Out of curiosity, what was your process when you installed it? What compound/polish and coating prep spray did you use?
@knightautopcd
2 ай бұрын
@@jeffc6832 it got a full decon, iron remover, clay, at that time we used 3D compounds and polishes and used Angelwax Perfect Polish to jewel piss out of it ... and panel prep I'm 90% sure I used PDP Panel Wipe (which I've used for years for non fireball coatings with no issues) but there is a chance I used fireball reborn ... I did do a 5 part video series of going after it, buying it and making it look as perfect as possible without your ego getting in the way ... now we are Angelwax compounds and polishes (believe they are better and we all know how much of a chore 3D one is to wipe off) .... As for the process to install it, used the foam applicator, but when it was applied it disappeared not flashed within seconds of application which I thought was weird but was the first time using it and all coatings are different and it was easy, but it didn't stay wet like I've seen in other videos and then flash off and disappear - it disappeared within 15 seconds of application ... was 70-75° on the day of application - nothing there than the way it disappeared so far to (at least now) to raise a concern over. Thanks for watching and your feedback!
@Staticx888
2 ай бұрын
Hi, was there any follow up to this ?
@knightautopcd
2 ай бұрын
@@Staticx888 we should have a follow up video out next week on it sometime! Thanks for watching!
@davidboyce6427
4 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see how DIY handles this. Appreciate you sharing this video 👍
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
I'm in the process of collecting some info and recommendations and we'll have to strip the protection we did put on it in the meantime - so we we'll see 🤷🏻♂️
@diydetailofficial
4 ай бұрын
@@knightautopcdwhat toppers were used?
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
@@diydetailofficial ceramic gloss ... one time may have been Brian / Apex Detsils BC3 but I'm not 100% sure on that ... I'm 99% sure it was always Ceramic Gloss
@404notfound.....
6 күн бұрын
So john, what the update??
@knightautopcd
4 күн бұрын
@@404notfound..... a part three update is coming
@bige7322
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm looking forward to DYI's response on this. I subbed and will watch for an update.
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and watching / subbing!
@DelgadoDetailing
4 ай бұрын
That's so weird man! I installed one 8 months ago and it's still beading like day 1. Maybe you got a bad batch
@user-oe2dc6ow8q
4 ай бұрын
Wow. Thanks for being honest, but yet still giving the manufacturers a chance respond prior to running their name through the mud. Stay honest and true and don’t turn into a product pusher on here and let your business and honesty bring you success.
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback! We don't intend to! We want to be just an honest no bs no frills kinda channel! Thanks for watching!
@dekkerlundquist5938
4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing how DIY respond to this...
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
We have a couple responses but want to do one thing in the next video before going public with them - thanks for watching!
@rubenharris9241
4 ай бұрын
This coating is probably on thousands of vehicles globally by now…..with as many happy customers. Gotta love the internet…
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the feedback but with all due respect the same can be said about everyone who buys F11 and it doesn’t last one wash and claims to be some form of ceramic protection - but with that being said we have reached out to DIY and will be doing a follow up video - thanks for you feedback and for watching!
@tommyholt3465
4 ай бұрын
That’s completely true. But my experience tells me that most people don’t know if their coating has failed or not. Concerns about contact angles, beading, fast sheeting, slow sheeting etc. are more the concerns of detailers and rare hyper enthusiasts who add tend to use toppers religiously.
@05xrunner
4 ай бұрын
You mentioned its not clogged but did you do all the steps to unclog after a winter. Iron with decon towel and then hit it with a proper water spot remover. The steps you mentioned I would not consider a decon to unclog a coating especially after a winter. To me it looks like its still clogged. Id be interested in seeing after those steps on how its reacting.
@charlesbrasington7599
4 ай бұрын
Noticed how he responded to the people that was praising him and not the ones that asked him about doing all the other steps i unsubscribed from his channel because their videos suck
@05xrunner
4 ай бұрын
@@charlesbrasington7599 yea something odd. 1 he didn’t do a decon at all and I am wondering about the install. He said it was perfect but never gave a break down on what. I have done DIY 3 on mine and 3 and 8 on buddies car and over a year later the 3 year still beads great.
@clints8888
4 ай бұрын
very strange, why does the front fender look so good? did you use any topper in 11 months? might be worth a water spot remover like “jamie the cleaner” just did.
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
It is and yes it's been maintained 3x in 11 months plus the topper on top of the install so I don't get it - I was in a severe time crunch today as we were getting to drive it out of town so I'll be removing the topper we put on it for the meantime (I mean why not at least try to protect what's there if anything) and trying a few things and if they don't work I'll have to consider it failed and thanks for watching!
@lrocco
4 ай бұрын
Water Spot remover to fight the layer of minerals and coating will be back.
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
That's going to be in the next video, and like we keep saying, if we owe any apologies they will come with my face on camera doing a proper apology - thanks for the feedback and watching!
@diydetailofficial
4 ай бұрын
@@knightautopcdno need for an apology, in this video there is clearly an issue, we will work together to solve it.
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
@@diydetailofficial well I just wanted to reiterate it in the comments - not trying to bash anything it's not the way we roll however IF we've made a misstep and owe it to whomever for whatever that's just what we do - so as a business owner I do appreciate it and we can figure it out
@AmirAbdullah
4 ай бұрын
Did you use the Waterspot remover after the wash ? I didn’t see a follow up wash I’m just skimming through the video. Did you do a formal decon wash ( no clay, but iron remover and a normal wash followed by a waterspot remover ? If so then yeah this particular coating died. And sometimes it happens, sometimes the coating goes on good and adheres but somewhere along the way panel prep doesn’t get all wiped off, the coating took a substantial beating from weather , hard water , a sealant was used prior and it’s sitting flat on the coating. Or sometimes the coating just fails for whatever reason and the brand needs to take responsibility for it ans help make the situation right.
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
Not yet but we are going to, we did use our strip wash on it to remove any existing toppers off of it to see what we were working with so when we did the equivalent of carpro descale we knew there wasn't any existing toppers present - We did top it with Ceramic gloss then just to give it some sort of protection if the coating had truly failed It's the vehicle I'll get it back here as soon as I can we've exploded with business so it might be a few weeks before I get the follow up filmed and posted
@AmirAbdullah
4 ай бұрын
@@knightautopcd Yeah just know Descale isn’t the best at descaling. In fact if I was you I’d use Owners Pride “Spotless” after a full chemical decon before declaring it dead. Especially if you used a topper on it which are significantly weaker and will clog and hold on to minerals. Which need to be cleaned monthly unless it has signs of proper protection. But yeah man good luck to you on your mission.
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
@@AmirAbdullah it was actually Fireball PH3 but yeah the full chemical decon has been done minus the water spot remover… i did look at it after driving over the weekend it did have some water spots BUT it did rain so idk if they were just fresh from the rain or were already there, but I doubt the latter I would’ve seen them 🤷🏻♂️… we shall see
@danielarthurs4173
4 ай бұрын
Did you use diy panel prep before install or did you mix products?
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
Did not use diy panel prep, as you cannot buy it in gallons - you're strapped to pint bottles and as a business model paying $250 a gallon via 16 oz is insanse but, even take Brian over at Apex he uses one brand of prep for any coating he does so that doesn't worry me that much - and we either used fireball reborn or pdp panel wipe - done 100's of coatings with either never an issue
@nenadbokan5758
4 ай бұрын
Great vid , unbaised. Thanks
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! We try to have all our videos be unbiased! Only way to be! Thanks for watching!
@The1Music2MyEars
4 ай бұрын
Scott HD's KZitem channel. Just going to leave that there
@tylerboss7792
4 ай бұрын
An 8 year coating should definitely last the first year 100% with quarterly maintenance washes
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
Yes indeed it should! We are going to be trying a thing or two that was mentioned by DIY next week and a few other installers, and while we are hopeful we are wrong, and I'll be honest, if we're wrong I'll say it in the next video on this coating / Jeep face to face with the camera and apologize but if we aren't wrong.. it is what it is sadly... Thanks for watching!
@knightautopcd
2 ай бұрын
Part 2 Just dropped ... Yvan said to try water spot remover (so did a lot of people) so that's what we did... You tell us... did it make a difference ?!?! kzitem.info/news/bejne/k2uLz5iogGuIdYo
@attomicfpv122
4 ай бұрын
Acid based shampoo? I think this might be your problem.... "shampoo with a stronger pH value can neutralize paint protection, including ceramic coating."
@knightautopcd
4 ай бұрын
That was used AFTER your normal ph neutral and is meant to unclog a coating, now certain shampoos that are formulated to remove waxes and sealants will def get removed depending on tbe ph scale but typically those are in the 9-10 range on the ph scale which actually makes them alkaline but this was ph 3 ... and for watching!
@05xrunner
4 ай бұрын
you are terribly wrong. An acid based shampoo will NOT damage a coating in anyway. Even if the shampoo claims its a low PH of say 3 by the time you add in the water its probably closer to a pH of 5. Most acid based shampoos I would consider are for light decon and do not dig in deep to unclog or remove minerals like a water spot remover will do for the coating
@CleanerCars
4 ай бұрын
That's all water spot remover is, acidic soap. It may kill some weak coatings, 8 year should not be considered a weak coating.
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