Absolute self resignation to the will of lord is the surest way to God vision
@mokshajetley9244
2 жыл бұрын
Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna
@purnimamujumdar7459
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying this confusing subject of free will! I understand it completely now! Thank you Maharaj! Jai Maa! 🙏🙏🙏
@shoonyah
2 жыл бұрын
One of my fav topics of research as well. So far what I've understood and assimilated in life is that the discussion of free will and Divine Will can be understood in the context of destiny, effort, surrender and grace preferably, in that order. When we are totally ignorant, neither believe in effort, nor God or grace but rely only on our fate acting as its victims ...there is a fatalistic surrender to one's 'destiny' or bhagya_ lots of blaming and a negative outlook in life. Even effort is hard to make and if at all made, it is done with a total lack of faith in oneself and God. When one believes in effort, the doer nature comes out but quite often we do not leave the result on God - which is journey unto itself. There may be a lot of action in that case but it also brings in lots of frustation, disappointment, expectation and as a result, loss of faith in oneself and God simply because one hasn't learnt to be a karmasanyasi_ renouncer of the fruits of his/ her action. When one learns to perform action with a feeling of surrender and learns to detach from the outcome while keeping the efforts going, then miraculously all efforts start aliging with the Higher will. It falls into alignment with what God has chosen for the individual. Then an attitude of surrender, 'Let thy will be done' develops prior to performing an action itself. One simply becomes a conduit. With this surrender comes Grace because as His instrument now, His song begins to play through us... Freely. A new perspective on 'Freely flowing will haha! So, between the fatalistic surrender and Grace are many stages. Making an effort and learning to surrender - nishkaam karma & poornasamarpan is crucial for mortals. " Udhyamein hi sidhyanti, kaaryani na marorathai....mrigaga" , we know that. So let the cow beleive that it has free will. Let it make the effort to graze the grass. In its journey it will learn to surrender to its limited confines. Divine will is not activated till the first steps are taken by man. Grace is the cherry on the cake and also the underlying force that is enabling man to convert - My will to Thy will. ❤ Maya 🙏🏻
@unified2002
Жыл бұрын
That is not what Swami Medhananda seems to be saying. As per him Sri Ramakrishna is a Hard Theological Determinist, meaning everything is done by God and there is only illusion of free will. There is no free will for ajnani, jnani or vijnani. There is no free will whatsoever for anyone as per Swami Medhananda including belief in God as there is no doxastic voluntarism.
@ksan1648
Жыл бұрын
Seems that no matter how one slices it, coming into existence is a misfortune.
@psrajyalakshmi2306
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Many of my doubts though not all are clarified. Anek anek pranams Maharaj. Eagerly waking for more lectures especially on Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna. Pranams Maharaj
@pujitgandhi1129
Жыл бұрын
This talk is truly illuminating and dispelled my doubts of several decades 🙏🏽 Heartfelt thanks for the wonderful talk and all your hard work in researching and referencing the original sources
@neoistheI
Жыл бұрын
Freewill is intimately connected to Karma and the personal predisposition that manifests. Free will is experienced accordingly. This is why I love the Gods of India. I feel these represent all that is manifest. Humans live in illusion because of the social conditioning they are born into, and the mechanisms in place to maintain the stability of human societies. In reality, as we see in the universe and in nature. There are no "sins" or "laws". We live in the hell or heaven constructed by our minds. There is manifest, and there is unmanifest. There is physical phenomena, and there is mental phenomena. Spiritual direct experience is mental phenomena.
@ksan1648
Жыл бұрын
So, if hell is mere constructions in our mind, I can sodomize you with a 12ft long pine cone while simultaneously waterboarding and spinal-tapping you, and if you're suffering, this is a defect of your vision and not related at all to the "illusory" torture.
@zenzonemanassinha2273
2 жыл бұрын
There is a major fallacy in the argument of Shri Ramakrishna. He is saying that it is God who is doing everything through us and God is kind, merciful and benevolent always. If that is the case, why on earth, he will do sinful acts through us humans in first place. If there is no free will and we all are bound by theological determinism. If there is an illusion of free will, that too then is God’s act. Based on that ‘illusory free will’, if someone does something evil, then that too is God’s act only. Shri Ramakrishna’s argument is - if you realise God, then you will not do wrong things which means till you are not realised, your acts are not acts of God. This whole logic finally falls apart. It cannot be that when it comes to good deeds, its all due to God and when it comes to bad deeds, it all due to that illusion of free will. It simply doesn’t stack up.
@vrtraha
Жыл бұрын
I agree.... Although i believe in Spiritual Determinism.... I argue that Jivas/Souls have inherent nature to themselves and they exhibit it throughout thier life-times. Some souls get moksha earlier and others late bcoz of Soul-Nature. Some souls have capacity to get moksha earlier than others. My argument is, we all have soul nature or unconsciousness, which affects us and we act according to our inherent nature. I call this "Jiva Svabhava"
@anmolkohli
Жыл бұрын
God manifests as the world through the lens of the three gunas (sattva, rajas, and tamas) and the two types of maya - vidyamaya and avidyamaya. Even evil acts are all God's play - we only consider them "evil" so long as we do not realise that everything is God, and the so-called evil acts are also a necessary portion of God's play. Evil is caused by rajas. Realising God is only possible for one who first becomes predominatly sattvic, and then even trigunatita (beyond the three gunas) and hence is no longer controlled by the qualities that God manifests as Nature. Till you are not realised, you are still (ultimately) God, but by the illusion caused by the gunas, we do evil acts. Realising our true nature as God means going beyond the three gunas and hence going beyond both good and evil.
@sau.vaijayantir.kokane865
2 жыл бұрын
Sadar Pranam and Thank you Swamiji for this talk that brings a clarity over this controversial issue! It always annoyed and confused me a lot --- that from the readings of "Shri RamKrishna Swami Vivekananda literature", the example of cow and rope is not given by Shri RamKrishna Himself and yet many times the example is quoted in name of Shri Ramakrishna! And I used to wonder that if sadhaka is fed with similar such stuff in his early days of spiritual life it will prove to be a mess for him and also in terms of wastage of time and energywise.. And the sadhaka shall have to restart again from the point where the foundation was gone wrong so as to correct it and get go to the core Truth of things! Again so many thanks to you revered Shri Swami Medhanandji Maharaj for raising this issue and discussing it from many different standpoints so as to bring Harmony at least to some extent in understanding of free will, freedom and role of God regarding it. May the Grace of Shri Maa Sarada, Shri RamKrishna Dev and Shri Swami Vivekananda be upon Sadhakas!
@smeetaandhare7722
2 жыл бұрын
Ma pranam ma
@smeetaandhare7722
2 жыл бұрын
Ma. Ma ma. Pranam. Ma yours. Manohar. Andhare. Morshi. Maharastra.
@toydroneagrishots
Жыл бұрын
13min:55secs Putin exercises his freewill or Is it the God?
@marymolloy562
Жыл бұрын
Great question! Strange that Putin a couple of years ago was all into restoring churches and actually going to church. You almost wonder if there is such a thing as demonic possession although that is a last resort for me. I think Hindus believe in collective consciousness which could be an explanation for the state of the world today. The bottom line is that it is God playing which isn’t very reassuring!
@harinib5097
2 жыл бұрын
Pranam Swamiji! A very captivating topic. Thanks for guiding us. Still I seem to have some confusion...Isn't the movement from the stage of Ajnani to Jnani to Vijnani also by God's grace. Isn't the act of constantly reminding ourselves that God is the doer also his doing? So where are "we" in this whole equation? Please clarify.
@sanjoydaspurkayastha842
Жыл бұрын
As per Advaita Vedanta/Gita, Atma/ Brahman doesn't do anything. He is only witness/ Sakshi. You say God is only doer/jantri & we are instrument/jantra. Could please clarify
@mmarajh6514
Жыл бұрын
Pranam Swamiji , question on "Free Will" since Bhagwan alone is the doer and I am only the machine, then why do I suffer/happy from my karmic actions?
@souravl8565
Жыл бұрын
There is no difference between you and God. God's free will is your free will. A baddha jiva does not realize this that what he says "his free will" is actually God's free will, but discovering the nature of his free will does not change the fact that it is his free will also. This world is just a play - a lila - God becoming the jiva and rediscovering himself / Herself by going through the trials of maya.
@ksan1648
Жыл бұрын
@@souravl8565 God has inflicted a grave sin against itself.
@goranandrijasevic2534
10 ай бұрын
God is almighty. If there is no difference between me and God why I can't I apply my limitess powers and remove my suffering. THINK before uttering nice-sounding slogans when it comes to sensiitve issues. One becomes close to God (not "is" but "become close to") ONLY when, after a very long and difficult journey, he reaches maximal spiritual heights and even then only after the Grace of God descends on him. Arjuna J.
@sebastianmahadeva7816
Жыл бұрын
So, the answer is "NO" men does not have free will, in a nutshell... Nope!
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