You did it Archaon, you are the Warhammer: Age of Sigmar
@voxman3464
Жыл бұрын
He didn't say that.
@HyperNova0
Жыл бұрын
@@voxman3464He did, I was there.
@alextruecustodian6174
Жыл бұрын
@@voxman3464fun fact: He actually does in total war lmfao Archaon is the goat fr fr
@JD-bk4zi
Жыл бұрын
@@HyperNova0 He did indeed, I was gay
@TwistedAlphonso1
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video PancreasNetwork
@imperialfist2304
Жыл бұрын
“I am no slave! I am a worthy champion of the Dark Gods and carve my destiny in the heart of mortals!” - Every Slave to Darkness ever
@Flummoxed_Buffoon87
Жыл бұрын
"Sure, bub, I believe. Want a tissue for those cope tears, friend?" Every Order Player
@MagicHjalti
Жыл бұрын
Fax
@ouch2040
Жыл бұрын
Knowing chaos, they are most definitely literally doing that last part
@howdoyoudo5949
Жыл бұрын
"Shut up, git!" Every Destruction player.
@leonardogomez8812
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that even the nurglings are like that lol
@drunkenskeleton299
Жыл бұрын
Archaon is everything that Abbadon likes to LARP as, even down to having the cooler sounding evil “A” name
@Dragonage2ftw
Жыл бұрын
I’ve said this before. Archeon is the villain GW wishes Abaddon was.
@helwrecht1637
Жыл бұрын
Yes but archaon is still a cry baby
@Sen_1491
11 ай бұрын
@@helwrecht1637they can be both Ares was a little bitch in real mythology
@poggestfrog
11 ай бұрын
@@helwrecht1637 both have the personality of rocks but i don't see Abbadon riding on a three headed giant dragon with a miniature larger than some babies
@Fazbear-po5mm
10 ай бұрын
@@helwrecht1637it can also be added that currently even from the arks of omen it’s known that Abbadon struggles keeping his forces as chaos undivided without falling back to one god. Not including how restless be’lakor is and now Vashtor Archeon however just casually has better charisma stats to keep his forces ALWAYS in line, even being able to have Norscans on his side (be’lakor is an exception tho cause no matter the universe be’lakor knows he’s out for #1), And I mean… chaos space marines do have beast men too, but slaves to darkness get access to the rats, and that’s all that matters yes yes
@giacomoromano8842
Жыл бұрын
I like how the Age of Chaos starts because Chaos, united, win the big fight but, lost momentum and focus, it start infighting immediately, allowing for all the other factions to survive despite their inferior numbers. Fyreslayers, Sylvaneth, Kharadron, Lumineth, Orks and goblins... they all pulled it off because Chaos lost unity, even leaving itself vulnerable for Sigmar glorious counterattack. Indeed, Sigmar and the Azyrite factions risk to give Chaos a new, shiny giant target to unite against and fight as one.
@Prophetofthe8thLegion
Жыл бұрын
I always find it funny when people talk about the Age of Chaos or Horus Heresy and what not they say chaos lost because they “lost focus” and arguably yes the mortal followers did but I argue why would chaos want to win? Why would the Chaos Gods want what they view as the most hilarious game ever invented to end? Frankly in my opinion it’s all planned. It may screw the gods over in the end but it makes sense to me.
@jonathanwatson4484
Жыл бұрын
@@Prophetofthe8thLegionthe game never ends, the mortal realms is just the DLC expansion to them
@giacomoromano8842
Жыл бұрын
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion in my opinion, that is more 40k. The emperor completely misunderstood the Chaos Gods and his actions simply allowed them to have a galaxy wide play field of suffering and raw negative emotions on masse to feed upon, something better than whatever Horus would have obtained had he won. In Aos instead, Sigmar is a damn big threat. He knows what he is doing, his solution to removing corruption is not "nuke it" and the widespread and controllable form of magic and holy power allow the free people of aos to thrive and repel chaos whenever it presents itself. Hell, the elven gods trapped Slaanesh, that's no "joke" in the big game, that was a full on panic attack for everyone, Chaos Gods included!
@RetroRadianceLight
Жыл бұрын
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion Age of Sigmar does give us an explanation on why they would want to win. There are plenty of other universes out there. If this one ends, they can just move on to the other one.They've also ended one universe already with Fantasy so what's one more destroyed.
@berilsevvalbekret772
Жыл бұрын
@@RetroRadianceLightthey are like much more douchbag daedric princes with less universe dimensions on their back and call , stupider though.
@BossEvasion
Жыл бұрын
Karl Franz to a random chaos warrior that has a single noble trait: You’re cool, welcome to the Stormcast! *Bonks with Ghal Maraz.*
@lucaballarati9694
Жыл бұрын
It would be entertaining seeing an ex chaos warrior suddenly feeling empathy and going "How dare you infect me with morals"
@leonelimalevu7302
Жыл бұрын
Even in the most depraved and evil of warriors, Sigmar still sees a potential champion of his.
@jonathanwatson4484
Жыл бұрын
There was a worshiper of nurgle well more like slave to nurgle since he was a noble knight, were the storm cast seen he was a good man, so they charge his soul with lighting about let say 500000000000 bolts till nurgle corruption was literally burned away, he is now the head of a storm cast army
@KrimzonFlygon1
Жыл бұрын
Chaos Warrior: What is that? Sigmar: The Hammer of Redemption. DO YOU LIVE IN A CAVE?! (bonk) Sigmar: All is forgiven! :)
@isaiahsmith6016
Жыл бұрын
@@KrimzonFlygon1 Thanks Rolf. I mean Sigmar.
@expanddongerydoo34
Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite part of S2D lore are the Greenskin Wars. Where Archaon, seeing orcs as the massive threat they are, told one of his most important generals to take an incomprehensibly large army to Ghur and kill every single orc. It went about as well as you'd expect, ending with literal mountains of corpses and the general's skull being used as decoration in Varanspire.
@jonathanwatson4484
Жыл бұрын
I think I heard of it, i might be wrong but I heard it was the orks and the very land itself it was humorous
@spagwag3079
Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t this also the event that caused some Orruks to “evolve” into Ironjawz? Turns out when you almost obliterate a highly adaptable species in a fight they’ll come back even stronger because of it
@gwell2118
Жыл бұрын
@@spagwag3079 Kind off. It was quasi-retconned in the Orruk Warclans book that Ironjawz existed even as far back as the age of myth, however only in isolated areas as only under significant conflict d0 Orruks get big enough to become Ironjawz. So it wasn't until the Age of Chaos did they grow to big enough numbers to become a realm-spanning faction.
@wsspook
Жыл бұрын
Related to retconning: A little sad you didn't mention that in Storm of Chaos, Chaos didn't make it past Kislev ... the first city. They were stopped dead and the world *should* have started healing.
@crazyscotsman9327
Жыл бұрын
Seriously I hate how GW decided no we won't abide by the rules we created.
@Rawnblade13
Жыл бұрын
Didn't Grimgor whoop Archaon's ass in the original Storm of Chaos as well?
@crazyscotsman9327
Жыл бұрын
@@Rawnblade13 From what I recall Grimgor beat Archaon's ass by kicking him in the dick until he died.
@DatBrasss
Жыл бұрын
@@crazyscotsman9327he was headbutting him. The dick thing was Americans misunderstanding British slang.
@crazyscotsman9327
Жыл бұрын
@@DatBrasss Ah unfortunate, cause that'd have been funny as shit. Grimgor knocking the Everchosen down and then kicking him in the nuts until the Everchosen died.
@Never_heart
Жыл бұрын
I really do respect AoS for making all of the factions feel powerful without them feeling arbitrarily not winning. In 40k there are multiple factions that are not winning solely due to infighting. In AoS every faction feels like it should be in this stalement with the other factions because they all are powerful but not too much more than any other faction
@giacomoromano8842
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the expansions of the realms and the war of everyone with everyone in constant wars and infighting really sells this situation of stalemate, even if big events do play out.
@sovietunion7643
Жыл бұрын
but i mean warhammer fantasy was already doing that. high elves felt super powerful but limited by their island isolation and infighting with dark elves. wood elves were powerful and in tune with weird forest beasts but were so dogmatic that they really got the ire of most other factions around them and kept to themselves. the lizardmen fared great against chaos but struggled against more conventional militaries. even chaos itself always was infighting between the chaos gods, especially if chaos was doing well, and was rarely completely unified until the end times. most factions felt as if they had potential but due to other factions threat and internal infighting could never really go as far to dominate the setting. AOS just kind of repeated that. now i think certain parts of AOS are cool but to me it seems a lot of this already existed in fantasy.
@Never_heart
Жыл бұрын
@sovietunion7643 in a lot of ways ya, but it always felt that Chaos was never capable of truly winning in Fantasy. The Order tide in Fantasy was so stable and powerful that Chaos just couldn't break them. Between the Order factions, they were pretty even but Chaos was so weak. I think this vibe was why the End Times felt so forced, Chaos could only hold a few fortresses in the far north and south then suddenly they rule the world. In AoS, Chaos feels like it is a genuine threat to the Order factions without Chaos feeling like it should steam roll everyone. It's a weird balance the other Warhammer settings didn't quite hit
@sovietunion7643
Жыл бұрын
@@Never_heart maybe, but personally i never liked chaos being too strong. they worked well through proxies, with chaos cults and the norsemen always a threat to the north. it allowed other bad guys to have their day in the limelight, such as nagash, or even others such as the tomb kings. chaos being weaker in my opinion was a good thing that allowed a feeling of other factions being a threat and allowing a more natural progression of different races. both in 40k and AOS chaos is the biggest threat, and so few other evil (or even chaotic neutral) factions get time to shine much.
@jonathanwatson4484
Жыл бұрын
The only way to break the stalemate, is someone make a big move, even then in order to do that they have to focus all there energy on that move which would weaken them from outher moves, the only one who could make there move is maliketh since he is building his army and has a domain were chaos isn't cross but even then he has his mother politics and some invaders at his doorstep that the only thing to motivate him is when his domain suffer a massive invasion his mother can't handle it, only if his domain is truly in danger, then he would go "huh... oh....aaaaaagggggghhhhhh fine I do it myself, why am I the only one who hold the point." like I said the only way to break the stalemate is to make a big move which is a big gamble.
@D_Doyle
Жыл бұрын
If they are slaves to darkness, they should really invest in a lightbulb
@haroldearlgray5629
Жыл бұрын
😅🤣🤣😂😅😭😅😭😅🤣🤣😅🤣🤣😂😄😂😀😃😂😄
@malickmeziani_FreePalestine
Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@jnev5572
Жыл бұрын
Cousin Bjorn is positively glowing after his boon
@honkeykong4049
Жыл бұрын
They're slaves tho.. how can they invest in anything if they don't get paid?
@Reznore587
Жыл бұрын
@@honkeykong4049steal it
@carbodude5414
Жыл бұрын
Part of Archaon's biggest appeal for me, aside from his sick design, is that he's just as much of a threat to Chaos as the Order factions are. Just knowing that the Chaos Gods, who are invincible in 40k, are actually _scared_ of Archaon is pretty cathartic and they can't stop him because he never sold his soul for Daemon Princehood to them, showing that not only is it possible to become OP by staying as a Chaos Warrior (who all look really cool) but becoming a Daemon Prince is kind of a scam in the long run
@ghoulred8352
7 ай бұрын
To me this reflects in total war 3 for I always find that chaos warriors are stronger then demon princes some times
@generalgrizzly7914
5 ай бұрын
@@ghoulred8352 Yeah i pretty much only convert mortals to daemo prince for flavor or if they provide some meaningful buffs with the right army under them.
@quantumfridge
2 ай бұрын
10:40
@samiamtheman7379
Жыл бұрын
The average Warrior of Chaos, meanwhile, "I am an evil bastard," and then burns down a hospital because he finds it funny. It hits me that Erebus is just an average Warrior of Chaos that somehow made it into 40k.
@Hugme778
Жыл бұрын
And 40k ppayers hate him. Go figure
@Rukdug
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but he also just somehow doesn't come off as cool as your average Warrior of Chaos.
@alextruecustodian6174
Жыл бұрын
Tbf Erebus is all the evil and none of the cool stuff of the Warriors(except Daemon summoning) The Warriors of Chaos are evil, but not cowards
@jarlathquinn2628
11 ай бұрын
@@Hugme778well the idea of Erebus is to be hated
@Fazbear-po5mm
10 ай бұрын
Erebus is just a warrior of chaos larping not knowing why warriors of chaos are cool and just comes off as cringe
@dolomaticus1180
Жыл бұрын
Nurgle is the perfect Cosmic Drug dealer : "Oh are you afflicted with something that is rotting you death? Come worship me and Uncle Nurgy has all to help you take the pain away and live *BUT I wont mention that it was me who hit you with that gut rot in the first place and only did it to push you into the deal *. Remember first hit is free and I care...in the worst way possible!"
@voidwalkerbruh7426
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@Xahnel
26 күн бұрын
Toxic love!
@Julio_ap
Жыл бұрын
I wanted Ulfric to return with a Viking-themed faction for Age of Sigmar. Could have some white wolves to decorate the army. The story could be that he refused to back down along with Sigmar that he is very stubborn and wanted to keep fighting the chaos and now he doesn't like Sigmar because he thinks he's a coward and his followers don't like Sigmar either because they were the people that Sigmar left behind
@giacomoromano8842
Жыл бұрын
I converted a slave to darkness army with that theme. They are not chaos aligned, but they followed the "White Wolf", a god of winter, straightforward approach, family and war, with a nick for the survival of the fittest that isn't though pushed to it's most radical limit. They have a snuggle kingdom of semi-nomadic tribes all confederated together and a huge hate-bone with chaos and a half grudge with the sigmarites (mainly on their overbearing authoritative nature). I used many Space Wolves bits and weapons to make weapons of ice, burly women and men with long beards and mustaches, all tattooed where they are exposed and a giant direwolf as a Demon Prince.
@leonelimalevu7302
Жыл бұрын
It's funny you mentioned that, since I myself have been dreaming up an alternate ending to the Old World where MOST of the gods survived. And that because of their combined might, they nearly defeated chaos. But then that ugly necromancer (I forgot his name) did his thing, and the old world still blew up. With one group staying close to the remains of the old earth, thus allowing Sigmar to find them. And the others he couldn't find being presumed dead. But in truth, they escaped too, and have also presumed the other group has perished. So now Sigmar has got his own pantheon going on, while Ulric has got his own pantheon as well. His pantheon composed of some old gods like Myrmidion, Morr, Ursun, etc. And even some newly ascended beings such as miao ying, teclis ( in this alternate reality teclis and tyrrion got seperated), thorgrim, settra etc. Where would they be located? Why in the neighboring planetary system of course! How did they get there? Using one of the lizardmen's flying pyrramids, and opening a warp rift, they escaped ( now being the first people to use the warp to travel through space) into this new and uncharted system. How did they find it in the first place? They found some remaining artifacts about the Old Ones and the other worlds they visited, and thus found their golden ticket off the exploding Earth. Now I know this isn't sci fi, but this is the best thing I could come up with as of now. Feel free to correct me on anything.
@riokollivier
Жыл бұрын
Ulric is unfortunately canonically dead thanks to a double whammy involving Teclis and later Archaon. However, if you pay close attention to some stories about Sigmar and the Stormcasts, you’ll realize that Sigmar is just straight up Ulric’s successor. White fire? Check. God of Winter? Check. Anti-Chaos? Super check. All that’s left is to get some proper wolf and ice stuff going on in the forces of Sigmar and bam, the succession is complete.
@jonathanwatson4484
Жыл бұрын
@@leonelimalevu7302this could work, it need some written and polish but it can work, it is describe in lore that the slave to darkness have conquer outher worlds, maybe the mortal realm is the first world were the old ones came from which is why chaos has taken an interest in it, still it could be a good reason instead of ghost vikings and fey knights
@SnowLeopard784
Жыл бұрын
I'd settle for Bretonia, but instead of horses the knights have to settle for shopping carts pushed by peasants like they're on Jackass.
@overlordmadness1548
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the simplest things are the best. Just love the idea of “Why are you evil, because I can be”. I genuinely miss those types of villains/bad guys. So many evil forces nowadays have some kind of complex reason as to why they’re evil. I just want a evil force that just there to be evil. “Why did you set fire to the orphanage Jerry”!? “These s’more aren’t going to cook themselves Karen”.
@phnexOice
Жыл бұрын
There’s definitely merit to having complex villains who aren’t pure evil and have some reasonable justification for being evil, but sometimes you just want a villain who destroys cities cus they think it’s awesome
@kyleellis1825
9 ай бұрын
Meh, it feels like the order factions are just the "nuanced" version of evil and the chaos/bad factions just go all in on the evil.
@n.s.mcmahon6180
Жыл бұрын
I think they're a little more Powerwolf than Gloryhammer, but I guess it comes down to what tracks you pick. Also, I really miss evil villains who were just evil for evil's sake. I get that nuanced, believable, and morally gray characters were an evolution of writing that has become popular, but I think that pendulum is at risk of swinging too far.
@PhilosophicallyAmerican
Жыл бұрын
I second this. In reality people are evil just because they're greedy and think hurting people is inconsequential.
@Dunmerdog
Жыл бұрын
Theyre more Bloodbound than either
@colbygordon6936
9 ай бұрын
My goofy ass using powerwolf for the Empire
@berndsauerstein1946
Жыл бұрын
Aah, that feeling when, as a child(and only as a child of course), you were too lazy to exchange the lancettes regularily and they friggin hurt like heck. Also, is it just me or were the needles sturdier some ten years ago?
@exoblivione6086
Жыл бұрын
The callouses. I still have them.
@xanmontes8715
14 сағат бұрын
This is a joke that I'd need my pancreas to not work to understand, huh?
@bobjones5674
Жыл бұрын
Good guys in warhammer: Noooo! I'm not actually evil, i do it because.... (Coping and mental gymnastics) The bad guys in warhammer: I'm evil because I think it's cool.
@hoked2194
Жыл бұрын
More like: I'm evil because the alternative is dying terribly because Norsca sucks.
@Krood-j7n
Жыл бұрын
Cringe
@Hammers_Peace
Жыл бұрын
@@Krood-j7n Knife Ear cope
@Krood-j7n
Жыл бұрын
@@Hammers_Peace knife ear?? I'm more of a lizard person who just kill chaos without morals or justification 🦎🦎🦎🦎
@Hammers_Peace
Жыл бұрын
@@Krood-j7n I have a friend who plays lizardmen and it's very hard to get along, he is also a nid player lmfao
@engine4403
Жыл бұрын
Dont forget to mention almost all the cool rebellions that happen in 40k never do because of the whole "worst regime to ever exist" thing but its always chaos its always fucking chaos. Theres 3 ordos in the inquisition with them being against Chaos (Malleus), Xenos (Xenos) and Heresy (Hereticus). When was the last time you read about Ordo Hereticus dealing with box standard religious divergees and rebellions. When was the last time their military wing, The Sisters Of Battle, fought a box standard human heretics of non chaos variety? Fucking never.
@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593
Жыл бұрын
We actually do hear about them quite a lot actually you probably don't remember them because they're mentioned in either the origin story of certain vehicles (the land raider redemeer) or in small snippets to make a sub-faction look good (pretty much all of the officio assassinorum assassins). basically they exist they're just footholds soo small it's useless bringing them up unless they're involved with a vehicle or imperial organization and if they are it always involve with the former getting stomped
@seekerofalice9787
7 ай бұрын
I mean, not for nothing, but Heresy is kind of a nothing issue unless Chaos is involved. Most uprisings are handled by the local PDF or the Guard depending on how severe the threat is (The first Cain book is about an uprising about to start because of friendly relationships with the Tau, yeah it turns out there was a bigger conspiracy at hand, but on the surface it was an ordinary potential rebellion.) I imagine the same is true with Heretical cults. Most of the time, the local ecclesiarchy finds out about the issue and the planetary governor sends in the PDF, or the cult still praises the Emperor so they let it slide so long as it isn't disruptive. If Chaos pops up though, yeah, the Ordos are going to be looking into even a hint of that, because it can escalate out of control very quickly where someone believing in the idea of the Star Child vs standard Dogma isn't really going to warrant wasting an inquisitors time. They deal with the big problems, not the small fry.
@Beriorn
Жыл бұрын
The Slaves To Darkness abbreviate into STD, which is extremely unfortunate even though the name itself dates back to 3rd edition Fantasy/1st edition 40k back in the late 80s. Also, Archaon can see into the future with that third eye he has on his helmet called the Ed of Sheeran or something. Having a thing on your forehead hat lets you see the future and avoid injury legally qualifies him as a JoJo reference.
@amwoodco3049
Жыл бұрын
Pfffbt. Jojo's referencing him.
@CrusadiaIX
11 ай бұрын
It’s fairly common among AoS fans to type it as S2D, largely because… yeah
@freshboy3968
4 ай бұрын
Epiteph, huh...
@lucaballarati9694
Жыл бұрын
Pancreasnowork once again shows himself to be a man of refined tastes. I would only contend that "Universe on fire would be a better contender for the Slaves to Darkness' theme song"
@alextruecustodian6174
Жыл бұрын
Both based for em tbh
@Expeor7970
Жыл бұрын
To me the appeal of the WoC/StD is the fantasy of powergaming, in any other army your special character is likely to die a miserable death, even the space marines who are already super special from the get go can really only hope to become chapter masters of their own group. With these guys however your special character don't steal can go from a simple marauder with nothing to becoming the demi god that is a daemon prince. Maybe it's because of WoC rework in Total War but I now find them interesting as a faction.
@Rukdug
Жыл бұрын
There's a reason that (as far as I can tell) the Path to Glory rules for making your own narrative initially started with Chaos forces. It just works to have your small raider warband eventually become a massive host through victories and quests in the name of the dark gods.
@whitlocktherevanchist5236
Жыл бұрын
Your mention of the traitor primarchs turning because of the webway project mystery reminded me of an argument I had once. This guy was furious, unreasonably so, that anyone defend the emperor for not telling the primarchs why he went back to Terra. I was like, "dude, he gave horus the greatest honor anyone in the imperium had ever received by making him the warmaster. He trusted him to appreciate the honor for what it was, a recognition of horus' abilities and achievements! It is not the emperors fault that he had 9 kids who were such bitter CHILDREN that they couldn't handle daddy going back to the house and trusting them to run the business for a few years while he restored his sweet new ride.". For some reason, that point made him even more angry. I thought it was pretty clever
@seekerofalice9787
7 ай бұрын
The worst part is that Horus pretty well did understand that and even states that he pretty well knows that the Emperor is working on something related to mastering the Warp. The reason he turns to Chaos is because he gets stabbed by the anti-Horus knife, then gets visions of 40K in the warp where the Loyalists are revered and he is nowhere to be seen. Even when he acknowledges that this vision is a load of BS to Magnus he still gives in to chaos for reasons. His turn is so weird because in the book, he clearly knows that he is being told bullshit, and seems pretty chill and logical about the whole thing, but when he wakes up he becomes a raging asshole for no reason and is willing to betray the imperium for no reason so far as I can tell. He gives reasons, but since he flat out rejected those reasons earlier the whole thing comes across as profoundly stupid.
@kaisercommodus4977
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Chaos. The answer to the age-old question "how can i transport the most skulls on my body". a creature of taste naturally just raises them from the dead so that they transport themselves, but what can you expect from people that see chaos spawns as a promotion
@TheDeathwing5
Жыл бұрын
Technically if you wanted vikings in AoS, you can write a viking tribe for your Chaos faction.
@jomar_sl
Жыл бұрын
Or, if you don't need them to be human, Ogor Mawtribes.
@ce4879
Жыл бұрын
And Fyreslayers if you want Norse Fire Titan worshippers for your Vikings with dragons that aren’t just your ship figure heads.
@giacomoromano8842
Жыл бұрын
So Pancreas, any chance for a Cities of Sigmar Do or Don't? I know they are very recent in terms of faction and that they were, more than anything, just created to glue and smash together all the leftovers from warhammer fantasy, but i believe they are truly coming in as their own in terms of lore. Also, a new battletome is arriving in a matter of months and it promises massive changes.
@expanddongerydoo34
Жыл бұрын
I think he should wait until battletome and model refresh release before making that video.
@samiamtheman7379
Жыл бұрын
I can tell one of the Tabletop downsides would be the more outdated models that got ported from Old World, even the pictures on the website showing the old square bases (dunno if they ship like that though). Hell, one of the models is literally just Karl Franz, but with a round base instead of a square one.
@giacomoromano8842
Жыл бұрын
@@samiamtheman7379 also the fact that the army translated horribly from second to third edition. It was an army based on hordes of troops with varying quality and that relied on multiple +1 stacks on all their stats to be functional. Third edition literally capped both of those things, 3/5 of the tome units are literally unusable.
@hangebza6625
Жыл бұрын
In WFB I really liked the background for Kurgan and Hung being basicly chaos Huns/Tartars/Mongolians. Too bad they never saw unique models despite being the most numerous cultures following chaos. Seeing hordes of hellish horsemem going Attila on the Empire would have been awesome.
@amusician644
Жыл бұрын
About that bit with 40k chaos inviting themselves over that picture of chaos rising perfectly fits this. Literal story is about chaos inviting themselves over after the bugs got squashed and the magpies weakened.
@crazyscotsman9327
Жыл бұрын
Blood for the blood god! Wait wrong army.
@CarbonMage
Жыл бұрын
Well, you're a quarter right 😜
@GameAnGrog
Жыл бұрын
The chorus of The Unicorn Invasion of Dundee by GloryHammer would be perfect for the Slaves to Darkness if not for the name of the song.
@ninnoofthelastunicorn2693
Жыл бұрын
What kills me about chaos is how inflexible they've become in their evil. I know that sounds like an odd complaint but I'm still one of those people who like to remind others how there's positives to each chaos gods and cry and cry and cry
@elmine7707
Жыл бұрын
I like to think that the positives are just the vestiges of whatever nobility the follower originally had, only being tacked onto the god due to coping and seething
@alextruecustodian6174
Жыл бұрын
I mean it is canon that many cultures worship the chaos gods unknowingly, ya just need to get a little creative with them Slaves to Darkness Army concept: A Order of Knights that worship the four Great Ones: Khrox, lord of Honour Courage and Battle, Slarh, Goddess of emotions, Norg master of life & death and Tzeer God of Cunning and Hope They protect the citizens and their empire, prioritizing kindness and loyalty. Admirable traits in any faction even though they indirectly feed Evil Gods, empower them and grant them a foothold in their realm. Gives an air of tragedy to otherwise 100% heroic faction that is pretty unique imo AoS is extremely flexible with homebrewing "your dudes" honestly
@geeljire9247
Жыл бұрын
I used to think like you, but then i like the edge sometimes.
@generalsmite7167
Жыл бұрын
I just thought about it and literally the only chaos primarchs who did not turn traitor because of daddy issues was Alpharius and Fulgrim. And Fulgrim still has daddy issues
@shaggy5percent
Жыл бұрын
As a fellow t1 diabetic, your jokes make me laugh every time.
@Prattical
11 ай бұрын
Damn though. Master Chief with daddy issues is scary
@evanvalenta1898
Жыл бұрын
>Chaos Marines suck You tell 'em Sonny Jim >Elf simpery This one's goin' into the Book of Grudges
@taOGrimace
11 ай бұрын
Slaves to darkness implies that there is an Interns to darkness.
@thehermitthetower1126
10 ай бұрын
I really dig this channel. Top tier work Mr.Pancreas.
@milanmarkovic2721
Жыл бұрын
Don't firget that you can have your Chaos Lord be a evil bug muscle woman and have people simp for her.
@riokollivier
Жыл бұрын
Pancreas, AoS has its own version of Norsca, a frozen wasteland filled with barbarian tribes fighting each other to prove themselves, but Sigmar owns it. Hamilcar Bear-Eater comes from there.
@alanwake5239
Жыл бұрын
Additional tabletop downside, the chaos knights kit is push fit and also covered in spikes. This means it's painful to assemble and also broken up into bizarrely shaped, easily breakable pieces. Just go look at the sprue it's a mess
@timothy2c
9 ай бұрын
I grew up in the frozen tundra of northern Canada and lost all the feeling to the tips of my fingers due to frostbite. Therefore I’m also immune to plastic spiky bits, but I’m not exactly going to become a hand model anytime soon.
@matthewyeldig4608
Жыл бұрын
"Perhaps the winner of this setting might just be the greenist of them all." Wutta drem dat iz...
@newmemphisminis
Жыл бұрын
Evil for the sake of evil is always so much more fun. Plus it allows the heroes to go full chaotic good and kill, maim and electrocute the baddies with no moral ambiguity.
@millburray6676
11 ай бұрын
Their line revamp is what singlehandedly got me into AoS
@meinraddreizacker5845
Жыл бұрын
Next “Do Or Don’t” should be either Dark Elves from WHFB or Vampire Counts/Coast
@matthewyeldig4608
Жыл бұрын
24:38 I felt this on a personal level... The struggle was, is, and will likely be, too real!
@pdthepowerdragon5412
Жыл бұрын
The virgin Perterabo vs The Chad Archaon
@fairyqueentitania5080
Жыл бұрын
Finally a premiere when i have the day off 🎉
@DJTM
Жыл бұрын
Hearing Pancreas talk about finger sticks reminded me of an Irish guy who said his favorite day of the week was when his mom took his needles to the hospital for sharpening.
@cynicgamer12
Жыл бұрын
I know full well the pain of assembling chaos models lacerating my fingers. I’ve just come to accept it and pray to Nurgle the scabs form quickly.
@drpretzel2086
Жыл бұрын
The new chaos knights putting those together makes me want to sell my soul to whatever dark powers will assemble them for me. Slaves to darkness you are a snuggle with a struggle
@sssuperslayer25
Жыл бұрын
I love hearing you talk about fantasy and aos, especially armies. Once the new cities of sigmar updates come out could you do a video on them?
@reservedcheese
Жыл бұрын
One more thing for your hurt rant. As an astartes abbadon probably has a cgm reader and pump built in. Also paint drukhari. They’re fiddly elves and spikey enough to show when your fingers heal from the lancet strikes
@toheekang174
Жыл бұрын
In WH40K: 1:NOOOOO THE EMPEROR HAVE BETRAYED US 2:SCREW IT, LET GIVE OUR SOUL TO THE DARK GODS In WHF/AOS: 1:Hey, I think the Dark Gods find it goofy when we burn down the children hospital 2:Yes
@dominicmanester8125
Жыл бұрын
To those truly touched by Nurgle, his love is genuine. It might be horrifying to a non-chaos aligned mortal but he does mostly make his followers happy and uses his power to shield them from the horrors and suffering of the mortal world.
@lucaballarati9694
Жыл бұрын
The guy using your gut to farm E. Coli isn't nice just because he keeps you hopped up on morphine
@Krood-j7n
Жыл бұрын
Cope harder
@ianbyrne465
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, he takes away the pain that he himself caused them, and that will brutalize them the moment their connection with him is ever severed. What a swell guy that Nurgle is!
@dominicmanester8125
Жыл бұрын
@@ianbyrne465 His mind isn't supposed to work like ours. He sees a myriad of gifts, blessing mortals with new life that sprouts from their flesh like it were his own garden and eventually returning them to the earth to begin the cycle again. He is genuinely confused when mortals don't rejoice at the bounty of blessings Nurgle brings for them. When you accept Nurgle, your mortal mind breaks and you start to perceive things as Nurgle, his demons and his followers do. Perhaps that perception is distorted or perhaps you are seeing things as they truly are.
@amwoodco3049
Жыл бұрын
The problem with claiming that Nurgle loves you is that he loves the bacteria festering in the pustule where your liver should be as much as he loves you. That is, each bacteria as much as you. Yup, you mean as much to him as a germ. Don't believe me? Too bad. That's the Warhammer Fantasy lore on Nurgle. Heck, his Great Unclean ones regularly eat Nurglings, which Nurgle supposedly loves. So him loving you doesn't amount to much.
@Johnaii_Steck
Жыл бұрын
PancreasNoWork is a based Gloryhammer enjoyer as well? This channel keeps getting better I'm glad I stuck around.
@WaifuDaki
Жыл бұрын
Slaves to Darkness is also a sick Bolt Thrower album
@onyx9935
Жыл бұрын
Can you make a do or don’t on tempestus scions? They’re one of my favorite groups in the game because they’re basically warhammer ODSTs
@chickenborn7697
Жыл бұрын
I have a wonderful Slaves to Darkness army. They are themed as Knights in shining armor. (I removed most the spiky bits and sanded the helmets into nice, smooth versions. Painted with shining metals and royal blue colors. These are the older models.) With a horrifying secret of course! They are still Slaves to Darkness after all. For this reason, I actually much prefer the older versions of Chaos Warriors. Much easier to build into a uniform Legion of sorts.
@ChaseDaOrk3767
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see what your models look like. Also I've had an idea for a faction for my own setting concept, basically it's an Empire that had been corrupted by demonic lovecraftian horrors for a very long time, because of this this "Dark Empire" has become fully corrupted by evil and now seeks to bring doom and ruin to the entire world in the name of their dark Lord(s). They're basically what you get if the Alliance from World of Warcraft had been corrupted by the Chaos Gods from Warhammer and they are on a dark Crusade to rid the whole of heretics, unbelievers, &and everyone else who opposes them and their dark masters
@shooey-mcmoss
7 ай бұрын
which secret? Simping for Slaani and chasing that unattinable phantom of perfection? wait why does that sound like idealogy of Empress of Light-
@x0lopossum
5 ай бұрын
6:20 LMAO 🤣 you kilt the Chaos Space Marines
@chrisroberts7000
Жыл бұрын
PancreasNoWork: "I'm with Khorne..." Let him never forget the moment he sided with the Blood God.
@Gitsy18
9 ай бұрын
Love your videos Pancreas! Keep up the good work, you've a great voice for narration. Thanks to this video specifically, it got me to convert to a Slaves to Darkness army for AoS. No regrets!
@Hy93Ri0n
Жыл бұрын
>where it was only the bad guys who had power armor But PancreasNoWork-Sama, everyone is the bad guys in Warhammer
@scaryraptor5168
6 ай бұрын
WE! ARE THE MASTERS OF THE GALAXY! We’re the lords of space Dundee! The destroyers of reality, on a quest for all eternity!!!! What a shoutout, LOVE IT HERE
@lukeamparo6586
Жыл бұрын
Is Cathay in Age of Sigmar? Would’ve wanted to see more of them.
@mattvoll9094
Жыл бұрын
Sadly i don't think they are there is some asian inspired vampire warband though
@gudboah4688
Жыл бұрын
We might see them as a supplement to cities of Sigmar once they come out in TOW.
@hoshi314
Жыл бұрын
nope for now, might be revived as "not Cathay in name" in the future but for now the giant rats had a hand in their destruction
@dx3217
Жыл бұрын
not as of the moment maybe in the future. Albeit Cathay did manage to escape via boats due to the ongoing overrun of orcs in the main land and japan or nippon in fantasy... AND THEN THE WORLD EXPLODED so um... wait and hope the dragon emperor pulled magic out of the void to save everyone?
@cthulhubecausewhynot1182
9 ай бұрын
They were barely in Fantasy.
@thomaswetzel6796
Жыл бұрын
I’d like to say when your universe causes the Skaven to leave in horror like 40k did then abandon all hope ye who enter here
@t_hetty1758
Жыл бұрын
Now I want a great horned rat slaves of darkness faction. Just giant knights in rat themed armor.
@matthewmiller257
Жыл бұрын
Poor Horned Rat wanting to be part of the Gods of Chaos club but even Nurgle thinks he smell-stink too bad to join.
@thechazz3230
Жыл бұрын
"Over in 40k at least one writer said chaos winning isn't a matter of if but when." That sounds like the words of a certain Daddyissues-Bowden downplaying anyone whos not his butt buddy Abaddon again.
@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593
Жыл бұрын
You do know it's the same thing for fantasy right? Ever heard of storm of chaos?
@lukemadison4550
Жыл бұрын
All of my chosen made me bleed building them so naturally they all worship khorne in my army. I play space marines in 40K so it’s nice having a faction where I can like you said just go “IM EVIL AND ITS FUN (proceeds to violence you)”
@ravendelacour1917
5 ай бұрын
"Blood for the Blood God!" *pricks finger with lancet*
@Gnomkiller2000
Жыл бұрын
You deserve the like for the whole vid but the last couple of seconds just made it worth it so much more
@calumgibson8974
9 ай бұрын
Honestly, this was a VERY good explanation as to what it's like to use this faction. I am new to warhammer AOS and I am certainly looking at collecting the slaves to darkness. This video has definitely helped make my decision :)
@chazaqiel2319
4 ай бұрын
My favourite part about the Slaves to Darkness compared to the Chaos Space Marines is that all of them, each and every single one of them, is ultimately just some guy. In 40k, regular people basically don't matter in the eyes of Chaos. They only care about strength, and you're not beating a Space Marine in that regard. While you theoretically could incur favor and gradually build your way up to daemonhood, good luck catching Khorne's attention with your noodly arms while an average space marine can pop a dude's skull with their bare hands. But for the Slaves to Darkness, the Path to Glory is truly equal. Even the strongest Chaos Warrior started at the bottom. Archaon himself was just a random guy at some point. It makes for a much more compelling narrative than "I was made into an Astartes, so eat shit and get back to coping, mortal, the Chaos Gods are never gonna give a shit about you"
@discountplaguedoctor88
Жыл бұрын
Great outro there, 10/10!
@spaceemperorspar4791
Жыл бұрын
24:40 I relate to this so hard as someone with kidney failure. Feeling in my arm? What’s that?
@Octopugilist
Жыл бұрын
Fritz Murderson the Slave-Breaker: Hey Hans? Hans Horseraper, Scourge of the Broken: Yes Fritz? Fritz Murderson the Slave-Breaker: Are we the baddies? Hans Horseraper, Scourge of the Broken: Nah.
@HoodieProduction
Жыл бұрын
In 40k you have good guys in power armor vs bad guys in spikey power armor. In end times fantasy you have buy guys in magical spikey power armor vs line infantry, steam punk war machines, and good ole black powder firepower.
@TheTdroid
Жыл бұрын
The biggest loss of AoS is indeed that the Warriors of Chaos are no longer vikings in demonic power armor rocking a heavy metal soundtrack
@zarthes
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but imagine, Viking themed Stormcasts, akin to the old tribes Sigmar himself came from. It’s a good thing imo that the ‘they are all Vikings’ is gone is that they can now potentially be on the good guys.
@TheTdroid
Жыл бұрын
@@zarthes I'll wait on that potential being actualized before getting my hopes up
@ianmontecillo1493
Жыл бұрын
Xeelee sequence video when? You use 1d4chan so I know you know about the xeelee sequence
@robkemp598
Жыл бұрын
Hell yes
@thecuriousanthropologist
Жыл бұрын
You win an Internet for the Gloryhammer reference. You are indeed a man of taste.
@the_bubble1036
Жыл бұрын
Lmao the old school diabetic rant was 10/10 good stuff mr pancreas 👍🏼 thank you for the chuckles as always
@sqocks8254
Жыл бұрын
_Well that is quite the thumbnail!_
@gervasiomartins9148
9 ай бұрын
Loving this. I'm brand new to both 40k and your channel and, even with your bias, I think I'm gravitating to chaos. I am watching other channels, but yours is the most fun, and I would love if you did more chaos faction videos. Keep up the good and fun work. Boobs for the boob god!
@golgor321
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the real fucking Legion.
@grizzygoblin-g8t
Жыл бұрын
0:43 had you heard of the slaves to darkness. I thought not. It's not a story the lore masters would tell you. It's a neckbeard legend.
@Tenhys
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, regarding the comparison between the Primarchs fall to chaos and the fantasy Chaos Warriors... it's actually the same thing. More often than not, both felt betrayed by the one they had/should look up to the most and Chaos was there to fill the void. It's honestly disingenuous to claim that _"half of the Primarch betrayed the Imperium to daddy issue"_ when the likes of Archaeon betrayed Humanity due to the same thing (you have to remember that "Gods" are often reffered to as "Mother" or "Father" to their worshippers.) And sometimes, said betrayal really credibilize (if not justify) said fall to Chaos. Take Angron, for example - the archetype of the Primarch fallen from grace. Originally, the guy was arguably the best Primarch there was : he got implanted against his will with cybernetics in his brain (as an INFANT) to boost his aggressivity so as to fight better as a gladiator, all for the sick pleasure of an absolutely vile and repulsive tyrannical ruler that enjoyed reducing humans to the state of animals to satisfy his own degenerated tendencies. Despite the implant (called "the butcher's nail" - lovely name, btw) and the constant abused he and his fellow gladiators faced, he held his sanity fast, organised a rebellion, broke himself and his fellow gladiators free from their imprisonment and, despite being constantly on the run from the mad tyrant, fought ferociously for their freedom at every turn - Angron never skipping a beat in the fight, no matter how gruesome. Basically, at that point, the gladiators were seeing Angron as a mentor, savior, champion of freedom against tyranny - both physical and mental (being afflicted by the butcher's nail as well.) And Angron himself saw his fellow gladiators, "mere humans" all, as his very own brothers and sisters - his family. Then he and his family of gladiators got finally caught and cornered like rat by the mad Tyrant. They were outnumbered Ork styles in terms of odds; there was not a single chance to survive the day. Simply impossible. Then Big E arrived. Find Angron. Realize the precarity of the situation and essentially tells his son that he was going to exfiltrate him from certain death... but also leaving the gladiators behind doing so. Angron said "no." He would rather die alongside his fellow gladiators than leaving them to die on their own. Big E didn't understand nor accepted that ; flat out proceeded to teleport Angron anyway. No fucks given. The gladiators saw their champion and savior leaving them at the eleventh hour. Fell into absolute despaired and got butchered like animals. Mind you, Big E _MADE_ the Primarch to ultimately stand for mankind, against whatever came to destroy it. Originally THAT was their quintessencial purpose : to stand and fight for the survival of mankind, to their dying breath. Angron did that and more : he was factually accomplishing the purpose the Emperor designed him to fulfill. Then, just like that, Big E ripped it away from him in the most painful way conceivable. In essence, by that act, by taking Angron away from his fellow human brothers and sisters gladiators, the Emperor TURNED Angron into a traitor to them and his very purpose ! Then you wonder why he lost his shit and went to Khorne ?! I don't ! #### Now compare that to Archeaon : a devot priest of Sigmar that dedicated his life to his divinity (a mortal that ascended to Godhood. Sound familiar ?) only to learn at a critical time that he was the child of a rape with a Chaos worshipping warriors as a father. Falling into despair he prayed to Sigmar to answer his call, begging for an answer, a repreive to his nefarious origins and got dead silence in return. Despair turning into anger, he renounced his faith and turned to Chaos, eventually becoming the Everchosen. Did Sigmar fucked up into not answering, though ? Actually no : the hammer god boi was stuck into an ethereal prison by some Tzeentchian shenanigan for essentially millenars. It's only once the End times screw things up so badly to unstuck him from this predicament that he could finally show himself. #### The point is this : in Fantasy, turning to Chaos doesn't necessarily requires convoluted reason or plot : convert to Chaos, sell your souls, gain power and fuck shit up. Simple as. In 40k however, it's somewhat more subtle : event made people gradually turn traitors without themselves even noticing it. It's far more insidious and, more often than not, higher degrees of magnitudes more tragic. Because when in fantasy it can be a simple matter of _"alright, i'm done : i'm fucking shit up now."_ and not giving a fuck about anything (really). But in 40k it's generally the reverse : no one really fall to chaos outright - even opposing it at first glance - and then are gradually made to change their stance as time and events play their course (see Magnus.) Just saying "they got daddy issue" is really reductive and dishonest, in my humble opinion.
@Krood-j7n
Жыл бұрын
This. I hate that people boil the horus heresy to daddy issue it's dishonest at best or lies at worse, like people saying that it's daddy issues is pretty much them saying that 40k is not good and have have the story writing of my little pony I like this youtuber but he really shits on 40k every opportunity he gets makes me wonder does he actually likes 40k if it's not about the eldar
@thegamersconclave8709
9 ай бұрын
It seems that Evil is very subjective in Age of Sigmar. As in, I'm now going to subject you to my EVIL!!!
@ValtroileIzolda
Жыл бұрын
My favorite faction. Age of Sigmar did an awesome job of expanding the concept. Warcry and Underworlds chaos warbands are a prime example. Varanguard are an absolute win. Read Scourge of Fate, I recommend it to every chaos fan out there. Im an Archaon fanboy, not gonna lie. Abbadon is cool too, I just prefer fantasy to spaceships.
@MrDarthtelos
Жыл бұрын
Look at it this way pancreas: You could’ve died.
@Parasil
Ай бұрын
Warhammer 40k: no bretonnia, still around AoS: no bretonnia, still around Warhammer fantasy:
@darthsphincter909
5 ай бұрын
Chaos Lord on Chaos Dragon is the biggest baddest guy around in The Old World too.
@hellsambassador666
10 ай бұрын
I'm working on a STD army right now, and everyone tells me they are so slow. Compared to my skeleton based SBGL army, they're basically a Formula 1 car, and they can take a hit. I'm hype.
@TRETHEGAMERMAN
Жыл бұрын
Hope you do the seraphon/lizardmen video in the future
@trashynecromancer1155
Жыл бұрын
I had the prick and pen for like 4 years after i was diagnosed (got diagnosed really REALLY late). It's not nearly as long as you suffered, but I know the pain brother.
@Pum-kun
7 ай бұрын
Okay that diabetes bit got me. BUT to defend myself, i only got the dexcom on year 4 of 8 so i gave Khorne his fill
@isuckatusernames4297
Жыл бұрын
holy shit, I did not expect a gloryhammer reference. that's pretty neat of you.
@Mr.Mc_Stab13y
10 ай бұрын
question: will kholek suneater be getting a video since he wasn't mentioned here (im not sure what faction he is counted among but since he was fighting with chaos in the endtimes i imagine he fights alongside these guys im not knowledgable on the setting)
@BigMansG
Жыл бұрын
Eeerm acthcually the Scions of the Flame also have ranged attacks. Alongside some other warcry warbands. Speaking of they're not that expensive either points-vise and can do some rather fun stuff such as the crow ones having deepstrike, wish you had gone a bit deeper into them in the video.
@frederickflores8152
9 ай бұрын
I love slaves to darkness. My original army I started just as the end times kicked off. They were the first warhammer models/faction I ever saw back in around '97 and fell in love with the look
@comediccomrade5716
2 ай бұрын
To quote Archaon in TWH-“I am the warhammer incarnate!”
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