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@briantracy1324
Жыл бұрын
My parents had a "console" system from the late 1950's that I updated decades ago (only saved the cabinet) ... the speakers behind the non-removable grills were Philco (Ford) 6x9's with wizzer cones...
@tbrown6559
Жыл бұрын
What was the name of the formula for enclosures - where can I find it?
@blacksupra001
Жыл бұрын
would an external crossover have helped if they were wired up to the crossover directly ? like in a component set up not a coaxial ?! i read alot of reviews saying the coaxials are a bit disappointing, but component speakers tend to get more favorable reviews on sound quality. Probably going to get someone to make me a small stereo using marine grade car components, shopping around for now just sorting though stuff,. loved the video, have a great day !
@jonpatrick66
26 күн бұрын
TBrown I think he said,"Theile parameters ", was the name of that enclosure chart.
@Dana-px9ro
Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I made a pair of shoe boxes using 6x9 car speakers and a cheap Lafayette amplifier. at the time I thought it sounded great! 😆
@johnwatrous3058
Жыл бұрын
We have low expectations as teens!
@gearmeister
Жыл бұрын
Well, as a beginner mechanic back in the 80's, my boss took that 6x9 Jensen & cut the proper hole into an AC-Delco box, mounted the speaker with only sealant & it sounded fantastic compared to the cheap speaker in the small am FM radio! Filled the shop with nice warm sound!
@jesseballard4753
Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing 😂
@jeremycummings8445
Жыл бұрын
Ofc you thought It sounded great because you put it together yourself😭 you was proud that it worked
@MarcelloTheBandit
Жыл бұрын
I did something similar using a size 12 walmart shoe box and some old IBM speakers and a Dell amp. There was ABSOLUTELY nothing under 150Hz, but it was still pretty good for 5 watts. It basically sounded like some cheap early 80's bookshelf speakers. 😂
@alexz1232
Жыл бұрын
In a car, the door acts as a large baffle. If you want to put car audio drivers in a small enclosure, you need baffle step compensation in the crossover. That is why you are getting all mid and high frequencies with no bass. Car audio speakers actually work pretty well when used as in-wall speakers, with a little EQ from an AV receiver.
@ericperry72
Жыл бұрын
Was gonna say this. Almost all car speakers have a qts over .50.
@MrViper7121
Жыл бұрын
Would polyfil do the trick?
@coolmonkey5269
8 ай бұрын
will it sound good in open air
@coolmonkey5269
8 ай бұрын
the presenter shud hv used a better component speaker with seprte mid range and tweeter. it wud sound better
@DismasM
Жыл бұрын
Takes me back. My first home 'stereo' was the already classic Craig snorkel car 8-track player and two Jensen Traxial car speakers on a bookshelf hooked up to a power converter. I was 14, it was 1975
@mikeables
Жыл бұрын
No need to say how old you were or what year it was. ha ha Mine was Pioneer triaxles connected to a Kenwood KR2600 receiver. In 1977
@DismasM
Жыл бұрын
@@mikeables mine was an inauspicious start to this goofy hobby
@cw824
Жыл бұрын
You should have just run the hookup wire through the port to the speaker. No X-over removal needed.
@jefflock7635
Жыл бұрын
I’ve often wondered how the Hertz Mille Legend MLK 1650.3’s that are in my Truck would compare to any of my home audio speakers. The Hertz Mille Legends are components and sound amazing in my truck. Much higher quality (and cost) than the Rockford’s. Thanks for the video, it was a fun experiment.
@nabman_
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this 'experiment'. Reminds me of my first system I rigged when I was a teen. Two 6x9 2-way Alpine car speakers and a Blaupunkt car radio cassette player powered by a 12V 5A power adapter. All mounted in a plywood enclosure I made (like giant boombox). Hardest part was to make oval cutouts with the tools I had. Sounded bad but not awful. It was fun. Listened to it for few months then the cassette player died. Used the speakers to 'upgrade' my father's Oldsmobile. 😀
@Spaniard47
Жыл бұрын
Randy, you could make a LOT of content doing stuff like this. I've generally considered car audio drivers to be overpriced due to markup, but then again I've done some installs in vehicles where the final result blew me away for the price. I'm currently in the middle of the fence between using the easy, accepted way of doing car audio (Crutchfield / premade packs), and doing it all custom, buying raw parts from parts express (and sometimes 3d printing vehicle specific adapters and pods) and making something super unique, but of course that comes with a much bigger possibility of catastrophic failure.
@spandel100
Жыл бұрын
What about putting home bookshelves into a car.That might sound great.
@Spaniard47
Жыл бұрын
@@spandel100 I'm sure it would sound awesome. The issue would be fitment lol, unless you just mean the drivers.
@spandel100
Жыл бұрын
@@Spaniard47 Place them lying on their sides behind the rear seats,on top of the backboard(if you have one).👍
@rosswarren436
Жыл бұрын
I always wondered how the market is for 3rd party head units to replace factory ones these days. Back in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s, replacing the "radio" wasn't hard, but today everything seems so integrated with lots of complicated wire harnesses some of which might control other functions, I wonder if many people mess with them other than just maybe upgrading the speakers. Of course Crutchfield is still in business, so maybe I'm underestimating that market today.
@Spaniard47
Жыл бұрын
@@rosswarren436 that's a great point, and a big reason I'm worried for the future of car audio. Before 2015 or so, most cars had standalone head units that could be removed and replaced with a couple hours and less than ~$50 worth of brackets and harnesses. Now, the electronics systems are so interconnected that there often isn't really a head unit to remove; the entire car is one huge conglomeration of systems. Pair that with the baffling trend of adding as many drivers as possible to the car (since more = better to the average consumer), and you have many vehicles that are basically non-upgradable. That is unless you go the route of doing it fully custom: buying unique raw parts, fabricating your own speaker locations, running all of your own cables, everything. It's an interesting conundrum.
@ditto_75
Жыл бұрын
Speakers designed for automobiles can work well. To be fair the speaker you used was a terrible choice. Also keep in mind that most automotive speakers are designed to be listened to off axes. I can just imagine the ear piercing vocals on those Fosgates. I bet it was really bad. It's also pretty well known that a 3 way coaxial speaker is almost always a sales gimmick. There is absolutely no need for more than a two way coaxial. Thanks for the video. Stuff like this is fun if not informational.
@deejay_hazexxtatic
Жыл бұрын
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DON'T SHOWCASE THE AUDIO TEST🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂ LOOSES THE ESSENCE
@robmyers4512
Жыл бұрын
I did this once with JL split speakers worked ok on the internal crossover worked really well with the JL crossover that came with the car speakers... I wouldn't do it with a combination car speaker best to build a custom cabinet
@timharbert7145
Жыл бұрын
Back in my highschool days, connected a pair of Jensen car triaxs to the outputs of an open back Fender Music master bass tube amp. The amps EQ was just one tone knob but it didn't sound too bad. Sounded better than most stereo amps in direct mode today.
@rodirish7787
Жыл бұрын
my father in the 70s put the 1st edition of those jenson triaxs in a set of speaker cabinets the size of the L300s for shits and giggles and man did they sound good at the time he had the L100s in the bedroom and the 3 panel magnipans in the living room so lots of high end to compare it to at the time
@jeffpowell3163
Жыл бұрын
Ive done this a couple of times over the years to have something for my shop. Similar results LOL !
@toddt5562
Жыл бұрын
Back in the early '80s I actually took home audio speaker components and installed them in my '77 Camaro Z28 door panels. Actually had to use a cutting torch to make holes in the door since there were no factory speakers there 😂... Don't remember exactly what I had to power them, but I think it was one of those awful Jet Sound under dash EQ/power amps 😂. Sounded pretty good for 1982 listening to Iron Maiden lol.
@rusowen1
Жыл бұрын
This is an a abso-fracking-lutely superb comment.
@jeffneedstogivejakeaturnon1083
Жыл бұрын
Maiden makes everything better.
@Protometal66
Жыл бұрын
Hooked up an Allegro home speaker in my Dodge Colt back in 1989. Took up pretty much the majority of the back seat. Sounded great to my 21 year old ears. . I also listened to a lot of hard rock and metal at the time and that system rocked. Lol
@cthulhista4052
Жыл бұрын
I live in Brazil, home audio gear is not a great market over here, in terms of variety. The officialy aviable options tends to be pretty expensive. Car audio, in the other hand, is a huge market and by far the most affordable option for who wants a decent music experience. Bookshelf speakers and audio systems made that way are pretty popular among the general public.
@Kevin_Carlson
Жыл бұрын
It's the same way here in Ecuador.
@guilhermev3545
Жыл бұрын
In fact, and unfortunatelly, there is almost zero interest in bookshelf cabinets at all, even less in the diy, made with car speakers here. Nobody really does it. Most of the brazilians doesn't even know what a bookshelf speaker cabinet is. What we have is lousy cabinets made with car speakers, yes, but for "entertaining" purposes only (usually barbecues, in wich they play extremely crappy music), not for hi-fi/hi-res or home theater applications. But I see your point. I myself made some cabinets with car audio speakers and you can get great results with it.
@Fergutor
Жыл бұрын
@@guilhermev3545 I thought Edifier, Microlab and other similar brands got to Brazil. I mean if there's not interest (here in Argentina there's barely..or rather was an interest) at least there is the option for the few ones who has that interest.
@joshnc101
Жыл бұрын
I used to dabble with car audio back starting in mid 2000's when i got my first car. It took me a while to learn, but aftermarket speakers for doors and decklid panels are just not made for outputting any kind of bass, and that's mostly by design because they want you to buy a subwoofer too. A lot of factory speakers just always have a bit more oomph in the low end because OEM's design them to work in an infinite baffle setup.
@peteyification
Жыл бұрын
Did you read my mind? I was just asking myself this question yesterday... A coaxial car speaker will basically turn any speaker into a KEF, right?😄
@writenamehere0000
Жыл бұрын
There is 7 billion people on the planet. Probability of thinking about that is not even that small.-
@abdullahdanze2061
Жыл бұрын
Depends on how you tune it.
@stephennarayan
Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the build quality of a KEF driver?
@abdullahdanze2061
Жыл бұрын
@@stephennarayan Means nothing. Car stereo drivers are better quality.
@peteyification
Жыл бұрын
@@stephennarayan that's the joke
@petrolfever
Жыл бұрын
Car speakers are designed for an infinite baffle (e.g. car door) and generally have a high Qts as such. I did a similar experiment with some JL coaxials a few years ago and found that in a box they sounded like poo, but then I made an open box with a backing (to mimic a car door) and they sounded much better. Audiophile, no, but at least they had a much better (any) bass response.
@davidhoward4685
Жыл бұрын
I used pioneer components in custom enclosures for my entire surround sound system and it sounded great.
@eaches
Жыл бұрын
Whaaaaat? No Kraco power booster? All the rage in our ghetto DIY car stereo setups in the '80s.
@bossunimportantstuff
Жыл бұрын
The best sounding Hi-Fi setup I have heard uses three-way 6x9 car speakers with no baffles (as in just the speaker) along with a subwoofer. Place the speakers at ear height 2 feet from the wall and EQ the amp or source to linearize the frequency response. The sound stage and voicing from this no baffle set up when dialed in correctly is amazing. The reflected sounds from the back of the speaker cones arrives several milliseconds later at the listening position due to phase and distance which makes the sound lush and dimensional. Also, there is an Atmos like effect going on due to the rear of the speaker cone radiating sound in all directions, Walsh style. Again, I say that the best sounding Hi-Fi setup I have heard uses three-way 6x9 car speakers with no baffles along with a subwoofer. Probably the closest I have heard that compares are a pair of Devialet Phantoms. Most amps probably do not have enough EQ to pull this off as up to 30 dB of adjustment is needed to line up everything. Search for "Nvarcher Bluetooth 5.0 DSP Audio Amplifier" on ali exp. This 20$ DSP module has enough adjustment copiabilities. I told you all you need to know so if you don't act, then you will be doomed to an eternal sub optimal listening experience.
@RacerXGTO
3 ай бұрын
I was able to do it with four 6x9's and two cabinets. Angled baffle to eliminate reflected noise, pure sound only. Squeezed every Hz of bass out of the 6x9's using a transmission line box. These things would rival a Polk system. The speakers are in my videos.
@fatkido1369
Жыл бұрын
You should try the enclosure with a sundown audio 6.5 subwoofer and the tweeter would be interesting to see
@blakebrockhaus347
Жыл бұрын
It makes sense that you got the result you did. Basically all aftermarket car speakers are designed with the assumption that you'll be running a sub. So they cut out the bass to increase sensitivity to overcome road noise.
@kaiwaterfield8073
Жыл бұрын
Don't wear your watch while you are around speaker magnets mate, it will bugger it up. Love the channel, John from England, like you a breitling man.
@peterlarkin762
Жыл бұрын
Do magnetic fields really damage mechanical timepieces?
@kaiwaterfield8073
Жыл бұрын
@@peterlarkin762 Yes magnets will definitely damage your watch, particularly mechanical pieces as you say. Some watches are shielded usually by a soft iron ring inside the case, but not many. If you do magnetise your watch it will start loosing or gaining large amounts of time or even stop. It can be repaired but it means a full strip down and service, they pass the part's through a coil to un magnatise them. Problem is its going to cost hundreds, my cronomat is £700 od for a full service, so it's better to be safe. Quartz watches are much less at risk, some will tell you they're OK but there are plenty of steel parts in a quartz movement and the likely outcome is a slight loss of accuracy. Hope this helps you out. All the best, John
@Sethw1984
Жыл бұрын
Watches can be magnetized fairly easily, but they can also be demagnetized fairly easily with a ten dollar tool from Amazon. I’ve never heard of them needing to be stripped down over magnetism.
@phonebackup8132
Жыл бұрын
It's most likely Quarts, not affected by the magnet.
@kaiwaterfield8073
Жыл бұрын
@@Sethw1984 Yes you can just pass the complete watch through a coil, you can easily make the coil yourself but it won't do such a good job as stripping it down, and it is unlikely to restore it to full accuracy. If you are dealing with a cheap watch fair enough give it a go but a decent time piece, I suppose it depends on how much you care about it and how easily you can replace it. My Breitlings always go back to Breitling for any work, shure it's expensive but they come back like new. My cronomat runs to a couple of seconds a week and my sea wolf to around five seconds a week. They took a life time of saving to get, I'm just a ordinary working class guy, I wouldn't dare put a ten quid amazon tool in the same room as them. Any of my other stuff, Tag, Oris, Roamer etc goes to Goldsmiths excellent workshops. That's just me, at the end of the day your watches, your money, your decision.
@jimgardner5129
Жыл бұрын
"Does that matter? I don't know." Man, you're not filling me with much confidence. :)
@ellasfella1205
Жыл бұрын
to get the results your looking for remove the tweeter and the polly fill
@Sylvan_dB
Жыл бұрын
You just confirmed my teenage experience. Back when I was 12 years old I salvaged a flood damaged pioneer receiver. Cleaned out the mud. Cleaning the controls and tuning cap was fun. Replaced internal fuses and it worked. So I replaced the front glass (broken when it fell during the flood) and used it in my bedroom until I left home. My first speakers were cheap car speakers from a swap meet then slightly better car speakers and finally a pair of mid-tier large Radio Shack bookshelf speakers on A and B was a pair of small Radio Shack realistic minimus 7's (at the time I couldn't decide which were better...).
@markrosado8
Жыл бұрын
Cool story! Back in the mid 80s when I was 15, I rescued a 70s pioneer receiver from a dumpster. Just needed 2 internal fuses. I made my own RadioShack speakers that probably didn't sound very good but I was just so happy with myself.
@notchbak
Жыл бұрын
Dayton actually makes a really nice assortment of speakers. Prices for a lot of budgets and applications. I've always been really pleased with them.
@christopherlewis1847
Жыл бұрын
Bought a set of their 6-1/2" 2 way outdoor speakers for a friend. They sound great
@csj9619
Жыл бұрын
I've done the exact opposite thing. I've put home hifi drivers in my car. After getting tired of overpriced car speakers with overinflated specs, now only buy home or prosound drivers. The front doors of my car house 7" Dayton Reference midbass, 1" Reference aluminum dome tweeters and a bunch of killmat (foil-backed, constrained-layer butyl) powered by a SKAR Audio RP75.4 class A/B amp. It will play down to below 50hz with authority, but have the midbass actively bandpass filtered to play 80hz-4kHz and tweeters high-passed at 4kHz. How does it sound? WAYYY better than $200 worth of car audio marketed drivers would (and better than a two hundred dollar car audio component set). *also have a RP800.1d powering 2 SKAR Audio SDR-10 10" subwoofers in a 3 Ft3 enclosure to handle below 80 Hz
@maxvaly7747
Жыл бұрын
You can pass the wire directly thru the reflex tube, twisting the spades will make them easier to remove. Wire that thin will impact the bass quality. Did you tried to obstruct reflex tube?
@mikecampbell5856
Жыл бұрын
Back in the early 80s I had big home speakers in the back of a couple of hatchbacks. They sounded great.
@adaboy4z
Жыл бұрын
My friends big brother hooked up two house speakers in his station wagon in the late 80s. It was hilarious but he had some bass.
@jefflock7635
Жыл бұрын
In the mid-80’s I had a couple of mid 70’s era wooden heavy duty 12” 3-way home audio speakers that I was laying in the hatch of a 1980 Chevette that I could pull out of the hatch back and set on the ground so we could listen to music at the park while playing hackey sack, throwing frisbees, or while partying by the river, lol. They sounded great from what I remember.
@NosEL34
Жыл бұрын
Fun stuff...reminds me of when I was in high school. I mix matched speakers and enclosures all the time. I had a buddy that took out the back seats in his old car and set up 2 12inch home stereo speaker enclosures lol. We were jobless and just wanted stereo. Late 80's were a fun time.
@mikeschlup5279
Жыл бұрын
I have a pair of MB QUART's from the late 90's...my 55 watt NAD 3155 give them a run and sound good...need my 8 inch subwoofer in the equation next...
@hardtymz2517
Жыл бұрын
Rockford made decent amps in the 90s. Junk everything else and since. Their speakers were terrible! Just go into any Circuit City and press the button next to them. How’s a dollar speaker gonna be charged like $80?! Lol wut?? This project may have worked if you got something decent. Hell, even Pioneer is light years better than any fosgate speaker. This video was painful! Why was everything happening in real time and over explanation that countered the whole point of any explanation or logical thinking, or just a logical thought in general?? This video should’ve have been as long as me typing this out: 2 minutes MAX! Terrible! I’m sorry but it was.
@zefrog7482
Жыл бұрын
Car speakers are a definite no for home audio, unless... certain subwoofers, when you design a box going by TS parameters and not recommended for a car application, now that can work. I run 2 JL audio 12 inch subwoofers in 95 litre sealed boxes, very impressive at £100 each.
@DaBeppo
Жыл бұрын
Use it for a open baffle!
@theankh6532
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've been curious about a build like this with Emotiva's ceiling speakers. I don't know why I never thought of car speakers. Thanks for the build!
@plektosgaming
Жыл бұрын
I had some 6.5 inch 2 way Kenwoods (XR-1701) that sound amazing in my car. Most people would probably shy away at $150 for a pair to put in a box (twice what his costs), but the results would probably be fantastic. Mind you, the speakers in a car typically use the inside of the dash or door compartments as a "box", so you need to err on the side of larger is better. Most car doors are on the order of several cubic feet inside. Those numbers you plug into a program for speaker designs are the minimum recommended box size as well. This is why a 5 or 6 inch speaker in a tower or large box generally sounds a little better. All of that said, don't believe the specs. They all fall off a cliff at about 100hz and a sub is a massive help. He noticed this as well - there was no bass. They are designed such that the rear speakers or sub handles all of the low frequencies.
@cheeky50862
Жыл бұрын
These speakers would most likely be used with a subwoofer so are probably more midbass than bass. The component version of these could work well as a midbass in a 3 way system?
@madlad_don2387
Жыл бұрын
so im kinda a cheap person and wanted some kind of home audio for my setup and ended up having 2 5.25 4 way car speakers and 2 4x6 car speakers along with an old Sony "theater" system subwoofer. i already know that its not gonna sound like an actual system that has been tuned properly but for just how little it cost me the sound is great and full. i cant wait to one day have a proper set up tho but for now I'm broke but jammin.
@SpeakerKevin
Жыл бұрын
The original Dayton speaker has a much heavier cone which increases bass response at the expense of efficiency. The large magnet helps bring it back some, but will be no where near the efficiency of a car speaker. Car speakers are designed on totally different principles. That's why you can't just throw one in an enclosure. Generally car speakers have a lighter cone, a higher Q(weaker magnet), and a stiffer suspension to mimic being mounted in an enclosure. Considering these parameters, a larger, ported enclosure would be optimal.
@EazyRed
Жыл бұрын
im doin something similar. i bought a lil 5 1/4in subwoofer and will be putting two into my bookshelf lmao
@lcwin1
Жыл бұрын
You should try testing with a reasonable good car speaker. Check out the Alpine DDL range . Get a used one and see .I tested and use them and its very good despite the so so review it gets.
@dlfrestoration
Жыл бұрын
Try this with a focal k2 power set of splits they so far are the best sounding car speakers I have uses
@billmankin6204
Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that in addition to those Rockfords being cheap, they are counting on enhanced bass from the resonance of the door panel and cavity. And yes, the road noise. On the other hand, I am old school. The "music" coming from your car should be properly generated by the engine and the exhaust note. Damn, I miss the whine of the rotary in my old RX-7.
@eaches
Жыл бұрын
Started out looking like a madman and it only got better from there.
@nchristensen3309
Жыл бұрын
why bother with removing the crossover when doing an experiment and you have extra leads that fit the unit.
@Ericdagreat
Жыл бұрын
Awesome show! No more watches?
@FrankySilverFace
Жыл бұрын
If you left the Dayton speaker intact and allowed the original woofer to be a passive radiator then made a separate opening for the car speaker you'd have success. Did this years ago with an old pair of home speakers. Made a crude 6x9 opening on top of the home speakers for some Jensen car speakers. Worked excellent !! Whiskey may have had something to do with my assessment of excellent tho.
@plektosgaming
Жыл бұрын
This is a trick that almost all coaxial towers use. Larger box, passive radiator, great results.
@mbstxb7579
Жыл бұрын
I Love messing with speakers and enclosures, swapping things around just to see what works. Cool vid. BTW I got my Scss-5's in today open box from Amazon paid $68, they were flawless not a scratch on them. Paired them with Ayima a08.
@LeonardChurch33
Жыл бұрын
So take this with heaps of salt but (if I remember my physics correctly) the magnet being weak externally might actually be a good thing. The use of ferrites or other magnet design trickery should keep the magnetic flux inside the magnet and focused on the voice coil rather than leaking out into the space around it. Granted, the magnet may just be generally weak but without tearing the speaker apart and testing the internal field strength it's hard to tell.
@tomkershaw4384
Жыл бұрын
I once had an old Sony Trinitron TV that finally died and rather than try to carry this monster to the dumpster I decided to dismantle and take it out in pieces. It had two 2.75" full range drivers and the magnets were REALLY heavy so I put them in an old pair of cheap Kenwood enclosures that had blown speakers and they sounded pretty good!
@namesurname4666
Жыл бұрын
i removed the speakers from a chinese 32 inch tv since they sound terrible anyway, they were extremely small and even advertised as "harman kardon" in some firmware but i would also say that the tv had a wrong speaker size setting in the service menu that made it sound worse than what it already is
@markrosado8
Жыл бұрын
Back in the 90s, I had Boston Acoustics 5.2 Pro auto speakers in my 89 Honda CRX. I sold the car later and removed the speakers because they were pretty darn expensive for the time. Probably $250? Out of curiosity I put them in a .5ft3 sealed box with an Adcom GFA-555 driving them. They sounded pretty darn good. But they were separates with outboard crossovers and very good parts.
@catch22frubert
Жыл бұрын
You can still get component sets with a midbass driver, and a tweeter, with a separate passive crossover for decently cheap. Put those in a bookshelf size sealed enclosure and it should sound great. I've seen people use car audio stuff inside with great results, and people that used home theater stuff in car audio with great results. It all depends on your knowledge of the science behind audio performance. If you have a good grasp on the science, and some engineering and building skills, anything is possible.
@ccmaster86
Жыл бұрын
I used a pair of Pioneer 4x6" 3-Ways for a center channel for a looong time mounted just above the TV. Imaging was great for voices which I pay the most attention to. Edit: They were in a slightly large mdf poly filled box, no porting.
@madhukark8133
Жыл бұрын
Hey I did too
@zardoz2627
Жыл бұрын
Above the TV though? Seems like it would be off axis somehow
@Spaniard47
Жыл бұрын
@@zardoz2627 if your tv is at the proper height it's not much (if at all) different than having it below.
@donlew8222
Жыл бұрын
Those factory replacements are bottom end speakers at around $30 each and distort easily. Of course the sound is shallow and weak, no matter the application. However, the last Fosgates I purchased were about $350 and included actual crossovers. They sounded VASTLY different. Very nice. But these better built car speakers are still in need of a subwoofer. No surprise with the outcome here. I once did the same thing with Pioneers best four-ways in some sealed enclosures. Again, with a sub, I thought they sounded really good and hung 4 of these up in the corners of my living room. Call me crazy and lazy... I really did enjoy them! 👋
@cartersgarage392
Жыл бұрын
Cool experiment, being a car audio guy, RF "Prime" speakers are entry level to begin with. There are some amazing SQ separates that would be amazing. But, yea, those speakers don't sound "good" in cars either.
@jimthvac100
Жыл бұрын
Next time you do an experiment like this use a calibrated microphone and the REW program so we can see the frequency response graph. Also did you disconnect the original tweeter that was in that box? If not you should have.
@peterbaugh51
Жыл бұрын
I get better bass from my car speakers when I use Sith Audio Bass Enhancer Wipes. They clean, shine and protect all my speakers! Get some today! Great video CAM :-)
@Simon_Hawkshaw
Жыл бұрын
What fun and something many of us have thought about doing, but then probably not many of us are 'normal', and by 'us', I mean me!😂. I have taken enclosed car speakers and used them in home settings, but found them rather thin, but I'm talking way back in the '70s in Africa. 😂
@transamericanlife
Жыл бұрын
I have to admit I've been wondering about a comparison between focal's home speakers and focal's car speakers
@franciscoortiz6980
Жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS... takes me back to college days. To be honest... GOOD car speakers are more expensive than many home speakers add cost of cabinet, they no longer make financial sense. But yes... in my young days i had more time than money built a decent pair using old 6x9s and left over particle board.
@UberGrokAudio
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this. While not a car speaker I have thought about using the Emotiva Vaulta In-Ceiling to make a bookshelf speaker. Let's see that video.
@jeffjefferson7384
Жыл бұрын
''Who wants to have some FUN today?'' *Wields chainsaw covered in guts*
@necavenue
Жыл бұрын
I think you should try component drivers with separate crossovers instead of a cheap coaxial with inline filter. You need a "long throw" woofer to get decent bass out of small drivers made for automotive applications. Also those small coaxial speakers are designed to have a shallow mounting depth for fitment into doors. They don't have the luxury of using big magnets with a long throw design.
@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD
Жыл бұрын
Thats Rockford's sound. They want you to have subs, From day one I never liked Rockfords sound, Back in the day going to sound offs and the Rockford F van was there it just turned me off, All mid and there subs where all air no real sound. The MTX thunderbird and the Phoenix gold 240z was super sounding after you got the reps to back off the over the top sub gains
@Akosa117
Ай бұрын
Lmao why not play it for us
@carloscolon5434
Жыл бұрын
Nice video and great change of pace with a fun twist. Great to see results after the recent survey. Keep being you and having fun with the channel and having us along for the ride.
@cheapaudioman
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Rick_Dunaway
2 ай бұрын
Those RF speakers are pretty harsh even in a car. Can you try a different set? I think the old Boston Acoustics Pro separates were pretty good. Not sure about today. Maybe a premium model/set of components with stand alone crossovers from Focal, MB Quart, JL Audio, ect. I’d honestly like to know how a good set would preform in a set of boxes just as you did. Thanks
@CotyRiddle
Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly some car speakers are actually built really well even some of the cheaper speakers. They have to withstand temperature extremes and vibrations and humidity. Some are built extremely well. I have some old fosgate 6.5 inch speakers from the mid 90's and I have had them in sealed enclosures before and they actually produce clear mids and plenty of low end.
@jorgem50
Жыл бұрын
I have 4 car subs and a pair of bookshelf speakers (bose 301 II) with new crossovers, car midrange and tweeters that I'm using as my rear speakers. My front speakers are old bose 501 IV cabinets with car subs, car midrange and goldwood tweetes plus new crossovers. Guarantee if you sat in my living room and watched a movie or listened to music you would not even know I have car gear. Trust me, it sounds excellent
@slimjim1104
Жыл бұрын
When I was into car audio I ran components in enclosures. Custom kick panels up front. Makes a world of difference.
@PortugaRD
Жыл бұрын
let papa teach you . Wen you want to use a car speaker in your house, you have to get a car amplifier and a Mixing table. whit that said. the mixing table will give the option to controll individually the speakers. 1 channel for bass 1 channel for vocals. + adicional gain , bass mid, and high freq. + the car amplifer will give you the option to select the freq that you want your vocals to play . same for the subwoofer. how do i power a car amplifer at home ?? Buy a computer powersupply with 600W Or more. Cut all the connecters . Grab all yellows +12v grab all blacks -12 grab the only greenwire and brigde it with the +12 wen you turn on the power suply the amplifer will be On . Capiche? and next time dont wast our time with a 16min video where you dont even show us the speaker working. I hope this helps you reach the sound quality that you where expecting.
@shawnstoudt7130
Жыл бұрын
My Bluetooth speaker is a ilive ISB200B It's not the most powerful But it sounds good to me
@robertkirk5009
Жыл бұрын
I have done something similar to this, I used pyramid 8 inch woofers with 50 ounce magnets to replace the woofers in Bose 301s.I thought I made a big mistake as they sounded terrible, but the more I play them the better they get. Now they sound much better than the original Bose.
@hardtymz2517
Жыл бұрын
That’s because Dollar General store speakers are an Upgrade to Bose.
@vulcangunner58
Жыл бұрын
I did the same with GW poly woofers....they too, at first sounded weak. After a decent break-in, they sound powerful and clean! BTW how about the pathetic little square magnets on the Bose woofers?...maybe 8 oz. at best!
@Edward135i
Жыл бұрын
Randy, your a monster!
@noahforrester4537
29 күн бұрын
Probably doesn't sound good due to the fact that most car speakers are more designs for more of an infinite baffle setup usually it uses the door as the infinite baffle if you were to make an infinite baffle for that car speaker it would have probably sounded really good
@KuntalGhosh
Жыл бұрын
I made 4 enclosures with sony 6x9 explod speaker and man o man they have some bass and are super efficient.. the headunit i use is an old sony car stereo and rated for only 35w x4ch max. The real rms is around 10w and it has bass to shake the windows. The headunit i originally had got 50w x4 max or another 20w rms and that one would rattle the windows like crazy. I use it for my pc audio. For 100+100+200 $ this setup has lasted me well over 15yrs. The original headunit died due to waterspill so i replaced it with a unit i got from scrap that is 20+ yr old 😂
@payaso25us
Жыл бұрын
Hi Randy, Thanks for your fun video, I once removed a half inch tweeter from a car speaker and piggy backed it to a stereo system, the ride cymbal was realistic probably the capacitor was set at a midrange level? the thing doesnt make a sound unless a metal instrument is played… someone threw it away as it looked like thrash! ive never heard anything like it again… anyone knows how to make a thing? it makes a sound when you hit that ride cymbal frequency only not evem hi hats!
@Synthematix
10 ай бұрын
Generally car speakers are designed for infinite baffles and dont sound good in enclosures, however, they do sound REALLY good fitted in a drywall
@NeilBlanchard
Жыл бұрын
What model is the Dayton Audio speaker? Is it the MK602X? It is currently on sale for $100/pr. At the very least, it would definitely benefit from some braces/ribs to take resonances down to a lower level.
@duboracle
Жыл бұрын
Try the pioneer TS-C172PRS i had them tuned manually and they had a lot of bass, the sound really exelent. I thinkt they are really stunning good with a digital room EQ with a measuring mic.
@johnviera3884
7 ай бұрын
I have no idea what went wrong with your experiment, but I have built dozens of portable boom box speakers using coaxial car speakers and they sound great and have plenty of bass.
@klbird
Жыл бұрын
If you checked the Qts it probably 1.0 or better not suited for a ported enclosure. It Will only work in a the lossless environment of a car where you also get a 20dB lift due to the compactness of the cabin.
@Kylethemestupfile
Жыл бұрын
The Rockford Fosgate speakers you chose are an almost bottom of the barrel option. Granted, I am sure you were trying to keep this cost effective, but I think there would be a much better comparison with a quality set of components, something like The Alpine Type S
@Schjoenz
Жыл бұрын
I have a pair of it at home. I DIY them and they sounds really clean than building a separate speakers with crossover that is hard to tweak. But why are you not getting bass on that? My fake Pioneer 3-way sounds great considering it's a chinese counterfeit. 🤣 The bass on that fake is awesome as well.
@Picker94
Жыл бұрын
Many years ago i salvaged a pair of SONY speakers from our family car that got wrecked (gladly nobady take any damage) and i put the speakers in to a cheap AIWA plastic enclosured stereo system they shure sound way better than the ones the original had ...
@Feliciano12v
Жыл бұрын
Good idea. I’ve thought of this, but with a JL W6 subwoofer since good home audio subwoofers are expensive.
@LifeSized101
Жыл бұрын
Even in a car-rear fill at best for that level of speaker, I'll be trying pro series Hertz Mille 2 way 200w @ 4 ohm in my tool trolley stack and bedroom
@edricjr7930
Жыл бұрын
Car 3-Way All In 1 = Triaxial Speaker. (Back in the day when Jensons ruled the car speaker roost!) 😁😁👍🏽👍🏽
@RacerXGTO
3 ай бұрын
Okay dude, here's what you do - 5-1/2 car audio speakers are mids and highs only, that's a known quantity. Re-design a bass reflex box that will house two 8-inch woofers, and apply two of your 5-1/2 speakers and two silk dome tweeters. Build another box so you have a L and R channel. Buy and configure your speaker ohms so they come out 8ohms or 4ohms, depending on your amp. You should now have a speaker box that will rival Polk and JBL floor standing towers.
@MidFiMan
Жыл бұрын
I've got a pair of new Kenwood 6X9 three-ways for a pickup I sold and I've thought about it, but never done anything with it.
@movieman247
Жыл бұрын
lol...tried the same thing with some extra speakers i have, sounded terrible and forward. audiophiliac did have a friend that built speakers from and old bmw speakers that sounded good. im pretty sure he most likely upgraded the crossover .
@hadleymanmusic
Жыл бұрын
Open backs the trick
@gaziltapig
Жыл бұрын
This was SO thorough... Try a component car speaker next time. One with an external crossover so its oranges to tangerines instead of apples.
@SilmarilS79
Жыл бұрын
Looks like the Dayton GF180. I made a built with these... very good for the low price.
@VicariousAdventurer
6 ай бұрын
"Tang Band W8-2145 8" Paper Cone Full Range Driver 8 Ohm" might provide a more realistic attempt, but will be inferior to a two-way utilizing the HIVI C8 8" Reinforced Paper Cone Woofer, which has a smooth curve, this let small parameters that make me salivate, and even a review from a really small-scale speaker designer.
@matyi1656
Жыл бұрын
On the other side, I put hifi speakers into my trunk (its a combi), paired them with a pioneer headunit having dynamic bass on, and it is better than having an actual woofer back there lol
@ramondelgado6778
Жыл бұрын
Awesome review!!! That was really fun and something I’ve wanted to do for a long while now! Thank you for confirming this would be more involved and technical than just a driver swap!!! Loved it! Thank you Randy!!!!
@mtmatutum
3 ай бұрын
I had small bookshelf speakers that had the woofer (4-inch) and tweeters die on me. Like you, I substituted new 2-way German brand co-axial car speakers that I had on hand in place of the woofer. They don’t sound great but I use them as workshop speakers and they do a decent job.
@RobertSpiller
Жыл бұрын
Hey Randy...FYI On amazon the Sony's are on sale for $148...that's a savings of $51 dollars. One last question...which cables should I get with them...RCA or what
@stenstensen3522
9 ай бұрын
Try an expensive coaxial car audio speaker like the Sony XS-160ES. They sound incredibly good in a proper box. Construct an old school wide baffle closed box, with about 15 litre volume. The speaker should be located asymmetrical at the baffle. This will avoid baffle step.
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