Resurrection of the Daleks was one of my favourites as a kid. I just loved the world building, the density of the plot and the dynamics of all the different characters. The Daleks ontop was a cherry on the ice. But yeah, it is kinda bleak 😭
@dreadtheweekend
Күн бұрын
Refreshing to hear a story reviewed without any references to production values or actors’ performances and just concentrating on the narrative.
@vinnycochrane5139
Күн бұрын
I find it amazing that the term “children’s TV” has gained such currency. There are many things we should protect kids from, but scary and violent fiction is arguably a preventative measure against maladjustment in adulthood.
@dariowestern
Күн бұрын
Dr. Who is meant for spotty nerdy whippersnapper boys aged 8 - 16.
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
Күн бұрын
It introduces children to fear in a (usually) controlled and safe environment. Children have always enjoyed scary stories. I've met people whose parents never let them be scared on childhood. They're rarely, in my experience, the best "copers" in adulthood.
@Loehengrin
7 сағат бұрын
Doctor Who was never a children's show. It was family viewing
@vinnycochrane5139
7 сағат бұрын
@@Loehengrin Yes, true, and it was made by the drama department. “Family viewing” implies a baseline of suitability for kids, and its popularity came from how strangely transgressive it was. Kids love seeing things that their parents might think is too edgy for them.
@Farsight-nc1ib
Күн бұрын
Resurrection was a very good story, the plot was a little garbled at times, but it was so creepy and scary. The poisoned gas victims scared the life out of me as a kid even though it was just Rice Krispies lol
@MidnightChimey
Күн бұрын
I always think Resurrection of the Daleks and Caves of Androzani make for a compelling mini-arc, those two stories were just made to be watched back to back. I always imagine when the Doctor is desperately trying to save Peri in the final episode a voice clip of Tegan from her departure "too many good people have died today..."
@KRAFTWERK2K6
Күн бұрын
I agree, this is one of the most BLEAK and darkest Doctor Who stories ever. Not a single laugh, just death and destruction. But you know what? It totally fits and resonates with the whole Dalek theme. They are not sparkling rays of sunshine. They are just oppression and force. The whole vibe of the story has a lot of hopelessness and it actually fits. And also the last story with Tegan as Companion of the doctor. Her departure was heartbreaking but it makes sense.
@gumdeo
Күн бұрын
This story has excellent characterization of the Daleks. Cunning, ruthless, infinitely ambitious and totally treacherous.
@aliservan7188
Күн бұрын
The daleks in this story were ACTUALLY frightening. Not really had that since
@Farsight-nc1ib
21 сағат бұрын
@@aliservan7188 they were in Rembrance
@aliservan7188
16 сағат бұрын
@@Farsight-nc1ib They were definitely sinister, and it captured their military fear, like showing Nazis, but not sure they were intimately frightening like here. Still a cracking story though
@Farsight-nc1ib
13 сағат бұрын
@@aliservan7188 absolutely brilliant story, I loved the Special Weapons Dalek!
@aliservan7188
13 сағат бұрын
@@Farsight-nc1ib YES! We were talking about that in school for weeks
@Farsight-nc1ib
10 сағат бұрын
@@aliservan7188 best Dalek ever!
@xzempty_8387
2 күн бұрын
Im a big horror guy and love lots of death and violence in my DW stories, i love really traumatic stories that stick with you and i find this story really fulfills that. Its what i wish the show had the ambition for more often.
@andylikesstuffchannel
2 күн бұрын
It's a great episode so much happens also you get crazy characters all through the story definitely one of Davidsons best
@timleopardxolo
Күн бұрын
'Resurrection Of The Daleks' was once described as 'the single worst script ever submitted to "Doctor Who" by it's writer, Eric Saward. I still love it, though. Davison is never less than brilliant, Terry Molloy is awesome as Davros, and director Matthew Robinson makes it look good on screen.
@normanby100
12 сағат бұрын
The differences between a gifted writer like Holmes and someone like Seward speak volumes. Both set up numerous subplots but Seward is unable to resolve them satisfactorily and just kills everyone off arbitrarily in the second part of Resurrection. Downbeat endings are fine, but after a while, you just feel emotionally numbed to the carnage and switch off.
@alexlazebat839
7 сағат бұрын
was warhead different i presume they killed everyone so tegan had a reason to leave, fang rock was so the doctor could quote a line from a poem
@IshmaelSkyes
2 сағат бұрын
I think what Resurrection really needed was another draft
@alunrundle162
Күн бұрын
He POINTS the handgun. He doesn't fire it (as everyone else does)
@Farsight-nc1ib
Күн бұрын
The Fifth at his best
@michaelwebster8666
Күн бұрын
I do like Ressurection, it's a return to form after the disappointing Destiny. Every Doctor has to face The Daleks, it's a right of passage. It has it's flaws absolutely, some of the acting from the lesser characters could be better. It's well directed, but I have to be honest the body count is over the top. Why did Lytton have to kill his two bodyguards after he's beamed down to the warehouse just before he re-joins his 'police' colleagues!? All the people on the ship holding Davros eventually get killed or blown up. Nevertheless it's also a reflection of the time it was made, they were having to compete with big budget US action shows, The A Team springs to mind. Another excellent video Watcher 👍
@TheWatcherOnWho
Күн бұрын
Thank you
@emerycandy326
Күн бұрын
The Daleks were modeled after the Nazis. It's hard not to do a dark story about them.
@ptonpc
Күн бұрын
Nowadays, they would never even attempt to make something like this.
@Mark-nh2hs
2 күн бұрын
Caves of Androzani has a very similar bleak atmosphere and the entire large cast dies - except for Peri but she came close. The 5th Doctor final season gets progressively darker as it goes on - Frontios is another example of dark themes.
@dariowestern
Күн бұрын
Not quite true: Krau Timmin was the only character not to die in it apart from Peri. It's one of the best ever Dr. Who stories.
@alexlazebat839
Күн бұрын
but caves has brilliant cliffhangers i think its the best doctor who story ever and not even my favourite doctor
@Farsight-nc1ib
Күн бұрын
@@dariowesternyeah, but she wasn't that pleasant either!
@Farsight-nc1ib
Күн бұрын
Caves of Androzani was a fantastic story, Davison gave his best performance ever and it had the greatest regeneration scene in the history of the show. A Robert Holmes masterclass!
@alexlazebat839
22 сағат бұрын
@@Farsight-nc1ib yes and the cliffhangers are great
@joshuajoshua2732
Күн бұрын
To be honest I don't think it was dark enough except for "Resurrection of the Daleks" that for me was a top notch and a risk taking story which I admire. Also the real world is not a pretty place and it's good to bring that into the show.
@Ibbisin2
Күн бұрын
One of the very best.
@thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527
Күн бұрын
I'd say the 1985 season is the bleakest and I'm not surprised the BBC wanted to cancel the show as I like Eric Saward by Revelation of the Daleks is unpleasant as is Attack of the Cybermen, Vengeance on Varos is just sadistic in parts and the Two doctor is revolting in parts, it's only Mark of the Rani and Time Lash that are a slight improvement.
@davidturner4024
Күн бұрын
There is some stylish flashy direction in this story unfortunately let down by awful acting, mainly from the supporting cast. The script doesn’t help either with cod dialogue and over the top acting particularly from characters who get shot by the Daleks. A shame as the intentions are good, It is however just a poor ripoff of Earthshock. I have to say this was an anomaly in an otherwise good swan song season for Peter.
@MrSontaran3
Күн бұрын
I find a lot of the characters in this are totally unlikeable, and unrelatable. The human characters, and Davros... yes, a very very bleak story, and one that is hard to return to.
@badwolf66
Күн бұрын
I think when it comes to NuWho the episode "Turn Left" would come a close second.
@stevenredpath9332
5 сағат бұрын
Peter Davidson run as the Doctor was a much darker period than Tom Bakers’. I still remember this one mainly because of the policeman killers.
@TheGerkuman
10 сағат бұрын
It's interesting, and refreshing, to see someone critiquing and liking an Eric Saward serial. Usually fans either uncritically love his stuff or hate it. But I think it's more nuanced than that. He's a flawed writer, and really should not have been made script editor (IMO) but he has some really good ideas and his own style. (That being said, I think it's somewhat telling that my favourite 6th Doctor story, Vengance on Varos, was written by someone else. Someone wrote a Saward-esque story better than he could!)
@stephenreed2093
3 сағат бұрын
When I was younger, this was one of the first stories I had on VHS and I watched it loads and thought it was great, but now I’m older I think it’s just horrible. Nastiest moment being Prof. Laird getting shot in the back, running scared and screaming. Just totally gratuitous and mean spirited.
@MrLorenzovanmatterho
11 сағат бұрын
I think yes, it got too violent, hence why they toned things down significantly by the 7th era, Remembrance has plenty of action but is so different in outlook. Even Revelation had the comedy relief funeral staff surviving with a suggestion of hope and Earthshock had some of the ship's crew and troopers surviving (assuming the Doctor went back and rescued them, something that always bothered me). Horror of Fang Rock probably comes closest.
@WayneSpillett
20 сағат бұрын
I would take issue with the description of Doctor Who starting as a children's programme in 1963. You have to understand the difference in the role of television then compared with today. If the typical home had a television at all, it had one, and it occupied Pride of place in the living room. Then, everything except the "Watch With Mother" content aimed at younger children, all programmes were "family viewing", the expectation being that the family would be watching together.
@supercompooper
Күн бұрын
The current doctor is complete sugar-free chemicals with no actual real wow. I don't understand why it's this way.
@judgegiant8951
Күн бұрын
why wouldn't it be dark, it is based on Professor Quatermass after all and none of those films were a ray of sunshine
@BrianTenBeers
Күн бұрын
Is that Ron Ely in the photo ?
@TheTimeProphet
Күн бұрын
He isn't an opponent to guns. He has held a gun at least 32 times. I have proved this in my videos.
@Farsight-nc1ib
Күн бұрын
Only if absolutely necessary
@TheTimeProphet
Күн бұрын
@@Farsight-nc1ib Tom Baker's 4th Doctor was very knowledgable on guns. He even stated the name of a gun he was holding before fighting the giant underground rats.
@Farsight-nc1ib
Күн бұрын
@@TheTimeProphet made in Birmingham, I know. The Doctor has a wide range of knowledge, not just guns.
@the_flyattractor8656
Күн бұрын
Love the Story. It does have its issues though. Happy to have gotten the Target Novels of Sawards two Dalek Stories to complete the collection, but the little Additions he adds to the stories...like the Tegan moment at the end of the book...
@dregoth22
Күн бұрын
What did he add with Tegan?
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
Күн бұрын
Adding my comment in the hope of finding out what he did with/to/for Tegan.
@the_flyattractor8656
Күн бұрын
@@dregoth22 *spoilers* In the whole book He adds lots of useless background info and characters (same as in his Twin Dilemma & Revelation) but the big bit is at the end , He just gives Tegan Super Powers and she flys off into the sky ala Superman. Complete WTF moment!?
@the_flyattractor8656
Күн бұрын
@@Benjiesbeenbetter. spoilers In the whole book He adds lots of useless background info and characters (same as in his Twin Dilemma & Revelation) but the big bit is at the end , He just gives Tegan Super Powers and she flys off into the sky ala Superman. Complete WTF moment!?
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
12 сағат бұрын
@@the_flyattractor8656 I've slept since I read your reply, and I still can't think of an appropriate response to that ending. Thank you, I now know of three books I need to avoid.
@sadako24
Күн бұрын
My main impressions of this story were always that the dialogue of the bickering station crew was utterly eurgh and did nothing to elicit my sympathies. By the end of my first watch of it (aged 15 in 1997, when it was a rareity on video that I was honestly excited to discover) I distinctly remember feeling like I didn't love the show anymore for a while, that I'd outgrown it and that Star Trek was more emotionally mature. I just found the violence of it crude, gratuitous, and repetitive. It just began to feel like all the worst cliches of the show, but worse was that it all felt so nihilistic by the end with the Fifth Doctor being (again) useless at preventing the antagonists taking the entire guest cast with them when they perish. I think Tat Wood said it best that when the whole story is just one of continuous dying of characters throughout, then the final massacre isn't really any climax. And that's the point really. When you abuse death too much as a dramatic tool, it really lends the audience to stop trusting the writer knows what they're doing, and as such they stop caring. Which I largely did. Yes there were bleak stories in the Tom Baker/Philip Hinchcliffe period, but never quite this repugnant about it. But like Warriors of the Deep, this just felt like it all had a misanthropic pointlessness to it (with some pretensions that the pointlessness was meant to be the point to it somehow). It felt charmless. Frustratingly there are some gem Davison moments in there, and moments the era had cried out for and would feel incomplete without. But it still feels an exhausting mess overall and epitomises in hindsight so much of what went wrong with the show in that decade of poor management. In hindsight it just looks to me like The Five Doctors truly was the end of the classic show's innocence.
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
Күн бұрын
Peter Davison's era was characterised by bickering. It was at times unfathomable as to why these people travelled together or why the Doctor didn't just pretend to be popping back to the TARDIS for something and just fly off without them. In retrospect, it seems to have been an arduous three years. Little wonder that the Fifth Doctor so often seemed to be at thevend of his tether, or that the Sixth Doctor almost immediately decided to become a hermit.
@Farsight-nc1ib
Күн бұрын
Can't agree with you on Star Trek. Most of the Next Gen episodes bored me to tears.
@sadako24
23 сағат бұрын
@@Benjiesbeenbetter. I think it was JNT's soap sensibilities that insisted on this idea of turning the Tardis into a domestic sphere characterised by constant drama. I did once read him say in The Unfolding Text that he felt there was something more emotionally engaging about Tegan storming out of the Tardis after a fight with the Doctor to take us into the outdoor action, than just a routine case of the Doctor and Romana deciding "oh let's go explore". The problem for me though is thinking back on the Pertwee stories that dealt with wars and conflicts that the Doctor had to mediate for peace in. That era gave you reverence for the Doctor's shrewd peacemaking abilities. Davison's era however undermines that by showing him unable to keep the peace between his companions on a good day. Adric's turncoat behaviour in Four to Doomsday was the hardest to take and really did cut against the idea that this should've been a bonded group by now given the adversity they'd overcome together, but it's like suddenly none of that mattered. Very hard to buy. I hear a lot of fans argue that Adric doesn't deserve the hate he gets, but it's almost as if the writers wanted us to hate him. Davison definitely deserved better.
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
11 сағат бұрын
@@sadako24 "JNT's soap sensibilities" - absolutely right. He kept pestering the BBC management to let him revive "Compact", an early 1960s soap set in a magazine publisher that my mother described as "bloody awful" when I asked if she had seen it. Some writers and producers, usually with limited understanding of character dynamics, take the "Drama is conflict" principle to mean that every scene should involve bickering and ill feeling. That completely ignores the need for shading. Straightforward differences of opinion on where to go or what to do are as much conflict as is usually needed in routine scenes between the Doctor and his companions. But under JNT, virtually every scene (or at least what seemed like every scene) involved insults, accusations and, as you point out, the Doctor's complete inability to bang their heads together and say "Pack it in or you're walking home". I collected the DVDs of all the first three Doctors' stories and most of the Tom Baker ones. Pertwee was and still is _my Doctor_ and his relationships with the Brigadier, Liz, Jo and Sarah Jane are perfect examples of how to have interesting dynamics with conflicts that arise naturally, drive the plot and develop the characters. I knew that there were a lot of Peter Davison ones that I never wanted to see again but got the ones I recalled fondly. I was surprised and disappointed by how ineffectual the writing made him seem. I ended up keeping only two of his stories. It was only in Caves of Androzani that I felt we saw his true potential realised.
@sci-fyguy7767
Күн бұрын
You think this is bleak, have you ever watched the tv series “Millennium”?
@TheWatcherOnWho
Күн бұрын
I have
@MrLorenzovanmatterho
11 сағат бұрын
Or War of the Worlds?
@davidbull7210
Күн бұрын
I find this story gratuitous for the sake of it and it has some pretty poor acting. Revelation is superior. Equally nasty but it at least balances the horror with comedy and has far better performances (Jenny Tomasin aside)
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
Күн бұрын
Casting was a major problem in the eighties because of John Nathan Turner's obsession with bringing "Showbiz pizazz" into the series. This led to bizarre casting decisions such as turning down *_Peter Cushing_* in favour of Leonard Sachs.
@davidbull7210
Күн бұрын
@@Benjiesbeenbetter. The big name actors were mostly good. Nicholas Parsons was superb. Even Beryl did her best. The poor acting in this one comes from the inexperienced actors at the start, diverse though they were.
@andrewroberts299
20 сағат бұрын
@@Benjiesbeenbetter.Peter Cushing? I wasn’t aware he was considered/approached. Mind you, Borusa wasn’t in much of Arc of Infinity, so it would have done Peter a disservice to his huge talent had he taken on such a meagre part.
@andrewroberts299
20 сағат бұрын
@@davidbull7210 Personally I thought the worst performance in Resurrection came from Rodney Bewes as Stein. I used to love Bewes and James Bolam in the BBC’s sitcom “Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads?,” but in this story you could see that Bewes’ acting was better suited to comedic roles rather than dramatic ones. As a supposed tough guy mercenary, Bewes portrayed a soldier who was anything but. I just thought his acting was terrible. In fact, I think the whole story is terrible. Our three regulars are fine, as always (even though Tegan’s decision to leave was a ridiculous one and smacked of the writer not giving the character a proper reason to leave) and of the supporting cast, only Maurice Colbourne as Lytton and Terry Molloy as Davros came out of it with any praise. For me, “Revelation of the Daleks,” a year later was far better than this one, with an excellent supporting cast and a decent story. Such a shame that Peter Davison’s only Dalek story should turn out to be so bad, that its writer, Eric Saward, has criticised it and basically disowned it for the mess that it is.
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
11 сағат бұрын
@@andrewroberts299 JNT decided the veteran movie star with a career spanning half a century wasn't "Showbiz" enough for the glittery whirl of 80s Who. He also believed that casting Leonard Sachs would broaden the viewer demographic. The idea being that fans of the Sachs-compered "The Goid Old Days" would tune in to see him in a dramatic role. He thought that fans of late 19th, early 20th century music hall entertainment would be entranced by a story heavily reliant on Timelord lore and featuring bickering teenagers.
@malcomflibbleghast8140
Күн бұрын
dark ?? never been to manchester ?
@TheWatcherOnWho
Күн бұрын
I have been to Manchester many times
@malcomflibbleghast8140
Күн бұрын
@@TheWatcherOnWho poor you. hope you have an easier time, in the next life.
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