Its not only the size of the ball, but the size of the shank that bolts the ball on. The same size ball can come in different shank sizes for different load weights and shear strength.
@Rio97621
Ай бұрын
My wife agrees.
@sped6954
Ай бұрын
@@Rio97621 🤣
@joewoodchuck3824
Ай бұрын
That too could be consolidated.
@faulltw
29 күн бұрын
@@Rio97621 We need to speak to God about standardizing all "our" equipment. As I age, it is getting progressively difficult to help out my fellow brothers out there by keeping there wives happy. ;)
@rythemzlatin
24 күн бұрын
He said SHANKS , not SK . . . . 🤔 nah , nevermind 🙁
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
Ай бұрын
You can easily standardize things within your own ecosystem: replace the sockets (not that expensive) on your trailers so they're all identical and [drum roll] one ball does it all. But then your pals may start calling you "One-ball Wayne" ...so that may not be a good plan.
@dodgeme1986truck
Ай бұрын
I utilize 2ball sizes for all my trailers 5000lbs and under get 2inch and over 5000lbs get 2-5/16... I even converted all my pin hitch lawn trailers to 2inch balls
@dj20051991
Ай бұрын
not always easy to to... some trailer couplers are welded on from the factory... while you could go to a shop to get a new one welded on it can get expensive for people that dont have the equipment or cant weld.
@dodgeme1986truck
Ай бұрын
@@dj20051991 I used a grinder and an El cheapo flux core welder or a bolt on coupler can be refitted in place of the welded on coupler just uses grade 8 hardware and an appropriate drill and an hour of time
@00700556
Ай бұрын
@@dj20051991bingo
@jamess3532
Ай бұрын
I've been complaining about this for years. All great points and couldn't agree more!
@EyeMWing
Ай бұрын
Fun fact: You know those wacky screw-to-tighten hitches that U-Haul puts on their trailers and everybody hates? They do that because 1 7/8 and 2" are so close that people kept dropping trailers. So they invented a whole new hitch that will work with either of the two.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
That’s wild!
@SilverStarHeggisist
Ай бұрын
Uhaul is now moving away from that to a latch set up
@machintelligence
Ай бұрын
Way back in the day 1950's (approximately) U-Haul used a proprietary ball (2 1/8 if I remember correctly) for their trailers. This was back when they also rented towing adapters that clamped to the bumper of the towing vehicle.
@crasher88
28 күн бұрын
when I started working at my current job I was fully exposed to how wide and veried the trailer world is. not just Hitch ball size but suspension and brakes and wheen and so on and so forth there is so much to learn and know
@1allen111
Ай бұрын
I have my triple ball in my haul truck at all times. It’s great armor against the people behind you that text and drive . The radiator crusher
@denali9449
Ай бұрын
Two problems. Most important is how many times I have banged a shin on that ball mount sticking out of the back of my truck. Been put on my knees more than once. And two. those mounts are straight with no drop. My tandem trailers need a 2", 4" or 6" drop depending on the tow vehicle.
@grassgonewildlandscaping5445
Ай бұрын
Towing multiple trailers I have 3 hitches in my truck Pintle, Tri ball and combination hitch. I mainly use Pintle hitches now
@jmtiptonengland
Ай бұрын
I cannot believe in the US you still have three sizes of ‘ball hitch’, in the UK it was standardised to 50mm, more than half a century ago, every ball hitch can tow every trailer, simple really ~
@crabgundy
Ай бұрын
I believe 50mm is 1 7/8". Which is why 1 7/8" still exists. There are also 3" ball hitches out there as well. The reason why the larger balls exist is because people hate the lunnette ring and pintle knocking around.
@maine-lygamingtips2039
Ай бұрын
We all knew someone from the UK would chime in to let us know you're better. Despite the ridiculous amount of rules and regulations you live under regarding driving license type tied to super low trailer weight limits and lol slow speed limits while towing...but that 50mm hitch makes it all worth while 🙄
@soaringvulture
Ай бұрын
@@crabgundy 50mm is a lot closer to 2"; it's only 0.032" smaller and I strongly suspect that 50mm and 2" would function interchangeably. I have no idea where the 1 7/8" size came from.
@JoeWayne84
Ай бұрын
@@jmtiptonengland the standard for trailers in the US is 2” the 1 7/8” balls are usually on very very light trailers hooked to cars and minivans that keeps the inexperienced driver from hooking up there dads minivan to someone’s trailer that is way to heavy for them. We also have 2 5/8 for trailers up to 30,000 lbs since the average citizen in this country can go buy f450 a large tractor are boat and pull it on interstate if they wish. It’s really not that complicated every trailer hitch has the size of the ball engraved into the metal with weight limits the problem is 99% of Americans don’t like reading … so it’s kinda good we have the possibility of a mixup maybe it will slow them down and they will make sure the vehicle they are about to use is even capable before hitting the roads
@danielpittman889
Ай бұрын
@@crabgundy 2" is 50.8 mm 1-7/8" is 47.63 mm
@jamesbrett9537
Ай бұрын
It definitely could be standardized. Here in New Zealand we just have 1-7/8 and 2" but almost everything uses 1-7/8". The only reason we have the 2" is for trailers made overseas where that size is more common, or very heavy trailers.
@rlr4294
Ай бұрын
Its all about the Load My Dump Trailer would snap the heavest 2'' Ball !!
@baddboat
Ай бұрын
Run for president Wayne! You make more sense then the two options we have now.🇺🇲
@alanshaw4655
Ай бұрын
easier to just swap out all 1 7/8 balls to 2 inch. i changed out all my trailer hitches to 2 inch for this very reason, now they all match up. as for the 2 5/16 only rated to 6000 lbs ?, maybe cheap china steel ?..no idea ?. but what i do know about 2 5/16 balls, is yes...they are '' normally '' rated for higher trailer loads.
@michelbrodeur6055
Ай бұрын
All of my 2 5/16 inch hitch balls are rated for 16,000 lbs. because of the GVWR of the trailers I pull. Not all trailers are boat or utility you also have flat deck and multi axled trailers. Also a 2 5/16 ball comes in 2 different styles bumper hitch and goose neck and they do not interchange. There's a whole different world of trailers out there you just have to be mindful of it.
@allenbush1453
Ай бұрын
I too, swapped out my 1 and only one ball, 1 7/8" hitch, to the 2" hitch, since my other 2 trailers were 2" hitches. MAKES EVERYTHING SO MUCH EASIER ❤😂😮😅
@rjwintl
Ай бұрын
in short : no , folks do not need three-ball trailer hitches … actually easier to just change the couplers to a more universal 2 inch ball IF you have a lotta boats … building a trailer now with a 3 inch wide coupler to handle a 2 inch hitching ball !!!
@Connor-zb4uo
Ай бұрын
yeah I'm building a small trailer that came with a 1 7/8 and adding spacers and such to fit a 2 inch coupler on there. Hate having to switch between hitches for my two boats... Just doesn't make any sense
@c.shoefish
Ай бұрын
I agree 💯. It really does get confusing...I tow a bunch of different trailers, at one point I think I had 8 different sizes with different drops or risers, depending what I was towing...I ditched that and finally bought an adjustable hitch with a 1 7/8" and 2" and I still have two 2 5/16" setups with different drops. The difference in ratings is based off shank size and the material being used...spend the money and get the highest rating set ups you can and don't forget to grease the balls!
@user-dw6tt7bi1m
Ай бұрын
I just took delivery on a new Jon Boat from Bass Pro Shops, Tracker Boat. All their trailers from a small trailer like mine to their large boats are a 2 inch ball. Great & fun information 🚤 Hi from Michigan. 🚂
@rlr4294
Ай бұрын
Yes but all are small Boats rated for those Balls . Bigger boat Require Larger stronger Balls 30ft and up Boat trailers
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
Congrats on the new boat!! I wish more manufacturers would standardize!
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
Yes bigger boats (and other heavy weight trailers) require more heavy duty setups.
@qsmith4639
Ай бұрын
Great video and breakdown, I never understood non standard sizes. Glad I'm not the only one
@TheSleepychicken
Ай бұрын
In Europe we have one size. 50mm just under 2 inches. This tows 3500Kg (7700lbs) which is our maximum domestic trailer weight. Very easy. We have an old lighting standard with two 7 pin plugs or the new standard of a single 13pin connection. This works well and ,akes trailers and hitches compatible.
@carl-oscarbjorkman8923
Ай бұрын
The only real exception would be that some bus trailers use a bigger hitch ball. But that is an exception to the rule.
@thorbjrnhellehaven5766
Ай бұрын
@@carl-oscarbjorkman8923I'm not surprised if there are some ball that's used for trailers above 3500 kg. However the hitches I have seen on buses are either standard 50 mm balls. Or a heavy duty pin connection. Trailers with max weight above 750 kg (1653 lbs) need brakes. Up to 3500 kg they can use inertia brakes, while heavy duty trailers need active brakes.
@carl-oscarbjorkman8923
Ай бұрын
@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 I have heard from a colleague that for a time owned a volvo car that had been owned by a bus company that used it to transport bus trailers that had a bigger coupling. And I'm a Swede if that counts for something.
@thorbjrnhellehaven5766
Ай бұрын
@@carl-oscarbjorkman8923 I'm more familiar with rules specific to Norway. But I expect they are similar across Europe. 50 mm ball is rated at max 3500 kg. Larger trailers need different coupling. The most common I have seen is heavy duty pin coupling. I'm sure there are many different heavy duty couplings I've never noticed, including lager than 50 mm ball. However any trailers rated above 3500 kg, need active brake systems, and any vehicle towing them would need to connect the brakes, unless there's some way around that; like if they have a max weight without brakes. If they weigh 750 kg or less empty, I don't see why it shouldn't be possible to get them approved for max 750 kg without brakes, to allow moving them without connecting the brakes. Then it could make sense to have a heavy duty coupling on a smaller vehicle. If they weigh more than 750 kg, it would be hard to tow (legally) without brakes, but way easier to get the brake system connectors.
@carl-oscarbjorkman8923
Ай бұрын
@@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 I started searching on Google and i could find 60mm and 70mm but I don't know what or if they are used for anything currently. But I agree that the 50mm size is what is the standard unless you need bigger for some reason. And i think that the car was equipped with brake control for the bigger trailer but I'm unsure.
@ern48
Ай бұрын
Great video! Agreed there needs to be a trailer ball revamp. The 1 7/8" ball should have been eliminated decades ago. I can see two sizes with "all equipment" in its category rated to the max that way if it fits it's covered and help eliminate clueless dangerous mistakes.
@carlsartor1423
22 күн бұрын
It is important to have the right size ball match the trailer size. I was at a fire house meeting last Monday and heard a story of someone buying a new side by side, when he attempted to drive it up on the trailer the trailer came off the ball flipped the side by side and the trailer came down on the tail gate!
@aaronhastie830
Ай бұрын
The best thing about standards is that there's so many to choose from.
@AbbyNormalGarage
Ай бұрын
Got one of those convert a balls. Can change between all the sizes. It’s easy to change hitches on the trailer. I have 1 1 7/8 I hadn’t swapped yet. Everything else is 2, except the enclosed trailer which is 2 5/16.
@Jon_boat_adventures
Ай бұрын
You're absolutely correct. Trailer ball size needs to be standardized. Thanks for the videos. I hope you keep them coming.
@pitkinweldingfabrication7573
Ай бұрын
I almost agree. But you forgot the best catch all that will only ever need 1 size... pintle hitch... it's 1 size, you have a donut and a locking clamp... easier to line up, easier to see when its getting worn out, removes the weak link of the ball neck.... all commercialbumper pull trailers use pintle. They also bolt on for easy replacement and adjustment.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
Yeah I wonder why they are less common
@robertemoryjr1611
Ай бұрын
Nope, even pintle hitches come in at least 2 sizes
@404nouserinformationfound
Ай бұрын
They rattle and make noise. Many people don't like noise.
@ezravermeulen901
Ай бұрын
Come to europe, one size fits all. Everything up to the 3500kg trailers use the same ball, trucks use another system.
@wrenchgearsadventures
Ай бұрын
I agree with putting everything over to a 2" ball for regular homeowner use. 2 5/16" would be more commercial use. I'm in the middle of slowly swapping all our trailers here to 2". Things are too complicated here.... Tahoe bowrider - 2" Cadorette ski boat -2" Rockwood tent trailer - 2" Mirror Craft 14ft tin boat - 1 7/8" ATV trailer 1 7/8" Utility trailer 1 7/8" Soon everything here will be 2" and a whole lot easier Great video.
@shane191
Ай бұрын
The different weight ratings on the balls has to do with shank size of the ball also. Some 2” balls have 3/4” shank which is only 3500. Other 2” have 1 1/4” shank which gives it a higher capacity rating.
@SuperS05
12 күн бұрын
While a larger ball would theoretically have stronger shear strength, as you've noticed, it doesn't make much practical difference. The big difference is the upward force (disconnect direction) they can handle, or more accurately, the socket can handle. If someone misloads a trailer, and you end up with negative weight on the back wheels, you can end up in real trouble. If you exceed the limit, the trailer pops off and hopefully allows the driver to keep control, although we've all seen videos of how well that works. (i suppose it's better than no steering) OEM specified ball sizes will use the largest ball they think will keep them out of liability the best.
@sam-y8t
25 күн бұрын
It happened to me last week. My normal "edc" ball is 2". I went to help a friend move his side by side because his son who normally helps him was out of town(with the truck he uses). It was 1 7/8.😡 I picked up one of the triple size draw bars from tractor supply at $100. There's no reason for 1 7/8 at all.
@joshuahulce5630
Ай бұрын
a Gooseneck ball is also 2-5/16", usually rated at something like 24,000-30,000 pounds...
@ges7991
Ай бұрын
So true. Same with bolts, sockets, etc. Why have 3/15, 1/3, 5/16, and 3/8" bolts? There are few places where an assembly is that tight on space that they are looking at 1/16" differences. Oh... and same with plumbing. Why have 1.25 and 1.5" sink and lav drains. Just pick the larger!
@BenjaminHeyser
Ай бұрын
I've been on a mission for years to remove every 1-7/8" coupler I come across. I've changed them out to 2" on my trailers and on trailers for sea scouts and friends. A first thought on a break point is the 3000 lb line as in many states above that requires trailer breaks and below doesn't (with rare exceptions). Another is 5000 lb as I think this is the highest tow rating on midsized SUVs. Minivans and smaller vehicles are typically 3500 lb or less. Anything with a 5000 or less tow rating should be good with a 2" ball for everything they tow.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
Good ideas!
@rlr4294
Ай бұрын
Right its all about the Rating
@DanMar5858
Ай бұрын
@@BenjaminHeyser I’ve been on a mission to remove all Trailer Ball type couplings on our work trailers to Lunette Ring / Pintle Hitch-Type couplers. I’ve seen too many trailers going down the road being dragged by the safety chains. 🤦🏻♂️ Additionally, pintle hitches offer another level of safety with the “closed loops” connection. And they are really easy to hook up if you don’t have a backup camera, just get it close and usually you can drop the ring right onto the hitch. 👍🏽
@user-rs1990
Ай бұрын
Australia uses the 50mm diameter as the most common size. However, older trailers can only use a 47mm ball. Some trailers use a 2-5/16" ball by default and some larger trailers use a 70mm or 3-inch ball.
@gold5th
16 күн бұрын
They make ball shims, so you can turn a 1 7/8" ball into a 2" and a 2" into a 2 5/16". In My truck I carry a 2" on a weight distro ball mount rated to 12K, a 2" one piece with a grease-less cap rated to 8K, and aluminum remove the ball pin in another size adjustable height(just got this one) with all 3 sizes, and the dreaded tri-ball which is my IDGAF abuse mount if I need to do some sketchy stuff. I typically tow 2" stuff which is why I went as high rating as I can on that so I don't need to worry about is my 2" rated high enough for whatever I'm towing. The other stuff is more just in case I stop to help some random person on the side of the road I can. All in all, I don't think it's as big of a deal as people make it out to be. The other issue with standardizing it, is people are dumb. So say you have a 2" 8K rated ball in say a Jeep Cherokee.. people would think they can tow 8K.. cause that's what the ball says, but the Jeep is only rated to tow 5.5k. Mopar used to have a Liability trick.. that unless it came with a factory tow kit, even a 3500DRW Diesel.. it's only rated for 2200lbs.. dunno if they still do that.
@charelsmissinglink
Ай бұрын
I have 4 trailers and 3 tow vehicles. It's a mess. I had to all need different drops and rise depending on what I'm using to tow. I had to spend $500 to by the 2 ball adjusting hitch and changed the ball size on one of the trailers. It's still a mess but better.
@gcburkett
Ай бұрын
I bought a boat and trailer. The trailer has a 1 7/8 coupler. You also have multiple shank sizes too.
@jasonleedham5678
Ай бұрын
Here in the UK we can only tow up to 7700lbs, and all our towballs are 2" works well tbh, however i do like your insert carriers, most of our towbars setups are fixed....
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
One of those odd US things!
@johnspear3452
Ай бұрын
Wrong. In the UK max trailer weight is 3500kg (7700LBS) we officially use metric weights, and the ball is 50mm ( the UK haven't used 2" balls since the 1960s)
@jasonleedham5678
Ай бұрын
@johnspear3452 well I converted as the channel, and one assumes, the main audience are American. 2" being the approximate equivalent to our 50mm (obvs 2x25.4mm is 2")
@chris6200
Ай бұрын
@@johnspear345250mm is appropriately 2". 2"=50.8mm There's less than a mm difference which means that they are usually interchangeable.
@sailingspark9748
Ай бұрын
I have four trailers. A flatbed, a utility, and two boat trailers. I purposely changed the hitch receiver on the smaller boat trailer and the Utility trailer to 2" just do away with the silliness of having multiple balls. I would inevitably always have the one wrong one.
@dougr3715
Ай бұрын
I had a 1967 Mastercraft, and a1959 Tee Nee both with an 1 7/8”ball. Used to be standard.
@larryeaton4263
Ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more. As a matter of fact, the tiny difference between 1 7/8 and 2 is such you con get away with some cross connection. But be careful, it can get stuck.
@ratdude747
Ай бұрын
Had this issue with my FIL's car haulers. His old one (now my current one) is a 2". But the new one is 2-5/16" When went to pick it up from his best friend's estate (as he bought it off his widow), whoops... 2" ball no good. Thankfully we found a class 4 hitch with the right ball laying in the garage which got the trailer home. Both trailers are rated for 7000lb and are tandem axle with one brake axle... only difference is age and that the "new" trailer has a folding ramp. Funny enough both trailers belonged to the friend when new... when he upgraded the first time my FIL bought his old one. Currently I have three trailers: the car hauler above, my 16' ski boat's trailer, and a small 4x8 utility trailer... the former two are both 2", the latter is 1 7/8. But that works out, as the 4x8 is only ever used with my 1995 Ford Ranger's bumper and my lawn tractor (which I modded to have such a ball in place of the pin hole)... the other two are exclusively used with my 1984 F150's class III tow bar (or a bigger tow rig someday, the F150 isn't beefy enough IMHO). Theoretically I could tow the 4x8 with the F150 using a different hitch- the height would need to change, not just the ball size... but that trailer doesn't really add much that the F150 can't do with the bed alone (I only bought it because I needed to haul F150 body parts across the country using the ranger).
@msd357
Ай бұрын
The thing you are not taking into consideration is shank size. 3/4 inch 3500#. 1 inch 6000#. 1 1/4 shank 10000#. There are some exceptions. Ball mounts with 3/4 inch shank holes are made of 1 1/4 inch square stock. Ball mounts with 1 inch shank holes are made of 2 inch, 1/4 wall square tubing. Ball mounts with 1 1/4 inh shank holes are usually made of solid cast 2 or 2 1/2 inch steel. Again there are exceptions.
@wyleb2
Ай бұрын
Except on etrailer right now you can get a 2” ball with a 1” shank rated for 6,000lbs for $15 or a 2” ball with 1” shank rated for 12,000lbs for $19. So you could also just standardize the shank diameter.
@jz422
Ай бұрын
We run B&W Trailer Hitches on our trucks, they have both 2" and 5/15" adjust to different heights and are rated at 10,000 Lbs. It's cheap and east to convert the trailer without surge brakes to a common size. Curt makes a good one too.
@RustyorBroken
Ай бұрын
There are more that three sizes. 3" exists. I have seen them in box stores. Some farm implements use specialized ball hitches as well.
@qapla
Ай бұрын
I agree, the 1-7/8 should be done away with. I have a HF trailer, but I put the 2" coupler on it when I assembled it. As for the weight difference for the various balls, much depends on the size of the shaft and, even worse, if it uses a bolt instead of a nut to fasten it. If it mounts with a bolt, the ball is essentially hollow - but then, so are many of those quick-change balls hollow.
@LJT7907
Ай бұрын
Not to mention most logs butters that you buy are 1 7/8th ball size as well as towable cement mixers
@sped6954
Ай бұрын
Trailer ball sizing is about something you didn't even discuss. It's actually more about the vehicle that is doing the towing, not the towed vehicle. They're like that intentionally, to keep people from pulling large, heavily weighted trailers with a vehicle, or even a hitch, that isn't up for the task. Trailer ball sizing is standardized exactly the way it should be. What they're doing, is preventing you from putting too much of a load on a vehicle that can't handle it. If evetrything took the same size channel and the same size ball, there wouldn't be anything to prevent you from trying to tow a 10,000 pound forklift and its 8,000 pound trailer with your Chevrolet Aveo. A trailer hitch that fits passenger cars is most likely going to have a receiver channel of 1 ½", and the ball mount that fits into that receiver is only going to a ¾" diameter hole, which automatically locks you into a 1⅞ ball, which also locks you into a very, very small trailer. You're supposed to start with the tow vehicle and work back, not with the trailer and work forward.
@sped6954
Ай бұрын
One thing I forgot about... Those ball mounts that have all three sizes on one convenient mount, those are always going to be on a 2" mount, meaning you'll need to have a hitch with a 2" receiver channel. This again, prevents you from being able to use the 2" and 2 ⁵/16" sizes on a passenger car or bumper hitch. You can always tow a small trailer with a larger vehicle, but not the other way around.
@n5sdm
27 күн бұрын
See those bolts on the trailer tongue? Change all the small ball hitch to 2" or 2 5/8", Standardize it yourself for your equipment.
@sbiggs10
Ай бұрын
here in Australia we use 1 Ball for every thing a 2" ball eg to tow a large caravan or a small 6 x4 trailer
@badm0t0rf1ng3r
19 күн бұрын
I have 3 trailers. I made sure I standardized it to 2 inch for all of them.
@Ichibuns
Ай бұрын
I just got a ball and hitch for a few thousand pounds over my tow rating. The only time a ball larger than 2" should be necessary is by trailers with a say a GVWR of 10,000 lbs+. This could help prevent people from towing a trailer that *likely* requires a HD vehicle. At that point you should be looking at a 3/4 ton anyway.
@SilverStarHeggisist
Ай бұрын
Not any more, the half tons are now rated for more then 10K pounds. The 2025 Chevy 150 is 13,300 pounds, the 2025 Ford F150 is 13,500 pounds, The Dodge 1500 is the lowest of the big three at 11,570 pounds (the 2024 version is 12,750, I'm guessing the 2025 model truck itself is slightly heavier leading to the lower rating. While under 10K pounds the 2025 Ford Ranger is rated for 7,500 pounds. Meaning that today's "small trucks" are in line with the old half tons. To further give a idea the higher capacities, when you jump up to a 3/4 ton like the F250, you're looking at 22,000 pounds off the hitch and 23,000 pounds gooseneck. The Ram 2500 is 19,990 pounds. And finally the Chevy offers 22,500 pounds.
@sptownsend999
Ай бұрын
"The closest thing to Perfection is Standardization." - Technology Connections
@olafschermann1592
Ай бұрын
Here in EU we have only one ball size for up to 3.5 tons. And there is the semi / heavy truck thing up to 30tons
@wiedapp
Ай бұрын
Quick reminder for all the inch people: 3.5 metric tons is equivalent to about 7716 lbs.
@brendonwood7595
Ай бұрын
Same here in australia
@GenderSkins
Ай бұрын
Use to run a 12,000 pound 2” ball on my truck, did pretty much every truck even my 1 ton diesel that had a gooseneck hookup on top of the receiver hitch I ran. Thing is I had a 1954 Spartan Royal Manson that had a 2 5/16th hitch, course I never pulled it but I did have it and a ball hitch for it. I personally would not run anything smaller then a 2” on my trailers. My problem is not the 3 different sized balls, but that ridiculous hitch with 3 different balls welded on it. As I was always told that it was dangerous to weld a trailer ball onto anything.
@Bwanar1
Ай бұрын
Yeah they can probably get rid of the 1 7/8". There are a lot of them out there though. Those folks probably don't want to mess with them. You don't want to guess at what your trailer/boat weight is. It's best to take it to a scale and start off with the right knowledge from the start.
@michaelking3327
Ай бұрын
you forgot to mention 3 5/16 which is used on very big boats and mobile homes and 1 1/8 used on reese anti-sway bars
@markmeier4206
Ай бұрын
Problem with standardizing to one size ball is is everyone going to change their couplers on older trailers? Not hardly. But I agree it is a pain to have to have 3 different sized balls.
@dwaynestomp5462
Ай бұрын
The hitches Uhaul uses on their trailers fit any size ball. I don't know if they have a patent or what, but I've never seen them available for sale. The way they work is they screw the pawl on the bottom up tight, making it universal.
@benjaminreinhardt259
Ай бұрын
Most systems in the US could be drastically simplified. I agree with you the towing system could be improved to remove confusion and room for danger/error. Especially the 1 7/8 ball - how many folks have had a 2" trailer coupler hop off a 1 7/8 ball?
@krisramos7453
Ай бұрын
I agree. I think a good solution would be to keep all 3 sizes but standardize them all for certain weight 1” 7/8 up to 2000lbs 2” up to 10000lbs and 2” 5/16 up to 30000lbs. Because they make bumper pull trailers that weigh that much for some reason
@larryeaton4263
Ай бұрын
Another issue is the ball mount bolt size. Often the ball mount bolt diameter is smaller than the receiver mount. They have sleeves. But it's dangerous if someone mounts it without the correct sleeve.
@ragdolltrucking
Ай бұрын
you can find some of the bigger balls rated the same as a 2" but thats just because theyre cheap junk, for the most part ive always figured this was to make it idiot proof, when chrysler built the second gen dakota they switched to 6 bolt because there were some older 5 bolts in salvage yards and what not that werent rated for the extra capacity of the new truck, same idea they designed it to be idiot proof also very important note is that the bolt under the ball is a different sheer strength aswell, i dont know if they still do or not but they used to be different sizes
@SilverStarHeggisist
Ай бұрын
Goosenecks do this, almost all of them regardless of trailer size all use a 2-5/16th ball. SO no need to keep changing out balls for different trailers.
@opossumlvr1023
Ай бұрын
Also the safety factor that was applied to the tow capacity should be written on the packaging that the ball comes with when new. Often it is a factor of 1.5-3. Meaning that your trailer hitch ball could handle up to 3 times its rated capacity before failure.
@markl4593
26 күн бұрын
I find the smaller ball size makes my trailer look larger. That’s kinda nice.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
26 күн бұрын
Very good point lol
@Soladaddy
Ай бұрын
I have 2" balls with ratings of 5k, 6k and 8.5k. Also there was a time I had a 24' cabin cruiser 2" and a Jet ski 1 7/8". I accidentally towed the 24 footer to storage using the 1 7/8 ball. Nothing bad happened, but it was a bit shocking when I unhitched and saw the 1 7/8".
@dylancrow7919
Ай бұрын
In our fleet, we put the same size hitch on everything.
@gonzalomanriquezjr864
Ай бұрын
I have a 1976 trailer that is 1 7/8” and the coupler is welded on. I have a newer trailer for my 12ft jon boat that is 2”. So I got one of the 3 ball hitches just because of that. If the other wasn’t welded on I would switch it out with 2”. But my other boat is only a 14’ Gamefisher so it’s like 350 lbs with gear and motor.
@gonzalomanriquezjr864
Ай бұрын
@@rlr4294 sweet. I’ll look into it. Thanks
@armageddonready4071
Ай бұрын
I got a trailer with an 1 7/8 hitch. It was a double axle with drum brakes. One day I noticed metal fatigue and realized, holy crap, that ball is way to small for this trailer. No wonder I got it free.
@Connor-zb4uo
Ай бұрын
lucky you caught it
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
That's scary!
@jpgale
Ай бұрын
I am not 100% sure but I think in europe all trailer balls are the same size (50mm) although you rarely see trailers as big as in the US. The reason being that trailer hitches over there are permanently attached tp the vehicle (some fold away) so you can not just swap to a different size ball. The last car I had in the UK was set up to tow a caravan and had a bolted on ball and 2 plugs (now changed to a single plug with more connections). This would be doable over here, don't even need the government to do it, just get all the makers to agree and use nothing but the largest balls
@ExperiencesAndEquipment
Ай бұрын
Here's how I would change it. 1 7/8 ball on a 2 inch receiver for single axle trailers with no brake system. For your small cars/suvs with the 4 pin trailer connector. 2 5/16 for anything that needs trailer brakes with the 7 pin bladed connector, with the 2.5" receiver. I'm seeing all large campers are trending this way. Any full size truck (my 2008 chevy 2500 included and my previous 2019 f250) already has a 2.5" receiver. Above that you'll likely be using a pintle hitch for military, heavy equipment, or dump trailers. But that's commercial drivers license territory.
@dodgeme1986truck
Ай бұрын
A 2inch ball is better than the 1-7/8... The best rule of thumb is 5k lbs gross trailer weight and under getting 2inch balls and couplers, and anything over 5k lbs getting 2-5/16 balls and couplers but never exceed any one hitch components limits
@ExperiencesAndEquipment
Ай бұрын
@@dodgeme1986truck that's why I say 1 7/8 for no trailer brakes. Apparently federal law is 3,000 lbs and up requires trailer brakes. So under that, a 1 7/8 ball would be more than adequate. Plus the size difference between the 2 is enough that you could probably eyeball the change.
@dodgeme1986truck
Ай бұрын
@@ExperiencesAndEquipment the thing is its people wanting to streamline their trailer fleets to 1-2ball sizes and I have 3500 lb trailers that don't have to have brakes... As they are grandfathered since that regulation only went into effect in 2023... 1-7/8 balls really are not very safe above 2000lbs trailer gross weight as they wear out much faster and are generally with weaker mounting shanks also trailer rental facilities are starting to not want to rent to a 1-7/8 ball (I have 2inch ball and couplers that have over 100k miles and still don't need adjustments for wear but the few 1-7/8 ball and couplers I had ( they were converted to 2inch) constantly needed the wear slop adjusted out of them... And yes there are adjustments for coupler to ball wear... just like the couplers are supposed to be greased periodically). I prefer the dry film lube for the balls and couplers not the grease or oil based lubes
@freddeavers5624
Ай бұрын
I agree ,There should be a 2 inch and 3 inch. When I buy a trailer if it doesn't have a 2 inch. I by a new receiving coupler, so there is no confused.
@chrism2042
Ай бұрын
My 24' T-top bay boat has 2" hitch, the only time I use a 2-5/16" is with an equipment trailer. I use a weigh-safe hitch that has drop adjustment and flip over 2" / 2-5/16" balls. Don't think I have ever towed a trailer with 1-7/8". I agree on them eliminating the 1-7/8".
@flat4314
Ай бұрын
The rv industry pretty much went to a standard 2 5/16 I deliver 3 campers at a time on a specialized trailer it used to be all 3 trailers could have a different size now 99% is 2 5/16
@BomBoo-rn8gj
Ай бұрын
No..just the one that fits your trailer. And if you get snowed on take it off, or you may regret it, in fact just take it off when not used. (In some States it's the law).
@ralan350
24 күн бұрын
I’ve only ever bought one trailer an 1 7/8 I swapped it over to a 2 inch currently I have three trailers one of which is a 10,000 pound bumper pull which pretty much requires a 2 5/16 so I converted the medium weight trailer to 2 5/16 also and if the one that uses the 2 inch if it didn’t require a fair amount of money and significant amount of cutting and welding I would convert it to 2 5/16 also
@maine-lygamingtips2039
Ай бұрын
2 inch for the win...standardize on that, color code the shank for weight, call it done.
@merwindor
26 күн бұрын
first video about balls i've ever liked
@libertarian1637
Ай бұрын
Hitches: 1-1/4”, 2”, 2-1/2”, & 3”; Balls: 1-7/8”, 2”, 2-5/16”. As a person that has standardized all their trailers to 2” for small and 2-5/16” for large years ago. At 6,000 pounds yes you can find a 2” but at 18,000 pounds you won’t see a 2” ball. There’s a reason professional trailers have adjustment in the trailer as if the trailers aren’t adjustable then you need the right rise/drop setup for each trailer as you want your trailers to run level, or as close as you can get. There’s also different ratings for the hitches and receivers; if this is too complicated don’t tow. Just remember larger, like a Class-V hitch, can handle anything down to Class-I levels. There are more ball sized when you get into goose necks; there are also pintle hooks. The big issue with trailer accidents is the people towing with little to no knowledge or experience as towing can be very dangerous and most people don’t pay enough attention when driving their vehicle let alone when they strap something on the back that can outweigh the vehicle itself.
@rayclark8773
Ай бұрын
Wayne, you are so right. I have two trailers at this time. The boat trailer (small 14' aluminum boat) and a 7K pound-capacity utility trailer (dual axle). I'm standardized at 2" balls. However, I have two different couplers because the trailers ride at different heights relative to my truck. One needs a drop, the other needs a level coupler.
@speedfreak8200
Ай бұрын
@rayclark8773 there's affordable adjustable hitches on the market
@dodgeme1986truck
Ай бұрын
I would recommend sticking to the 2inch under 5k lbs. and 2-5/16 over 5k lbs. Rules of thumb towing a 7k lb gross trailer on a 2inch ball gets sketchy quickly.
@moralreality7328
Ай бұрын
Bought and built my trailer today. Was wondering this
@thomashodgson5600
Ай бұрын
If standardizin your trailers to all be the same is that important, awap the couple out on the trailer. Pulling any serious amount of weight won't have a ball anyway.
@N1ghtF1re
Ай бұрын
What really sucks is when you rent a moving truck, and it has a ball welded on that's a different size than your trailer. I had to deal with that on my last move, I had to leave one of my trailers behind and go back to get it, an extra 12 hour drive time because Penske decided to change their standard ball size from 2" and weld 2 5/16 balls to their trucks.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
Yeah - that stinks! I wonder what their logic is in that decision.
@SilverStarHeggisist
Ай бұрын
That's because usually with rental trucks, you are not supposed to tow with them unless you're towing their trailers. So there is no reason for them to worry about it fitting other trailers because all of their trailers use the same ball. I found this out working for a place that did Uhauls.
@SilverStarHeggisist
Ай бұрын
@@WayneTheBoatGuy That's because usually with rental trucks, you are not supposed to tow with them unless you're towing their trailers. So there is no reason for them to worry about it fitting other trailers because all of their trailers use the same ball. I found this out working for a place that did Uhauls.
@gillgetter3004
Ай бұрын
I think my boat trailer is 1 7/8 had it for years. When I was working construction we had all three, plus a big eye one for miscellaneous implements like compressors for air hammers and cement and mortar mixers etc.
@robertheinkel6225
Ай бұрын
I also noticed the trailer tongue is a different size, based on the ball size. A two inch coupler doesn’t fit on the tongue needing a 1 7/8 ball.
@jerryq1000
Ай бұрын
I agree...also, standardizing the receiver size to 2" would simplify things as well...
@matt4262
Ай бұрын
2 5/16" x 20,000 pounds for all 2" and 2 1/2" recievers. 2 5/16" ball for the 1" and 3" receivers and rate weight accordingly. One ball and coupling size. Easy.
@stratoblaster92
Ай бұрын
100% agree. It's ridiculous. I have a 2" ball, and I have actually replaced the tongues on trailers (with the correct and proper weight ratings) so that they all are 2", just so I don't have to deal with this nonsense. Give me 2" for the small 1" draw bar tow rated vehicles, and go to the bigger ball for the bigger size draw bar. Done. I know you and I are both oversimplifying, but it is really NOT that hard.
@DargoDog
18 күн бұрын
I would be happy if we could covert to the metric system, then worry about the size of our balz.
@Slackware1995
Ай бұрын
I'd recommend that you standardize on 2 inch ball. Any trailer that you have that is not 2 inch replace the hitch with a 2 inch. Its not a difficult job and realatively cheap.
@Tylnorton
Ай бұрын
It's ridiculous. I work around boats and we use forklifts to tow boats around the yard. I cannot stand changing out different sizes balls. It's just dumb. I understand the rating but make all the current 1 7/8 trailers to a 2 inch and anything that requires over 6000lbs can have the 2 5/16.
@BSS22193
14 күн бұрын
No you dont! Here in Norway we only have 50 mm trailer hitch ball size and its so easy that every trailer hooks up to every car with a trailer hitch..
@darrylmcleman6456
Ай бұрын
The little white dog looks something like the Malteese Poodle I had.He would retrieve a tennis ball all day long.The trailer ball wants occasional greasing.Good plan to eliminate the 1 7/8 ball.CHEERS from HERE!
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
I think our dog is a Bischon Poodle - but she does look very similar to the Maltese Poodles!
@tom23245
Ай бұрын
It should just all be standardized to the strongest and highest-rated ball, and that one spec can be used for everything.
@talon426
Ай бұрын
It doesn't matter, every trailer I have ever pulled required a different drop. And the drop matters when the trailer has more then one axle.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
Yeah those adjustable drop models are pretty cool for those situations.
@SuperGreenshades
Ай бұрын
I've got three trailers and all three use 1 7/8 ball so for us it works fine to use that
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
That’s pretty neat - it’s always nice when we have them all the same.
@SuperGreenshades
Ай бұрын
Actually changed the tounge coupling on my newest trailer because it was a 2" and I wanted it to be 1 7/8
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
Ай бұрын
I use the Reese 74309 multi ball, it's rated up to 8klb
@johngaltline9933
Ай бұрын
So the main thing is not the one dollar difference between balls for the end user, it's the five dollar difference in hitch tongues for high volume, low cost, trailer manufacturers. If the trailer isn't rated to carry more than what a 1 7/8 ball can handle, there is absolutely no reason for them to spend more money on a useless part. If you make 10,000 trailers a year, pretty much any company would be stupid to blow $50,000 on a tongue that greatly exceeds the trailer's rating. If you're overly worried about it, swap the tongue on all your trailers... or better, if figuring out which size ball you need is too difficult, maybe towing a trailer is also too difficult and you shouldn't be doing it? The $20 3 way does the job just fine for anyone that has multiple trailers. For the most part the 2" ball is used on everything not built down to a price these day. The boat trailer with the 2 5/16 ball is really weird to me. I usually only see that size on large camper trailers, and when used, everyone pulling them has a dedicated hitch with a sway bar and load leveling setup. I'd also say, the 1 7/8 made a lot more sense back before everyone drove a truck. small ball on small car that can not tow heavy loads, back when cars had hitches without a receiver.
@jamesm568
Ай бұрын
I have to laugh when I buy a truck that has a 8000 lb towing capability, but they give you a 5,000 lb receiver and hitch ball.
@MatthewMello
Ай бұрын
Unless you talk about it later, there is also different shank sizes.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
Ай бұрын
I didn't want to get too deep in the weeds!
@blue39503
Ай бұрын
Working on a golf course with multiple tractors/work carts and accessories you have to really keep track of where all the balls, pins and finger snapping rings are. The threaded shaft of the balls come in different sizes as well and when someone increases the hole size with a cutting torch to accommodate, then your pin hitch accessories will flop around.
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