While I agree with you that it would have been REALLY nice to have aperture control, it's not as crucial to depth of field in landscape photography. At f1.8 with a focal length of 24mm on a 1" sensor, if you're focused on something just 90 feet away, your depth of field is 45 ft until infinity. Meaning, anything 45 feet and further will be in focus. So in terms of landscape photography, it doesn't matter that much, just make sure you're not something in the foreground that your drone is locking focus onto that's closer than 90 feet and everything in your landscape will be in focus. But let's say your drone focused on something half a mile away (2640 ft), your depth of field is still 87 feet until infinity. So anything further than 87 feet away will be in focus. I hear you that I would have loved aperture control, but it really isn't that crucial in terms of things being in focus. Shutter speed...definitely. Depth of field...not really.
@smc1377
3 күн бұрын
@@EvansNcube247365 Not even sure what you're talking about. You sure are making a lot of ASSumptions there buddy. I don't own this drone, I don't plan on buying this drone. I was simply correcting a statement. He said in reference to landscape/panoramic photos, "when you shoot that wide open, you know that your depth of field is going to be rather shallow". And that statement simply isn't true when it comes to landscapes. The formula for figuring out depth of field is brand agnostic. Doesn't matter if he's talking about DJI, Sony, Canon, Nikon, or GoPro, the math says that on an 1 inch sensor at 24mm at f1.8, if you focus on anything beyond 80'ish feet, everything beyond 40'ish feet will be in focus. Not sure why you came in so aggressive, I hope you heal from your trauma, bud.
@denaco
2 күн бұрын
keeping the shutter rule just isnt that important high up doing video (photography, it is more important for long exposure). people bang on so much about keeping it twice your frame rate when blur is only noticeable close to objects and the ground and when moving fast. i've had mine at 1/100 or at 1/200 at 30p and totally fine 30-40 meters high. it will look like a video game if i'm doing that at 10 meters high of course but i've resorted to adding slight motion blur in davinci then if shutter is a bit high. proper exposure is priority over blur and no way can you ever have the shutter dead right at x2 the frame rate all the time anyway. 30p and i can end up at 1/80, 1/100 or 1/50 and it's not an issue like people make it out to be.
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
@@EvansNcube247365what a stupid thing to say lol
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
@@smc1377couldn’t agree more. Simple facts. Don’t argue with idiots who aren’t educated.
@JBlakePhoto
Күн бұрын
I didn’t articulate that as clearly as I’d like. Stopping down often results in improved clarity and sharpness is most lenses. Not having the ability to stop down even a bit, is unfortunate.
@spacehopper77
Күн бұрын
I find it funny, when the Air 3 came out, the complaints were that it didn’t have a 1 inch sensor. Now that DJI has delivered the 3S with the requested 1 inch sensor the complaint now is that’s still not good enough. If anyone wants a drone with variable aperture then pay extra and get the Mavic.
@TimFilmsCars
2 күн бұрын
I appreciate an honest take! The bitrate issue is certainly a valid concern, but the footage looks plenty flexible in post. I wouldn't expect a variable aperture here, it's the Air line after all-also, DoF on a drone is mostly trivial because of the distances between you and the subject. Gotta disagree with the "not a pro drone" take, too. My Air 2S has been more than "Pro" enough for years.
@londenard
3 күн бұрын
Sigh, you can film 4k with less than a 20 mbps bit rate. The OG Mavic Pro shot in 40 mbps. The Phantom 4 Pro shot at 100 mbps. The Mavic 2 Pro shot at 100 mbps as well. You're getting lost in the idiotic "specs over everything, brah!" debate. I have the Mavic 3 and agree it's a WAY better camera than the Air 3/ 3s. It's not even close. However, the bitrate requirements of a 4/3rds sensor shooting at 5.1k/50 is a LOT more than a 1" sensor shooting 4k/60. Then you talk about the compression and processing. The bottom line is, we aren't seeing any artifacting in the footage so 130 mbps must be "enough"... I mean, it'll shoot in 4k120 so.
@lilipok3521
Күн бұрын
I might surprise you, but you actually can shoot 4K with 5 Mbps, it would just look terrible. As for the original Mavic, you’re just wrong - I have one, and it maxes out at 60 Mbps. We’re not talking about a small 20 Mbps drop here. If you looked at the data in the original Reddit post, you’d see that the Air 3S drops to around 60 Mbps at 4K 30, and that is already significant. Even if DJI’s new codec is supposedly 30% more efficient, the Air 3S should still be shooting at around 105 Mbps, not 60 (which is only 40% of the 150 Mbps that was available on the Air 2S)
@londenard
Күн бұрын
@@lilipok3521 Dang it!!! You're right I fat fingered it! I'd fix it but that wouldn't be fair to you so I'll endure the shame of my mistake... 60 is still less than 130 so... and 130 is still more than the Mavic 2 Pro and Phantom 4 Pro's 100 mbps. I'm well aware of how low you can go to record 4k... I tried to choose a less debatable number. If that makes sense. In any case, I have gigs of footage from the Air 3s. I know what it looks like... I have no idea who on Reddit you're referencing but I'm not sure why his word is gold? All the footage that has been posted, all the footage I've taken myself but some guy on Reddit knows better? Oh okay. I'll take a look at the bitrate numbers but honestly, what the footage looks like is far more important than the specs. I'm a HUGE fan of the Mavic 3. It's the best drone I've ever owned. Period. The Air 3s has a good camera and is a better flier but you're never going to get the same 3D pop you get from the M3. I'm more interested in the Mavic 4 to be honest... and the RC 2+/ RC 3.
@MrCezaryo
3 күн бұрын
Meeen If you need an adjustable aperture, you definitely have to buy the Mavic 3 Pro! Since when has DJI offered this feature in consumer drones? We knew from the very beginning that this option wouldn’t be available. They’ve never done it before, so why would they start now?
@ErichHarvey-r6t
2 күн бұрын
the rumors and leaks hinted at this being possibly available on the air 3s. People were seemingly excited for this level of control to come down to a more consumer (prosumer) level drone as it would eliminate the need for ND filters and provide more control on the fly in changing conditions. So yeah, they were incorrect rumors. But based on these rumors people didn't know the feature was not going to be available. Why would DJI start now? ...why did they bring active track, and obstacle avoidance, and any other feature that was previously on pro level drones to consumer level drones?
@denaco
2 күн бұрын
@@ErichHarvey-r6t aperture control does not negate nd filters. they will always be needed
@DjInfluencer
3 күн бұрын
Sorry to say but you have clearly no idea how to use an ND Filter. Normally you set it a bit too dark and then use ISO for correct lighting. Up to 800 Iso you wont see any bad Image even with one inch sensor. In worst case you can still go up with the shutter speed. 1/50 or 1/100 I bet most people cant spot a difference. Cheers and thanks for the video
@ErichHarvey-r6t
2 күн бұрын
But wouldn't it be nice if you didn't have to?
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
He clearly has no idea about many photographic/videographic principles based on his own statements.
@DJISupportGlobal
3 күн бұрын
Hi @JBlakePhoto, Thank you for your feedback. The DJI Air 3S utilizes the latest encoding algorithm, which optimizes the bitrate by over 30% while maintaining superior video quality. This allows users to save more storage space without compromising on the visual experience. It will not cause any loss in adaptive video quality. Meanwhile, we will also forward your idea to our related department for evaluation to enhance our products and services better and better. Thank you for your understanding and supporting!
@lilipok3521
Күн бұрын
We don’t need smaller file sizes, we need better quality. Please just add an update so we can choose the bitrate (in a 130 mbits range obviously) manually, similarly with what you did in an update of the action 5 pro
@DJISupportGlobal
Күн бұрын
@@lilipok3521 Hi there. Thank you for your feedback. We will forward your suggestion to our engineering team for further evaluation. Thank you for your understanding and support. If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact our support team.
@giusepperandazzo7782
3 күн бұрын
You are one of the few who are talking about the low bit rate, and I am in full agreed with you. Good job and analysis.
@XavierBaker
3 күн бұрын
Its actually good that they didnt add an adjustable aperture. That feature is reserved for their proffesional mavic lineup. Most people buying an Air arent buying it for proffesional work where its required.
@occristian1
3 күн бұрын
Jesus. How does your logic work ? “It’s good they remove features to create artificial product differentiation because I don’t use those features” Auto mode still exists for hobbyists. This is from a company that still makes you use the barebones fly app for their ‘pro’ devices. Features that I had 6 years ago in my old air1.
@XavierBaker
2 күн бұрын
@@occristian1 If they added an adjustable aperture it would literally kill the mavic 3. There would be no reason to have the mavic lineup anymore.( except for the 3/4 sensor) And for the record i do use those features on every shoot i do, and its a game changer. The fact is, DJI is still a company that needs to make profits and by making one of their flagship drones obsolete becuase they added all of the same features as their pro lineup to their mid range lineup they would lose profits.
@Unamatrix01
3 күн бұрын
Quite an interesting video.The DJI Air series has never had an adjustable aperture as that feature is reserved for the Mavic Pro line.I think DJI learned from their mistake made with the Air 2 and the massive upgrade that the Air 2S presents.The Air 3S does not instantly make the Air 3 obsolete as the Air 2S did with the Air 2.The Air 2S did however introduce two features that will be on the upcoming Mavic 4 Pro series which is the LIDAR sensor integration into the omnidirectional obstacle avoidance system. The other feature is Occusync 4 which will be the transmission system for the Mavic 4 Pro.The question now is when will the Mavic 4 Pro be released as it is next in line for an update.
@kernzilla
2 күн бұрын
feel like this vid is covering a lot of points that aren't overly surprising/relevant to 3s. Air line always been sweet spot for noobs/hobbyists/etc. its no surprise it doesn't have variable aperture, and seemed to be the meat of this video 🤷♂ it's a $1000 drone with more features than most will use. the folks who buy this either have no idea what ND filters do, or they're buying it as a backup ship for their biz knowing the limitations. want to like this channel, but always end up bewildered with approach/content.
@ilovephotography1254
3 күн бұрын
Well done review. Thank you for sharing your professional insights of the good and not so good features.
@avx111
3 күн бұрын
DJI is very clear about not wanting the Air series to compete with Mavic. Glad I got the Air 3 a year ago, will probably go for a Mavic 4 when I need it.
@mountainmoments
2 күн бұрын
i shoot mountains and weight is a big factor here, but not having a changeable aperture, no need to buy this one either. just have a small mini 3 for those non-pro shots then and save the weight and space (most travellers might know the issue)
@smc1377
2 күн бұрын
@@mountainmoments I'm curious, why do you need an adjustable aperture if you shoot mountains?
Күн бұрын
I didn't hesitate for a second to upgrade from the Air 3 to the Air 3s. 3 main reasons - flexible panorama of your choice (brilliant), inch sensor with wide lens, lidar. Sure, who wouldn't like an inch sensor on a tele camera, or even a variable aperture... But then what would they put in the Mavic line? :-D After the first few years and seeing the output, I'm excited. I have Mini 4 Pro, Avata 2, Neo too, but this it my favorite.
@kylecouture1917
3 күн бұрын
Its not a new drone. It's a mid cycle refresh. You people are expecting way too much. Every new iPhone that comes out is pretty much the same as the last one. Gaming consoles come out with pro versions as well. They won't put too many of the Mavic series features (like variable aperture) on the Air series because then they would be the same. This drone is phenomenal. Absolutely can be used for pro use. Just go watch any of the cinematic videos made by creators. There are a few with the Air 3s already and there are plenty of the Air 3 that are professional level quality.
@kernzilla
2 күн бұрын
most of the folks buying this drone likely have no idea what an ND filter even is. it's just a cool $1000 thing to take on vacation with to them
@CAMTechChris
Күн бұрын
Good video. BUT it is quite silly to complain that the Air doesn’t have variable aperture (or d log m). The air may series may never have va and it shouldn’t be a surprise. Like it or not DJI (just like any other tech company) is going to segment their products with features (like va or d log m).
@ronaldwilson9525
2 күн бұрын
DJI has the Mavic series for pros. With a pros price. That’s business.
@billmakesmovies
3 күн бұрын
I’ll be moving up to Air 3S from the Mini 2! Edited Mini 2 footy into a job today. Happy enough with that, and am glad I waited past Air 3 for Air 3S. That said, I will probably be eying a Mavic 4 when that comes too. And a Mini 5 Pro. I realize I am getting to buy into a pretty sweet time for drones, which I am stoked for. Only thing missing now really is a Pro controller with O4 for HDMI out.
@scottyzepplinphotography1188
2 күн бұрын
Uhmm variable ND filters mate.
@AndrewBentonElevationFilms
2 күн бұрын
Great video Joseph! It really depends on what "pro" means to you and what kind of work you plan to do with it. If pro means making movies to go on the big screen then you definitely need that fine aperture control. But if you are just doing commercial/weddings, 99% of customers will never notice the difference of increased shutter....except for jobs that require fast moving shots like a car commercial. So I think you can definitely used this drone to make money as a professional BUT it just means you will be limited in some cases and so I agree they absolutely need to add it in for the next iteration but I think this can be a very nice drone for a lot of videographers out there.
@NickPage
2 күн бұрын
Being able to use the old battery is huge… ordered on that alone!
@FieldingSmith
3 күн бұрын
And the Mavic 4 is already showing up in gov registration databases... Would love to see a dual m43 24/70 camera setup for that!
@jdogfunk100
3 күн бұрын
The camera is not the number 1 priority for all drone owners.
@fendrou
3 күн бұрын
It's not a zoom lens but a telephoto lens with 70mm focal length!
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
Smfh
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
The amount of people who are supposedly photographers/videographers who call the 70mm prime a zoom lens is insane.
@ralphjeswald1169
3 күн бұрын
Finally a balanced review. Nice job!
@londenard
3 күн бұрын
It's not a "review" if you don't have the product...
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
And balanced? Lol severe lack of basic photographic principles doesn’t sound balanced to me.
@pcoussa
3 күн бұрын
Hey Joe! You don't mention what microphone you use in your gear list? Did I miss It?
@ThePNWRiderWA
3 күн бұрын
I had the air 3 but sold it off. I shoot many stills and for that I have a autel evo ll v3. The Sony 1” sensor is the gold standard and it has an adjustable aperture 2.8 -11 and 12 bit DNG. I found the air a bit of an odd duck. Not as small or handy as the mini 4 which I carry in my day pack when on hikes. For the big video jobs I use the Mavic 3 pro. It has 200 bit rate etc. I try to use the right tool for the right job. The reason for the autel over the Classic DJI was Autel did not have geo fencing.
@jasonlindquistmedia
3 күн бұрын
damn I wouldnt even buy it just because of that 130 bit rate, crap. should be 200+
@kernzilla
2 күн бұрын
reality is, most of footage will end up on IG at 20mb, sooo likely this doesn't matter. this is prosumer drone at best, why u so mad at 130mb 🤷♂ would bet an unimaginable amount of money that you could not tell the difference between 130mb and 200mb footy on an IG reel or TT video. it's a $1000 drone, cannot expect much
@peacefulthrillseeker
3 күн бұрын
130 mbps simply will not cut it so whoever has an air 3 do not upgrade keep your bird. No software updates can replace sensor size or bitrate which is what DJI is trying to do with their “AI/new processing pipeline”. The Mavic 3 classic is still a great buy with a better sensor, variable aperture, DLOG, higher bitrate, etc.
@benjaminbrown7127
3 күн бұрын
I have a mavic 2 pro and super tempted to buy an air 3s. The mavic software is so dated. I really want a new drone. Do yall think the air 3s is an upgrade
@PaulChapman-j6v
3 күн бұрын
Reeeeeallly
@smc1377
3 күн бұрын
@@benjaminbrown7127 It kinda depends on what you shoot. But in most cases, yes. I think the REGULAR Air 3 is an upgrade from the M2P. I have both the Air 3 and the M2P and ever since I got the Air 3, the M2P has seen ZERO use. Sure, I sometimes miss the aperture control, but the upsides of the Air 3 way outweigh the downsides. And I use my drones professionally, my footage from the Air 3 has been in many TV shows, documentaries, films, etc.
@dronemagics7301
3 күн бұрын
@@smc1377 If you have some time, make a comparison with the M2P- "HQ video mode" and the Air3 video mode... you'll be very surprised. ;) I own an M2P and a Mavic 3 Pro and still has to carry both drones for shooting, because the M2P - HQ video mode is the BEST in terms of detail and resolution... ( but not in dynamic range, of course ). I am making a detailed video about this and try to get some explanation from DJI authorities why this is happening and why they didn't put a similar video mode ( 1.5x sensor crop - about 40mm focal length ) into any newer drones since then ....
@smc1377
3 күн бұрын
@@dronemagics7301 Oh yeah, definitely agree that if you were to pixel peep, the M2P HQ video mode would fare batter in terms of detail/resolution. And I'm thinking that the 5.1K video mode on the M3P is the equivalent of the HQ mode of the M2P. Because the HQ mode is essentially just a true 1:1 pixel recording without any resampling/downsampling, that's why there's a "crop" cause it's only using the center 3840×2160 pixels out of its 5472×3648 pixel sensor. Whereas on the M3P, the 5.1K video is using 5120 pixels across the 5280 pixel sensor. I'm assuming the 5.1K video mode is just like the HQ mode in that it is recording a 1:1 pixel ratio where there's no resampling or downsampling. But that's just an assumption based on number of available pixels. Surely they didn't bother downsampling 5280 horizontal pixels to 5120 horizontal pixels. That would make no sense.
@tomkosteg
Күн бұрын
Hi I just have a question about jdi oa5. Have you tested the new firmware that is released
@JBlakePhoto
Күн бұрын
I haven’t, but seeing reports that the rate has a real increase from 75 to 140+ and that image quality has improved significantly.
@ernesthall7121
3 күн бұрын
🗑️ I can’t stand when people can’t manage there expectations, ( Dual 1 inch sensors) ( Variable aperture ) really man It’s an upper mid tier drone, NOT a Mavic 3.
@MikeCorrigan1520
2 күн бұрын
Very fair review, but it is a refresh, not a redesign. It is by no means a Mavic series. It’s meant to stay in-between the mini and mav series. For the price point… damn good offering. Were there some compromises? Well yea, the crammed a-lot into this puppy… lidar, bigger internal storage, sleep mode transfer, night mode, increased ISO and DR stops… all for around the same price. Life is good. I was gonna wait for the Mav 4 series, but just doing the numbers its easily over a grand with care refresh, fly more package, but honestly, Mav series is too much drone for most users.. Reality: Its way too much for what they really need. We are not Professionals.. Dont care how many followers you have. Unless Hollywood is paying me… gonna keep my feet firmly on the ground and stick with the Air Series. ND filters and all…
@loubraga5800
2 күн бұрын
Excellent Review. I totally agree with you. It appears DJI is phasing out professional features from their consumer drones.
@londenard
Күн бұрын
The Air series never had those features so...
@KevinFuggi
2 күн бұрын
I don't think anyone should ever expect adjustable aperture in the Air lineup. That makes no sense from DJI because then why would anyone get the Mavic?
@bunkermagnus
3 күн бұрын
The ability to connect to the drone via USB-C while it's turned off is marketed as a new functions for the Air 3s, but it also works just fine for the Air 3.
@uptowndisco2
2 күн бұрын
I think he meant quick transfer , now works with the Air3S powered down .
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
You cannot send videos to your phone with the Air 3 turned off.
@uptowndisco2
Күн бұрын
@@dvobgo92 So as I understand it the Air3 S , if a battery is left in the 3S it will stay in a low power sleep for 12 hours, during the sleep time quick transfer will work without having to power up the done . Air3 does not have the same option
@JBlakePhoto
Күн бұрын
@uptowndisco2 that is correct. The off-state is good for 12 hours. But only works with the new batteries, not the Air3 batteries.
@jeffreyrh
3 күн бұрын
Just ordered mine so I hope it’s enough!
@SangheiliSpecOp
3 күн бұрын
Its the best drone on the market so its enough lol
@droneviewgis6699
2 күн бұрын
No 20MP photo and no adjustable aperture is making me look at the Mavic 3 Pro for the first time. My Autel EVO Lite+ 6k has both. Come on DJI, just add these in the next firmware update. Well, at least the 20MP photos. I can leave the ND8 or ND16 on permanently.
@joeychm
3 күн бұрын
This is not a 50 megapixel sensor. It is a 12mp sensor with pixel binning, a very slight improvement over the 12mp pics. The Air 2S had a true 20 megapixel sensor, far superior.
@DjInfluencer
3 күн бұрын
Yes I would be interested in a comparison Air2s vs Air3s main sensor. I think the Air2s still better option if you dont need the tele & its 200g lighter.
@mickue
3 күн бұрын
The sensor has native 50mp. 4 pixels can be binned for better low light perfermace so you end up with 12. Please don't spread missinformation.
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
Far superior because it had more Pixels? Loool
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
@@mickuethe number of People who do not understand Quad Bayer sensors and pixel binning is insane.
@ErichHarvey-r6t
2 күн бұрын
I 100% agree. I was actually worried how I was going to justify upgrading my Mini 4 to an Air 3S. the 70mm camera SHOULD BE enough but yet I've held off buying the Air 3 based on the portability of the mini. But I figured the rumors were probably right and the Air 3S would get an adjustable aperture. And that really would have been a game change. (At lest for me. i'm not professional but I don't have to be to want to use standard manual camera features for my own personal enjoyment.) ...but maybe no manual aperture IS a good thing. Now I'm feeling like I don't need to buy it lol.
@360PictureUK
3 күн бұрын
Hoping the Mavic 4 Pro will have all the missing features.
@Seismic78
3 күн бұрын
Man, it doesn't work like that. You simply can't compare apples and bananas, two different product lines. Mavic 4 Pro definitely will have loooots of features you won't see in Air nor Mini series. And you pay accordingly.
@360PictureUK
2 күн бұрын
@@Seismic78 I wasn't criticising the Air 3s, simply hoping that the upcoming Mavic 4 Pro has all the new features and More. I fly the Mavic 3 Pro at the moment and i'm looking forward to an upgrade.
@jesusgjchuza6491
3 күн бұрын
🤝
@geraldmcgivern6300
2 сағат бұрын
No H264 support in 4K video !!!!
@FPV4ALL
3 күн бұрын
I really like your videos and your honest opinion.
@j.a.3138
3 күн бұрын
This guy dont know wtf he is talking about. I have the air 3s and I can comment on it. The air 3s does everything.
@tuna1936
2 күн бұрын
It gives “they didn’t include me” right off the bat. I mean he said it. Feelings hurt
@ShawnGibsonLasVegasRealtor
2 күн бұрын
I agree. I just had to watch the first 15 seconds based off the title 😂
@andre1987eph
3 күн бұрын
Yeah a photographer needs aperture control
@proflex310
3 күн бұрын
Nope, for photography iso and exposure time settings if more than enough. Variable aperture is needed for videography to match framerate and exposure time
@SangheiliSpecOp
3 күн бұрын
ND filters
@unmannedflight
3 күн бұрын
Full of misinformation - Amazon (UK) have been able to deliver this drone next day since launch day. Purely for the clickbait, stopped watching after 1.41
@uptowndisco2
2 күн бұрын
I got mine from Amazon UK day after release , can't complain about that 🙂
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
Many, many wrong things in this video from pure ignorance and a severe lack of education of basic photographic principles.
@get.1.man.
2 күн бұрын
Its not for pro,s....buy a maverick dummy😂
@lacijunga
2 күн бұрын
they even turn down resolution from 5.4k to 4k nad as i can see in reviews, i think my air 2s has better image quality in video
@PNSPEWBOY
3 күн бұрын
I have an air 3. Ill skip this one, little to none improvements. Waiting for mavic 4
@dvobgo92
Күн бұрын
Yeah “no improvements” hahaha
@kristofeight9668
2 күн бұрын
To me all those upgrades are rather gimmicky, 1inch sensor gives you not much of the difference, the same 70mm sensor, useless internal memory, same speed in EU, don't know about LiDAR but to me after over a year that's really weak improvements. Those all camera specifications look like from last year smartphone, my google pixel 8 pro gives me much better video quality than air3s, shame and big disappointment
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