл бұрын
30:33 Did Professor Robotnik, a relative of Eggman, have an I.Q of 300 as well? Because that would explain how he programmed the ARK to destroy the Earth while imprisoned on Prison Island.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Possibly.
@owlmanz8171
2 жыл бұрын
good luck with the 06 and the generations videos
@markmoore7050
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like he's going to have a field day with 06
@owlmanz8171
2 жыл бұрын
@@markmoore7050 same
@elioridacow
2 жыл бұрын
True fact Shadow is not an android he's just like he was it was said that one of Eggmans robots saved Shadow in Adventure 2
@TheEthansYT
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I'm glad I was actually able to make this one. You know, I used to find some of the stuff in the original video absolutely hilarious. Now I'm not saying my sense of humor has gotten much better since then, but I realized that the original video is flawed, and the attempts at humor are... reaching....
@ARCtheCartoonMaster
Жыл бұрын
37:20 For me personally, I always interpreted that Eggman would later pay back the Chaotix with the tax money he'd later get from taking over the world, and that the Chaotix were simply enforcing a strict deadline that interfered with that plan.
@Kalistorydreamer
2 жыл бұрын
*sees the size comparison between metal sonic and his neo form* Holy *beep*!
@Kalistorydreamer
2 жыл бұрын
That was fast, thanks for the heart
@Someguyhere111
2 жыл бұрын
Even without the manual, you can easily make the assumption that Eggman locked Omega in that room to guard Shadow. To Eggman it would be an important job, to Omega it would be a waste of his potential. Also just wanna point out it's not thanks to Shadow's game that people think he's an edgelord, it's thanks to people taking his game at face value and not actually looking at it themselves, just looking at the coverart, the first level and "funny" KZitemrs' takes on it. If you take the dark paths in that game then yeah, he becomes a villain who hates humanity. If you take the hero path though he stays in-tune with his SA2 and Heroes personality, which is also the personality he's given in the canon Last Story, where he's disgusted by Black Doom's plan and regrets the part he inadvertantly played in it. And on the "why Rouge doesn't just tell Shadow about SA2" thing, I hate how popular this sentiment is - Rouge barely KNOWS Shadow by this point. She knows him probably better than anyone else in the series (that's alive), sure, but she still barely knows him because their relationship is SA2 was purely false accomplices. Shadow kept to himself and Rouge was unable to find any information on Shadow himself, only on the Biolizard. All she can tell him is that they were enemies and then he helped save the world, which given the dialogue at the end of this game, she likely does off-screen. She can't tell him anything else though, certainly not why he was in that stasis pod or anything about his life 50 years ago. Same goes for the other characters - Sonic and Amy had moments with Shadow but never learned anything about him, Tails and Knuckles barely interacted with him at all (in fact Tails and Shadow never even shared a moment of screentime together). Eggman might know more due to having Gerald's diary, but he's Eggman. And just on a final note, THANK YOU for pointing out that Metal scanning Shadow's biodata is a clue that he's the real Shadow. Another thing I hate seeing is the idea that the only indication this Shadow is the real on is one obscure line at the end of his game. Both Heroes and Shadow are filled with clues that imply or flat-out confirm this is the real Shadow, you don't NEED confirmation, it's simply there as some extra dialogue if you wait long enough. Other clues in Heroes include Shadow reacting to the word space and being able to use Chaos Control.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Neat info, although Omega wasn’t there to guard Shadow. He was decommissioned. Guarding Shadow would make sense, but it’s not the actual reason.
@Someguyhere111
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 I know, I just mean that even if you don't read the manual, it's not "weird" that Eggman would leave Omega there. There are plenty of other plausible reasons, so it makes no sense to be confused over it.
@teamdarkfan317
Жыл бұрын
Rouge does have some knowledge on what happened 50 years ago, no much but a little, after all she was the one who read Gerald’s dairy to everyone in the final story. Also in one the cutscenes earlier in the game he says Maria’s name. When she reads Gerald’s diary her eyes widen slightly on the mention of his granddaughter Maria, showing she most likely made the connection that what he was doing was doing was because of Maria or at least that she meant a lot him.
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
Ya know looking back on Team Dark’s story I’m starting to question why Shadow’s game even exists. All the signs pointed to Shadow being the real deal and even if they weren’t it’s not bad to leave things open to interpretation
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
I’ll tell you why. Popularity.
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 it’s a shame that games idiotic structure and plot killed off any potential solo games
@sussy-sonic
2 жыл бұрын
It would've been nice if we got a knuckles game
@foty829
Жыл бұрын
@@sussy-sonic What about Knuckles' Chaotix?
@jordandillow3423
Жыл бұрын
what about it?!
@acesamm
2 жыл бұрын
4:33 Maybe “‘Charrii5 Nitpicks on Grammar’ cliche”. Eh. 11:39 what is a weirder is that Charriii doesn’t even count a sin at Final Fortress, Team Rose’s story, where she says “Oh my god!” which makes no sense, since E rated games around that time tend to avoid christian references that are used like that. I was honestly shocked Amy said that in a Sonic game (since in my experience, I have played the game MOSTLY blind as I thought Team Rose’s story was the only thing I would unironically enjoy about this game). The game would probably be rated E10+ if the game came out today or a year later (more likely cause Rouge herself and Omega shooting his bullets at Dark’s intro). He was counting gameplay dialogue too! He was probably lucky he heard another dialogue instead that replaces it where Cream says something else entirely. “This is lucky!” Also again about the comment Vector made, there might be a slim chance he knows about the E10+ rating, but even then, that rating never existed until 2005. A T would probably what he was referring to (which is still dumb).
@newguy371
2 жыл бұрын
Only Nintendo avoided religious references, since that's part of Nintendo of America's policy. In the early 2000's saying Oh My God was fine for younger audiences, but standards have gotten stricter over time.
@acesamm
2 жыл бұрын
@@newguy371 Now I’m really confused. Maybe because I’m a Sony person, but the PaRappa games (and UmJammin Lammy) censored some religious stuff such as a character who calls himself the Lord, and the entire concept of Hell (with the 4th wall break) altogether to avoid a T rating for one and… I dunno, same thing for the other?? And those were the 90s to early 2000s
@newguy371
2 жыл бұрын
@@acesamm That stuff wouldn't get a T rating. A K-A rating maybe. Also the stuff you mentioned is very different than saying "Oh my god." At the end of the day, it's up to the localizers to pick what they censor. There are so many factors that go into international censorship that it's best not to think about it too much.
@acesamm
2 жыл бұрын
@@newguy371 alrighty then. Thanks for the info.
@ARCtheCartoonMaster
Жыл бұрын
She also said "holy cow", a reference to the sacredness of cows in Hinduism.
@SayoriChan640
2 жыл бұрын
See, Most people says (why doesn't anyone talk to Shadow) but Sonic and Tails do try to talk to him that's why we should double check before we go into a conclusion.
@sussy-sonic
2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind the dialogue only happens when your teammates die and everyone survives at the end of the fight, so they couldn't have canonically talked to him
@susiehaltmann3342
2 жыл бұрын
Dammit we were so close to a video without an amy panty joke
@keeganstormblade5456
2 жыл бұрын
10:04 Yeah, and this game happens to be everyone's go-to example for that 13:45 - 17:11 - 19:15 - 43:59 Wow... these guys just can't take a hint, can they? Anyway, Sonic Heroes is one of those games I just never have the motivation to replay it unlike SA1 and 2. Though I want to say its because I've only played the PS2 version of the game, which is a bit jankier compared to the GameCube version. That, and the special stages suck, but that goes for every version of the game. Funnily enough, when I first got the game, I actually played as Team Dark first since Shadow was a member and he was my favorite character back then. Had no idea that meant I'd be playing the "hardest" difficulty right out of the gate. Whoops.
@-Devoid-
Жыл бұрын
They were obviously keeping up the mystery (don’t know if that’s the actual term i should use) They’re acting like they don’t know if shadow is an android or not.
@manicbeyond
Жыл бұрын
Adding 50 sins for sexualizing the 6 year old bunny... AGAIN. So, 300 sins.
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
2:50 this game came out the same year as Ratchet and Clank 2, Jak 2 and Final Fantasy X-2 all of which have amazing facial animations It’s not unreasonable to expect more
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Sega is a small third-party at this point. Those games were developed by much bigger companies. I’d say your standards are too high.
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 what companies you think would be better to compare to? I’d like to determine how graphics were in companies of SEGA’s class
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
@@skibot9974 Well, I wouldn’t say that Heroes looks bad. In fact, it’s held up pretty well. It’s just facial expressions outside of the pre-rendered cutscenes. I’m just willing to be generous towards older games, though 2005 is my limit when it comes to generosity. As for which companies I’d compare Heroes to, I’d other GameCube titles made by third-parties like Chibi-Robo. Not Capcom’s though. They gave us Resident Evil 4 which is in its own league.
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 chibi robo is first party
@jordandillow3423
Жыл бұрын
oh my god who the fuck cares nobody and I mean nobody cares you need to shut up and go away
@Xxgranny
Жыл бұрын
35:26 Only said 5 4 times
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
31:35 actually according to Flynn Sega has mandated that money doesn’t exist in the Sonic universe… so is Vector delusional?
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
When was that statement made? Because this a 2003 game.
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 it was made about 2018 but Sega claims that they ALWAYS envisioned a human and animal dimension so I assume they felt the same about thsi
@BJSolar02
2 жыл бұрын
@@skibot9974 Not anymore apparently because if you watch Tails Tube, the two worlds stuff is no more
@jamilzayas5808
2 жыл бұрын
So does "DT" stand for Dark Tony?
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@tristanwest864
2 жыл бұрын
@TonySonic when are you doing Sonic 06 me and a ton of people feel like it’s one of his best videos
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm going in chronological/canonical order. So I've still got his Battle, Rush, Rivals, and Shadow videos to do as well as a couple of my own.
@kavi3423
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 Techincally He has 2 of them the one he made himself and the one he collabed with on Noir's channel but I dont think that should count.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
@@kavi3423 I saw that one. I'm not counting it.
@BIIIIIGMAN
Жыл бұрын
Leave Charlii alone man 😂
@aureliamastergoomba1278
2 жыл бұрын
28:07 Sonic wouldn’t go after Little Planet if it weren’t for Eggman
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Amy only went to Little Planet because her tarot cards said that she would find her hero there.
@MasterJunior93
Жыл бұрын
The Bringas brothers did great voicing Tails in the Sonic Adventure series. The problem is they can't do it anymore since by that time they aged out through puberty. After William Corkery, Sega stopped casting child actors and stuck to bringing in voice actresses to voice Tails, starting from Amy Palant all the way to Colleen Shawneesey, Tails's current VA as of Sonic Frontiers.
@TheDMan2003
Жыл бұрын
O’Shaughnessy started with the Boom series, not Frontiers.
@alexexists3108
2 ай бұрын
I think Corey's voice as Tails in Shuffle was the best of that era
@crocodilechrism8659
Жыл бұрын
Charriii and Honest Biggums questioning about Shadow repeatedly is what Th3Birdman calls... (crunch, crunch) padding the sin count, bro.
@@dtierhero2271 You mocking me? You mocking me? You mocking me? Well, I'm the only one who made that comment. So, you must be mocking me.
@dtierhero2271
Жыл бұрын
@@crocodilechrism8659 I'm not mocking you. I'm not mocking you. I'm not mocking you. You just called out someone for being against TS like it's a taboo of some sort.
@siramaytheshowgundragon
2 жыл бұрын
42:57 Dued that was for the battle of angel island arc in the IDW Sonic comics *Hands you a sin for not doing enough research*
@siramaytheshowgundragon
2 жыл бұрын
Also whovian was a reference to being a Dr who fan not charmys gentials *Another sin for you* There's also other stuff but I think it's subjective enough for me to give you a pass
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
You're late to the party for both.
@siramaytheshowgundragon
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 apologies it took me to long to look for people correcting you in the comments so I just thought no one did
@StickyError404
3 ай бұрын
Why does DT have such a big hatred for Branrich lol
@crynosinso8324
2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people get confused about things like Tails being able to fly backwards. I'm no expert, but don't helicopters have the ability to fly backwards by doing something with how the propellers function? I'm sure Tails has practiced enough at this point that he could possibly fly through multiple stages blindfolded, backwards. Also 4:03 That needs questioning because they've only made it through 2 stages and are down to only 1 day, they don't have a whole lot more time to, you know... Save the world. Plus 30:03 What the sin to Charriii's sin should've been is "Ever heard of decor?" You can see a wall behind the plants and Charmy.
@rohangamesDa64
2 жыл бұрын
All Right That Nice One Not bad Actually not bad yeah
@thejonbrownshow8470
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, for sin 140, with the "whovian" but, I just assumed he was reaching for the low hanging pop culture reference 😅
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
42:45 that blurb is clearly referring to the IDW continuity not the games
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been told that by three other people by now. I assumed that it was referring to Heroes since it showed a picture of Neo Metal Sonic from Heroes.
@theogee_officialch
4 ай бұрын
31:05 If you did proper research, you would know that a Whovian is a fan of Doctor Who, the very words Charmy said RIGHT BEFORE THIS. Try looking into things before jumping to conclusions
@ARCtheCartoonMaster
Жыл бұрын
42:47 Once again, freaking kudos for actually *zooming in* on the browser to get the text nice and crisp. It sucks that I have to give praise for something so mundane, but *so many KZitemrs* with *so many subscribers* forget to do this (if they even know it's a thing) that I have to give credit where necessary.
@clintonbuggs5612
2 жыл бұрын
TonySonic this "Sonic Heroes" Music is epic for me
@lejnardjustinmendoza4376
2 жыл бұрын
47:03 Okay, I have a question. Which game took place first, Sonic Battle or Shadow '05?
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
As it turns out, Shadow came first, but I didn’t know that until after I uploaded the Battle video.
@An_Account1
2 жыл бұрын
I'm just going to get straight into talking about Charriii's videos instead of saying I haven't played this game for the 5th time. I thought that Charriii's video was a big relief following the dumpster fire that was Charriii's Adventure 2 video. 1:54: That's because Charriii will call out anyone for anything that could even remotely be considered bad, but apparently Charriii hasn't done anything like that, except he has. 2:04: Hey DT who's your companion? 4:53: At this point, "typos aren't sins, they're nitpicks" feels too iconic to remove. 6:10: Isn't that part of the "Charriii sins absolutely nothing" cliche? 11:39: I've actually seen some people say stuff like that. Seriously, saying damn one time is enough for some people to say that kids shouldn't play a game, even if that game is rated E10. 21:28: I was hoping DT would have something to say about that guy returning. 23:18: Good to hear you agree DT. 29:44: He does? 32:14: Also, that was (at least) the third time Charriii brought up Fire Emblem while refusing to sin it. Although this video released before the poll so I'm not sure if it counts. 35:26: Why did you only say it four times? Also, why are you repeating the number? 38:55: 43 seconds sounds short looking at the size comparison! 39:37: Considering a certain sin in Adventure 1, Charriii could believe that it's both. She still didn't pull it out of that area and Charriii's sin was still gross. 43:25: Even Charriii's guest called him out. 44:09: How did Shadow survive and what happened to his memory anyway? 44:40: When did you do that? Also, I never though I'd see TS and DT on screen at the same time. And I'll have Sonic Battle sins soon.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
2:04: I am. I lived in Arizona for a year. 6:10: I suppose so. 29:44: Yeah, I watched one of his videos, and he had an opening theme that was pretty fire. 35:26: Didn't realize he only said it four times. Also, I did that because I thought it was the funniest way to retort aside from "Honest Biggums sins the same thing twice cliche". 44:09: He actually survived the fall to Earth but lost his memory as a result. 44:40: I purposefully delayed the video until I could get every single A rank. It was tough, but I accomplished it.
@An_Account1
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 2:04: Not what I'd expect DT to refer to you by. 29:44: I don't know why but I thought you meant Charriii at first. 35:26: Well it was funny. I knew you did it for that at least. 44:09: So he just survived because the writers said so? Why did Charriii not sin that? 44:40: I thought so. It was funny.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
@@An_Account1 44:09: It was actually because of his popularity. Fun fact: they originally wanted to bring Gamma back due to popularity but decided Shadow was the more popular one and simply created Omega.
@An_Account1
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 That's interesting. I wonder who the third member would be instead if Gamma returned. And I'll have Sonic Battle sins soon.
@An_Account1
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 Here are the sins, and at least this is a modern Charriii video. If his Shuffle video is anything to go by then I'll probably just not care about this one, which after his Adventure 2 video I'll take. Sin # 1: -is not a sin. Sin # 2: Can you come up with a better one? Sin # 6: And why is that a sin? Sin # 11: Isn't that a sin of Adventure 1? Sin # 12: "Charriii sins the series most iconic line" cliche. Sin # 14: Adventure 1 showed that the Master Emerald is also a TV. Sin # 16: And that's bad why? Sin # 20: And you can't prove that they do. Sin # 24: Typos aren't sins, they're nitpicks. Sin # 26: Knuckles was clearly getting angry. Sin # 27: "Charriii answers himself" cliche. Sin # 31: KZitem sponsorships weren't a thing when this game came out. Sin # 32: "Charriii sins the series most iconic line" cliche. Sin # 40: "Charriii makes a pop culture reference that isn't a sin of the game" cliche. Sin # 49: "Charriii sins the series most iconic line" cliche. Sin # 55: From my understanding Amy cares about her clothes almost as much as she cares about Sonic. Sin # 63: Typos aren't sins, they're nitpicks. Sin # 73: "Charriii sins something he agrees with" cliche. Sin # 76: "Charriii sins the series most iconic line" cliche. This video was a weird one. I just had no idea what was going on most of the time. Though this is modern Charriii, who's sins come less from being an annoying idiot and more from misunderstanding the lore.
@AceDestroyer977
2 жыл бұрын
42:47 THAT IS IN THE COMICS! AND IT LITTERALLY SAYS: "During the battle for the island, *Neo* Metal Sonic transformed into *Super Neo* Metal Sonic thanks to the power of the Master Emerald." AND THAT HAPPENS IN THE COMICS WHICH ARE NOT CANON, SO YOUR ARGUMENT FALLS APART. READ GODDAMNIT
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been told that several times. I bet you think you’re real funny yelling at me, but you’re not.
@AceDestroyer977
2 жыл бұрын
No, i don't think that i'm funny, i'm just angry because of the fact you didn't bother reading or check the site to see the full information instead of assuming things. And you're the one that that thinks he's funny making that irritating voice.
@jordandillow3423
Жыл бұрын
23:30 also bruh did you not tell dark tony that this video came out before he did the Mario and Luigi everything wrong with’s because this video came out before those bruh?
@theogee_officialch
4 ай бұрын
The only nitpick i have about this video is this: Why are you making your voice deeper for HonestBiggums? Just because there's two people doing this EWW, doesn't mean you have to do two different voices. Otherwise, great video!
@brolee1281
3 ай бұрын
It's a character named Dark Tony
@thejonbrownshow8470
2 жыл бұрын
Around sin 174, the "#2,#4,##" sins are going over my head lol
@susiehaltmann3342
2 жыл бұрын
Hey uhhh so dont tell dt but is it a good idea to hide dts gun
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Nope because he always has it on his person.
@susiehaltmann3342
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 ehh well hopefully he’ll learn
@Prestonthefox
2 жыл бұрын
19:46 SONIC HEROS THEORY:SHADOW IS REAL i had to do it im sorry
@KarenMyComputerWife
2 жыл бұрын
I am neutral to Charriii5, but I think CinemaSins is trash on fire.
@fatalwaffle1715
Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video Bro!!
@summersensation9244
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed you didn't sin the fact Tails and Knuckles don't have a Super form. Well, an argument you could have made is that it's debatable if S3&K is canon. Sonic the Hedgehog 3 is definitely canon, no doubt about it, but the "& Knuckles" part is debatable, since we never hear of Hyper Sonic again, and S3&K is where Super Tails and Super Knuckles originated. I personally think S3&K is entirely canon, including the "& Knuckles" part.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Well, either way, it’s dumb that they don’t get Super forms.
@summersensation9244
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 That's true. Sega should really focus on S3&K more... Maybe in the new game? But honestly, who knows at this point?
@2DCheese
4 ай бұрын
1. 6:31 I'm pretty sure he didn't mean the word "DIE" when he said "it was dark". He probably just meant the "date with eggman" part. +1 2. 7:16 Do you mean Sonic doesn't remember something he faced head on in a RACE? Sonic would've easily thought it looked familiar. +3
@mohanas2489
2 ай бұрын
I would have given the guy a gazillion sins for sinning What I'm made of
@agentomecha634
Жыл бұрын
Sonic Heroes is a weird game for me. I don’t hate it. I do see the appeal in it and it has some good ideas, but it’s execution of said ideas isn’t always the best. Plus those special stages are tricky for me. I do like the multiple playable characters and the story with Metal is great. Overall, it’s not my favorite Sonic game, but it’s still pretty good. Although I heard the PS2 port is… something else. I play the Xbox version through my 360 via backwards compatibility so it runs great.
@Rats0World
Жыл бұрын
Ok
@lordanubis86
2 жыл бұрын
@tonysonic Ok so I love heros but I do have to ask what do get from getting all A ranks some say it’s just a hard mode but I’m not to sure also I do have to disagree that typos are sins only if the subtitles constantly do it unless the game is designed to mess them up.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
The reward for getting all A ranks is a "Super Hard Mode". I played the first level just to get a taste, and this game's idea of "super hard" is just throwing in a bunch of enemies and spike balls everywhere. Also, unless it's like a bunch of typos in rapid succession, typos will never be sins.
@newguy371
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 In addition to what you said, there's no save. You have to play all the levels in one go.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
@@newguy371 Didn’t know that.
@multifandomfangirl9664
2 жыл бұрын
Sonic Heroes is underwhelming but a good underwhelming It definitely had more Positives than negatives Still better than Free Riders
@koffibentum7452
Жыл бұрын
Why compare this game to Free Riders of all things
@susiehaltmann3342
2 жыл бұрын
(Last one) For the transformation you do have a point but it’s still literally almost a whole minute like I tried to see if I could do 50 jumping jacks in the time it took for him to finish transforming and i won
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Oh come on, it's not so bad. I've sat through the cutscene myself, and it didn't feel that long.
@castleoffiction96
2 жыл бұрын
31:05 Not what he was doing at all
@TrimpingSku11Cracker
2 жыл бұрын
Introducing: A comment sin! 43:04 (pause here) Sorry to burst your bubble pal, but it clearly says that Neo Metal Sonic used the Master Emerald to transform into SUPER Neo Metal Sonic. And as for the transformation, it is still currently unknown, but from a presumably fanmade sonic biography on Metal, he took the models of the other Metal Sonic creations (I.e Silver Sonic) and constructed this look. I might be wrong on the look, but hey.
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
You’re not the first person to tell me that. I looked into it further, and the Sonic Wiki says that Neo Metal Sonic is the result of him copying everyone’s data.
@aureliamastergoomba1278
2 жыл бұрын
22:58 THAT IS A MOMENT TO ADD 20
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
27:30 Aiai from Super Monkey Ball shows up in the first Sonic Riders game, Amigo is in Sonic Pinball Party and Zero Gravity. And while technically not a monkey Tangle the Leemur appears in Sonic Forces: Speed Battle Also the Coconuts badnik had to be based on SOMETHING. In fact during Knuckles’ story in Sonic Adventure you have to destroy a caged Coconuts with the “Monkey destruction switch”
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
Aiai and Amigo are from other Sega properties thrown in there for fan-service, and even involving a lemur in a discussion about monkeys is kind of insulting to lemurs. The Coconuts Badnik is the only instance of any in universe monkeys appearing, and that’s a robot.
@DaRealAG_YT
2 жыл бұрын
me and this game does share a bday
@superlombax1561
2 жыл бұрын
4:26 Yeah. Get em, Tony!
@robotnikcentric64
Жыл бұрын
Nice vid, really enjoyed many of the witty and rational pointers in the whole video, especially the retorts of the nitpicking and... Inappropriate jokes they made. 3:24 Also about that, there was no good voice of Tails? Then what about Tails in Sonic Satam?? (He was pretty decent)
@tonysonic456
Жыл бұрын
I was mainly referring to the games. SATAM Tails was just a generic kid.
@robotnikcentric64
Жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 Lol I see what u mean. I also agree with SATAM Tails being a regular kid sidekick, but at least it's better than having a downright BAD voice line of Tails I have to admit. Personal preferences are one thing, but the future voices of Tails did improve the voicing after this game we can't deny that as a fact. AOSTH Tails is definitely a wacky case of "so bad it's funny" despite the voice of Tails, who was also a kid for the time, gave it his all to have fun with the voicing of Tails.
@robotnikcentric64
Жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 I brought this up cause you said 4KIDS, so that wasn't a game either and I had to bring it up
@tonysonic456
Жыл бұрын
@@robotnikcentric64 Because the 4KIDS voice cast for Sonic X was the cast that replaced the Adventure Era cast.
@robotnikcentric64
Жыл бұрын
@@tonysonic456 Good to know! I sincerely appreciate the enlightenment
@Skypatroller_BenCD
Жыл бұрын
19:49 can we get much higher? So high! (Sorry i had to)
@smashmaster9631
Жыл бұрын
Sin 169 is the 30 sin points, and while it may not be it, it still has it
@Poindexstar
2 жыл бұрын
42:47 wait a minute that's not from heroes that's from the idw battle for angel island plotline where we even get a pretty neat super neo metal sonic deign
@glennparker7028
10 ай бұрын
29:44 The Chaotix theme song is an absolute banger!!!!!!!
@cdplaygame1992
2 жыл бұрын
I miss my game cube and my Wii,I have my switch now.
@hafiz2796
2 жыл бұрын
If your reading this use the power character for the special stages trust me
@tonysonic456
2 жыл бұрын
I actually did use the power character whenever there were three rows of balls together. It didn’t help much.
@decimatorentertainmentstud8523
Ай бұрын
Chariii and his friend seem to have the smallest attention spans. No wonder nobody finds them funny anymore
@glennparker7028
10 ай бұрын
21:34 Where did Dark Tony Got that shotgun from?
@Prestonthefox
2 жыл бұрын
24:04 and plus that line will always show up becuse its the only line will show in this battle so yah eggman calling team rose boys isnt anybodys fault
@ARCtheCartoonMaster
Жыл бұрын
42:36 Also, did it ever occur to him that *maybe* Metal Sonic was feeling down, and that's why he was speaking in a lower tone? Hoo boy, he's gonna flip out when he sees an interview with Rowan Atkinson, wondering why Rowan only sounds *vaguely* like Zazu.
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