What do you all think? Do you think open relationships/marriages work?
@bernardoteodoro8951
Жыл бұрын
From the experience of one university student (in europe) I’m seeing this concept (plus hook up culture) causing much more harm than good, with friendships and relationships being ruined by it, and people understanding that they are not so in control of their emotions and desires, being controlled by them, most of the time, in this situations. Is easy to things to work out for 3 to 6 months, and that is the time the majority of this relationships endure in my experience, after that, shit begins. And because of this, my belief that the great majority of people are fundamentally pair bounding, just became stronger.
@erikclausen7629
9 ай бұрын
Meta conversation that admittedly might get addressed later as I haven't listened all the way through yet, but in regard to the 'success rate' study referenced at the beginning referencing 50% of monogamous and 8% of open relationships 'fail'. I reject the idea that there is such a thing, on either side of the spectrum. The idea that once a relationship ends, it qualifies as 'failure' is utter nonsense, as I'm sure we all know, or have experienced ourselves relationships that ended that made both parties better for it. Qualifying a relationship as a 'success' simply because it hasn't ended is fallacious as well. Just because something didn't last forever does not mean it was a failure, just as something that hasn't ended yet is therefore a success. When a 25 year relationship ends (as mine did), when did is stop being 'successful' or become a 'failure'?
@wtfatc4556
8 ай бұрын
Well I am shur most of open relationship are mor like no relationships. Hence the 8%. Never counted every date as a relationship
@lestermatos2989
2 ай бұрын
My god your voices are sooo sooothing! It’s asmr and PBS COMBINED
@markreynolds4176
4 ай бұрын
Divorce rate is skewed bc many people have multiple divorces. Heather metric is first time marriage divorce, which is closer to 30%
@arxatoli6775
Жыл бұрын
Wow so little views yet so much value , Open relationships could work only if both people are emotinally mature enough and have a solid foundation in their relationship. Now on the context of catching feelings with sex parteners i dont think its that bad. I mean whats so wrong about loving somebody ? Jealousy ? Well whats wrong with Jealousy ? Everything...litteraly the root of all evil it stems from EGO. Now if u find ur partner having more interest towards the other side of the court which is predominant fear when talking about open relationships,polygamy,polyamory etc. You have to realize that there simply wasnt enough interesst to begin with , they were just hanging out in a comfort zone with you. Heck its just the truth being uncovered, look at it like a stoic straight in the face and accepts it for what it is . Just like our poly sexual nature. AND NO sex is not just about Sex. Its about love weither people admit it or not. Being intimate with other people is just our lust for more validation and love
@jademarini1335
3 ай бұрын
Should have let the doc talk instead of steering the convo toward your personal opinion on the matter. But ok
@audunique6905
2 ай бұрын
Telling someone to stop having feelings for someone isn’t even possible. 😕 They might say they will stay away but in reality you just made it more taboo… they will continue seeing that person regardless. That’s why this is dangerous to monogamous relationships. You are sharing energy and fluids with other people and you’re not going to have feelings for them?? That’s just ridiculous in my opinion. Unless it’s like a one in done thing… you just don’t sleep with the same person. That’s probably the only way to keep this model honest.
@corysmith3447
4 ай бұрын
Ok the man on the right doesnt seem to know of the best kind of relationship there is for many or most people, an open relatioship wher eyou have only one wife or GF, and important that you dont DATE any other people (like will smiths fiasco) you only have 1 or 2 or more if you want freinds with benifiits that you see maximum 2-3 hours once a week or once a month so this does not create jelouisy and drama and you have more than plenty of time to spend with your kids and wife or GF, this has a huge succsfukl track record , most people do open relatioships wrong where they either have multpile girlfredins or wives, or they date othe people dooing confusing boyfreind behaviour like going on trips togethor metting their freinds and family spedning the entire night or two days in row etc. also id like to know where this 92% failure rate comes from there is no peer revieewd acedemic scintific study or survey i can find and ive checked for hours, can you post a link
@AnnaSarogianni
4 ай бұрын
These friends also fuck your wife or GF?
@letpeoplebe
17 күн бұрын
You are a man, arent you😅
@harunkhan9307
Жыл бұрын
Yes That`s Grate
@reny9351
3 ай бұрын
Guy on the right seems too closed minded and biased lol. I like the guy on the left gives emphasis on each topics without resorting to his own bias perspective.
@endlessroads9936
Жыл бұрын
Its will not work. You think that people will change if they have open relationship, So you set rules, If the person a cheater, you say ok we will have rules, but you can have sex . But dont breck those rules, You think its going change, say you have a rule, on weekends we need to have sex, but week day ylthen have other, then one find a partner they like better, they breck that rules, are clise there eyes think about the other, and you become the toy,, Why not get in a relationship, just date till find that one who hit all the piont you need.
27 күн бұрын
There is a misconceptions here. The fear that there is only 10% success shouldn't be the anti factor but rather the opposite. being open is a more philosophical concept of embracing the true uncertainty of existence and accepting that we are choosing everyday with who we want to be, and not be stuck in a relationships due to norms.
@themisfire1
Жыл бұрын
Great episode. But holy cow the THOUGHT of an open relationship gives me anxiety. I can't imagine trying to find another sexual partner at my age. Gah so thankful I'm happily married.
@12weekrelationships
Жыл бұрын
Haha, we’d generally agree with that as well ;)
@coburgkid
18 күн бұрын
Open relationship = Let me look for someone better while I have you at home until I find it.
@Rainy_Fernandez
Жыл бұрын
Interesting conversation! I’m a millennial and I personally never desired to be married and I also do not want kids. My views on marriage have been tainted by seeing the unhealthy relationship dynamic between my parents when I was growing up, society, and culture. I am only interested in a monogamous relationship and value loyalty, and having a deep emotionally and physically intimate connection with my partner and would treat the commitment as serious as a marriage, just without the piece of paper. I think loyalty is rare these days. I also don’t view sex as something casual. I think in general, people lack self control. Ultimately it comes down to values, and working on maintaining open and transparent communication (which is hard enough as it is for most people). I’ll never understand it but to each their own.
@letpeoplebe
17 күн бұрын
That piece of paper would protect your rights and deter a man openly cheating on you.
@Lookklaus
10 күн бұрын
I don't think you two are educated enough in open relationships. Multiple times during this conversation you confused open relationships with polyamory. I'd recommend spending time and listening to people in various types of open relationships. Many gay men especially make these work and it's not always in the context of two people at the end of their relationship.
@endlessroads9936
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha , having a contract ! a marriage is a contract , and its broke 70% times, how many of the open relationship contract will not be broke.
@coburgkid
13 күн бұрын
Open relationship = Let me look for someone better while I have you at home until I find that person.
@austinmurray5444
Жыл бұрын
Post-Nuptual. More like Post-NUTtual…inappropriate..
@sophiekhomiakova7385
2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but how can you compare these stats?! 50% of marriages end up with a divorce. It doesn't mean that 50% of marriages are successful. Logistics 101: AB≠BA. There are lots of reasons why people don't file for a divorce. What you should have compared instead is how many people are actually happy in a long-term married/not married relationship. I'm pretty sure you'd end up with the same statistics, about 8% max.
@dalisayvaldez3270
5 ай бұрын
These are fantastic arguments. Both sides have exciting views
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