Let people watch. We all know this. But maybe they find the speaker they like.
@fanfanarchtop6689
Жыл бұрын
sucessful title sucessful comment😂
@stephanfuchs7891
Жыл бұрын
😂
@fasteddievh2072
Жыл бұрын
💯🎯
@adamscottv
Жыл бұрын
Surprised how much I like that Jensen. It's got a vibe ... hard to describe in words ... just sounds beautiful. Great video.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
6 ай бұрын
Very Hendrix with a bit of Snoopy "Joe Cool".
@CraigFlowersMusic
Жыл бұрын
Jensen hands down. Sweetest cleans by a mile. Dirty I could go for any of them eckspecially the v30 but still favor the Jensen most for dirty too. The hempback was surprisingly good. Still I can't believe how much more I liked the Jensen than anything else. WAY more.
@clearcoat
Жыл бұрын
I agree, but I bet a Jensen P10R-F would sound even better. I tried a bunch of speakers in a Brownface Princeton, including a C12N and the P10R-F (with a baffle adapter) was the winner for me. Less massive low end and sweeter overall. Sounds great at low volume too.
@noAPlease
Жыл бұрын
Swapping the vintage 30 for a greenback in my 1x12 closed back cab made all the difference! Zilla cabs does some really great sound comparison videos to help decide!
@jvannatt
Жыл бұрын
I have a greenback and mine as well. Love the sound of the greenback
@vincentl.9469
Жыл бұрын
@@jvannatt the worst thing is when they place tubes too close to a speaker magnet. No good for either. Also with modelling amps, I think it might be best to stick with stock speakers ?
@steveeckert8396
Жыл бұрын
@@vincentl.9469 Did you see the Katana video? The stock speaker sounded the best. Lee liked the Jensen the best in this video.
@vincentl.9469
Жыл бұрын
@@steveeckert8396 I think quite often the differences are very slight
@picksalot1
Жыл бұрын
Speakers make a big difference, as do the Mics and their location. The Amp (head), Guitar, Wood, Pickups, Pots, Caps, etc. make less difference. In a Modeler, swapping Speakers and Mics makes it easy to find the sound that makes the rest of the gear in the signal chain sound good.
@jhon5235
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, it's what matters the most, specially old speakers
@j.r.g3548
Жыл бұрын
only because they're broken in. Almost every speaker manufacturer accounts for that in new speakers today. The "old speakers are better" myth hasn't been a thing since the 90s.
@otaviosmartins1
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@BarefacedAudio
Жыл бұрын
@@j.r.g3548 break-in is an interesting thing with guitar speakers - I’m thinking we should get three identical drivers, test them briefly to make sure they do sound identical, and then put one through a normal break-in process (so the surround is loosened up like on a speaker that’s a few gigs old) and put another through a much more intense process to simulate an old speaker, and then compare the three. I’m v curious!
@JimijaymesProductions
Жыл бұрын
@@j.r.g3548 Better is subjective, but hell they are different. A lot of it is wear, some of it is inconsistency just take the v30 its not even that old and so many of them sound different. All the different cone manufacturers made a huge difference.
@AnimalJohn85
Жыл бұрын
The creambacks are still my favourite, lovely sounding things and just get better with every vid I see.
@bison962
Жыл бұрын
The jensen speaker is just perfect for these applications. Classic lead and v30 are also cool
@toledo2983
Жыл бұрын
The Jensen i liked most.
@TroyNaumu808
Жыл бұрын
Jensen has the classic sound. Old school is the best school.
@bradc32
Жыл бұрын
i like the jenson too
@toledo2983
Жыл бұрын
@@bradc32 i use jensen and celestion, and some other brands and i have 1 eminence for special reason. All i can say, the celestions are more of the one-trick-pony than the jensen, my most flexible speakers are the fender special design (no eminence, must be some chinese cheapies.)
@christophersmart8067
Жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison guys!! All the Celestion had their own flavor but honestly the Jensen is just a flavor you can love and work with forever. It just sounds right and can be eq’d to work in any mix. Jensen is like the ns-10 in studio flat and translates
@ulfdanielsen6009
Жыл бұрын
NS-10s are anything but flat but have a distinct mid range hump,- like a treble booster for speakers,- that´s why they are good for producing vocals,- but don´t ever do the final mix on them.
@ignacioibanez6138
Жыл бұрын
They also have the NS-10 sterile sound indeed, those speakers sound horrible for listen music, but are meant to be for mix and mastering, but guitar land is another story, I would never put a guitar neither instruments on the yamahas
@slidecatch
Жыл бұрын
I liked the Jensen the most. It seemed the most versatile. Then again with my hearing loss I may not be picking up the treble issue. The Vintage 30 would be my favorite among the Celestions. Thanks for the video!
@themomentkiller9167
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a Princeton with a Jensen ck12 in it for two years now. The first year I spent scratching my head thinking it could be better and spending far too much time researching this rabbit hole. In the the end, I couldn’t make a decision so I kept it. People have commented on how good it sounds and besides, if I get a new speaker, I have to wait until it’s worn in until I can properly compare the two and by then I can’t remember how the original sounded and sod it. The original is more than good enough!
@jonbourn473
Жыл бұрын
I thought the Jenson by itself sounded the best of all. But I think Pete is right, the Celestions are better for band settings because of the midrange. I liked the creamback for cleans and V30 for distortion. I prefer v30s overall. Great vid as usual.
@adamwatson6916
11 ай бұрын
V30s paired with Creamback M65s is the best drive tone ever.
@jano3289
11 ай бұрын
Depends what kind of band it is. Are you playing in a lour rockband yes. Are you playing in a jazztrio I'd get the jensen.
@cortmiller
Жыл бұрын
I have been putting celestion speakers in my fender amps for years. I have always thought they were a match made in heaven. I’m a big fan of the G12H30 especially in the 55hz variety in them
@GCKelloch
Жыл бұрын
The G12H30-55Hz has a very strong peak right in the most harsh 3-3.5kHz range. The Weber Ceramic 1230-55 with the cloth surround is considerably less harsh, but still has an open high end. You can choose the power and some other options. I think the 100W has an Aluminum voice coil that makes it sound like the 30W. It's a very flat speaker out to 5.5kHz, and rolls off gently from there. The wider voice coil Weber California is also a great Fender amp speaker with tight deep bass, fast mids, and just a little more in the harsh range. Both also come in expensive AlNiCo versions. I'd go with AlNiCo for the California. You might prefer the Ceramic1230-55. It's really nice.
@RG-yz8ov
Жыл бұрын
Celestion g12h30 55hz mixed with a Celestion alnico blue 2x12 👌
@Tuning_Spork
Жыл бұрын
The Celestion Vintage 30 stood out to me on all loops. I'll take two. ✌😃
@Alexander-iq5yq
Жыл бұрын
I liked the stock Jensen overall the most, particularly for clean.
@noonsound4894
Жыл бұрын
I was also going to comment on how well it did. It's a good sound overall I thought. As you say particularly for that nice Fender clean sound.
@dancrowe7860
Жыл бұрын
Yes! The Jensen sounds like what a small combo should do. I was surprised, though, at how close the Classic Lead 80 got to the clean sound. I think the Celestions had more clarity, but I preferred the "low-fi" of the Jensen better.
@jsauce311
Жыл бұрын
The cleans are great but they can't handle any overdrive. Had to trade my Princeton out for a special edition with a creamback to stabalize things. Made a huge difference
@CrazyCalabrese78
Жыл бұрын
@@jsauce311 am thinking I may need to try a creamback in my blues junior. Beautiful cleans but not great with overdrive (from the amp or pedals). Which version are you using in your new Princeton?
@mikethadeeter
5 ай бұрын
It’s almost like fender did some experimentation on what speaker sounded the best.
@recordatron
Жыл бұрын
I've discovered recently that speakers are arguably the part of your setup which will make the most significant difference to your sound. More so than pickups, like for like different guitars or even pedals. They're not the sexiest or even visible part of the rig though so I think people tend to overlook them in favour of other products.
@lusario2650
Жыл бұрын
Fully agree
@saintghost
7 ай бұрын
and tubes
@RatzaChewy
Жыл бұрын
Creamback all the way for me. Chiming cleans and clear overdrive. I can see why the V30 is so popular for hard-rock and metal though, there's a bite to the upper-mids when dirty that would cut through really well in a mix or on stage.
@mike42356
Жыл бұрын
Finally THE comparison between the C12N and the A-Type! Thanks guys!
@raydowley1038
Жыл бұрын
if the Greenback is a tight fit the plastic magnet cover is only for cosmetic reasons and can be removed with some effort it's held on with some very good double-sided tape. I had this problem on the Marshall Bassbreaker 15w amp got in touch with celestion and they gave me the ok to remove the plastic cover.
@franktriggs
Жыл бұрын
I wish Peavey sold their speakers separately. Years ago, I had a Peavey Classic 2x12 with 2x 35 watt Scorpion speakers. When I plugged my 100 watt Marshall into the Peavey speakers it transformed the tone for the better, compared to the greenbacks I had. Sweeter top end, tighter bottom end, midrange had lovely vocal quality. Got a really sweet high harmonic bleed through on bends. Gorgeous.
@DBroce
Жыл бұрын
My Twin Reverb with Jensen’s is the greatest sounding amp I own, and I own more than one.
@waitin4winter
Жыл бұрын
2 decades ago I had the Line 6 red bean. I noticed that the speaker/cab options made more of a difference on the tone than did the amp selections. I.e. amp A and amp B sounded more alike with the same cab selection while the same amp with different speaker/cab sims sounded way different. I asked around about it, but at that time a lot of people weren’t really hip to it. Now we know better.
@truthserum9157
Жыл бұрын
Over 45 years I’ve tried everything, American and British speakers in different configuration cabinets, I believe the Celestine Gold are the best sounding speakers I’ve ever heard, crisp chime to creamy crunch, it’s rich and complex it’s among the most expensive they make but worth it.
@georgefromgreece4119
Жыл бұрын
Agreed,the Alnico Cream is even better!
@RG-yz8ov
Жыл бұрын
Yep +1 for the alnico cream. Best speaker, can do everything, it's blue flavoured but better and more power handling.
@georgefromgreece4119
Жыл бұрын
@@RG-yz8ov exactly
@caileanhunt8679
Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video chaps. I really liked the Jensen it's tough to beat for Fender clean tones.
@davidpask4232
Жыл бұрын
Managed to get a Celestion Blue Back in my Fender Blues Junior Tweed, its tricky but can be done, sounds awesome.
@jaredlowry3547
Жыл бұрын
Speakers make more difference than actual amps, IMO. 3 different amps going through the same cab sounds more similar to me than 1 amp going through 3 different cabs.
@niclastname
Жыл бұрын
I had never heard of nor heard the Hempback before, but I think it might be my favorite here. To my ear, it seems to be the most crisp and clear while retaining the low end and not sounding too harsh in the top end.
@TexanUSMC8089
Жыл бұрын
It sounded smooth. I'd like to hear one in person.
@Tomtamo1
Жыл бұрын
My two go to speakers for Fender, Marshall or Vox are Greenbacks and/or V-Types. They just work for me, especially when blended.
@joeldowdy404
Жыл бұрын
Celestion Cream back!! Those are in the Fender Tone Master Blond Deluxe and I have really liked that speaker. (Warm with mid/bass tone). Its completely different than the Eminence Tone King 33 in my Tone King which I also love as well for different reasons (brighter and cleaner).
@tonepoet
Жыл бұрын
This! I did a Fromel mod on a Fender HRD and the Celestion Creamback and it is just incredible. I get warmer, thicker, and rounder vibe out of a noiseless pickup Tele than my buddy does with a PRS and stock Fender amp.
@hawedehre
Жыл бұрын
In the Tone Master there is probably the Creamback Neo in it. I have both, one Marshall flavoured in my Astoria cab and I put the Neo version into the bass breaker cabinet. I am pleased with both of them.
@lazvt8469
Жыл бұрын
Funny...I got a TK Imperial last week...yesterday I replaced the Em33 speaker with the CreamBack M65 because my son's Hamstead uses it and it sounds amazing. Well, it also warmed and broadened the tone on my TK... I love it!
@luizalbertokoehler4904
7 ай бұрын
Jensen C12N the best by far, especially in the rock n roll sample !!!!!!
@paulthebeardedonedowning6820
Жыл бұрын
the more I listened the more I liked the Jensen it had a character I felt the creamback is a really nice all-rounder feel like it'd go well in many amps cool vid man I love it
@garyslash7552
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative video. As all the comments show, the choice of a speaker is a very personal decision. I would like to add another factor: One and the same speaker will sound different in a different enclosure - which makes the choice even more difficult.
@brisson182
7 ай бұрын
And also style of music to be played or context also has a huge impact. It’s all subjective
@FabrizioCalderara76
Жыл бұрын
I have two V30 and two A-Type in the 4x12 Redseven cab that I primarily use; the A-Type are so good, both in clean and overdrive, they fit very well in the mix and they complete the lacks of the V30's. I love them!
@ScrambleBandOfficial
Жыл бұрын
The Celestion Alnico Gold in my Orange TH30 sounds killer.
@oldmansteve
Жыл бұрын
Purchased a Hotrod deluxe IV a few years back loaded with a A-Type. Was really impressed by the speaker. Ran my other amps through it to see if it was just the Hotrod in general but they all sounded better through the A-Type. Non harsh highs, tight low end and loud.
@anthonydallarosa8314
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I got an A type years ago. Great little speaker!
@beaumowery5610
Жыл бұрын
I found that a g12 65 creamback helped my hotrod deluxe especially with distorted tones to use as a pedal platform but it was an early 2000s model so it didnt have the A type which mightve been enough
@doogieball2464
Жыл бұрын
I put an A-Type into a Traynor YCV-40 (which from what I've read is a HRD copy) and there was a huge improvement. Highs were tamed down and low end tighter than compared what was stock.
@DreidMusicalX
Жыл бұрын
Yup they really do! I put a V30 Anniversary Edition and e Creamback H in my 2x12 Marshall Cabinet. They're now both broken in and they sound fantastic!
@ericbeaudry
Жыл бұрын
I like the Jensen in my 65 deluxe reverb. I want my Fender to sound like the original fenders. Love the sound.
@gearngigs
Жыл бұрын
Very informative video ... thanks for the comparison guys! The ironic thing is that we are all listening to this speaker comparison on different speakers.😂
@BarefacedAudio
Жыл бұрын
One thing I will say for iPhone speakers (and many other small phone/tablet/laptop speakers) is that if listened to at lower levels they’re actually remarkably consistent and revealing in the midrange. The lows are hopeless and the highs are hit and miss but where most of your guitar tone is, these silly little speakers are actually pretty honest!
@steffenbrix
Жыл бұрын
Would love to a selection of Jensens. I think the Jensen wins over all Celestions. Always the same. GREAT video concept, guys! 👍👍
@lazvt8469
Жыл бұрын
I just replaced the speaker on my new Tone King Imperial with Cream Back M65 and WOW.......but....the Jensen here was just as nice. hmmmmm. My Blue Jr has the Eminence TREx...nice but it sounds small compared to the TKing with Em33 and especially with CB65's.
@andreapasillas5803
Жыл бұрын
Very good review and comparison. I'll keep the Jensen in my Tweed Blues Junior
@13thdukeofwybourne
Жыл бұрын
Really useful video chaps. Wow what a difference they all make. Maybe we don’t all need two amps, just one amp out to two cabs with different speakers.👍
@santiagoterrazas3279
8 ай бұрын
Saludos desde México. Concuerdo totalmente. Tono americano (jensen) britanico (greenback)
@GWRFan281
Жыл бұрын
To my ears, the Creamback and Vintage 30 were the best 'all rounders'. They seemed to offer a balanced sound across all three sound clips. The Jensen was great right across the board. The Hempback was ok but didn't wow me and my least favourite was the Lead 80.
@diegobonaparte86
7 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your call, I thought the Creamback and the V30 sounded more open, less compressed... I could argue the call on the Hempback- I might rate it higher up on the list (probably 4th)- but, other than that, I share your views. I was surprised at some of Pete's & Lee's comments at the end, since I did not hear some of the things they said- most probably owing to KZitem compression? I am listening through my stereo (Arcam 5.1, KEF speakers) so some of their final comments on tonality surprised me a bit, especially regarding the similarities between the Jensen & the V30- so I had to backtrack and listen to again a few times, finding the Jensen sounded a bit more compressed. It could also come down to personal preferences, I guess.
@JacarandaMusic
Жыл бұрын
Gosh well done for using loops, it really helps the comparison, though I know some folks don’t like the repetitive nature of the thing - which is the point! And well done for the direct back-to-back too.
@jeffberg8015
Жыл бұрын
I've been considering swapping the Seventy80 in my amp for something else and have been watching a lot of speaker comparisons. My takeaways: Most speakers tend to sound pretty similar when played clean, the biggest differences are found with how they handle higher gain. Most differences between speakers can be compensated for by adjusting the equalization, especially with say a multiband EQ pedal or dedicated EQ. The Celestion Classic Lead had the most differences from the other speakers, which makes sense since they are intended for a specialized purpose as opposed to being general purpose all around speakers. I would have liked for the Greenback to have been included in this comparison, since along with the Classic Lead it has the most distinctive frequency response curve, but in a very different direction with a rolled off high end instead of a bumped midrange. Thanks for the video.
@BarefacedAudio
Жыл бұрын
Dirtier tones definitely show up more differences as a listener, particularly because the envelope of each note exhibits less tonal change so it’s easier to lock onto the effects from changing the speaker. Regarding the frequency response curves, I need to find out if they’re static white/pink noise measurements or swept chirps because the latter won’t show the addition of harmonic distortion whilst the former will - and guitar speakers have a lot of harmonic distortion!
@BladeDoomer86
Жыл бұрын
Swapped mine for a Mojotone British Vintage 30 (60w version). Great difference.. Difference is also very noticeable in the room VS youtube videos. It's Mojotone's version of a Greenback basically. It totally opened up my amp.
@Lilrockerdude13
Жыл бұрын
Fricker has proven this several times over on SMG. However, he was more concerned with just outright metal tones rather than clean and slight overdrive. Nice video and well worth at least a listen for the sound tests
@akwamarsunzal
Жыл бұрын
Fricker is so annoyingly right I think everyone hates him, especially pickup manufacturers ;-)
@AvACyberSecurity
Жыл бұрын
Glenn has shown this. But nobody would ever deny it made a difference. However, his view it's ALL that matters is just wrong. Pickups do matter! A lot of things all add to tone but pickups and speakers most because it's the input and output in the system. Fricker just won't hear that pickups do make a difference and has already changed his view from "doesn't matter" to "doesn't matter for metal". He says the speaker gives thenoutput so its what matters. Of course. But the pickups send the signal to the speaker from string vibration so they have the same value in the loop and therefore matter.
@mofomartianp
Жыл бұрын
@@AvACyberSecurity Pickups definitely matter.
@AvACyberSecurity
Жыл бұрын
@mofomartian Couldn't agree more! Glenn Fricker however can't entertain the idea that they do.
@pilummurialis6490
Жыл бұрын
Guitarists and pickup manufacturers hate him for calling the makers out on their bullshit and also he is trying to save people from pissing away money on stupid shit that is not needed to change tone
@pharmerdavid1432
Жыл бұрын
I'm late to this show, but for me the best Celestion speaker is the G12H30Anniversary (longest name too) - in most amps its my jam!
@whiteninja2006
Жыл бұрын
I concur with what most people have already written. It's probably the most important Factor when it comes to guitar sound, even before Amp and Pickups. The same amp and pickup combo WILL sound different trough different speakers.
@tgvettes
Жыл бұрын
The Creamback is definitely my favorite the way it sounds thru my computer. Suggestion would be to do this with a British style amp.
@j0w213
Жыл бұрын
really liked the hempback and the creamback in this comparison. 👍
@pressonc
Жыл бұрын
Listening on my studio system, I definitely prefer the V30 most followed closely by the Creamback. I personally didn’t think the V30 was very similar to the Jenson, but that could be a result of the recording process.
@eternalcustomchannel
Жыл бұрын
Whenever the Jensen comes on I'm like, "yup, that's it"...Surprised how much I like it.
@victorbeebe8372
Жыл бұрын
Years ago back in mid eighties to early ninties, I had a Marshall open back combo with Vintage 30. Was my dirty sound.
@Magnum5160
Жыл бұрын
I have a variety of speakers in my studio and in my experience the speaker cab has more impact on tone than wood, pickups, and tubes. I had been toying with the idea of swapping the neo creamback in my tonemaster, and after viewing this i'm going to shop Jensens.
@mcliffe26
Жыл бұрын
To my ears (listening on Adam A5X monitors), the A-Type sounds similar to the Jensen but with a little more high end extension. The Creamback has less upper mids but more top, the Classic Lead and V30 are much more mid-focused, and the Hempback is smoother in the high end. For cleans, the Hempback was the clear winner for me, but for the dirty sounds it's a much tougher call; I'd probably agree with Pete and go for the Creamback. I have Greenbacks and Creamback Neos in my cabs and combos, and nothing here is persuading me to switch, although I'd definitely like to try a Hempback. I'd love to have heard a V-Type and a Copperback in the mix, although I appreciate you can only demo what's in stock. Also worth noting that speakers do break in and become a bit smoother over time.
@garrysimmons111
Жыл бұрын
I swapped the V30 in my Carvin V3 combo amp to a Cannabis Rex to tame the sizzle/fizz. Transducers (pickups, speakers, mics) have a HUGE effect on tone. They could have had similar results swapping out the mics or even just changing mic position. It's great fun experimenting with this stuff using amp sim software and/or modelers. It was interesting that the gained up tones showed more differences between speakers than the clean sounds.
@4vinylsound
Жыл бұрын
When I 1st purchased my Fender twin reverb amp with Jensen speakers I hated the sound it was terrible and ear piercing. I then swapped out the Jensen speaker for a celestian V30 and it sounds amazing the best amp I've ever heard better than my Marshall's and my hiwatt.
@RsSquier51
Жыл бұрын
Speakers can make such a big difference, even between say a 12 and 10 inch version of the same speaker. I own 22 different replacement speakers for this reason. Celestion, Jensen, Warehouse Guitar Speakers (WGS) , Eminence. Love mixing a couple in a 2x12 cab and also mixing a 12 with a 10 inch.
@wesleyzimmerman94
4 ай бұрын
Of course the speakers matter, they're a fixed EQ that sit on top of EVERYTHING in your chain
@doctorskull8197
5 ай бұрын
Excellent demonstration! I swapped out a couple Celestions and Electro Voice and JBL’s in my Deluxe Reverb. I prefer Celestion but can’t tell much difference between various Celestions. Re: greenback, Creamback, Vintage 30, etc.
@sub-jec-tiv
Жыл бұрын
If i were starting a jam band i’d call it The Hempback Wails. 🙄 The Hempback and Creamback both sound gorgeous, maybe i need to get one. 👀
@wastl10
Жыл бұрын
All the celestions sound to me like taking a blanket off the cabinet, very nice 👍
@myeyesarewaiting
Жыл бұрын
really interesting to hear how similar they are when clean and how much the differences come out when pushed.
@FenderMarko47
Жыл бұрын
Yes they do make a huge difference!
@kunkmiceter
Жыл бұрын
They might sound different from one to the other, but to me they all sounded good. 👍
@robertmaustin4045
Жыл бұрын
I agree with Pete.. listening to them on headphones I preferred the sound of the Jenson..I just liked the sound I'd get at low volume.. I'm using an old Celestion Century neo..and it's the sound I like..it's so subjective though..and difficult not to get ear fatigue... Anyway good work gents 👍
@HamzaJamzaFamza
7 ай бұрын
Was just considering replacing my Cannabis Rex with a Celestion Century Vintage… how long you had yours in for? Any thoughts?
@robertmaustin4045
7 ай бұрын
@@HamzaJamzaFamza they are about 15 years old.. they were in a 2 x12 cab made by Ameson in the UK. One is in a Delux reverb clone made by Emprize... & it sounds pretty amazing... Well at least to me anyway..
@HamzaJamzaFamza
7 ай бұрын
I just loaded a Celestion Neo Dog, which is identical to the Celestion Century "Vintage" Neo, into my Blues Junior.... It's unreal how good it is! Shame they don't make them anymore, however, I watched a video at some point where it's compared to a Neo Creamback that they currently have, and it's hardly any different at all, well, on the KZitem video at least. Glad I decided to try a Celestion Neo! Thanks! @@robertmaustin4045
@SOADGOD
Жыл бұрын
Yes as @SpectreSoundStudios has taught us. Speakers make the MAIN difference in your tone more than anything else.
@zhiracs
Жыл бұрын
Especially once you start saturating the signal. Clean, though, the differences are much more subtle and what is contributing to the tone seems to be more evenly spread out up and down the line. To be fair, Glen's channel is metal-centric so cleans aren't a concern for him.
@JC-fj7oo
Жыл бұрын
That lead 80 sounds really good. It had the V30 attack but a but higher up. That jensen has a really nice tone too, super mellow. Creamback was pretty mellow too. I expected the hemp to be mellow, but it was really the opposite. Super scooped and clacky highs. That A-type had no highs and sounded like it has the flu.
@BarefacedAudio
Жыл бұрын
The A-Type’s response is tailored (like many “American” sounding speakers) to mellow out the much brighter highs from the Fender tone stack vs the Marshall tone stack.
@geoffdillon6013
Жыл бұрын
I love my vintage 30’s in my 1998 Trace Elliot Supertramp Twin Reverb. Obviously they are 25 years old and they are British made not Chinese (that seems to matter to some people). I just love the mid drive they have while playing live and recording. You just can’t beat them, in my opinion. You do say Celestion V30 are what they are known for, but have only been around since the 80’s. Made for the higher gain scene that was evolving. They have been making speakers a lot longer then that. Great video and reinforced to me that celestion make the best speakers.
@rob28781
Жыл бұрын
I've recently been thinking about swapping the speakers in my Laney 2x12 Cub-Super, so I'm glad this video came up.
@patrickcarroll1754
Жыл бұрын
These also never get old.
@jerryb2332
Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a shoot out of all the Princeton models and speakers. Would be cool for me. Wanting to get another for a stereo deal.
@bumblefritz
Жыл бұрын
I use a Creamback in my Marshall aand I love it so maybe I'm biased but that was my favorite. Next was the Vintage 30 or the Type-A.
@msmetal7694
Жыл бұрын
Liked the Creamback but honestly when it came to gain the Jensen was far beyond what the creamback produced. Had the chance to hear the stock one and an eminence red white and blue back to back in the store and got that beautiful eminence thing in a lighter tweed casing. I think they had the Jensen as well but the eminence was the one for me. But everytime with gain I far liked everything else over the Celestions 😂
@jasondorsey7110
11 ай бұрын
I put a red white and blues in my bj3 and it really opened up the top end...the stock speaker which was eminence-made wasn't horrible, and actually sounded better in a closed-back 1x12 I had it in for a bit, but it was holding the bj back
@alinsandu7190
3 ай бұрын
This was probably meant as a Celestion ad, but all it did is just proove Jensen is better. Thanks for the video!
@henrod27
Жыл бұрын
I was once told that when it comes to lower wattage amp the guitar speaker with the high DB sensitivities are the best speakers for lower wattage amps so it adds in more clean Headroom
@BarefacedAudio
Жыл бұрын
That’s very true - increasing the sensitivity by only 3dB is equivalent to doubling your amp power. Also doubling the number of speakers increase the sensitivity by 3dB below their acoustic coupling frequency (so it makes more difference for bass or chuggier guitar tones).
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Excellent and really well done. imho, the mic and preamp (any) really put a sound contour of their own to the overall sound making the speakers sound more the same than they really are. This is why you thoughts on anything you demo is so valuable, because the recordings, as scientific as you can be, only tell part of the story. Again, very well done.
@mattikangaskoski3544
Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen anyone commenting on this and neither did I hear you hosts say anything about it, but to me it seems that if you originally set the tone and played the loops with the Jensen speaker, that has an advantage in sounding more balanced for these loops. Many of the Celestions sounded brighter and perhaps too bright for this application (yes, Pete), but were the tone set and the loops played with a brighter speaker, the Jensen might sound dark in comparison. Wonderful video, I have no complaints, just a note on tone comparisons.
@edwardgwilcoxjr7232
6 ай бұрын
A variety of different leads, rhythms in clean and gain channels through a tube amp to purposefully separate lead to rhythm in your own self of melancholy. Very challenging! I compared three speakers in 20 watt Marshall amps. Conclusion V - type medium bright. Classic 80 lead tight in high gain lead. Then the Vintage-30 my all around pick in rhythm, clean, gain and lead. They are all great sounding speakers. 🤘
@gcvrsa
Жыл бұрын
For my entire 30+ years of playing guitar, I have always played "American" style amps with Celestion speakers. Even the British amps I've played over the years have actually been based on Fender designs, but still with Celestion speakers. My current main guitar amp is a Mesa/Boogie F-50 with a Celestion Vintage 30.
@Brianbo4
Жыл бұрын
I LOVE the alnico blue in my Vox. Was a bit harsh until I broke it in. But wow, it sings! Honorable mentions for me (dont have much experience with many others) would for sure be the greenback, and cannibus rex. Creambacks are cool too!
@ewetoo
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the blues nave to be broken in. I love the greenback in my vox cos it never has to be, but as far as this comparison goes that hemp is up there with the blue, its definitely got the vox sparkle.
@truthserum9157
Жыл бұрын
If you like Vox blues then you’ll love the Celestine golds.
@gcvrsa
Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've ever heard a Hempback, and what I'm hearing is very impressive. I'm going to have to look into this one more.
@baimun
Жыл бұрын
I swapped out the Vintage 30 in my Mesa Boogie Recto combo with a Celestion G-12 Neo (Neodymium magnet) and didn't detect anything audibly different than when a brand new speaker is a little tight and needs broken in... but my SHOULDER noticed that the combo was nearly 10 Pounds (over 4 kg) LIGHTER! Love LOVE that speaker! ☮❤🎶
@BarefacedAudio
Жыл бұрын
Was that the Century neo you swapped to?
@baimun
Жыл бұрын
@@BarefacedAudio Now that I’m home to double check… Yes, the G-12 Century Vintage Neo with the cooling fins. Great speaker!
@stefanbo3620
Жыл бұрын
The differences are so staggering. Especially with gain. Speaker type and size is a huge part of the design
@glenproctor1999
Жыл бұрын
Love these comparisons. Definitely have to try swapping the neo speakers in the Tonemasters.
@igordemoraeslenzi
Жыл бұрын
What do you want to change they for?
@trawl7880
Жыл бұрын
Great video guys, Going to replace the Cannibis Rex in the tolex jr I have. Creamback all the way. and you know the way sometimes a guitar video demo the player will have like all their pedals on some vintage Dumbl and be like , this is an awesome sounding guitar. and you cant even hear the pickups, just the rig. Your video however is uber proper with the a/b switch thru the same pre and a loop too for consistency. most excellent got skillz
@curtisprice9806
Жыл бұрын
I clearly remember my Dad's original 1956 Fender Super amp...it had an original pair of Jensen gold foil 10" speakers in it's tweed covered pine box! They had such the sweetest sound with extreme definition when playing clean through them....compared to 12" greenbacks in a closed back 4 by 12!!! So....alnico magnet 10" speakers (Jensens') sounded REALLY different than the ceramic magnet 12" speakers (Celestions greenbacks)!!! Massive difference. The Jensen's had that classic Eric Clapton "White Room" and "Strange Brew" tone to the "T" !!!
@frankburke6298
Жыл бұрын
I still have my original ‘68 Princeton Reverb and have tried Fender, Celestion, and Jensen. Jensen sounds best to my old ears.
@charlie-obrien
Жыл бұрын
I have to attest that while I feel that Jensen and many other speaker manufacturers make very fine and usable speakers, my Celestion G10, which was put into a special run by Fender of the Super Champ is just really really excellent. The SC is a 15 watt and I have been thinking of moving up in literal size and power, but when I demo the available replacements, they cannot match the sweetness that I get out of that G10. I know it's the speaker because I've also demoed other Super Champs with a variety of speakers. Oh well, it just looks like I'm stuck with it.
@matthorner35
Жыл бұрын
Speakers make the biggest difference to overall tone I've found. I have a Marshall DSL running into a 2x12 loaded with a cream back on top and a v30 underneath - the mix of warmth and chime from the v30 makes the amp unbelievably easy to dial in.
@thorestey
Жыл бұрын
Glenn Fricker agrees :D
@craigtodd8297
Жыл бұрын
Its funny how timely this is for me. Its like you read my mind again Mr Anderton.
@brucerichard2904
Жыл бұрын
I think the Creamback had the best overall sound. My Blues Junior has an Eminence Red White and Blues, and it has a very nice classic Fender sound that doesn't break up as easily as the Jensen.
@homeworldmusic
Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, the first comparison was night and day different (Jensen vs Celestion) while the next, with the Les Paul loop, I couldn't hear much variation. Loved the Classic Lead 80 also. The Hempback sounded hi-fi, cool! Great demo.
@kimmolingonheimo
Жыл бұрын
I have a favorite jazzy amp Harley Benton Mosfet Lead, and it has a Celestion G12T-100: so tons of headroom and really warm tones! I was REAL surprised it being a cheap amp and all!
@WokeUpScreaming
Жыл бұрын
You should showcase the Celestion G15v-100. I have a cab with two in and it is THE sound I've always been looking for. Like a greenback.... but BIGGER 😁
@chrisfletcher1942
Жыл бұрын
I found that I made up my mind based on the loop tracks and then immediately changed my mind again when Pete played a bit more on his tele in the studio - the Jensen was best in most cases on the loop but the Celestions sounded much better played live in the studio by Pete.
@MrLuigiFercotti
Жыл бұрын
Hempback had the flattest, most detailed response to my ear. Also thing the differences seem more noticeable when pushed
@coffeest
Жыл бұрын
I hope they'll test an alnico blue next time. I love their sound in my AC30, and only know how they're way different than the greenbacks my friend has in his AC30.
@user-mr1ku5iz8l
Жыл бұрын
Alnico speakers are a big part of the Fender Tweed sound. Try out a bunch of different IRs through the Tweed amp sim and you'll see that amp is not the same without those alnico speakers.
@ArvidNielsen
Жыл бұрын
All the variation. I love it! Of course, close mic makes the differences so clear, and that’s generally, how we hear guitar sounds.
@VinceWhitacre
Жыл бұрын
I've never played a hemp fiber speaker. Sounded kinda hi-fi in this test. I liked it. Also liked the Creamback a lot. Had more of what *I* think of as "vintage Celestion." The Jensen and V30 came across like good all-rounders. The Lead 80 sounded brittle to me (on KZitem... I mean...) and I didn't like the A-Type at all. Sounded like playing through a walkie-talkie, like an extreme all mids thing. Could work for a sound effect.
@CrazyCalabrese78
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the impeccably run comparison video guys. Looper and same amp was perfect. Feels like those celestion lead type speakers would sit beautifully in a mix/band situation. I have recently been running my tweed Jensen version with bass and mids down near 0 so it doesn’t fart out with humbuckers. Sounds good to me but I need to try some OD pedals now. It can sound spikey and harsh once you push it (and not great with drive pedals).
@rowangates2197
Жыл бұрын
Big fan of this sort of content. Lack of "like for like" comparisons is one of the things which annoys me while looking into options. Admittedly it's a lot easier to do with speakers and amps than it is pickups or guitars but it's great to have for reference.
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