Unreal. This costs more than most radios used in fpv. Criminal, almost!
@UKDroneClub
4 ай бұрын
We are LOVING these teardowns 🤩
@jiatan_fpv
4 ай бұрын
So basically $200 for a bluetooth gamepad, got it! It should be possible to connect a logic analyzer to SPI bus of that RF chip and figure out what happens there protocol wise. Unfortunately it won't be possible to build your own for cheap unless the authentication/encryption keys are extracted from the main SoC..
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
Yep. It’s a rip off.
@ProjectFleek
4 ай бұрын
It should have come with the full kit to begin with, with the motion as the add on. They know how to get you.
@MrYoungspeeder
4 ай бұрын
The main thing is that it works and it’s AWESOME!!! I’m having a blast with the Avata 2. I’ve also found that my signal strength with the Avata 2 is much stronger compared to A1. Could it possibly be that all the signal strength is focused on goggles only instead of both goggles and controller? Anyway, thanks for the tear downs. Really useful information.
@TheOtakuMarksman
4 ай бұрын
I can’t believe I paid 200 bucks for something that empty….
@Arri.
4 ай бұрын
Your not alone 🤣
@NikiPetrovAtanasov
4 ай бұрын
Like the dildo controller that they force everyone to get it on their shelf. After I tried to sell it for pennies and no one had interest in it I've literally trashed my in the bin, brand new only one time use.
@Todd_G_FPV
4 ай бұрын
Sucker's lol I got the dji fpv kit used for great deal on ebay! Couldn't be happier eith it! Honestly I'd probably buy the avata 2 if I had the cash rn lol
@leo_dron
4 ай бұрын
I think the same
@hydros8626
4 ай бұрын
Aww shit, I already paid for a pre order
@Blueskyver
4 ай бұрын
Super interesting, and very much appreciated. Thank you!
@ProjectFleek
4 ай бұрын
They should've slimmed the case profile and made the materials higher end. Just got the controller 3, and it's $100 over priced forsure. Compared to a PS5 controller it feels cheap, bulky, and light. The rubber on the back doesn't even provide extra grip, feels just like plastic all around. Lame DJI, Avata 2 is awesome tho, is a total rip off to charge extra to get full acro. No reason it shouldn't be much more capable out of the box. Oh, and that geo zone crap doesnt help either, FCC mode is a must.
@_.-._.
4 ай бұрын
Would you do a motion controller teardown as well?
@Porculus
4 ай бұрын
This is why people need to watch videos right to the end before asking questions that the presenter has already answered. He said that he probably won't do it because that would result in some breakage to the Motion Controller 3.
@AymericPachod
4 ай бұрын
it's lovetoy, not motion controller
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
I have been trying to get into it tonight but still not joy.
@AymericPachod
4 ай бұрын
@@MadRC I'm not sure if I'm interpreting this correctly
@Pe5jJ9
4 ай бұрын
Good old DJI, charging the same for a cheap 2.4 Wi-fi controller as they do for the O3 predecessor. Avata 2 looks less appealing with every new video I see.
@irhuz8683
4 ай бұрын
Not to worry I'm beginning to wonder if I should sell mine ...
@JiajuChen
4 ай бұрын
Now the real question: why is the controller still just as expensive?😅
@JiajuChen
4 ай бұрын
Also does it mean the overall latency can be even lower if the controller still directly connects to the drone?
@BergeronFPV
4 ай бұрын
It’s because DJI at the root of the company stems from literal evil
@JohnCuppi
4 ай бұрын
Wow. Big profit for DJI on those units at a cost of functionality that should be there IMO in case of a goggle failure or issue. Very disappointing.
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
Yea DJI has big margin on this remote.
@LukeMaximoBell1
4 ай бұрын
So if you lose video feed you also lose goggles feed? That is quite bleak.
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
Yep correct on the Avata 2.
@NikiPetrovAtanasov
4 ай бұрын
Actually on Avata 1 I've had a few situations where the remote looses connection but the video is super stable, the drone didn't failsafe also I was unable to stop, pause or RTH as the remote was not available. So it's very freaky watching the drone flying forward in manual while have no control at all. Those breakups lasted about 1-2 seconds at most and then the signal and control came back. For comparsion on DJI FPV as soon I loose control or video the drone was failsafing, pausing immediatelly and then activating RTH.
@LukeMaximoBell1
4 ай бұрын
@@MadRC Then I'm definitely going to stick with ELRS for TX.
@matt0725
4 ай бұрын
I believe the remote already had worse range than the video for a lot of people before. I know for the standalone VTX’s almost everyone ends up moving to an ELRS/crossfire radio due to this
@Mt1Dmitriy
4 ай бұрын
considering no O-transmission unit inside, just one signle cell of a battery etc - the internal cost of production of such device for DJI should be no more than 40$... wow, this is some remarkable margin maintained here.
@anlpereira
4 ай бұрын
Great video series. You could get a NanoVna V3 and check the Antennas VSWR as they have UFL connectors. Thank you very much.
@Quad_Father
4 ай бұрын
I sold my AVATA 1 but do remember with the latest firmware I wasn’t able to fly anymore without the goggles connected with the rc or the motion controller. Was it communicating through the goggles integra?
@fauzanfsa
3 күн бұрын
Is there any way to adjust horizontal spring tension from inside?
@YUDHACOMPUTER
3 күн бұрын
Can i binding this rc3 to another drone non dji with O3 air unit ?
@richardb8492
4 ай бұрын
Are these changes to DJI’s transmission system their way of trying to stop people from using their equipment like the previous DJI goggles for anything else other than DJI equipment?
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
No it’s just cost saving.
@richardb8492
4 ай бұрын
@@MadRC another serious question for you? Is there any concern about harmful rf signal exposure that close to your head. I would see more of a concern for FCC users due to their higher power output. It was discussed many years ago on rc groups but as pointed out then your radio transmitter was at your torso and your video transmitter was on the drone but now that everything on all bands are on your head surely there has to be a little concern.
@jbengineering2681
4 ай бұрын
I sent my ne avata 2 back to dji last week it will ill have it back tomorrow hopefully they fixed the 5.8 ghz it was glitchy right in front of me.
@malpermit
4 ай бұрын
I like the jersey 👍
@balbeora
24 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for your vidéo, pls do you know where i can buy only gimbals/ joystick ? I broke one of them
@devaprasanna402
4 ай бұрын
DJI Gamepad at its finest 🎮🕹️
@lynsmith1096
4 ай бұрын
Good 1 Ian
@judeabrigo278
3 ай бұрын
waiting for the battery tear down 🎉
@vadimus2007
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing it! Based on your last livestream I decided to return Avata 2 before it's broken in pieces :)
@Marshmillo
20 күн бұрын
Hey Mads, currently have an issue with the DJI FPV Controller v3. When I bring the throttle down (left stick). 0 being all the way down & 100 being all the way up, at around 25-30 it gives 100% input to left YAW when the stick is centered. Have you heard of an issue like this before? What could be causing? I've only been flying manual with it as it should be used. Maybe been flying too aggressively? Appreciate your insight! Thanks.
@MadRC
19 күн бұрын
No that's new to me. Tbh it's likely a bad pot.
@Marshmillo
19 күн бұрын
@@MadRC Funny thing is.... it's happened to me twice so far. This is my replacement controller. If I connected it to the PC via USB-C for too long, could it fry anything in the controller maybe? Also the first controller that had a similar issue was with the Roll / Pitch stick (Right stick) instead of left.
@Marshmillo
19 күн бұрын
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@Robocopter_fpv
4 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for the market to get flooded with barely used avata 2s 😂.
@Gaby3DS
4 ай бұрын
Why would that happen? Avata 2 is excellent! Comunication betwen googles - Controller - Drone has been improved too, why people may want to sell their Avatas 2??
@cipri198zero
4 ай бұрын
It won’t happen. Usually people who bought it are more than happy with it. I read loads of reviews, forums and overall with all goods and some bads, people are pleased. I see people selling the first Avata so they can buy the Avata 2. Bad choice imo considering the first Avata is far easier to fix . I hate the new frame, it feels cheaper and fragile, I don’t know why DJI is doing this to us.
@Robocopter_fpv
4 ай бұрын
@@Gaby3DS You will either love fpv and see that you are very limited by this drone and buy a actual fpv drone or you will find that its frustrating and throw it in a closet. Both paths lead to selling it lol.
@Gaby3DS
4 ай бұрын
@@Robocopter_fpv I love FPV, i assembled3 and 5 inches Analog FPVs. Avata 2 have better range, more fly time, in flight adjustable camera angle, perfect return to home function (normal fpvs are just crap), does not need a GoPro attached, real time video transmision to phone via WiFi (excellent for production works), works perfect out of the box. In exchange of what? Some agresive acro? I just dont do agresive/extreme acro. I think ill love it!
@Robocopter_fpv
4 ай бұрын
@@Gaby3DS 1. You can easily put a servo on an fpv drone and even a 3 axis gimbal with a bit more effort. 2. As soon as O4 air unit comes out you will get better range with aftetmarket antennas. 3. Ive literally never needed the return to home function because I know how to keep signal but inav and betaflight have very good return to home functionality now. 4. I want to carry a gopro its much better then the O4 unit with true 24fps a proper log profile and 5.7k 8:7 ratio. 5. You can setup an hdmi out to get video feed to a monitor and then brodcast that anywhere u need. 6. My 7inch with a lion pack can fly up to 35 mins and even at the very end of the pack it still flys better then the avata. 7. If you take a hard crash you can easily repair your drone a big no on the avata. 8. Agressive acro = putting the drone where u need it for the shot. Good luck doing anything that takes any kind of punch and aggressive flying which is literally the entire point of fpv cinematography. 9. Your not limited to whatever dji decides to give you. The whole world of fpv frames/ motors/ cameras etc. 10. Good luck doing anything different from the other thousands of cookie cutter avata pilots do
@ItsMeKevinFPV
4 ай бұрын
No beer?
@BoondockStryker
4 ай бұрын
Curious 🧐 if you could teardown the DJI battery. Everyone thinks there so special. I wonder if they’re just molicells?
@neuromancer692
4 ай бұрын
Molicell doesn't produce lipos.
@BoondockStryker
4 ай бұрын
@@neuromancer692 I’m pretty sure they are lithium ion batteries. There’s no way lipo’s can last that long. Besides u can’t really fly them aggressively so theirs no reason to use lipo’s.
@neuromancer692
4 ай бұрын
@@BoondockStryker The only time Dji used Liion in drones was for the Mini 1. They switched to Lipo for the successor. You can watch disassembly videos if you want to. There is no reason for Dji to lie about that, besides it would be illegal.
Can someone tell me what is the reason behind clips in the shells of electronics? Wouldn't just screws hold up well?
@RockFPV
4 ай бұрын
Interessting Stuff, that explains why the Controller is so unbalanced
@ManAndTechOfficial
4 ай бұрын
Radiomaster bandit cnc metal teardown?
@painy6588
4 ай бұрын
wonder if you got transfer internals to a new shell and install full sized gimbals..
@alizuma233
4 ай бұрын
That looks like it cost them $10-$20 total to make. Why is it priced at $200?
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
Yep they have HUGH margin in this.
@georgitushev
4 ай бұрын
Surprise surprise
@navibarra
4 ай бұрын
Hello, do all the previous controls also not communicate with the drone? only googles? min. 6:12
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
No this is new to the avata 2
@navibarra
4 ай бұрын
@@MadRC ohhh tanks ...and nice chanel...
@wcw3836
4 ай бұрын
What do you think of in terms of latency regarding this system. If the remote controller 3 has to go through the goggle in order to control the drone. Does that mean more latency compared to to remote controller 2?
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
I don’t expect it to have anything that will affect users. The live feed is already 26ms so even if it added 1-2 it’s not going to be a major issues imo.
@wcw3836
4 ай бұрын
@@MadRC great, thanks for your reply!
@oscr_zen
4 ай бұрын
wait, this controller connects to goggles and not the drone? cant you fly the drone if the goggles arent connected?
@JoshuaLerner92
4 ай бұрын
Nope you can’t fly without goggles. I just tried and quad just hovers until it reconnects. Even if u have return to home set up it will just hover there. This is a bad but if your goggles die while flying especially if your a mile out or so
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
No you cant on Avata 2
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
Correct
@3Dfactory57
4 ай бұрын
Will it work with o3 or googles v2 ?
@BergeronFPV
4 ай бұрын
No lol
@technicalsupport6983
4 ай бұрын
What happens in this world ..... Empty remort have somany features .
@lonelyroamer
4 ай бұрын
So, if you lose video signal, you lose RX signal at all. Great.
@r3d4c7
4 ай бұрын
I considered glueing some coins inside just to add some weight. It does not feel like a $200 remote, and now we see why (it's not)
@MadRC
4 ай бұрын
Yea DJI is making some margin on this.
@Quad_Father
4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately you’re gonna have to suck it up if you want to fly for real and not use the motion controller.
@jackevans2386
4 ай бұрын
13:56 "DGI" ? and we all thought they were called 'DJI'
@brandon9689
4 ай бұрын
Many people don't understand this connects between the controller and Goggles to eliminate the folding antenna on top. I picked this up and I am ordering an Avata 2 soon. I'm a bit concerned that one the hardware gets unlocked this radio may not work with PNP BNF's the way that the FPV2 can. If they do ever work, users will need to have both the goggles 3 and FPV 3 for bind and fly PNP drones.What do you think?
@BergeronFPV
4 ай бұрын
Many of us understand this controller has no antenna on top. Infact it’s one of the main features, and the replacement as Ian highlighted in the video is nothing more than cheap rubbish. I think DJI is doing this hobby and community harm. No clue why but a large portion of people love DJI products. The second you throw that shit away and build your own quad you will literally view DJI products as scams. And you’re going to feel terrible seeing people all happy to spend $2100 on the avata 2 only to realize that it literally is incapable of flying full acro. It’s like I see heaps of retired older people try and pick up the hobby then get sucked into this DJI trap. Almost like watching someone get scammed but they are loving it.
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