I'm genuinely impressed that you managed to brick a PC with monitor calibration. That's amazing. Even WinXP had monitor calibration profiles, all you had to do was reset it to the default.
@SuperEddietv
5 жыл бұрын
I miss XP. Free tools and all.....
@germardoumediagroup1472
5 жыл бұрын
@@SuperEddietv he has the right to mislead the masses ...some companies need to sell stuff..give the guy a break..we are just idiots using our brains
@jameschandler4276
5 жыл бұрын
You said that exact same thing about another KZitemr. Do you go around posting the same comment for a bunch of different people?
@bramVE239
5 жыл бұрын
@@jameschandler4276 hahaha so busted! :p
@ventilate4267
5 жыл бұрын
all versions of windows do pretty sure all you have to do is reinstall the graphics driver
@benjhaisch
3 жыл бұрын
I love that I was watching a monitor being calibrated but the music told me we were bringing the ring to Mordor.
@canturgan
5 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at your calibrated monitor on my uncalibrated monitor.
@kevindiaz3459
5 жыл бұрын
How meta
@kevindiaz3459
5 жыл бұрын
@GameingUboxings+ Aww, did I hurt your insecurity? Enjoy watching Fast and Furious vs the Fourth Reich.
@gorkyd7912
5 жыл бұрын
I watched it on the same Dell U2718Q monitor he calibrates. Now I need mine calibrated.
@ScribblebytesWorldwide
5 жыл бұрын
So the tree *would* make a sound.
@pjdexter168
5 жыл бұрын
haha.... that's what I never understood about calibrating a monitor, so great, it looks calibrated for you maybe, but then it's sent to someone else, or printed using a print shop who's monitor is calibrated differently. It seems totally pointless. I could see this being a thing 20 year ago when monitors looked like shit, but screens now are so bomb looking for almost everything, either Samsung or Apple, that calibrating seems redundant.
@HaroldsMind
5 жыл бұрын
Man I feel your pain from your first scenario! Color Management is a very daunting subject to fully understand. A few pro-tips: Your image will look the same in any application that is color managed and/or uses the ICC color profiles that gets embedded with your image (sRBG, Adobe RGB, P3, etc). Always embedded your color profiles to you images when exporting from Photoshop or other applications. If you have a high gamut monitor (ie: Adobe RGB, P3, etc) don’t use Windows default photo viewer, it is not color managed and won’t use the embedded ICC color profiles from your image (your image will look over saturated), you might not notice this if your monitor is not high gamut. As of now Chrome, Firefox, Safari all support ICC color profiles from images so they’ll look the same in those browsers. Some services (ie: LinkedIn, I believe Twitter as well) will strip out the ICC profile from your images, which is why you might see them differently when uploaded. Facebook coverts your ICC profile to their own version of sRGB, so for the most part they’ll hold up color wise to how they looked.
@nobodynowhere5213
5 жыл бұрын
Not many people understand color profiles, photography has become so easy that people simply have less and less skills.
@piyush.ochani
5 жыл бұрын
which image viewers should be used then?
@nobodynowhere5213
5 жыл бұрын
@@piyush.ochani bridge i think is free
@WeirdFishStick
5 жыл бұрын
What about about clients that barely can use computers? Should I offer photography and monitor calibration service too so they can see pictures as I intended?
@HaroldsMind
5 жыл бұрын
@@piyush.ochani I use Bridge. If you have an Adobe CC subscription or older versions of CS you can use that. If you have the Adobe Photography Plan, many other's use Lightroom. There are a few other alternative photo viewers outside Adobe as well that might work well. I haven't personally had any experience with them.
@sorenmelchior
5 жыл бұрын
I have been using color calibration software for computers (apple, and PC) since the late 90's with both Xrite, and Datacolor. Both company's have provided excellent quality over the years, and have improved the ease of doing a calibration quite a bit in that timeline. Your description of having different colors on different applications seems like something went very wrong with your calibration process. Because what calibration does is create an ICC profile that gets embedded in your OS (and if you know where to find it, you can delete it without having to do a reinstall). Working properly it should affect all applications on that computer you are working on. Another tip: If you want your prints to match what you see on your monitor, you also need to create printer profiles for your printer paper. And that's for each type of paper you are using on that printer. So say you have a gloss, semi gloss, and luster papers you are using on a printer, then you have to create 3 paper profiles (one for each paper). Now some paper company's offer some baseline paper profiles for printer models on their website. But if you want the most accurate print, you will want to create profiles yourself. I myself currently use Xrite Colormunki system as I can use it for both monitor calibration, and making printer profiles in one unit. So just remember that if your objective is printing, monitor calibration is only half the work.
@John_Claybrook
4 жыл бұрын
I can use this to calibrate my monitor. Then I download a printer profile for a certain paper from a printing company, say Luster. Everything should look right then if I load that printer profile into photoshop when looking at my photo?
@Layarion
5 жыл бұрын
Fstoppers...i wished you woulda...Printed something. Just to see if the picture was as bright/dark as on your screen.
@andrejrockshox
5 жыл бұрын
i doubt it. he would need to calibrate printer too. and there is RGB vs CMYK gammut problem...
@krane15
5 жыл бұрын
We don't typically view photos through backlight.
@trypersistence
5 жыл бұрын
I've used the Spyder 5 Pro for a long time. Can't get great prints without a properly calibrated monitor. I have a Dell U2518D, which was very close out of the box, but, as usual, too bright with green and blue tints to maximize brightness. Perfect calibration with the pro.
@izoyt
5 жыл бұрын
for true identical prints as possible, you need calibrated printer also, and actually, you need different profile for every different paper you use, since it does make difference. same goes if you use different type of ink (let say, other brand or some spacial, waterproof ink), too, but lets leave it there. Few (actually, more then few) years ago i did play with this things, calibrated monitor, calibrated printer and then scan all prints on calibrated scanner (this was all non-pro devices, only 4-color printer etc) and results were night and day, specially when looking ion every different colour channel, where you really can see, how wrong printer work from their factory settings. edit: just found whole thing, if somebody interested, here's the link. it's in Slovenian, but i think you can figure things out www.slo-foto.net/clanki/136/kalibracija-tiskalnikov most important it this proofing (last picture), as mentioned before www.slo-foto.net/slike/clanki/Kalibracija_tiskalnikov/razlika-vse-web-500.jpg left column in printed (and scanned) picture without profile, middle column is reference picture (original photo,non printed) and right column is print with calibration profile. please remember, this is print on low cost, cmyk printer.
@nordic5490
5 жыл бұрын
Bryan Stewart my factory calibrated Dell 30" was great right out of the box, and the spider did not change the colour at all, only reduced the brightness a little. I recommended to people to buy a good calibrated monitor and save your money on the spider.
@jsabatier514
5 жыл бұрын
I also use the Spyder calibrator and love it. I can't work on anything not calibrated heck, I even had my work monitor calibrated.
@warrend98
5 жыл бұрын
The only missing element is a calibration comparison. The calibration is only really helpful if a) it lets side-by-side monitors match each other or b) the monitor matches the printout.
@tayl0124
5 жыл бұрын
Not calibrated until you get and match prints. Doesn't matter when it was printed as long as it wasn't color corrected by the lab, or the file changed.
@RuddyDelRosario
5 жыл бұрын
I don't use PC but in a Mac It's super easy and works great. Tray a mac. And as a professional photographer, I humbly think that it's very important to have the monitor calibrated.
@kwizmon
5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Calibration is super important if you're a pro. Although, it doesn't make a difference if it's a mac or pc.
@thomasaffli9273
5 жыл бұрын
Kick the mac in the trash homie
@RealHankShill
5 жыл бұрын
Just because you calibrate your monitor does not mean that what you see is how it will print. It means that the monitor is showing you accurate colors to what it is told. Printing uses an entirely different color gamut, with a different process, on a variety of papers. Yes, if you want accurate prints you need to calibrate your monitor. That is just step one though. After that you need to soft proof your file with a profile that is set up for your specific printer, inks, AND SPECIFIC paper. Your computer will use this to show you a representation of what it could look like and will show you which colors you see on your monitor that CANNOT ever be printed on your combination of printer and paper. You can choose how to replace these colors. Point is, calibrating your monitor has little to do with how your print will look. Calibrating your monitor is to make sure that what you see, is what everyone else sees, particularly in color shift, as we all know what tiny color shifts do to the mood of your image.
@lilblingking1491
5 жыл бұрын
@Phil W Some online companies have profiles on their website that you can download for soft proofing. It's super useful when they do! If you're in the US, try AdoramaPix
@sethleigh8850
5 жыл бұрын
It's actually frustrating because I'll work on my photos on my calibrated monitor, then send them to other people who of course are using uncalibrated monitors, so I still don't know that they'll see the photos the way I intended them to look. I had this experience recently where I brought a whole CD of images that looked great on a calibrated monitor, and the guy I gave the CD too was looking at them on this god-awful office computer monitor that just looked horrendous. Sigh.
@RuiPalmeira
5 жыл бұрын
@@sethleigh8850 they don't need to have their monitors calibrated. sure they're "experts" and should have it somewhat at a decent setting, but they won't change your pictures before printing. they'll get them, print them, notify you that the job is done and get on with their lives.
@nordic5490
5 жыл бұрын
Logan Cressler this video was about calibrating your monitor. There is a separate process to calibrate your printer - if you are one of the few who actually print.
@sethleigh8850
5 жыл бұрын
@@RuiPalmeira yeah in my case the people with the uncalibrated monitors weren't printing them, they were using them for their own on-screen purposes. My point was that making photos look great on a calibrated monitor only helps you to the fullest if the people looking at your images are doing so on calibrated monitors. It's still better than making images look great on an uncalibrated monitor and then sending them to people looking at them on uncalibrated monitors, unless yours was somehow badly calibrated the same way as everyone else's. In my case I've noticed a lot of cheap desktop monitors tend to be badly calibrated in the "too yellow" direction, while a lot of cheap laptop screens tend toward "too blue." It's just a personal observation from calibrating my own and a few friends' screens, nothing scientific, and my view could be skewed by my small sample size.
@ricecrash5225
5 жыл бұрын
Small tip for some. I work 100% from a laptop and outsource my printing. My print company offers free colour calibration matching their printers. I take my laptop in and they do it, no charge. Of course you can’t do this if your print company isn’t within reach. Maybe check with your print supplier before spending ?
@Fleet42
4 жыл бұрын
Rice Crash i'd love to know who you use!!
@Tomiply
5 жыл бұрын
14:40 - Actually, that's why it's extra importent to have a calibrated display, because if you share an image you edited on a monitor that has a cool temperature, it's going to look even more cool on a "vivid" display that someone else has.
@krane15
5 жыл бұрын
All you really know is that the original meets standard specifications.
@kaostical
5 жыл бұрын
Each individual monitor is different even if they are the same product. You need an IPS monitor since these are able to display the true color but keep in mind that over time color temp and brightness will change, so regular calibration is necessary (about every month depending on how important it is for you). When calibrating many screens to show the same color range, you are limited to colors which all the monitors are capable of showing so you will get the least vivid red, green blues.
@HEREONOUTBAILEY
5 жыл бұрын
“Lee Morris - Calibrating The World Pt 2” 😂
@bosco1234
Жыл бұрын
I totally understood your feelings, that happened to me as well when I got the Spyder 4 in 2014, and I told myself I will never touch a calibration again, spent so much time to read up, used 3rd part apps, to finally give up on it. Now that I want to bring my laptop out for work and realised it's not colour in sync, I decided to see if there's any updates to it, and chance upon your video. THANK YOU :)
@PauloParreira
5 жыл бұрын
Still use Spyder Pro 3, unfortunately Datacolor forgot to update the software for Mac. It can calibrate but at the end saving profile is not possible, but if buy a new one it comes with newer software. Had to change to DisplayCal. Thanks Datacolor.
@andrewmccarty
5 жыл бұрын
You should consider upgrading to the new SpyderX. It's new lens sensor is supposedly wayyyyyy more accurate and a lot closer to the Xrite products.
@dzsemx
5 жыл бұрын
i have 2 things to tell to you: - Many monitors have more than 100% SRGB color space that's why they are too saturated. - Spyder is a POS, the calibration method used is awful. Get an x-rite i1 display pro colorimeter, that is a much more serious tool.
@amaly76
5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@andrewmccarty
5 жыл бұрын
I've always heard the same thing, but im curious if the new SpyderX is better now that it has a lens like the X-rite has.
@ghostapi874
5 жыл бұрын
SpyderX is decently close hardware wise but both x-rite and spyders software is still garbage. It puts to much emphesis on doing the job quick. With either device you should be using something like displaycal and preferable a monitor or display card that skips windows all together.
@jsanders196
5 жыл бұрын
I got mine a few years back & I definitely had a major green shift like yours. Greens, brightness & vibrancy were the biggest changes.
@acscw8408
2 жыл бұрын
When I calibrated my monitor about 5-6 years ago, I encountered the color destruction like u did. I just recalibrated my new monitor and I think they did something to correct it quite abit.
@GranularToast
5 жыл бұрын
The reason your images look different on IE than Photoshop, is because you're saving in AdobeRGB which is used for printing. If you export in SRGB it will look proper on your monitor. Hope this helps! your monitor is calibrated properly, it's how you export the file. :) Please calibrate your monitor guys, Companies spend lots of time and money picking their colors, they won't be happy if you give them and off colour photo or video.
@FStoppers
5 жыл бұрын
No, we always save our jpegs to sRGB. The reason is that IE used to (not sure what Edge does now) pull a different color profile than what windows and/or Adobe would pull. So Picture viewer might pull the sRGB038209384yadayada profile but PS would pull the new calibrated profile. -P
@dcallan812
5 жыл бұрын
Im glad that it was not just me it tool AGES to sort back to "normal"
@SwiftGeneration
5 жыл бұрын
No idea what these guys are talking about, but I just got a refurb a7ii and this fixed a hot pixel issue I was starting to feel sick about. THANK YOU.
@EugenioTrainer
5 жыл бұрын
Nice video... I'm impressed that you do not calibrate the monitor periodically being you're so professional
@icon134
5 жыл бұрын
I've never had a Spyder brick my computer. I do think the process has improved substantially in the last few years.
@RomboutVersluijs
5 жыл бұрын
WHen saving images just make sure you save as sRGB, thats one of the main things. BUt i guess you know that already.
@tayl0124
5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully
@aaronokimoore
5 жыл бұрын
Print calibrated monitors only resolves half the issue. Printers need calibration too. Printer color profiles are equally sensitive and can produce wildly different results and paper type can impact how those colors look as well so typically printer calibration is depended on the media type as well. Now what sucks IMO is when some browsers support calibrated images and others don't. On the same monitor, an image with a color profile can look entirely different on a monitor.
@OniMirage
5 жыл бұрын
FYI for anyone that runs into this issue described at the start ... Color profiles that photoshop and the like use are software, OS level you would have to change the profile and without knowing how to change it back in the display driver itself to revert then a wipe would fix it but not needed. Easiest way to revert the profile via windows is hit the start/windows key on the keyboard then start typing calibrate. Open Display color calibration hit next until it's all the way done and don't change anything all the way until it's finished. It should now save as the default profile settings. You can run it again and try to calibrate by hand if you want or run whatever it is you plan to use.
@SAR2467
5 жыл бұрын
been calibrating my monitors for years, not really difficult to do 🤣🤣
@simonwood8637
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any go-to guides (video or article/text) you'd recommend I read to learn calibration? I actually am good with computers (in general) but have never touched monitor calibration and not looking to blow $500 on hardware - so I'll likely rent something like a Datacolor Spyder 5 Pro for $30 and try to smash it out in one weekend. But I don't know what I don't know.
@rasmachris94
4 жыл бұрын
@@simonwood8637 As far as calibration goes it's basically use hardware to detect it digitally or eye-ball it with something like: www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ And using Nvidia's control panel.
@throughvf
3 жыл бұрын
Try calibrate the monitor in mac. Windows do colors in a messy way. I used to calibrate when I was on a Macbook, and the result is good.
@lenzwizard
5 жыл бұрын
Great video but you failed to show how you could undo the process if you don't like it.
@jimfeldman4035
5 жыл бұрын
It prompts you in the app dialog if you want to save the change
@LucasJodokast
5 жыл бұрын
He doesnt know how... this guy obviously doesnt know shit about colour calibration or PCs for that matter
@lenzwizard
5 жыл бұрын
@@jimfeldman4035 but if you "save the change" can you later go back and undo that change?
@jimfeldman4035
5 жыл бұрын
@@lenzwizard Sure. On windows you have .ICM files. I actually have multiple since I've found what's good for reading isn't the one I want for photo editing You assign the icm to the display. IOWs, I assign one to the laptop and another to the second monitor
@kwizmon
5 жыл бұрын
@@LucasJodokast he already admitted that about calibration.
@ericventimiglia6482
4 жыл бұрын
Can you easily toggle off and on when you want your screen to be calibrated. Like, only have it on when doing editing but easily turn it off for everything else if we enjoy thr vivid colors for gaming and such?
@weekendwarrior3420
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need to start with trying out backup softwares. I find the Linux dd app quite helpful for that, but you have to take your drive to a different PC temporarily.
@brockkirschenmann9711
5 жыл бұрын
Here's a great tip, if you are a person that prints images or you want Client Prints to look as expected.... after calibrating your monitor, then toning your images... get a few made by your vendor of choice, a chart, BW and Color image. then I manually adjust the monitor slightly to closer match to the actually printout. I find calibrating to make the large 90% adjustment, but then I manually adjust the 10% for my monitor and print vendor of choice.
@Bpjames
5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone make a computer with a CD rom anymore? I realize it's just "progress", but sometimes I don't appreciate forced obsolecence.
@susanpratt3290
5 жыл бұрын
There are external CD-ROM drives for those who don’t have a Cd-ROM Drive. I have CD’s that have hardware drivers on them. I also want to burn a backup image of my computer as well in case I need to boot off a cd and do a reinstall. I did get a laptop with a CD-ROM drive.
@penkatadrums
Ай бұрын
I feel like the preview window after the calibration is a gimmick, because 1. it shows even on the screen recording, which if you think about it doesn't make any sense, and 2. because it looks the same on every calibration, which also doesn't make sense... So the place to look when switching between the profiles would be NOT at the preview pictures, but maybe at your desktop icons or maybe something on the background... At least that is changing too 😅
@LaGaspa
5 жыл бұрын
Fstoppers I don't understand when you say "brick your computer"...when you last calibrated. I calibrated my first monitor during the windows XP days and it created a profile that was placed in window startup. And yes, it affected other programs such as my games I played back then but if you remove that startup file, your monitor would return to pre-calibrated status, and that's what I did, I manually fired it up when I was editing. Fast forwarding, they prices is still there same, a profile is created and is included when first starting up windows. Remove it and manually start it.
@cogsincogs
3 жыл бұрын
"I'm pretty good with computers" - says he had to reinstall windows to revert color calibration... guys, ignore this video he has no clue.
@lulumink0
3 жыл бұрын
Hahahah, that’s true. It’s very easy to erase color profile
@DeltaModelX
3 жыл бұрын
10 years ago you were in preschool so stay quiet
@cogsincogs
3 жыл бұрын
@@DeltaModelX just finished uni, but ok. Pleb.
@DeltaModelX
3 жыл бұрын
@@cogsincogs i said 10 years ago plus you have finished uni but don't know what rounding is?
@cogsincogs
3 жыл бұрын
@@DeltaModelX yeah, I finished uni then. Dunno how you can defend this video, you must be as dumb as him.
@filmic1
3 жыл бұрын
That process is almost the same as my Spyder3 Pro 4.x on my mac OSX 10.11 before Mac changed my puter up to Sierra. I lost my Spyder3 Pro. But it worked well under Yosemite... Datacolor said the coding changed as well as the lens. Wish I still have my 10.11 running. Sigh........ I was printing giclée prints on Moab in b+w using Piezography Split Tone inks in 2013. Quite a printing experience. My prints came out pretty evenly matched.
@Camrographer
5 жыл бұрын
End use is definitely the determining factor in calibration. I thought I needed it, I picking up a spider elite a few years back. As you mentioned it darkened, shifted and de saturated the images. But one must adhere to the lowest common denominator and that is the usage scenario. My clients strictly used it for web purposes. Thus, I needed to mimic what they would potentially see even if it was on an overly bright and calibrated monitor. In fact I was so infatuated with color management that I almost went with a wide gamut monitor. I'm so glad I didn't
@lighteningwawa
5 жыл бұрын
Don't know about then, but now they write the calibration into the OS. It's like overriding your monitor's driver. That means the colors are regardless of the application you use. In face, the OS's own interface colors are changed accordingly.
@thewarhenk
Жыл бұрын
Your work is great. Glad that you became convinced of proper calibration. Smart of Datacolor to have reached out. Uncalibrated monitors can be the death of image processors. Brightness and contrast affect color balance and also saturation levels. In the past, color management WAS more frustrating as you describe. Not only Windows apps, but as you mention, Internet Explorer, this because, some browsers were not color managed. Today, most are. Not to throw a wrench into the works, but many photographers say that free, DisplayCal software does an even better job with the Spyder, than the Spyder's native software. A bit trickier to set up and longer runtime, but superior. Thanks!
@dukenu100
3 жыл бұрын
If your own monitor is darker than it should be, other people may see your images too bright; if your monitor is too bright, others might see your images as too dark. Since the average user doesnt' have a calibrated monitor, its almost a waste of time to calibrate your own monitor. You should calibrate, if you are a photographer, to match how prints come out...you have to guess, send a file, print, see how it comes out, then adjust until its pleasant. Only professional photogs printing gigantic prints for show competitions have any use for such technology.
@DavidSornbergerFilms
5 жыл бұрын
I had the same experience when I was first shooting weddings and tried to calibrate my monitor. Loved this video! Thx 😊
@pelikan88
5 жыл бұрын
You obviously have NO idea what color management is all about?
@nordic5490
5 жыл бұрын
pelikan88 hardy ha ha. I bought my Dell30" with factory 100% rgb cal, then blew money on a spider, and guess what, the colour beofre and after cal was exactly the same (no surpise) and the bightness changed a small amount. Buy a good monitor and save money on the calibrator.
@tayl0124
5 жыл бұрын
Monitors need to be calibrated to the lighting conditions in the room in which you use them. Which is why no monitor can truly come calibrated.
@kwizmon
5 жыл бұрын
Is that a question?
@kanehi
5 жыл бұрын
I bought a Spyder color calibrator and it's like night and day compared to factory settings
@davesbrewing
5 жыл бұрын
welcomed to the 19th century, what will be next perhaps horseless carriages or telecommunications. I have been calibrating video screens professionally since 1988 using gels and SMPTE color bars.
@michaelandrews4403
5 жыл бұрын
I use a Pantone Huey, bought for XP, originally, and it refused to work on Win 7, (obsolete software); there was no software update from the Pantone website, either. A few weeks ago a software update appeared for this model and now I have it connected again and it calibrates perfectly. What I see on the screen is what comes out of the printer. New laptops and monitors are retailed, deliberately, with boosted Brightness and Contrast, (especially Contrast), and this is what makes you say, "Wow!", and gets you reaching for your cash to spend. Ironically it is inaccurate Contrast that is the biggest problem for Shadows so when you print shadow 'detail' all you get is Black, (blocked shadows).
@sheldonnorton9035
4 жыл бұрын
Is my Spyderx pro calibrating my integrated graphics card or my nvidia card? Or is that even a relevant question? My main concern is for video editing and what I am looking at in davinci resolve. Thanks for your help!
@Allanrpsx
5 жыл бұрын
would have been a much more valuavle resource if you tested some prints with a professional printing service.
@beerborn
5 жыл бұрын
Here's something I can't figure out. I calibrated my monitor using the Spyder 3 Express. I have the i1 Profiler software which I got for my Canon Pixma Pro-100 and I've looked at every i1 Profiler video to see if I can do a monitor/print match. Nothing came close. So here's what I did, using various photo print papers from Canon, Ilford to cheap glossy paper I used Photoshop CC and launched the Canon Print Studio Pro. In the Canon Studio Pro these were my settings: Printer: Canon Pro 100 Series, Media Type: Plain Paper, Print Quality: Standard, Layout: Borderless, Color Mode: Use ICC Profile, Printer Profile: Canon Pro 100 3 Photo Paper Plus Semi-gloss, Rendering Intent: Relative Colormetric, Color Balance: All "0's". When I made a print, believe it or not, the print came close to matching the picture on my monitor. Using glossy to semi-gloss paper it came close to matching my monitor. My conclusion, I'm staying with these settings. BTW, I'm using Windows 10.
@manchester8117
5 жыл бұрын
Total Noob question. Can you calibrate a monitor if it won't be staying on a computer? At times I bring my monitor to a shoot to let the client at video village see what is being shot. I'd like them to be as consistent as possible. I also have an older Dreamcolor that I'd like to have as a back-up if my on-set Flanders goes down.
@jimfeldman4035
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can. Just name the ICC profile a unique name. and assign it to the monitor when you attach it.
@GedasSt
5 жыл бұрын
:D :D :D :D :D I Understand problem, what You talk about Your last time. I'm calibrating monitors for photographers over 9 years. Hundreds of different models with maybe 20 different devices. You did almost everything wrong from beginning... "duplicated" monitors :D :D :D :D :D P.S. I still NEVER saw NONE good tutorial about Calibration from A to Z.
@BertrandVan
5 жыл бұрын
Well maybe do one genius lol
@GedasSt
5 жыл бұрын
@@BertrandVan I did it. Just on my native language - (lietuvių kalba ) and not on KZitem. I never learn English.
@sjcproductionsandmedia
2 жыл бұрын
What was the calibrators brightness recommendation?
@3atmey
5 жыл бұрын
This has always been something that i thought about...after a lot of thinking, i just decided to not calibrate...lets say i calibrate my monitor...to what it should be calibrated to? will the other person on the other side of the globe watch my image on a calibrated screen or not? too complicated high tech shit for me. The only calibration i care about, is when i have to print, that s it for me...i dont care about anything else.
@andrewmccarty
5 жыл бұрын
I had the same opinion for a long time, but I read something recently that resonated with me. The people sitting at home on their uncalibrated monitors are USED to the way that their screen makes things look. So for all the professional media they watch that was edited with a calibrated monitor, it will look normal for them on their screen because it is what they are used to. But if you don't edit with a calibrated monitor, and in reality it has too much saturation, or a green tint or something, it will look strange to the other person because its different from what they are used to seeing. Does that make sense? So even if the other people don't have calibrated screens, they are used to images looking a certain way on THEIR screen. In order to make it look normal for THEM, you need to calibrate your monitor.
@ninovanhooff3926
4 жыл бұрын
@fstoppers Why do you wear your lavalier microphone upside down? I guess it is too loud upside-up?
@FStoppers
4 жыл бұрын
We've done tests and it doesn't seem to matter which way they face. Most reporters wear it upside down to prevent the pops from strong phrases but we obviously have the winds screens on too. I mainly place the mic whichever way fits my shirt best. -P
@AdrianIII
5 жыл бұрын
Clickbait: Of course not, you fool. All those professional photographers/printers are fools.
@williamberger2178
5 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe you have NOT been calibrating your monitors until now! I've been using the Spyder or monitor dedicated calibrators since 1990's for print output and when I would use a client's computer I would be shocked by how outragious the colors would be. Also if you are printing your own photos you should be able to choose "match my monitor" setting and your output should be very close to what you have seen on screen. My experience has been using Mac's and Mac OS so I'm not sure your experience will be the same, but from what I hear windows 10 is much improved with regard to color management. Good luck.
@dwaynevans
4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Spyder Pro last year and had to completely reboot my PC. I'm not sure what it did but it messed everything up so much. The images from Lightroom and Photoshop were completely different once saved and viewed in any another program. Even when I moved the images from my PC to my phone they were still playing up. They'd look over saturated in the image viewer and desaturated in Snapseed or Instagram. I now have to calibrate my new laptop as the colours suck (Dell XPS 15) but I'm not sure what to do?
@ridingtherr0502
3 жыл бұрын
Never uses the win10 photoviewer coz it does not read the icc profile generated by spyder, fasttone image viewer has that option to read and display correct colours.
@nivyan
Жыл бұрын
I once started a job as a frontend developer, wherein we were two guys that basically had to implement a new design. You will not believe the amount of issues we ran into with colouring because the designer didn't understand the technical aspects of color profiles etc. It's a huge headache if you don't handle it properly.
@jesseroussellmusic
5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that monitor on my XPS Special Edition Tower. Out of the box it's already calibrated & looks great. I DID calibrate it w/the Spyder but it was indeed worse, unfortunately
@damidammi
2 жыл бұрын
You should calibrate if the monitor is intended to be calibrated :) which means it’s hardware calibrated. In your case it’s just a random data warping that your graphic card is doing in order to change the colour output but it’s not accurate for sure! Calibration only make sense in hardware calibrated monitor :)
@artmaltman
5 жыл бұрын
What numbers did you calibrate to? Also the colors look similar in various applications now (as opposed to before) because Microsoft has made effort to catch up to Mac on color management.
@jonathansturm4163
2 жыл бұрын
I’m impressed. I wasn’t looking forward to doing this manually with my target photograph that came with CorelDRAW Suite 7 (IIRC). When I set my venerable Dell 2K monitor a decade ago, it remained good enough that what came out of my local print shop was as near as dammit. My new 4K BenQ monitor will definitely be set up with this Spyder device!
@muhammadahmed4477
5 жыл бұрын
I think you guys never calibrate your monitor 10 years ago. That time windows XP was new, and it was impossible to color calibrate the monitor for every program, most of them just completely refuse windows color calibration.
@reldies5364
5 жыл бұрын
Windows XP came out 2001 ... how is that new ^^
@JosephAlukka
5 жыл бұрын
I have a 3 27" monitor setup with 2 cards in SLI and Nvidia Surround. All 3 monitors are the same BENQ model and batch and yet they have different colour temps and characteristics. I calibrated it with my Spyder but the OS only sees one display device in the Surround Mode due to Nvidia's low-level driver architecture. Which means I can only calibrate 1 monitor and I have to choose to decide which screen I want to be my video/photo monitor. So in premiere pro configuration, I have my output monitor setup as the same screen which I use for Lightroom as well, for which colour has been calibrated. Other screens are used for timelines and effect controls and file management. I do gaming, so I don't want to turn off the surround and it is a cumbersome process to turn it on and off as Nvidia app will ask you to close all running programs and such. But I finally figured out the right setup but the fact is that 2 of my monitors are not calibrated but it is not noticeable to the untrained eye. When I upgrade this rig, I think I will go to an ultrawide curved monitor and forget about my current 72" diagonal wide setup.
@xchelidze
10 ай бұрын
I went through same hell with calibration. Colors got messed up, I considered everything and did calibration correctly, even bought new calibrator and still had horrible colors... I could not go back and only solution I found was to force NVidia profile over calibrated, that helped. I have spyder calibrator as well, I am so disappointed.
@cwli1
7 ай бұрын
You can compare the screen with a white tissue in good sunlight. Someone with a colorimeter measured that the accuracy was extremely good if it's done well. White paper can vary so I'd say tissue is better. Then repeat every several months.
@benjaminzerhusen4941
5 жыл бұрын
Hey, some onstructive criticism: switch between calibrated and uncalibrated view a little slower, the camera takes a while to adjust, basically a second between the clicks between calibrated and not calibrated would be perfect. its possible to see the difference, but the delay of the cam just gives one a split second to see the difference. other than that, yeah it made me realize why my prints look so much darker, so thanks!
@OniMirage
5 жыл бұрын
Could be your monitors draw rate or your computer is dropping frames
@benjaminzerhusen4941
5 жыл бұрын
@@OniMirage hey onimirage, that might be an issue, but this video is at 30fps(or 24? what is the standard fps of youtube? guess 24 like a tv) When you click the quality button, you can see the "1080,1440 etc and 60fps videos have a1080*60 indicator. I have a 120fps monitor anyway, plus a gamer setup, so that is not the problem. What i was referring to, is the light sensor of his recording camera. He changes the brightness and the camera takes a.. split second to adjust to the new brightness. and he is switching it so fast, the delay of the recording camera cant quite keep up the pace. timemark is around 8:40, its not a big deal, but it would get way more "obvious" if he took like a second more between switching. as is said, constructive criticism :)
@RobertDuBois
5 жыл бұрын
You're a photographer. I'm sure you can find a better background than the windows logo =p
@FStoppers
5 жыл бұрын
I love deep blue wallpapers. The windows one is the best!
@curtis6861
5 жыл бұрын
Always a solid black background so your eyes don't get burnt 😎
@NicoleJacksonnoj100
4 жыл бұрын
This music haha! It's outrageous. Calibration should always be this epic.
@garcia2aj
5 жыл бұрын
my right ear really enjoyed this video
@michakrawiec8217
5 жыл бұрын
broken headphones bro
@FSXgta
5 жыл бұрын
@@michakrawiec8217 it's the video
@michakrawiec8217
5 жыл бұрын
@@FSXgta no, no. It just needs a little bit of calibration
@jackjude
3 жыл бұрын
the lens broke on my spyder calibrator, is it necessary for it to work properly?
@surroundphotography5165
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Will it give you the same result for video editing?
@PedroAnastazi
5 жыл бұрын
umm... interesting video but sadly you havent really taken much into consideration when lookin at calibration... considerations being the difference between sRGB vs aRGB vs Print YUV so when I heard you comparing and talking about the differences between your screens and your prints and WHY theyre different, brightness and saturation were just the surface layer of the issue... Youre actually comparing apples to oranges... and tryin to compare the differences without explaining sRGB and Adbobe RGB and print YUV and even REC709 for video, is not only pointless but also somewhat misguides people. You honestly cant simply say the differences are brightness when theyre clearly not.... and your calibration qualifies this misguided idea.. Calibration is imperitive to colour match your work to the print comparison or even screen to screen. If youre working with other photographers or with a print supply company, its not difficult to have an ICC profile sent to you which you can work with. When working pro, youre going to have clients who WILL NOT accept any deviation from the colours they specify. In fact, many companies have standards and some even give you the swatch pantone name number and RGB/YUV mix formula just to ensure there arent any mistakes... I know this might seem a little TOO detailed, but when your client is paying you for accurate colours, then you better get it right else they wont be a customer for long... From there you also jump into FB and again, discussing misguided ideas about compression which could be easily adressed. I know this was a 'sponsored" video, but omitting important information (such as colour space, social media standard guidelines to uploads, format issues etc ) which could have been used to benefit the calibration tool sales, actually compromises the integrity of this particular video and the info therein...it also keeps your viewers in the dark with a mind set on one idea (such as compression or print colour) which is not entirely accurate.. its not completely wrong either... theres just more to the issue than what you touch on... Anyone who creates web based content would (or should) know that there are ways to avoid FB compression algorithms (as in this case) based on frame size, file size and DPI output.. Sadly your video does nothing for your uneducated viewers as again comparing an FB upload as you have causes more confusion, as yes you may have simply uploaded a shot and let FB manage it (which alot of people do) , but you can avoid FBs dirty fingers from muddying up your shot quite easily... if only you told you viewers HOW... There are afew other things you said. but i'll stfu.. .I dont want anyone to get the wrong idea about why i posted... Now im all for info and kudos to you for putting a video together and managing a channel like this, Im not taking anything away from your effort or knowledge here... im simply pointing out that there are MANY more elements involved in colour than what was raised in this video. Nice video either way and some good info about the importance of calibration. Well done.
@oh-totoro
5 жыл бұрын
I have mine calibrated. The colours before calibration were just horrible, with a very strong blue colour cast. I do wonder however, what the point of calibration is, if 99.9% of devices that people view the images on are not colour calibrated. When we edit our images on a colour calibrated system, we aren't going to know how the image looks to 99.9% of people. In fact, wouldn't it be better to edit the images from a non-calibrated system, because at least our final edit will be "accurate" to more people - everybody that owns that particular monitor at least.
@tatts4life838
5 жыл бұрын
I love and hate a calibrated monitor. I finally have a monitor to shows me how my prints will look if I print them at home. The downside is when I took some photos to Target and a few other places they put their own calibrations to my photo and they looked like crap. I know this because I also took my photos to the local college and the professor printed them for me and they were perfect. So my lesson I learned is basically print from home for the best results
@satyayaya14
5 жыл бұрын
why do when we screenshot image from our macbook pro and send it to other gadget via lets say telegram or something like that the color shifted? its not same like the actual color that we see on screen
@stinkleaf
5 жыл бұрын
Ya color management is relative to the output. Print and Screen. In print there are numerous ones to consider based on your vendors spec.
@ADCentras
4 жыл бұрын
It's imposibble to calibrate two side by side monitors the same. Calibration it self ends up different every time with spyder, depanding on massive ammount of factors. That sucks..
@brianminkc
5 жыл бұрын
Monitors are always brighter than prints because your screen is illuminated by backlights. Prints are viewed off reflective light only. I just bump the brightness on a photo for printing.
@markjching
5 жыл бұрын
What's that bracelet on your right wrist?
@RobX86
5 жыл бұрын
While I certainly understand the importance of calibrated colors, especially when doing a lot of prints, what really kept me away from calibrating my monitors so far is the price, considering they're sort of a one-time-use device. I really don't get why Spyder doesn't add a couple USB slots or such to the thing so it actually serves a useful purpose after calibrating your monitor instead of just collecting dust in the shelf until you feel that, for whatever reason, you need to re-calibrate the monitor. Also, the fact that the hardware for both the Pro and the Elite version is probably the same and the available features are probably only software-limited, based on whether you get a Pro or Elite activation key, is kinda off-putting. All in all, a device like this doesn't really seem to be worth it to me personally. Then again, I'm no professional photo- or videographer, so... yeah.
@qc1651
5 жыл бұрын
How do they look when you print? How much difference?
@maluraq
3 жыл бұрын
Having used the xrite equivalent for years, I can't imagine working with uncalibrated screens in video or photography. I'm shocked how many people don't bother.
@Finite-Tuning
2 жыл бұрын
A-men brother, same here! People just don't know what they're missing or by how much with an uncalibrated screen. Cheers 🍻.
@Jeff_Lathrop
Ай бұрын
So many people deliver only to youtube, where calibration is not really necessary.
@maluraq
Ай бұрын
@@Jeff_Lathrop that's not true at all, I can't imagine why you'd believe that
@Jeff_Lathrop
Ай бұрын
@@maluraq experience!
@maluraq
Ай бұрын
@@Jeff_Lathrop not an actual answer. Make an observation about how it doesn't matter. I watch a lot of content and can tell when someone switches cameras and they have different balances and it's jarring. So yeah. Experience? SMH
@kichaa13
5 жыл бұрын
the datacolor process for calibration on my ancient spyder 3 is the same so what exactly did you do to brick a pc 10 yrs ago?
@jimgernon7452
3 ай бұрын
It shows up clearly on my iPad. Cool.
@DavidJFulde
5 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue is that windows is not colour managed from a pixel level, but rather an application level. I use PC's now but I do miss the total OS-level colour management
@jordandenby7472
3 жыл бұрын
Windows photo viewer always makes photos look weird, it applies a weird filter to the photos to try and make them clearer. you're best looking at them on LR.
@twizzle1952
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting,informative video. Many thanks. One question, If you calibrate your monitor shouldn’t you calibrate your laptop as well?
@CristianCalhoun
5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! Sorry, what lavalier mic do you use?
@ison5622
5 жыл бұрын
you only need to know about colour management, calibration, creating custom ICC/ICM profiles for your printer / inks and paper types if you are a professional, so you should be fine without calibration :)
@zangdaarrmortpartout
5 жыл бұрын
So is that better than the X-rite iDisplay1 or not ? The X-rite has an option to measure the ambient light before it does the calibration, does the X Elite has the same kind of option ?
@MikeMaryFitnessDuo
3 жыл бұрын
Windows had nothing to do with it.I use spyder color since 10 years and the process is exactly the same, the software UI didn’t change at all. Probably you were using different profile per software and not using a single profile managed by windows (7 or XP)
@IraklyShanidze00X
5 жыл бұрын
I remember trying to calibrate a TFT matrix of an IBM laptop in 2003 and being amazed with an atrociously awful job that Spider has done. Yet, undoing it took just a few seconds. Most likely, your spider was much more evil than my spider.
@AsheshRajbansh
5 жыл бұрын
You have to use color savvy softwares to have true color, likePhotoshop or any other photo editing pro software. Windows picture viewer, Fax viewer like that won't give you true color. Calibrating your monitor will not make color accurate for those generic Windows softwares. But you'll see true color on Mac with every and any softwares.
@WhittyPics
5 жыл бұрын
Macs seem to be better to real color out of the box than a PC. It is the brightness I get off. You are right about most of us having our monitors too bright
@nordic5490
5 жыл бұрын
Dennis W bullshit. The colour is all about the monitor, not the pc.
@thepiecesfit5049
5 жыл бұрын
Don't blame the tool for the lack of knowledge or understanding. Some apps are just not color managed. Most modern day browsers are color managed. It's not a perfect system but its a must for print/monitor consistency. xRite makes superior products in my opinion and have been in the business longer than Spyder. Get an i1 Display Pro instead :)
@bjnslc
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you're serious about color. You also will avoid Datacolor's inferior sensors.
@bjnslc
5 жыл бұрын
Also, do some homework and learn about important concepts like intent. A simple calibration is just the tip of the color management iceberg.
@Fojony1985
3 жыл бұрын
And can you share this profile created to test it, i can't buy SpyderX :(
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