I bought the same white pearl SR+ as yours one month ago, and I LOVE the car SO much! The audio quality is great, the acceleration is perfect for everyday use, and the range is OK if you do not travel too far too often. Here in Quebec, Canada, not only the LR is CAD$12K more expensive, but you don't get the CAD$13K government incentive, so in the end the LR gets CAD$25K more expensive than the SR+! Needless to say the SR+ choice is financially a no-brainer. Thank you for all your great videos Robert! They helped me a lot to make my final decision to buy the Model 3 SR+. You are our flag bearer.
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alain, I appreciate that!
@RubenHernandez-qx5zd
4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same i have SR+ the audio is great. I love driving that computer on wheels
@thierrybergeron
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Finance side in Quebec, SR+ is the best choice. I just wondering how the propulsion model will deal with our winters. I drive 150km/day (94 miles). So an electric car is definitely my next choice and SR+ should be enough, even in winter. The traction (RWD vs AWD) is my concern, but at 25K$ more, it's too much for me. SR+ will probably my choice.
@Haldexify
4 жыл бұрын
I aldo agree. I got the car as my own compny car, but wouldnt bother to change to a lr awd even the company have the money
@bassemel-effendi2283
3 жыл бұрын
Thierry Bergeron I’m also looking to buy SR+, also worried about rear wheel drive. Have you found the question to the answer yet?
@arthurschalick2362
4 жыл бұрын
We have had our red M3 SR+ for one month now and love it. As retirees we don't need the longer range on a regular basis. Plugging it into 120v house current works for us. We did go on one long trip. As it turned out,we were ready for a break when the car needed to be charged, so range wasn't an issue, especially with the number of superchargers to choose from.
@lindsaybrown7639
3 жыл бұрын
I am a retire too, here in Australia there are not many Superchargers as we wanted to go on a drive from Melbourne to Adelaide (cannot at moment as covid lockdown) we did a test drive to Ballarat and found we had to charge to dive back home only 204 Klm round trip. The battery was at 40% when we arrived at Ballarat not enough to get home. The next charger is Horsham which going by the range is almost at limit of SR+. Let alone trying to go from Keith to Adelaide we would run out.... so not good for Australian long drives still. Even using other Chargers from Chargefox range is still an issue. Our Winter is around 1Deg C at night 15 Deg C during the day very cold, we loose too much Battery with the cold. So could not recommend to my friends the SR+
@wingsdesire1
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not dragging it out and giving the answer upfront, really appreciate it!
@pilot1226
4 жыл бұрын
Range is king. Over time having to stop on your 150 mile example trip would be a source of resentment towards what should be a fun car. I’d have to skip the SR+ if that was a concern. For me, I drive from shore areas in the summer to work which is about 60 miles each way, this would be an issue. I’d go LR and never need to worry about stopping for a charge.
@thadlm2698
4 жыл бұрын
Personally I agree with you, the $9k in additional juice for the LR is definitely not worth the squeeze. My SR+ was and remains the best value proposition for me. Great job with the video!
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thad!
@frederickarcala4749
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I use (or used) my SR+ mostly for commuting from Everett WA to Seattle and just running errands. I have driven to car to my house in Port Townsend which is 140 miles from Everett with no problems. I just charged up at the house.
@KennetSilva
4 жыл бұрын
Great video Robert, something you have to mention is that if you live like in PA , NY, Chicago etc (states with really cold weather) you loss approx. 30% of your range, so your 250 miles goes down to 175 miles. I have a LR Dual Motor and I wish Tesla could sell a LR+. Personally I wouldn’t recommend a SD+ if you live in a state with low winter weather, believe me you will regret it as soon as you see the snowflake symbol on your battery.
@hakeem7152
4 жыл бұрын
So winter = bad for the SR+ ?
@shalawsorchi
3 жыл бұрын
I live in Norway and I can agree 🤣
@KennetSilva
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem Ha is bad in general for any EV.
@Sofidoxi
3 жыл бұрын
Good thing I waited for the updated Model 3 which comes with a heat pump that helps keep the battery warm during cold weather
@PhilT993
4 жыл бұрын
One major consideration with range is where you live and what your climate is. If you live in California, that is no problem, but I live in Eastern Ontario, Canada where it is below freezing for about 5 months of the year. We had snow yesterday! In the coldest months it can be 30, or more, degrees below freezing. When it is really cold like that you can loose about 30-40% of your EV range. Your 160 mile trip becomes a bit more of an issue then. Tesla's handle cold temps better than other EV's, but there is still significant losses during the winter. Tesla Superchargers are also few and far between in Canada. I plan to buy a Model 3 or Y this year and it will definitely be a long range AWD, considering the cold and snow here.
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Great point! Thanks Phillip!
@brookerosenfeld668
3 жыл бұрын
The Tesla Model 3 is one of the coolest cars ever.
@larryrichmond
4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree and made the same decision. I couldn’t get past the $9k price difference. I’ve gone 1,000 mile road trips. I will say the range takes a big hit in the winter so folks should be aware of that if they plan on going on trips in the winter.
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
And now you can get used LR AWD with ~20,000 miles with FSD in the mid to low $40,000 range. Amazing deal
@elexmankc3027
4 жыл бұрын
While I do not own the SR+, I do have the Mid Range Model 3. Spoiler alert, this is the best car I have ever owned!! This car gives such an incredible value proposition to the owner and is worth every penny of the purchase price. Performance characteristics are almost identical to the SR+. To be fair, the SR+ had just been announced and wasn’t readily available just yet when I ordered my Mid range, but my decision making process was almost identical. For that very short period of time, the SR+, Mid Range and Long Range were available to consider. My decision was based on spending more money to get 50 miles more range, as the mid range has the same features as the Long Range. And yes, those missing features on the SR+ did affect my decision. Ultimately, I wanted the most affordable Model 3 with every expected creature comfort option included. So, the acceleration performance and this car is great!! I have taken my car on extended road trips, and it is awesome. I charge at home and have had no range anxiety. I have absolutely no regrets buying my Model 3!!
@jdear97
4 жыл бұрын
I wanted to get a sense of what owning an electric car was all about, so I purchased a used 2015 BMW i3 with the range extender (35 HP Generator that recharges the Battery on the go) This car only has about 60 miles of usable electric range and I am amazed at how infrequently I need the Range Extender on Normal Daily Drives. I am convinced that the Standard Range + Model 3 is the sweet spot for most drivers and plan to purchase virtually the same car that you have. Add in the Supercharger Network and the Tesla will be hard to beat. $40,000 is still a lot of money to spend on a vehicle, it will be the most expensive vehicle that I have ever purchased, before the $5000 dollar tax credit that NJ will provide. I appreciate your review, it solidifies my desire for the Standard Range Model. I continue to be amazed by how well the BMW i3 works, small and quirky as it is. The interior of the vehicle is awesome.
@bobby45
4 жыл бұрын
I have SR and love it. Still Smoke most people off the line. Range is fine for everyday commute.
@harrygonzalez8679
4 жыл бұрын
Before coming up with an estimate that doesn’t make sense on how far you drive your car just because you drive around the neighborhood or nearby cities, drive your car to a total of 35,000 miles in 10 months, then you will know for sure how far it can drive before you recharge on the road again, but mostly know it’s capabilities and limitations.
@BossMan302
4 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest difference between the two is most definitely the AWD vs RWD. The range is whatever but getting an all wheel drive for 10k more is so worth it if you live somewhere it snows.
@harrygonzalez8679
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 240 mile standard plus and I’ve driven as far as 190 miles going to work one way before I charge to make it to work for a drive of 258 one way trip twice a week.
@realbenjoyo
4 жыл бұрын
I see it the same way. For some people 9000$ is enough to make the difference between affordable and not so affordable and when that's the case the SR+ is the best way to get into the Tesla world.
@stuka78
4 жыл бұрын
I do 100% agree with you and the guys here below commenting. I have a white SR+ and for daily usage is perfect. In these days of quarantine, I am just consuming the battery for the sentry mode :-) We do live in Amsterdam (NL) but we are from Monza (IT); for next summer we plan to got o Italy by car, ca. 1,200 km one way, then we will experience how it is driving so long on electric. Fortunately, Germany and Switzerland (the countries we have to cross) have quite a good charging stations networks, both Tesla and 3rd parties.
@tomhenry5870
4 жыл бұрын
Premium connectivity is available for$10.00 per month. Totally worth it! I mistakenly thought I would get satellite maps with my SR+ so when premium connectivity became available a few months after delivery I jumped on it. Love the streaming audio (no commercials), satellite maps and web browser capability. Have not done any long trips yet so range has not been an issue. It does suck that the 1000 free supercharger miles I got expire after 6 months. Tesla did not tell me that! I did not know the Tesla app started showing an expiration date only about 30 days prior to expiration and after Covid 19 hit so I have no chance of using those miles.
@danielmarkiewicz8489
4 жыл бұрын
i have SR+ in Poland Europe since August 2019. I love the car BUT... i bought it with FSD that is useless in Europe, so i wish i spend that money to buy LR instead. Why? 50% more range, AWD, ambient light, speakers, premium connectivity. Also for some unknown reason i have 2,5 computer with no way to upgrade it to 3.0 yet.
@akspsm
4 жыл бұрын
Cool video! No bull..it! Everybody is talking like: “...oh, it’s ONLY 5,3 sec 0-60 mph! So slow!!!” WTF people?! 5,3 sec 0-60 mph is much more than OK! Look around you! Every day driving... how many times you were annoyed by people who crawl were they should drive, city driving, traffic jams... Be realistic! When was the last time you did 0-60 mph with your every day ride? Please reply
@brandonott7258
4 жыл бұрын
akspsm 5.3 seconds to 60 is faster then most daily drivers like a v6 Camry at 5.8 seconds for the 2020 model.
@Jhoodemcee
4 жыл бұрын
I did a 0-60 pull this weekend. Just messing around doing some spirited driving.
@MarksTech
4 жыл бұрын
I own a Tesla SR+ and I always do 0-60's lmao
@sergioalvarez4549
4 жыл бұрын
For real!! I just bought a model 3 after having a Toyota Corolla. The thing had a 0-60 time of around 9.5 seconds or so. 5.3 is a world of a difference and it’s still super fun!
@flyboypat
4 жыл бұрын
A have a SR Plus. I really wanted the long range. My commute is a little over 100 miles round trip. In the winter, I would charge to 90% and only make it home with as low as 10%. That's with no stops. If I had to stop somewhere on the way home, I would have to stop at a supercharger to make it home. Road trips to my in-laws, is 450 miles one way. Because of the spacing of the supercharger, I have to stop at 3 superchargers. If I had the long range, I could have gotten away with stopping at 1 supercharger, maybe 2 in the winter. I knew it was going to be tough, with the SR Plus, but I was already stretching the budget. Now that I've had it for almost a year. I would have bought the long range with no FSD, then bought the FSD later.
@flyboypat
4 жыл бұрын
I live in northern Illinois. The long range would have gotten me all wheel drive, 70 extras miles in range, quicker 0 to 60, full premium package and faster charging at V3. I think I would have been better off getting the long range superchargers
@vistagraphsnet
4 жыл бұрын
You did not mention all wheel drive... big difference.
@OnlyPenguian
4 жыл бұрын
One other consideration is that the Standard Range Plus is lighter and more efficent than the Long Range. I live in Australia and personally am not used to big heavy cars. Even the Tesla Model 3 seems big to me after having driven a Mazda 323 for 24 years.
@stuka78
4 жыл бұрын
same here... moved from a fiat panda to tesla m3... impressive change! (in europe, of course)
@MiguelRodriguez-mj2ec
4 жыл бұрын
I have a SR+ and the first few weeks I had range anxiety, but it's really no big deal at all. 250 miles is more range than people imagine. On long trips it's no big deal if you plan your stops wisely, but for every day use it's way more than enough. My constant issue is getting the battery low enough for supercharging so that goes to say something about how good the range actually is.
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
Highly doubt you get 250 miles per charge. I get realistically 160 miles per charge in my 2019 SR+.
@casperhansen826
4 жыл бұрын
I made a very long route on abrp and the difference was ½ hour charging between a SR+ and a LR AWD, my daily commute and visiting friends and family would easily be accomplished using a SR+ so the $12K difference (In Denmark) is really not worth it. This winter we didn't even have snow so the AWD is not usefully since I am not into speed and acceleration.
@gwenandersen
4 жыл бұрын
I just placed my order. Not only was it not worth it, I got a shorter range still by getting the $35k version, which limits you to 80% of battery capacity. When I go on long trips I like to stop and get out. I do not foresee a problem.
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@ricardomiyakawa
4 жыл бұрын
I agree 9,000 is too much but for 5000 I would had chosen the long range
@lindsaybrown7639
3 жыл бұрын
There are other differences which only become apparent after you get a SR+ that are not listed as differences between the two models, besides the Audio System. There is no Fog lights on the SR+ (which we needed as we live in a Fog area and was not advised they would not be fitted, there is no mention on website they are not fitted.) There is no foot well lights. (which was not on the difference between the 2 models and as we live in a dark area, no lights, it is very annoying as we have to carry a torch) The DRL lights are different between the models. The Audio System sounds very poor in back seats as only a couple of small speakers. (sounds tinny) The Range is an issue here in Melbourne Australia as it is cold which reduces the range. 1Deg C night to 15 Deg C day...... If further north in Australia it is a lot warmer. The differences are very annoying as so minor, but impact user experience, more so in dark country areas, it is very disappointing.
@laozilover
4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I took standard black on April 20 of last year and only wish that I had known to wait a month to get pearl white for the same price!
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain! What a bummer!
@neptunemike
3 жыл бұрын
I’m in the opposite, as a white model 3 owner, now I see a lot of white teslas and wish I got black lol 😂
@laozilover
3 жыл бұрын
@@neptunemike Want to trade? :-)
@chrisraymondmusic
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just ordered a SR+ The extra range is very nice but the 9K extra just doesn’t seem worth it right now.
@jaynunes2501
4 жыл бұрын
Everything you say about range and distance is true. Experience definitely varies depending upon your driving needs. One important factor you didn’t mention,probably because you live in Southern California, is the fact that the long range is all-wheel-drive. Living up north where it snows and conditions are often bad all wheel drive was a huge consideration when looking at the $9000 price difference.
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Good point, thank you Jay!
@BzReef
4 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Great video! I went back and forth for weeks before I placed my order for the LR. I have a 110 mile a day commute and I was having a little bit of range anxiety before ordering the car. The only thing I think you forgot to mention was that the LR is AWD and the SR+ is RWD. For some that may not be a big deal but for me (I live in Ohio) and we can get some nasty winters. That actually weighed quite a bit on my decision.
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Very good point, thanks Brandon!
@TheTeslaLife
4 жыл бұрын
Brandon, keep in mind, AWD is not required for snowy areas, just a good set of snow tires. I have a RWD LR Model 3 here in Ontario, with the snow tires there is no issue here.
@matthinkel9653
3 жыл бұрын
I live in a more remote city where I make a lot of out of town trips that are 240 miles away. Over time, it is definitely worth having the extra mileage to get me to my destination.
@douglasmartyn
4 жыл бұрын
Good video but I think perhaps your underplaying some of the differences. I have a LR and in Scotland’s cold winter weather the 330 range (which no one achieves on a long trip) easily drops to 180/190 miles max. I would suspect the standard range would also drop by a third which leaves a very restricted range. The main benefit for me which few people refer to is the all wheel drive. Every car which has a four wheel drive option drives better than the two wheel drive option and the model 3 is no different, it is way the best driving car in the current Tesla range in my opinion. Also you have excellent winter conditions driving and you have a ‘get you home’ motor in the very unlikely event one should fail. Sound system, I am totally out of step here I don’t think it’s that great compared to premium European or US cars, but maybe I am not setting it up correctly. Is the LR worth the extra I think so definitely, for me, but the Standard range is a fantastic car and other people will have better things to spend the $7000 saving on.
@888rocketman
4 жыл бұрын
Love my SR+ No regrets here.
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
I regret mine
@jordanmcmullen7731
4 жыл бұрын
70+miles commute round trip. SR+ has never been an issue. I have a ton of battery left at the end of the day if I need to run errands. Make sure to switch the display from miles to %. Miles display/readout is trash.
@jishanchowdhury5766
4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about the SR, but realizing the stuff I am missing and 75 more miles added. I am definitely planning to buy LR.
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong the the LR!
@stuka78
4 жыл бұрын
... but it's almost 10k USD more!!!
@RubenHernandez-qx5zd
4 жыл бұрын
I did not buy the LR cause im saving those 10k for FSD. But the LR is fantastic if you can afford it
@christopherjohnson4263
4 жыл бұрын
for $300 you can get the rear heated seats software unlocked
@John-209
3 жыл бұрын
Well I went ahead and watch the video and now I will say you are RIGHT on the money fella😂😂
@VitaliysUnboxing
4 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention that long range have dual motor all-wheel drive
@Kaiyening
4 жыл бұрын
Vitaliy's Unboxing also, the second motor is of a different type, and provides much more torque off the line
@svetayuferova8155
4 жыл бұрын
i`m just wondering . 300 HP and rear wheel drive.. in winter with snow and icy streets .. any experience?
@johnparsons3454
4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have the better audio system but I use it mainly for podcasts and audio books. So far I haven't come close to taxing the battery on my SR plus so I agree that, at least for me, this is the one that I would buy again. Now if they downsize a version of the cybertruck to fit on European roads I would trade in my plus for that.
@mjohnsimon1337
3 жыл бұрын
I'm stuck between buying the SR+ or the Long-Range by the end of 2021. I would love a car to have as much range as possible (more so compared to my current Toyota Yaris), and I would love an EV. I think it's time for me to switch from ICE to EV's (Plus, my Yaris is nearly 10 years old, has over 100k miles, and is starting to become a hassle to maintain properly). When plugging in some basic info on A Better Route Planner (recommended by someone on reddit), I made a trip from Miami to Tallahassee for the Tesla cars (the Yaris I used my previous experience). The total trip is around 482 miles. With my Yaris, that trip would take me around 7-9 hours but would require at least 2-3 stops for gas alone. With the current gas prices in the state of Florida, I would pay anywhere between $40-$75 on gas alone for this 1 trip (double on the way back). It does not include the number of bathroom stops either. With the Long-Range model, the trip would take 7h 55 min and 2 charges (15-20 minutes per charge, and $20 total). Sounds awesome right? A heck of a lot better than my Yaris price wise! But with the SR+, the same exact trip would take 8h 27 min and 4 charges (10-15 minutes per charge, and $25 total)... a 30 min and $5 difference with 2 additional stops. That's honestly not that big of a difference for me to justify buying a LR for $10k more, and it's similar to what I did with my Yaris. I did the same thing with other route planners, and got very similar results. So as of now, I'm more likely to get the SR+. People have been telling me to get the LR instead for added goodies (such as AWD, dual motors, sound, etc) and in case I suffer any battery depletion, but no one was really specific, and I couldn't find any of that information on the actual Model 3 page and how much depletion to expect by the end of the year. Also, the depletion numbers I do hear about really don't sound all that terrible either Hopefully this helps!
@michaelm.7418
2 жыл бұрын
I decided to go with the SR+ and will add on the rear heated seats add-on. I couldn't justify the extra $9k and want the LFP batteries (my delivery is in Mar 22).
@Sofidoxi
3 жыл бұрын
The new UPDATED MODEL 3 comes with 263 miles if I am not mistaken not to mention also with a heat pump and many more awesome more updates ... I am about to get mine next month.
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
Realistically you wont see 263 miles per charge as you only charge up to 90% and let it run to ~10% so it's really a sub 200 mile ranger and if you step on the pedal which you will you'll get even less
@akm3726
4 жыл бұрын
I just traded in a Camry XLE for a Standard Range Plus. I was disappointed with the Tesla sound quality - noticeably worse, especially with symphonic music. I miss the garage door opener - minor but annoying. The navigation system is a bit late (compared to the Garmiin I've been used to) in cueing turns - I missed a few in Savannah last weekend. I would have expected better from a $46K car (after taxes, etc). Otherwise the Tesla is great and fun to drive.
@TeslaEnthousiaste
4 жыл бұрын
I bought the same white pearl SR+ as yours two month ago too, and I'm so happy with it. Thanks for your video ! See you on the next one. :)
@stuka78
4 жыл бұрын
mine too, 1,260 km on the clock now, fallen in love with it since the very first minute
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anthony!
@theemfam5637
3 жыл бұрын
I recently also bought a SR+ but with silver gray. Can't wait for it to arrive! Thanks for the info!!
@RobertRosenfeld1
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@sicarguy4478
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed..same Here ... love my SR+ even in the cold .. even up hills , even though can only charge 90% on a daily basis...but I wish I would have been told that b4 the purchase ... but still would have purchased it because of the great value... I enjoy your videos ..!
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@praslisa
4 жыл бұрын
why only 90% charge? coz of the weather?
@zmaskillz9702
4 жыл бұрын
The big decision in buying a standard versus a long range is affordability $$$. if you can afford it definitely buy the long range.My experiences with the long range is aprox 275 actual real world driving miles.
@pilot.michele
4 жыл бұрын
I bought the SR+ too and I love it. The only thing it could be better is the audio system. The SR+ audio system is great but i think the additional subwoofer and speakers from the LR are superb. But I didn't want to pay € 10,000 more for this. For me the range is absolutley enough. After 2600km (1615 miles) I have not paid one cent for electricity :D
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree. Wish there was some way to upgrade the audio system without physically installing equipment and running cable.
@benfarrow9498
2 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the SR+ now, another year later? Battery, range, options? There is the hansshow speaker upgrade kit you could get
@GedUK
4 жыл бұрын
For me, in the UK, with the poor distribuution of superchargers in the areas I'm most likely to visit, the long range is probably more useful
@maxx9384
3 жыл бұрын
I got the long range, simply because I considered the reselling price..
@ZekeMagnum
3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if LR holds its value more than SR+
@rehabwales
3 жыл бұрын
I think in a country Like the US the long range makes sense but here in the UK the SR+ is more than good enough.
@johnparsons3454
4 жыл бұрын
Oh ya, the guy mentioned on this feed about 4 wheel drive. That was a tough one for me as we get snow too. The sales guy said the RWD works great in the snow because of the location of the batttery pack and I thought pffft. I haven't tested it in snow but I notice when I gun it from a standing start in wet conditions the rear wheels don't spin. Any ICE car with this torque would leave a very impressive patch on the road. So I'm thinking that this car will be decent in the snow. KZitem videos say that but next winter we'll test it out.
@DJCryptoStix
3 жыл бұрын
I want the long range but I'll take anything at this point
@Ralphsearsart
3 жыл бұрын
I have the long range just do you will kick yourself if you don’t.
@renatobenitez8288
4 жыл бұрын
I have the Standard Range model 3 and the range is perfect for me... my commute round trip is like 30 miles so I have plenty of power to run around all day. Once I get home I charge it right up on my level 2 charger and I’m at 90% within 2 hours.... 😃 #savingformycybertruck
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@nishadias258
4 жыл бұрын
How would you say the Driving Experience differs with the Rear Wheel drive in the Standard versus the All Wheel Drive in the Long Range, other than the Range and Interiors?
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
Night and day. AWD has full power delivery when making a turning stepping on the pedal. In the SR+ traction will come on and the power just stops for a second. Dual Motor always has more pull and punch when accelerating which is awesome.
@peten6445
3 жыл бұрын
10k is too much for me as well
@KrisFlix
4 жыл бұрын
I have the 2020 model 3 performance. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
@patrickgroll2046
3 жыл бұрын
The only thing holding me back from the m3 performance is that you have to get it with the large wheels. That's not enough rubber to deal with the potholes around here. For this reason alone, the regular Long Range model seems to me to make more sense. They don't seem to offer an option to downgrade to the standard wheels.
@KrisFlix
3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickgroll2046 I get you. I have a lot of potholes where I live too. Live in Central California. Roads here are horrible. I have blown 2 tires on my BMW due to potholes. With that said, knock on wood, I haven't had any issues yet with my Model 3 tires. I have almost 20 thousand miles now on the car, with still the original tires. No issues yet. It's about time though, for a new set of tires. The other thing that sucks about these large low profile tires are the tire life. They don't get very many miles out of them.
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
@@KrisFlix I got only 18,200 miles out of my stock Conti Silent tires on my SR+ lol
@KayakFishingAddict
4 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot the LR has AWD. That said, I appreciate your thoughts and I agree, even though I'm not a Tesla owner yet. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the STD vs the STD+. At the moment, it's a $3K difference now that the price has dropped. The STD lacks AutoPilot and loses (programmatically) 30 miles of range. Are those two items worth $3K?
@rayc6689
3 жыл бұрын
Also don’t forget range loss over time.Over time the degradation will be easier to absorb if you have more range than needed
@mrmcclear
4 жыл бұрын
SR+ owner here as well. I purchased my car in March of 2019. Question for everyone who also bought one around then: My car can only charge to 233 miles... it has been like this ever since I have gotten it. Do others have this issue as well?
@nate6249
4 жыл бұрын
you never get what tesla offers mine is on paper 310 but it only charged to 290-300 m. just use percentage
@mrmcclear
3 жыл бұрын
I have the same experience as you do. I also got my SR plus in March of 2019. Currently, it only allows me to charge to 227 miles.
@pianodon
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Robert. I'm about to order a model 3 standard range Plus. At least once or twice a year I have a road trip, 550 miles each Direction. So are you saying that I'll only get like a hundred and eighty miles on the highway before I need to charge? I'm wondering, what speeds you drove why the 240 miles with so much lower than you thought. Am I making sense? Please give me a little feedback here. I don't mind stopping but I don't I don't want to stop every 160 or 180 miles if it won't go any farther than that. I will probably Drive 65 miles per hour or 70 miles per hour. I have a Nissan Leaf and at 70 miles per hour, it sucks the energy. Thanks.
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the comment! Most of the range hit was highway driving on AutoPilot at 75-80mph for the majority of that stretch. There's also some change in elevation that's affecting range too. For normal out and about driving, or even the occasional road trip, you'll be fine. Also at 100% charge you can get the very most range out of your battery.
@mrmcclear
3 жыл бұрын
Your model 3 with advertised range of 240 mi cannot complete a 140 or 150 mi trip on a single charge? Why are people not making a bigger deal about this?
@mjohnsimon1337
3 жыл бұрын
Well that's the thing. Every car is different and there are a ton of variables to consider (wind, elevation, temperature, etc). But even then, that seems a bit drastic. It's likely he was implying that the car asks for him to make a charge, but that's still pretty interesting nonetheless
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
You have to drive slow in order to get close to EPA range. I've never even seen 200 miles out of my "240 mile range SR+" because I drive it hard. Usually 150 miles per charge
@larrycbrown1
4 жыл бұрын
i have and a model 3 sr+ and i agree with all your points. I have heard the lr and sr+ have the same battery it is just software limited. maybe someday they will allow us to turn on the extra range.
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
I have an SR+ and would not buy it again. LR AWD should be the bare minimum. Do not drive an AWD if you own a SR. You will regret the SR lol. And do not drive a Performance will ruin you even more
@enegizedadam
3 жыл бұрын
I love tesla as much as the next tesla fanboy
@Teboski78
4 жыл бұрын
How many what hours per mile do you typically get?
@jcnr371
4 жыл бұрын
My main concern with the sr+ is range loss during winter... we live in northern NJ and winter can be a little harsh from time to time.. anyone has any thoughts or experiences to share?
@KrisFlix
4 жыл бұрын
El Juancho Move to Cali
@TJC450
4 жыл бұрын
El Juancho they say it’s about 40% loss in range. But that’s fine because I don’t go too many places in the winter. Too damn cold lol
@urbangrl3031
4 жыл бұрын
Call me nieve or just not knowledgeable, i am looking at the model 3 but my price range is going to be more in the sr +, if you park in a garage where it doesn’t get as cold as parking out in the elements would you still lose that much in battery capacity?
@TJC450
4 жыл бұрын
Kati Wood you would probably Lose some but not as much
@John-209
3 жыл бұрын
You are DEAD wrong fella😳😳
@lindsaybrown7639
3 жыл бұрын
The SR+ does have other items missing compared to the LR which are very disappointing but not mentioned on the website till you go and pick up the car and look for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@John-209
3 жыл бұрын
@@lindsaybrown7639 like what, floor lights I think?
@lindsaybrown7639
3 жыл бұрын
@@John-209 The Foot well floor lights as the area is so dark at night and in winter is worse as you can not see the floor of the cabin at all. I live in just out of Melbourne Australia and there are no street lights. We also get a lot of Fog and was not advised that there woudl be no fog lights on the car as we were shown cars with Fog lights on and Floor Cabin lights. So very disappointed.... WOULD NOT RECOMMEND SR+ to friends not in the city, as too dark inside along with Fog an issue, not even an option for upgrade for out of city users. Very Disappointed.
@John-209
3 жыл бұрын
@@lindsaybrown7639 that really sucks because they had the fog lights in the 2019‘s and 2020s. Mine is a 2019 standard range plus and it has fog lights but I’m in California
@lindsaybrown7639
3 жыл бұрын
@@John-209 Maybe that is why with the Update they took them out but did not update the Webpage, as the webpage did not show they were not present or the interior foot well lights. That is why I cannot recommend the SR+ to anyone as we need fog lights here, not even an option, unless you go to LR which in Australia costs $80K about $20K more than the SR+ for Fog Lights!!!!!!!!!
@davn7723
4 жыл бұрын
of course you made mistake , thats why i got the m3p so happy i did
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
This is correct lol
@alexgelvezon5063
3 жыл бұрын
Here from Sunny San Diego saying thank you Robert for this review! I ordered a 2021 Model 3 SR+ two weeks ago and hope to get the keys by the end of next month; great review.
@jasonblackley2977
3 жыл бұрын
I'm in San Diego too and going to test drive this weekend at Fashion Valley. How are you liking it so far? I'm still in limbo with the SR+ or LR as my wife is a in home NP and travels everyday to see her patients in South County.
@alexgelvezon5063
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonblackley2977 Hey Jason and Happy Thursday! It’s almost the weekend. Thank you for reaching out, I definitely think you’re not going to go wrong with either decision. Individually, I love the convenience of the supercharging system, the smooth ride suspension, quick responsiveness, and environmental flexibility. One of the biggest things that was an initial concern for me, and may have been for other drivers, is range anxiety. I have mine set on ‘miles’, so as I’m driving I can see the estimated number of miles left. However, using the navigation feature inside the Tesla makes it a breeze because it shows my estimated battery percent to get to the destination that I want, and what it would be for a round trip. If the vehicle recognizes that I need to charge to reach either destination or return back home, it’ll recommend charging points along the supercharging network - very convenient. Personally, I live in Mission Valley and drive up to Mira Mesa and Oceanside to visit family frequently - it’s not a hassle at all. When you’re home, a bigger convenience (if you have this option) is charging in your garage. The overnight trickle charge is roughly 5 miles an hour, which means if you ‘sleep eight hours’ and have the car parked for those eight hours, you’ll hit roughly 40 miles. It doesn’t seem like a lot, but in all honesty, it’s nice to wake up to a full ‘tank’ or at least a bit more juice than how you left it. Please thank your wife for her frontline work! I’m on a clinical informatics team for a local health system here and I know how much dedication our medical professionals give to their patients. As an aside, I wanted to throw a quick bit about the sound system - I did not get the premium package, but I’m still in awe every time I get in the seat. On another personal note, I drove out to Phoenix last month for school and it was nice to have a break between driving to stretch my legs and walk around while the car charged (20-30 minutes), not bad at all. Lastly, Teslarati mentioned that one of the updates a few years back boosted the SR+ charge rate to roughly 170 kW (on a Supercharge) which is roughly equivalent to the LR - so, essentially the rate of speed to charge the battery is presumably no different. TL;DR - both options are outstanding, it just comes down to personal preference, range anxiety is nothing to be worried about (use the built-in navigation), especially with the charging options here in SD (and elsewhere)
@thejose24
4 жыл бұрын
Robert, I’m in (south) OC. You think I could drive to San Fernando valley, and drive back to OC on a single charge no problem with a Standard Range 3? (~160 miles total) That’s my main concern. Thanks!
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
I do this drive all the time, and it depends. It seems totally doable on paper, but the actual drive takes more like 200+ in range. You could probably do it with a full charge. I just did a video on range if you want some more info. Form south OC to the north end of the valley is doable, but I usually stop and charge at some point on the trip.
@thejose24
4 жыл бұрын
Robert Rosenfeld i got the answer after watching the video. I asked too fast lol yeah long range it is then. After all this craziness. Thanks man!
@kunalmishra9463
4 жыл бұрын
@@thejose24 The one thing I'll say -- you can *absolutely get* rated range in Southern California weather at 65 MPH. As you start to get faster than that, your energy consumption goes up exponentially (due to wind resistance) and there are a lot of threads on Telsa Motor Club (the Tesla community version of reddit or stackoverflow) that talk about how to optimize range. A few tips here -- have Aero covers on your 18" wheels + go 65 to 70 MPH. Start your trip and closely monitor "projected remaining energy" in the trip energy usage section of the console. 160 miles should be totally doable at rated speed. If you go 80 MPH, you'll find your range is about 2/3 of rated range, however.
@CraigTemple
4 жыл бұрын
Kunal Mishra Interestingly, going faster doesn’t take exponentially more energy. Yes, if you double your speed the wind resistance quadruples. But it only quadruples half as long (takes half as long to get there). So there’s actually a linear relationship between energy required and speed.
@mollygoodtimes8252
4 жыл бұрын
Thx 4 the vid, does the SR + charge as fast (V3) supercharger?....peace
@LeGo-zk1xf
4 жыл бұрын
Long range peak supercharging is 250 kW while SR+ is 170 kW. It all matters at very low state of charge of the battery. If it is over 25% the charging speed is basically the same.
@laozilover
4 жыл бұрын
@@LeGo-zk1xf - Thanks for the info - somehow I had missed knowing that!
@Johnbl261
4 жыл бұрын
I think sr+ is capable of v3 supercharging but software restricted because with the smaller battery pack will probably charge faster than 3lr .
@ocalajoe6440
4 жыл бұрын
Also I am happy with my SR+
@Kaiyening
4 жыл бұрын
I was going to get the standard range plus only, so thanks for calming me down here. Also, die those don’t know, premium connectivity is now included in SR Plus.
@Eireternal
4 жыл бұрын
No it isn't, its a trial.
@santiverdu2993
4 жыл бұрын
1 month trial in the SR+ vs 1 year trial in the LR. After that, you can pay around 10$/ month in both cases. Not a real difference.
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
@@Eireternal I have unlimited premium connectivity in my SR+
@eTreyu27
4 жыл бұрын
same same same... of course the updates would be NICE, but SR+ is fine for me as well (I got the white also). Audio is still pretty good as it is, range is fine, and iit is still fast AF, why do you need to go THAT much faster? But dude... when are you gonna chrome delete? Especially with the wheel covers off, it would look better IMO. I got a $150 kit on amazon, and it took some time, but it makes the white model look WAY better to me. makes a good video... just sayin.
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
Soon...dying to do it. Just gotta find the right time and the right kit or place to do it.
@eTreyu27
4 жыл бұрын
@@RobertRosenfeld1 i used the Nikola Pro. Comes with a heat gun and duplicates of each peice. Happy with the quality of film and video instructions. Only part I could get is the small camera sensors www.amazon.com/Nikola-Pro-Chrome-Complete-Included/dp/B07XMFPQDR
@WatcherXP
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you are *not* in the minority here.
@royhunter748
4 жыл бұрын
I agree! For the money, I believe that you have the right idea. However, it would be nice to have just a little bit better audio. I have the exact same car and I also would do the same thing again. Hoping Tesla avails Google Play Music soon. Thank you
@RobertRosenfeld1
4 жыл бұрын
I agree! Thanks Roy!
@borinvlogs
4 жыл бұрын
even a base bone stock poverty spec SR+ costs £41k in UK. Interior does not even feel premium for that price.
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
Ya it does
@lindsaybrown7639
3 жыл бұрын
The seats feel good in 3 modals, but the interior has no foot well lights, rear speakers are very small and sound very, very poor (like small speakers) then even though they say Interior premium, they also exclude fog lights which is exterior??????
@nickprudden4620
4 жыл бұрын
Ramble much ? Sheesh lol
@youandme3793
4 жыл бұрын
you are miss leading people Sr can easy make 150 miles on a full charge.
@InSaN3ViSioN
3 жыл бұрын
Nope he's correct. My SR+ gets 150 per charge. Never seen above 200
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