What would be great is a comparison of the Watch Club kit versus a comparable kit that you put together on your own. You could talk about how long it took you to find all the tools, parts, and the experience of getting them all delivered. I think that would be a more compelling way to demonstrate why the Watch Club kit is not worth it.
@mj45532
Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@burninghenry
Жыл бұрын
with that being said (perfectly), do you know any options or has anyone scrolling found any?
@allanmyslak4472
Жыл бұрын
@@burninghenry Because I don't have the time and patience to actually try to put together a kit on my own, I don't have a useful answer. If I were to try to assemble a watch on my own, I'd just buy one of these or from one of the other sites that sell kits.
@explosev6513
Жыл бұрын
Sure it might not be worth it in your sense if you break down all of the parts, but so aren’t most all in one kits. The value of DWC is that they give you everything you need in tools, parts, tutorials, presentation, and make absolutely great gifts.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
13 күн бұрын
You can buy everything they sell for cheaper and still give it as a gift, plenty of videos explaining how to drop a movement into a case and add hands, you’re not doing hard work here, stop acting like they’re giving you the ability to do something that isn’t readily accessible for less
@ryoho1
Жыл бұрын
I bought the same explorer kit as this video about a year ago. There was a small issue with the kit, but their customer service was very professional and dealt with it promptly. Even with the small mishap, the kit was totally worth it for me, since I was a complete novice. Sure you can get all the individual parts way cheaper, but you'll have to spend a lot more time researching tools, parts, and instructions. This kit pretty much eliminates all that hassle for an extra premium. It took less than an hour for me to assemble my first watch using the kit, and I'm still using it to assemble other watches. Namoki is also a great alternative, similar tools but higher quality dials & hands. They have some basic instructions but not in-depth videos like DIYWC. Definitely a good option if the DIYWC kit you want isn't on sales.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
There are plenty of aliexpress stores that dont require any research and give you all the parts to choose from that will work together. Far more options for much less money.
@cosmodoc
Жыл бұрын
I think it is worth it for the convenience, if it is your first built, you don’t have any tools yet and you get it at a discounted price. If you then enjoy it, you can make another one with parts from other sources.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
It’s far from a discounted price
@cosmodoc
Жыл бұрын
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel I got it for $170
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you could by those parts for about $85 on aliexpress and then buy a real tool kit and still be under $170
@cosmodoc
Жыл бұрын
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel I still think that for a beginner, it is a more convenient all-in-one option that I am happy to pay a premium for, but only once
@Mr-R.R.
Жыл бұрын
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel so what you're basically saying is that it is worth it. A beginner isn't going to source every little thing or have the know how to source well. Either way, you're still paying below market value with the kit becuase you're having to do it yourself.
@RicDrgn
Жыл бұрын
I agree about the second hand and the refrence number on the dial. As someone who hasn't built a watch yet, I still think I'll go with DIY. I don't mind paying a premium for a less stressful experience with a high probability for succsess. You have already gone through the learning curve so it seems like a waste of money, makes sense. I'm sure if I stick with it my second purchase will be somewhere else. As for the scratched hands...don't they supply a second set? I appreciate your input.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
I have a video from last year when I did it for the first time just from someone’s KZitem video and it was just as easy. Honestly, it was easier because the product was better quality wise.
@RicDrgn
9 ай бұрын
I bought a DIY just after this video and and have assembled several more from ebay parts. My opinion now is the DIY watch experience was great from the quality of the tools to customer service which was responsive when you consider the time change and the final product which is currated nicley . To get a watch with all the lumes matching and a nicer leather strap than I have been able to find on ebay, I'm happy with the purchase. I still wouldn't buy a watch with that second hand but it seems like you manhandled those hands to get all the scratches? Sure you could do it a lot cheaper but having all the research done for you is worth it IMO.@@NotAnotherWatchChannel
@KennyPowers21
Жыл бұрын
This is the sloppiest build I’ve seen from someone posting from DIY. Did you even clean the dial or hands before casing the watch? There’s dust and smudges all over those parts 1:11 which the instructions do a good job of explaining how to prevent /clean. Makes sense why you had scratched hands, my guess is that you went rogue and didn’t follow or stopped following the instructions. I had a similar kit, first time builder, I didn’t run into any of the issues you listed. For a first time watch builder DIY has it all from parts, instructions, tools, etc. You really want someone who has never built a watch to purchase a bunch of parts off of Ali express and hope that they all work together? Way easier for the average person to just buy a kit.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
The hands are not dust, those are scratches and thats how they came. The rest was followed by the books. Aliexpress has kits just like this, you dont need to go picking random parts and hoping they work. The tools they provide here are not good enough for what they want. I paid for the upgraded ones as well and the second hand pushers are AWFUL. They dont include a dust blower, the rodico is great at times but more for holding items.
@FreddieTheRobot
Жыл бұрын
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel You verbatim said in the video "scratched during installation"
@markfung5654
2 ай бұрын
I tend to agree, it's not worth it. Even if I stuff up and buy the wrong stuff, I can just buy another. As well if I break something. Just reorder. It's even easier than assembling IKEA furniture. Bought a few tools, tweezers, blower, etc. and extra hands. You don't need much and I'm still ahead. I could buy the makings for two watches 1 tool set and extra hands and have a bit leftover.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Ай бұрын
Exactly! People are acting like it’s rocket science. You’re not building a movement, you’re putting on 3 hands and dropping it in a case. A 2 min KZitem video sums it up perfectly.
@adamarzo559
Жыл бұрын
You provided nothing as an alternative except telling people to go on ali express. You did not think this video through, did you? I saw watch club on an ad on shorts and searched for them and found this. As someone who NEVER would have thought to try and build a watch before it seemed great but you've turned me off it. I don't want to be "ripped off". I am sure plenty others feel the same way. People don't want to spend hours sourcing parts themselves to experience this. Which is why watch club is so appealing. So either provide a better solution or calm down, chief.
@---td4ff
Жыл бұрын
Your right the tools and parts on them I got from them were Meg and I have build cheaper watches of much better quality from ebay parts...but I also had no damn idea of what I was doing and the kit was my gateway into modding and researching those compatible parts. I think the company has a place in the modding community. It sparks interest.
@comradehox4006
Жыл бұрын
I have asked people whether DIY watch club is good or not, people have recommended saying its great if you want to get into it, they even have some sales to buy their products unlike Namokimods, which is really expensive and dont have a sale but seems like provide better tools and quality. DIY Watch club I guess is a good way to get into it honestly, go for the cheapest option which I found for $153, and start building it. If you seem to enjoy it, pickup tools on the way from Amazon/eBay.
@FreddieTheRobot
Жыл бұрын
Just a note about the "sale"... I've never seen their kits not on sale. I think it is a marketing tactic to make you feel a sense of urgency to buy the kit; but every time I check, the "sale" hasn't changed at all. Don't look at the original price, it means nothing. If the quality of the parts are so bad when you got them, why not ask for a replacement kit? Looking around at other videos I see lots of people with the same kit and the parts don't look scratched or marred at all. So either this was user error or you got a bad kit and probably could have gotten a replacement.
@walther9161
Жыл бұрын
To help keep scratches off hands, use rodico or carbon or bamboo tweezers… you also get the tools I think so maybe that adds to the cost. I haven’t done a diw product and might look further into it based on your vid. Good to see both sides😊
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
The tools are pretty lackluster for what they cost, I even paid for the better set and it’s only got one screwdriver, too large to even use for sizing bracelets. Buying the parts separate from another source is 100% the move
@Mambrax444
Жыл бұрын
interesting. You mentioned Allly express part. Do you have part list we could check and get our own opinion? Thanks,
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
I use this store, they make it very easy miuksi Official Store a.aliexpress.com/_mqNyc2q
@travelingmonkslife9560
Жыл бұрын
Sooo? your complaints is the aesthetics and that the cheap Chinese Aliexpress components are cheaper? Others could say that the aesthetics of your own built watch is not appealing as the bracelet doesn't match the colour of the watch housing although both claiming to be the same material. You also didn't take into account the experience of building it your self, knowing that the parts and the tools are going to work together, so no mismatches that require another 6 weeks for the delivery of next components. Surely that has a value to it for the inexperienced? After all thats why we build them (the experience) not to just do things on the cheap. You could have even compared the build it yourself models against the professional ones to really slag the hell out of it if that was your goal. I think the only fair way to assess the value would have been better to review the DIY watches vs NamokiMods, or something similar to see if there is a difference in quality, price and experience.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
People have done that and shown namokimods are miles ahead in quality.
@lovelydogstar
6 ай бұрын
It may be a good choice for the experience of making a watch yourself, but I think it's too expensive for the value of the watch. The reason why luxury watches are expensive is that they are handmade by artisans, but I think this watch is too expensive even though I have to make it myself
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
6 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly my point. You’re paying more for the parts than if you buy them on your own and then have to assemble it.
@michaelcannon3172
7 ай бұрын
Buy the parts online in the uk for £70.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
7 ай бұрын
Yup!
@rockymntdan1
Жыл бұрын
Wow; you really struck a nerve with most people here. Talk about the power of branding the cattle. I for one am grateful you pointed out the "rip off" in quality. And for the whiners talking about a kit. A better alternative would be Namoki, by far.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
Yeah kinda surprised by how many people go to bat for them, makes me a tad suspicious.
@rogerfairhurst8705
9 ай бұрын
You are the only "expert" or novice who has slated DIYW to be found on youtube, That makes me a tad suspicious. Get serious or talk about something you actually know something about.@@NotAnotherWatchChannel
@michaelbell2616
9 ай бұрын
So you're sponsored by Ali Express yeah?
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
9 ай бұрын
If I was you’d see affiliate links, so not even remotely
@juvasaditya6384
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the elaborate insight on this brand. Can you link the parts for the Explorer replica or make a video on it?
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
I have a video assembling it, was late last year
@mirror1766
Жыл бұрын
Assembly was shown in kzitem.info/news/bejne/mqKXvnWin3l6qpg and comparison/feelings about results in kzitem.info/news/bejne/2G6drappn5SXhmU but parts were not specifically linked.
@matth8205
Жыл бұрын
I think people pay for the convenience and they make nice kits for gifts. Yes you could easily shop around for the parts and get them cheaper and you could also choose all your tools and then buy a case etc to keep them in. I’ve done both and I’d still say for someone wanting to give it a try that DIY Watchclub is a good starting point.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
Paying for convenience is fine, just don’t make the argument that it’s not overpriced for what you are getting…
@matth8205
Жыл бұрын
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel maybe you could do a video with a list of the better parts and costs as a comparison people would probably appreciate that 👌🏻
@coreywinney8974
Жыл бұрын
I debated about DIY watch club. Having specs of dust under the crystal and scratches like that would bug me. Sure you're the only person who can see it but the fact that those imperfections are there because of you and not the manufacturer it's like you have nobody to blame but yourself. For the amount of money they charge for a kit you can get a watch already built for those prices. If there is a QC issue you can return/exchange. Definitely not worth it.
@sidewinded1
Жыл бұрын
i was in the same boat but just went for it and bought it. To me at least, it is well worth it, gives you a good idea about how watches work, and is fun to put together. The kit gives you rodico and if you have an air purifier plus a clean work space, it is quite easy to avoid getting dust in the case
@manuel_winde
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the idea is that you get a watch from DIY instead of buying a ready made watch- the idea is that you get to put it together im yourself. I like when someone asks about it and I can say “I kinda made it”. I got one as a gift from someone who knew I liked watches, got one for my cousin for his birthday and recently got another as it was in the sale for £110. If you see dust you can remove it easily enough- I’m a lot more confident to do that with my DIY watch than any other watch that had an imperfection on the dial (and I’ve seen it on much more expensive watches- many will not fix it under warranty either).
@malikwingfield5264
Жыл бұрын
Take accountability and do it better next time
@nicklesyoutube
Жыл бұрын
You know you could’ve picked a different style from their site if you hated the minute/hour hand
@perrybucsdad
Жыл бұрын
So other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play? 😃 I don't know... is the DIY watch expensive, sort of... but part of what you are paying for is the convenience of everything being together, all the tools you will need, all the parts working together, and all of the instructions in one place. Sure, you could piece that all together yourself if you have built one before, but for someone who has never done this, I think you are paying for that learning experience. I will give you that their customer service seems a little iffy. I know I have some questions on a few things, and I have not heard anything back form them yet. I just wrote to them yesterday, so hopefully they will respond as otherwise, I won't consider buying from them.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
Plenty of KZitem vids out there that will walk you through making any watch you want in the same fashion. The tools they include are garbage and you need to pay to get the better set, so that’s the same as just buying it yourself. You’d have to try real hard to buy nh35 parts that don’t work together so it’s really quite simple esp with the help that already exists on the internet
@Mr-R.R.
Жыл бұрын
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel plenty of people that don't want to do that. You're paying for convencience. It's worth it
@Hadrian9707
11 ай бұрын
At first, I was thinking that you were being a bit too harsh on them, but after watching other vids and realizing that all you get in this highly expensive kit is the outer shell parts of the watch and an already built movement portion; I definitely agree that it's a huge waste of time and money... I wanna be able to build a watch up from scratch; not put together the last 10% of the watch and learn how to fix some stuff with it...
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for getting it; that was my literal point. You’re buying the parts at a massive mark up when you can use the same videos and buy the same parts elsewhere for significantly less
@YouTookMyAccountName
6 ай бұрын
This concept to me is like buying food ingredient kits from Hello Fresh that you still have to cook, as opposed buying the ingredients at the supermarket
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
6 ай бұрын
Yes very similar but those are prices fairly honestly. It’s like doing one of those kits but getting charged 6x for all the ingredients.
@sindrejl
Жыл бұрын
Isnt it a bit harsh to call it a total rip off in the index, just because "I dont think its worth it"..?
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
No, it is a rip off, you can get every for much less.
@WiskeyWatchsGames
Жыл бұрын
I built 1 me fixed over 20 myself and I felt is was another solid piece. I do wish the hands were different which I bought from somewhere else. But it’s all bash and nothing positive to say.
@imnugget8085
8 ай бұрын
I think you need to think of it as a traning corse compare to any school the cost alone is like me taking 1 step into college price wise 😂
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
8 ай бұрын
I get that, but KZitem has a million videos on how to do it and where to get the parts and will give you the same exact experience but cheaper
@bravozero6
Жыл бұрын
I mean a company has to make money you can find part for literally anything cheaper than what a company selling you a product would sell to you
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
Sure, but it’s not like you’re buying a product here that you can make cheaper, you’re just letting someone else send you the parts and pay more for them. I didn’t say you could make a MacBook cheaper buying just the parts because there is a benefit to a product that is made well regardless of if you can do it yourself cheaper but their watches are just the parts sent to you to do yourself. The point is just buy them yourself and you will get the literal same experience for half the price.
@joshuajacob6402
Жыл бұрын
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel Rather just buy an assembled watch from a reputable brand for the money they are asking for.
@pymandragore
Жыл бұрын
Wow how did you manage to scratch the minute hand and have dust everywhere on the dial without cleaning it? I mean seriously... I tend to agree with some of your arguments but the way you built it doesn't give credit to your video....
@gunjja13
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you! Thank you for making this video.
@duncandixon6203
5 ай бұрын
The model number and their crappy ass logo on the dial pisses me off. Just off that, ill never buy from them. Their website is only good for inspiration
@MikeB-ng3ol
6 ай бұрын
Man you scratched the shit out of that watch...
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
6 ай бұрын
Shit happens
@vincentferreira1135
Жыл бұрын
Okay, some of your criticisms make no sense. First, you say you don’t want a DIY Watch Club ad on your wrist. Okay, what do you think a Seiko or Rolex or Omega or ANY other watch is? Second, the convenience of being able to get everything together in one box and not having to wait a month for it to come from China, if it even gets there at all is going to const you more. That’s like going to a restaurant to have somebody else prepare your food and then complaining that it costs more than cooking at home. Third, this is a good step for the person who maybe is into watches, but doesn’t know or want to get into the intricacies of looking for the right dial, hands, movements, case, strap/bracelet, crown, stem and tools that go along with it. This is a way better choice than those Watch Gang “Watch of the Month” subscriptions, especially the $299 ones. Those five you shit watches that aren’t worth the subscription price you’re paying for them each month and, at least with DIY, you get to, well, DIY.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
First off, I dont want their ad on my wrist because I dont support their brand. All my parts from Aliexpress came in a little over a week and in the same box. And its nothing like your restaurant comparison, its more like going to a restaurant that makes you cook your own food there, and then charges you double to do it. Watch gang is also garbage. Why are you people so viciously loyal this brand?
@user-vq5gu6ge9x
Ай бұрын
If you don't like certain aspects of the watch then don't buy it. don't complain about scratching components when you're the one putting together and obviously doing something wrong. Quit complaining about a quality product
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Ай бұрын
How much are they paying you to come back their crappy product? Regardless of scratches, this is $75 worth of watch they charge 4x that, this is far from a fair and quality product
@user-vq5gu6ge9x
Ай бұрын
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel it's not $75 dollars worth. Even if it was, that's not how the market works. The components go through many buyers, getting slightly more expensive each time. I have bought many watches from this company with another on the way, and the quality is excellent. I recommend actually watching the instructional content since you keep messing up your watches. It is a fair and quality product. You just can't see it.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Ай бұрын
You unfortunately don’t know what you are talking about. You can buy all these parts on allexpress for $75-100, they are ripping you off. They are the same people and factories selling the Chinese watches for under $100
@abdulazizalhajeri7143
13 күн бұрын
I smell jealousy
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
13 күн бұрын
The fact that yall can’t objectively see a rip off is quite sad
@edwingarcia1786
Жыл бұрын
I think its worth it, and I had fun putting it together. This guy is full of BS
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
How am I full of BS…?
@alexf9507
10 ай бұрын
This video did nothing to convince me that DWC isn't worth it. And judging by the comments, most others agree.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
10 ай бұрын
If you don’t see the value in saving money, getting the same parts, and tons more options then that’s on you buddy
@alexf9507
10 ай бұрын
@NotAnotherWatchChannel it's not about saving money obviously. It's about ease of access. That's the part you don't seem to understand.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
10 ай бұрын
@alexf9507 it’s just as accessible, you can follow the literal same videos or the thousands online. There are more people than you can imagine selling all the parts easily so you know what you’re getting. They don’t save you any time and effort with these kits
@alexf9507
10 ай бұрын
@NotAnotherWatchChannel that makes zero logical sense. You're telling me it would be easier, as a beginner, to figure out on my own all the different parts I would need by watching however many videos. Not to mention the different tools needed. Then, I have to go and buy each part individually and make sure I'm getting them at a price that makes sense which requires cross referencing different sellers and comparing prices. Then, on my own I have to find the right videos to watch to show me exactly what I need to know to put the parts together. I can do all that OR I can buy a kit like the one sold by DWC and get all of that in one nice looking and convenient package.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
10 ай бұрын
@alexf9507 as I’ve said, you don’t need to do that. There are plenty of places that will sell you all the parts that fit together based on movement without you needing to know anything. You clearly know how to work KZitem, you can find how to put hands onto a watch, that’s all these kits are, you’re not building anything.
@c.f.875
Жыл бұрын
Aww poor watch snob
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
I think showing how to do it cheaper is literally the opposite of that…
@paradox_1729
Жыл бұрын
This is not much of a review. They give you all the kits that you dont have to spend time finding and then they teach you how to build it. Talking about how you dont like some specific part or design is also completely off topic. Very half assed.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
Жыл бұрын
The build of the watch is another video, that wasn’t the point of this video. Thanks for playing.
@DannyKaffee
4 ай бұрын
If I owned DIY Watch Club you would be getting a cease and desist letter for the claims made in the thumbnail and video. DIY Watch Club is a "scam"? Scam is defined as "a dishonest scheme; a fraud." And fraud is defined as a "wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain." So you are saying that DIY is engaging in wrongful or criminal deception. They are not. Then send you what they say they will send you. You've determined it's not good value for money. If that's your opinion, fair enough. But saying something isn't worth the money doesn't make it scam. But you are the typical click bait KZitemr who cares not one bit about accuracy as long as you get clicks. Disgusting.
@NotAnotherWatchChannel
4 ай бұрын
You clearly don’t understand the constitution or US law so I’m not even going to engage with your idiotic take. Tootles.
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