I think what I needed for this episode was CONTEXT...
@WitchdoctorOKC
10 ай бұрын
Context for which part? You’ll want to check out what material is available on the Toymaker from when he faced Hartnell’s Doctor.
@HollywoodandWine101
10 ай бұрын
The regeneration sequence on first glance is very… meh. But to give tennant a happy ending… makes it all worth it to me.
@cwel1978
10 ай бұрын
RTD acknowledges that fans will worry that Ncuti’s TARDIS is a ‘new’ TARDIS. But says that in a future episode there is proof that Ncuti’s TARDIS is the same TARDIS.
@chazo1367
10 ай бұрын
@@cwel1978 Pretty sure Ncuti is from the future of the timeline pulled back because of the Toymaker killing 14 when 14 was meant to die later, so this is time correcting things and they will remerge later or 14 goes on to become the Curator from Day of the Doctor.
@cwel1978
10 ай бұрын
@@chazo1367 yep I think that also
@baeleth
10 ай бұрын
My head canon is that Tenant's Doctor eventually becomes The Curator.
@WitchdoctorOKC
10 ай бұрын
Also fun to know: the Toymaker was originally portrayed by Michael Gough. A lot of Americans will recognize him as the actor who portrayed Alfred Pennyworth in the Batman movies starting with Michael Keaton’s first turn as Batman and ending with George Clooney’s Batman and Robin.
@Youspoonybard1
10 ай бұрын
And then in a full circle moment in the Show Gotham, Sean Pertwee played Alfred!
@ThePonderer
10 ай бұрын
I gotta admire the sheer brass cajones on RTD to attempt giving the Doctor a happy ending to 60 years of stories while still allowing the adventures to continue at the same time. Talk about having your cake and eating it too.
@granddaddyotaku636
10 ай бұрын
My guess is that 14 eventually becomes the Curator :D
@kadegetslaid634
10 ай бұрын
@@granddaddyotaku636most likely
@explorer47422
10 ай бұрын
That's the great thing about Doctor Who, usurping expectations
@asdasasdas3476
10 ай бұрын
@@granddaddyotaku636 Oh that is an interesting idea let the main line of doctors have their own original actors while the tennet dynasty can allow for cameos of former actors .. truthly I would love to see a little more Capaldi
@akbar1772
10 ай бұрын
@@granddaddyotaku636this THIS IS IT. I was iffy on bi regen but now you’ve changed my perspective. If they go through with this route that’s awesome. Can bring back multiple versions of the doctor again and just retire and become the curator. Whilst 15 is main canon timeline and continues to live.
@PandezPanda
10 ай бұрын
if ncuti got the tie and underpants, then david is going commando under those pants >.>
@darrenrichardson6146
10 ай бұрын
Honestly, it'll take time to really sink in the realisation of what this Bi-regeneration will entail, but it certainly opens up a world of possibilities, including the theory Tennant's Doctor is the one destined to become The Curator. It also makes me wonder if The Master has also undergone a Bi-Regeneration, it'd explain why the 13th's Doctor's Master didn't seem like a continuation of Missy's timeline, perhaps Simm's Master tried to regenerate differently and prevent Missy from becoming a reality and split him into two as well....
@King_Zangetsu12820
10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind that tbh, but I like the idea of bigeneration is veryyyy unique and was just a myth. As if the chance of bigeneration is 0.01%
@TJUC123
10 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!!!!
@Saxgod
10 ай бұрын
OR this explains The Curator meaning he’s another bi regeneration doctor from another reality
@mjm3091
10 ай бұрын
Tbh, Spy Master does get a reasonable continuation in other parts of the franchise. He could easily be just an iteration after Simms and before Misty. But I believe in Big Finish - Missy actually regenerates into Lumiat, the actual good Master incarnation that goes against her title of the Master. Which ultimately is cut short by other iteration of the Master, who makes sure she gets offed (ironically Lumiat used 13th Doctor likeness to blend and play as Doctor). Later on the destruction of Galifrey and truths hidden in Matrix make Master mad once again. It's not perfect explanation, but not a bad one. Ultimately Spy Master was chosen, because Chibnail felt like we shouldn't know so much about Master. His iterations were always scattered and commonly out of order. It makes more sense than him staying linear alongside Doctor.
@mjm3091
10 ай бұрын
@@SaxgodI still think that Curator is just another later incarnation that also decided to sit down for a moment. It's more like this incarnation taught Doctor that self-care is important.
@leebeckett8980
10 ай бұрын
Your utter confusion and mixed feelings exactly matched mine haha.
@UserName-vb4lg
10 ай бұрын
Doctor: I finally have a family. Susan: 😮
@julieeverett7442
8 ай бұрын
hes always had family!!
@granddaddyotaku636
10 ай бұрын
You know what, Maybe David Tennant/14th eventually ends up becoming The Curator in "Day of the Doctor" :D It would be a good in-universe explanation for his human-like aging as well as why he's not traveling anymore Anyways, I liked this episode. I wish bi-generation would have been addressed maybe a season or two ago, because it felt a little random. but im glad that 14 had a happy ending, and 15 is still The Doctor so it works in the end for me
@UnitedFan2
10 ай бұрын
Or the 14th becomes the Valeyard
@Zaedin710
10 ай бұрын
evidently Russel said that when this happened, all doctors throughout time bio-regenerated, which would explain how some versions are older than before, essentially every time the doctor regenerated, the original left themself behind to grow old and the new one went off on the adventures.
@h0lly_blue
10 ай бұрын
@@Zaedin710 which explains the Tales from the TARDIS series
@somerandomguy2073
10 ай бұрын
@zaedin710 I mean, he didn't CONFIRM that. It's just an idea that he likes and kind of spit-balled in the behind the scenes stuff, but it isn't necessarily the set in stone case. I kind of hope it is, though, because I quite like that idea.
@EsporHB
10 ай бұрын
To me it feels like the Doctor needed a therapy session. And Tennants Doctor 1.0 had therapy - which he so much needed with all that pain and sadness in his hearts - and we already see the result of that therapy. And I think its perfect. The 15th doctor doesn't have to bear that weight anymore but also they don't have to show the long time he needs to heal.
@savmiller8327
10 ай бұрын
I think you’re overthinking it. The TARDIS and the doctor are always different every time. I don’t think the duplication makes Ncuti’s doctor or tardis any less real. Retirement doctor is just another off shoot like the metacrisis doctor who is with Rose. Yeah technically he’s still a timelord and he has a tardis, but he’s not really the doctor anymore (we’ve established that’s a title not a name). I love the idea someone else put in the comments that the retirement doctor regenerates and “revisits the old favorites” eventually becoming the fourth doctor we see in the 50th. Because that was never properly explained.
@matthewevans4337
10 ай бұрын
This idea about the caretaker of the undergallery now makes so much sense.
@Enivri
10 ай бұрын
Honestly that would be great, having this version of the Doctor become the Caretaker.
@NottJoeyOfficial
10 ай бұрын
You know, I just though about the idea after this comment, what if the Curator from the 50th is this retired Doctor with his Tardis
@blackhallstrainingvideosan3880
10 ай бұрын
Only the fourteenth doctor is still the real doctor as the 15th doctor says they are doing rehab backwards, that he is only OK because the 14th doctor heals himself. So the 14th must heal himself by resting & then regenerate or merge with the 15th at some future point. If not the 15th will always be the duplicate
@h0lly_blue
10 ай бұрын
@@Enivri I mean it makes the Curator thing make so much more sense
@SupaKen74
10 ай бұрын
For the record, I did not have a head-cannon on this. I did not spend a millisecond trying to figure out the subtle nuances of how this works. And somehow that made me enjoy this so much more. And ANYONE who says this in ANY WAY diminishes the new doctor, they were biased to begin with. By the way- Tardises are not uncommon. They were all over Galifray. Having Master had one, Me has one. Having two Doctors Having one doesn't bother be at all. Even the doctor in another universe who is human has one growing or something. YOU. ARE. OVERTHINKING. THIS. and it will take away your enjoyment of it.
@jackwarren5608
10 ай бұрын
As someone who enjoys Tennant but is very excited for Ncuti and thinks Tennant is slightly overrated, I am fully able to think this WILL shadow Ncuti because it just gives toxic Tennant fans too much
@SupaKen74
10 ай бұрын
@jackwarren5608 I don't agree. They would have thought that (if they are toxic) no matter how it ended. This episode showcased 15 in amazing and unexpected ways. He was more mature and older than 14 and he was in charge. His origin was better then most others, who generally start disorganized and broken. And that was likely Because of the bigeneration. I thought it was brilliant and I think that this only increased the anticipation and enthusiasm for Christmas.
@danielfrench753
10 ай бұрын
I actually really like what RTD has done and I love the way David performed when Ncuti appeared, he didn't steal the limelight. I know there will be some people who won't agree with this, but the doctor still just technically regenerate, it wasn't that controversial to me, unlike Chibnall's timeless child story line. But I think I am going to love Ncuti and NPH was just a whirlwind of fun in this!!
@williampanic8292
10 ай бұрын
Having been back to rewatch a couple of times, (that hasn't happened for a while!) and once with the in-vision commentary - it seems Russell's intent is that when the Doctor bigenerated, the TIMELINES bigenerated, thus creating a "splinter timeline" allowing 14 and 15 to exist together momentarily (until the splinter falls out, basically). He also suggests that this could have a ripple effect back through the Doctors timeline, allowing all the Doctors to both exist and not exist concurrently (as 7 says in the new "Memory TARDIS" minisodes (also written by Russell of course) - "timelines are funny things; in some I regenerate, in others I don't"), with 7 waking up in the morgue, 3 waking up on the UNIT lab floor etc - in splinter timelines. This actually makes sense (if you squint a bit) - we follow the main timeline in the show, so we are never witness to the events that occur in the splinter timelines, until now. At the point of regeneration we switch perspective from the main to splinter timeline, (which has never happened before, but has now happened every time. Wibbly wobbly.) so we stay with 14. The only hiccup I can see is that there is now a chunk (maybe only hours, maybe days) of 15's post regeneration period missing from the main timeline... but I'm sure it'll never be mentioned again!
@lykan2
10 ай бұрын
I loved it, we gat Nucti as the New Doctor and 14th and to an extent 10 can be happy, he has Donna back, with all her memories, he can settle down (the theory already is the HE is becoming the Curator) I wasn't ready to say goodbye to Tennant again, or Donna. But both are alright, happy. I am Happy. And this way, they both could always come back if the Doctor should need help.
@Spodogo
10 ай бұрын
Oh wow that makes sense
@yester30
10 ай бұрын
Curator idea is fine by me
@friendlyotaku9525
10 ай бұрын
Nah I dont think he has anything to do with becoming the curator. This is just rehab and eventually 14 will regenerate and become 15 and that's where we see Ncuti's Doctor!
@King_Zangetsu12820
10 ай бұрын
@@friendlyotaku9525nahh I doubt that. Each face is uniquely chosen by each doctor at specific times and events and history. . Should 14 regenerate again, he would probably have a different face.
@friendlyotaku9525
10 ай бұрын
@King_Zangetsu12820 the episode says otherwise as 15 mentions he is fine because 14 gets better!
@riveracrobat8393
10 ай бұрын
I think when 15 split the tardis, he kind of duplicated it which means it probably is the same tardis in a way.
@danzabran
10 ай бұрын
It’s basically splitting your head and heart, David tennant is the heart and ncuti is the head, still being you if you get what I mean the same. Like having a twin
@blazingocean4206
10 ай бұрын
They gave our old Doctor (Tennant) a good ending. He gets to retire (become curator later?) on Earth while his next incarnation regenerates as an exact copy but “younger” with his own Tardis which is an exact copy of the old Tardis similar to the Doctor. The next series is called “Season 1” with that Disney budget behind it. Is a clean slate but still carrying on with the same memories.
@Domgo-d1w
10 ай бұрын
If you think about it, this changes nothing, becuase as soon as 14 gets in the TARDIS and time travels, he just becomes the same as every other doctor, alive in another time and can exist with any other Doctor.
@stefanashley
10 ай бұрын
This was the issue with leaks, ruined what should have been a mind-blowing moment. I felt the same and was more worried. I think it worked better than I thought. Loved your reaction as I always do!
@King_Zangetsu12820
10 ай бұрын
I did hear of the leak, but thankfully I didn't rlly think much about it. So I was veryyy surprised when it actually happened
@nathancarty1
10 ай бұрын
Luckily I avoided the leak so was a great moment for me
@alittlelife8650
10 ай бұрын
the master being the toymakers gold tooth😭😭😭
@seulgisong4205
10 ай бұрын
Don’t forget someone took that tooth.
@alittlelife8650
10 ай бұрын
@@seulgisong4205 yh but who😂
@ararazul9638
10 ай бұрын
Of course they're fast forwarding to the Doctor feeling better. "The Doctor gets Therapy" doesn't exactly make for gripping and engaging television.
@ShiningWolf88
10 ай бұрын
The thing I loved the most is 14 got a home and the 15th is The Doctor Healed. He can let all the pain go. I love this. Also the toymaker seemed to be able to literally do everything if he wanted so the 15th used that.
@ComickerSeikatsu
10 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that Tennant regenerates into Ncuti’s doctor in the future but the toy maker messing with reality causes the regeneration to happen a lot earlier and slightly goes wrong, creating the Bi regeneration.
@HollywoodandWine101
10 ай бұрын
The toy maker in this really gave me evil Q vibes and I was here for it!
@julieeverett7442
8 ай бұрын
um the toymaker was 1st doctors very early in his run, late 63/ early 64 if my memory serves LOOOOOONG before next gen. But since the toymaker is also one of the guardians, like the black and white guardians of the classic series, if you want to cross universes, being a Q is possible I suppose
@Andyapp
10 ай бұрын
I loved it. And It's so emotional that the Doctor that loved and lost the most on screen ended up with a family ❤️♥️❤️♥️
@josefschiltz2192
10 ай бұрын
First Doctor: "Oh! So my dear boy. You didn't know I could do that? You've a lot to learn, now stop quibbling! Mm, hm,hm,hm! As for the ship, it's plasticity is infinite! Now, didn't I tell you . The TARDIS: "Planar bifurcation? I didn't know I could do that! Would do that! Will do that? I want to bite someone! . . . . Or was that kiss? Oh, that's beautiful!"
@GoliathWarfare
10 ай бұрын
Russell said in the commentary that Ncuti has the original TARDIS and there'll be evidence in an upcoming episode
@icon_uk624
10 ай бұрын
They're _both_ the old TARDIS, it was the leftover "God energy" from the Toymaker that let 15 duplicate it. 15 is the Doctor, 14 is the Doctor
@mpg272727
10 ай бұрын
This episode really spiced up my life
@robertmcghintheorca49
10 ай бұрын
I see what you did there! That was hilarious!
@DGA_Kenyon
10 ай бұрын
I think the Tennant Doctor becomes the Curator at the Museum
@kellifranklin9872
10 ай бұрын
I loved this episode! This means that Tennant can come back anytime and I love that! I wanted David to stick around and he is. I’m very happy with this outcome.
@keithgriner61
10 ай бұрын
So this is why The Curator existed in the 50th. Can't have two Doctors running around the universe
@GreyGamer73
10 ай бұрын
It's the same T.A.R.D.I.S.. As Tennent lives his life and heals and changes, he puts a jukebox in the T.A.R.D.I.S.. When he bigenerates out of himself as the new Doctor, he's also gone back in time BEFORE the T.A.R.D.I.S. bigenerates with him. It always changes with the Doctor so it makes total sense and completely fits. To me anyway.
@thombruce
10 ай бұрын
Oh, I like the idea that Tennant settles down (as we see) and eventually installs a jukebox ‘cause y’know… it’s a vehicle for family trips now, instead of a trebuchet into constant adventure. I left another comment saying I think they eventually need to resolve this situation by reunifying the Doctors and TARDISes, and I love the idea that the improvements made in the meantime will echo into Ncuti’s revamped TARDIS in the past. Maybe David installs the wheelchair ramp too? I’d love even just a short made for KZitem that showed him getting handy and doing that, implying that what you’ve suggested is also the case.
@robmissen
10 ай бұрын
For me, I didn't interpret it as Ncuti duplicating the TARDIS. I thought he used to Toymaker's residual power to summon a version of the TARDIS from a moment in time and allow it to exist next to itself. After all, ever since versions of the Doctor started meeting each other over the years, they've all been travelling in their own version of the TARDIS... The same TARDIS, but at different stages of it's own existence.. (Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey)
@h0lly_blue
10 ай бұрын
same software, different case
@morrybo12
10 ай бұрын
At least the new doctor doesn't have to worry about the flux anymore 😂😂😂
@xof1013
10 ай бұрын
Just as a reminder - When Nine regenerated into Ten - Ten was just as exuberant and gleeful - it took awhile for the weight of his years/memories, etc showed up. I would give the new doctor the benefit of a doubt, darlin'
@jakesmith6669
10 ай бұрын
Yep, would never have pictured for his performances to mirror the 9th ( his anger etc) let’s see how Ncuti grows into the role as the only one who didn’t really do that for me was Jodie’s doctor sadly
@TurusDJava
10 ай бұрын
I get what you mean when you say it feels like the doctors child i felt that too and your right it shouldn't feel that way
@TenCapQuesada
10 ай бұрын
Ncuti, dear boy, where are your trousers??😂😂
@JamesLanePhoto
10 ай бұрын
It’s nice to see I’m not the only one who reacted to the bigeneration like you did.
@UnitedFan2
10 ай бұрын
In Ncuti’s Tardis, there is a jukebox so I imagine your theory is more accurate where 14 regenerates into 15 and is plucked back into the rooftop where he’s conjoined with 14. But when the 15th hit the Tardis, it pushed his own Tardis from 14’s past Tardis into his own(as the Tardis can exist in the same place at two different points in its time.) That was my theory But Davies did say in the commentary(not sure if it’s a joke) that the Bi Regneratjon didn’t just happen to 14, it happened to all the previous Doctors, creating branching timelines (which makes Tales Of The Tardis much more sense)
@TheLibrarianOG1
10 ай бұрын
It's a time loop. Ncuti said, "I'm okay because you fix yourself." Which means, eventually he will turn into the 15th Doctor and be recalled to save himself before moving on. People weren't paying attention.
@torchwoodboy5564
10 ай бұрын
That bit wasn’t what confused me. More the Tardis. It wasn’t well explained.
@HouseOfTowski
10 ай бұрын
14th doctor becomes the curator.
@Cardboardamerica
10 ай бұрын
He gets pulled back after he’s been the doctor for awhile. His tardis is from the future and when he hit it, he called his back.
@jasonpaulbaker1
10 ай бұрын
It is weird, but they are both the doctor, one’s retired while the other continues on their adventures My theory is the retired doctor is the curator
@LiamCatterson
10 ай бұрын
The way I see it, the bigeneration is Ncuti pulled from a point in time where 14 should regenerate. And the TARDIS is the exact same. Same TARDIS and Doctor, just at a future point Though that’s me. Like you said, context was needed. I appreciate the fact we have a new gen of Whovians but we historicals can be dismissed too
@JasonDWitte
10 ай бұрын
Re: the two TARDISes. In the 20th anniversary special “The Five Doctors”, each Doctor has his own TARDIS. Different, but the same.
@LeveySaintil
10 ай бұрын
Per The Telegraph, ‘Davies explained that when Tennant and Gatwa split into two, “a whole timeline bi-generated” and a new Who mythology unrolled. He says each previous regeneration was impacted by this and every “old” Doctor actually survived his demise in a splinter timeline.’
@TakeAchance365
10 ай бұрын
I feel everything may be explained and called back to when the 15th doctor eventually regenerates remember Russell could’ve thought ahead and imagined the regeneration scene of the 15th doctor which will give him which that scene will give him the ability to tie everything back to a satisfactory end just be patient and enjoy the ride with a hopefully, satisfactory end
@StevenHouse1980
10 ай бұрын
3rd game in History Wack a Mole. Well since the 10th/11th Doctor he's been building up his own internal supply of regulation energy, each later regeneration was bigger than the last.(destroying two TARDIS control rooms and a Dalek warship.) the last time he came close to Tri-Generating was during the Doctor-Dona/Human-Doctor Meta-Crisis. The way I see it going forward now is if the time-out Doctor regenerates again before they recombine in to one Doctor, the one surviving Doctor would be a combination of both of them remembering the two pasts of both versions. Also as a side note for a story, if both of them regenerate at the same place in two separate times, like at both the past and future ends of a Time-Rift (like the one in Cardiff, but worse) regenerating into the Time-Rift with the same regeneration energy it might act as a stich in the time. After a wile transforming it into a personal wormhole that only the Doctor could use as it would be linked to his/her regeneration energy. One way to fix the Tardis's need to fule up in Cardiff. As for there being two of the same TARDIS, it's the same one just at a later point in her own personal history. Back during The Five Doctors story, we have seen a number of the same TARDIS's takeing up the same spacetime location at the same time in the toom at the end. "Sexy" can do it the Doctor just trys hard not to land his/her TARDIS inside another of the same TARDIS. the outside-in and the inside-out can get to be a problem and two sets of the same TARDIS doors trying to work in the same place at the same time could be a problem.
@anomalysakawendy5096
10 ай бұрын
Honestly, this episode made me deeply, fully happy. If anyone deserves a happy ending... and time to find peace of mind... it's 10/14. David is a legacy we are lucky to have, forever if possible. I also think it's a weird take to think the spotlight was taken from Ncuti. The new Doctor never gets more than maybe a minute and a line in a regeneration episode. These episodes belong to the outgoing Doctor. (Even if he doesn't actually end.) So, in, fact, Ncuti/15 got to shine more than any previous new incarnation, at the end of the day. He got to share the spotlight... which never happens. So that was a cool bonus. He & David were a joy to watch together. Just what the Doctor, both of them, needed. And who cares about which Tardis? The Tardis is the Tardis is the Tardis. The whole thing was beautiful!
@tienshinhan8189
10 ай бұрын
So you're telling me a celestial being, beyond the rules of the universe, can't catch a ball? I wish the way The Doctor beats The Toymaker would have been more intellectual.
@charg1nmalaz0r51
10 ай бұрын
I was waiting for him to teleport down the building and catch it.
@DanylRathbandFilms
10 ай бұрын
I have really enjoyed these episodes. This one has been the best out of them. Roll on Christmas time.
@LuckyStarShi-Roku
10 ай бұрын
The 2nd TARDIS Is becouse of the toymakers manipulation hadn't quite worn off yet there was just enough of his influence leftover to make a copy
@Lucifer_Crowe
10 ай бұрын
Martha is gonna be furioys when Rose and Donna both get a Tennant
@deadpolymers3416
10 ай бұрын
The way I see it is that instead of the previous Doctor going away completely, they will bigenerate and all former Doctors moving forward will co-exist in the world. Meaning old Doctors can pop into new Doctor adventures, and old Doctors can continue to have story lines for as long as they want to participate in the show.
@noaramboa2913
10 ай бұрын
A headcanon/big theory is 14 will eventually settle down permanently as the curator, as sort of an alternate future that also exists in the same timeline
@gibsel5194
10 ай бұрын
The way i see it is that the Toymaker has cartoon powers similar to"The Mask", rules of toon. 14th got his prize of getting rid of the Toymaker while 15th's prize was to basically copy and paste the tardis by knocking a second one out of the original. Its how it works in my head anyway. I have quite a bit of hope for him, his energy and smile seem to work really well for his portray of the doctor. Looking forward to seeing more!
@hothotheat3000
10 ай бұрын
“Bigeneration!” Aww fuck me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@projectsketch
10 ай бұрын
I’d like to think that the 14th doctor becomes the curator from the 50th since he is basically retired
@LabradorIndependent
10 ай бұрын
To be fair, whenever The Doctor regenerates, the new one never feels like the "real" Doctor. Tennant has in my mind been the 'real' Doctor since I was six years old. What I love about this is the character finally has a happy ending. Is a new Tardis odd? Maybe, but no stranger than recasting your main character and incorporating it into the lore.
@Enzo012
10 ай бұрын
They're probably going to do a retcon where the Disney version of the Doctor gets all the 'Timeless Child' memories but loses everything from Hartnell onwards so he's a like 100% new character while the other one is the classic era Doctor who will put in guest appearances.
@LabradorIndependent
10 ай бұрын
14 & 15 had a whole conversation about their shared memories at the end of this episode, and also that would suck, so I doubt it.
@paulhammond6978
10 ай бұрын
Yes - it normally takes two or three episodes, or some iconic "Doctory" moment before we come to accept a new face as "really" the Doctor.
@404_Redacted
10 ай бұрын
From what i can make of this episode Ncuti and David's Doctors are now separate Timelords, Ncuti is is "The" Doctor and David is a copy that the toymaster created
@kyato2480
10 ай бұрын
who picked up the gold tooth, was it Jinx Monsoons' character?
@kahlanwilliams267
10 ай бұрын
My headcannon on the TARDIS is .. Its a time and space machine and the original form stays with 14 until he finally regerates, because the laws of time and space were out of whack because of the game, when 15 hit it, it basically knocked the future version into the current time stream. Basically the same thing that happened to the Doctor but needed a thump to make it work.
@dharusiokay9426
10 ай бұрын
Well, the doctor had basically just gotten quite a big thump with a big laser. So, agree.
@Kasino80
10 ай бұрын
I like what they did. In order to move forward properly, the bagage of 60 years is starting to be a bit heavy, and had to be dealt with. James Bond did the same thing, but instead of acknowledging the past, they essentially got rid of it. Here they say a proper thank you and goodbye to what came before, while heading out towards new adventures.
@gezab2611
10 ай бұрын
I just find it funny that when they split so did the clothing so that means DT doctor was playing catch commando
@nodansland303
10 ай бұрын
I went into this one thinking i was a bit sad to see Tennant go so soon, but I like this approach. 14 gets to ride off into the sunset and 15 gets to hopefully start strong.
@thebird2253
10 ай бұрын
I think the split generation happened because a second before laser hit 14 he challenged him to a game and at the same time the toy maker challenged the next version of the time lord. Could it be the beginning of the Valeyard?
@perkigothdragon2397
10 ай бұрын
This was delirious and delightful and everything I didn’t know I needed. So glad I didn’t have a clue!
@annaschwirian7548
10 ай бұрын
So David's doctor will become the great curator (also the museum already had the circles) Ncuti's the doctor who travels . The best way to work this was for david to regenerate into Another femiluar face when 15 regenerates. The doctor on earth could literally be connected to the Traveling doctor and is just the restful doctor.
@romarqable
10 ай бұрын
They may have set up 14 to eventually be the Curator here. Obviously there is a tie to UNIT, and it seems like Donna Noble just got a job at unit (barring she doesnt drop any coffees into any computers) This Doctor could take on the role of the Curator. Heck, maybe the Undergallery is his Tardis in a new form. We did see the round things on the walls after all.
@carolthomasamazonThomas
10 ай бұрын
The Doctor who didn't want to go, never actually leaves. There couldn't be a more perfect ending. Or should I say beginning?
@m.b.6402
10 ай бұрын
He got HIS Tardis instead of 14th's as a second hand. He got the "new" Tardis every Doctor gets. Me, I was worried he'd be stuck with 14th's "old" Tardis. It transformed twice, once for each Tardis.
@panamakira
10 ай бұрын
I definitely share your concerns and I definitely want to know more about the bi-regeneration because it was confusing but also I’m really excited about Ncuti and the energy he brings and I hope things make more sense later!
@seamusburke639
10 ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to Ncuti's run. He seems to have his Doctor down pretty well.
@rhinehold4268
10 ай бұрын
Here's the thing... originally there wasn't any regeneration at all, it was added into being canon years after the show started. Why not this very very rare thing that the Timeless Child could do as a way for their 'kind' (not a time lord) to procreate, like splitting amoebas. The new Tardis exists strictly because it was a prize from beating the Toymaker, he had the power to do such a thing out of anyone else because of his rules not following those of the known universe.
@ZoahLord
10 ай бұрын
My head-canon is just that Fourteen is either just an echo of himself now, like a reverse version of The Watcher / The Valeyard / Cho-Je and they will age and die naturally (within a normal incarnations life expectancy) OR Fourteen will cycle back, revisiting past bodies when regenerating before passing away naturally. Either way, he's the by-product of something that's not supposed to happen. Fourteen is now in semi-retirement but I imagine he won't be able to resist the call to save Earth if Fifteen is off-world. Kinda like a return to Pertwee's era. As for Fifteen, in my head he's a standard incarnation of the Doctor emerging from a regeneration - fully legitimate and as part of the progression of incarnations as ever we've seen. Twelve wanted Thirteen to be more enthusiastic than him, Thirteen tried hard but I imagine she was bottling up all the trauma (from seeing Gallifrey wiped out again, from learning about the Timeless Child, from the guilt of the Flux) which really wouldn't have done her that much good, Fourteen tried working through the trauma, Fifteen is slightly healthier and happier knowing that there's a separate part of him on Earth living a life with a duplicate TARDIS . I'm not disappointed in the headwork I've had to do. I am disappointed that Donna didn't say "You ARE like worms!" straight after the regeneration as a call-back to 'Journey's End'...I would have cracked up
@jakesmith6669
10 ай бұрын
I don’t get what you mean when you said oh no it’s real, was there a leak / spoiler about the biregenration?
@trunksGav
10 ай бұрын
Notice the bit near the end wit the gold tooth- Not only did The Toy Maker mentioned trapping the master but the hand grab n the laugh was just like when John Sim was the Master n that woman picked up the ring! Which Master did the toymaker trap!?
@GreenWolfDen
10 ай бұрын
Paraphrasing here but 14 said the laws he clings to don't apply to the toymaker (TM). So when the TM killed 14, normal rengenration laws don't apply. 15 should have overtaken 14, but 14 didn't go (becuase he doesn't want to go). 15 is the true doctor as he came about through 14's regeneration, 14 is the anomaly as he should have died but didn't. (Both David's doctors have anomaly versions; The one heart version with Rose, and now this one. David's doctors are the anomaly doctors.) With regards to the TARDIS, I agree 15's is not the original, but (and this is a stretch) if you were hit over the headwith a mallet, you'd be seeing double too.
@aquasky77
10 ай бұрын
I heard that due to the Toymaker and his use of that beam, Doctor 15 got pulled earlier into the timeline. So when Doctor 14 eventually goes we will only have Doc15. It's all behind the scene stuff, which we may never see. It's sort of mentioned in the exchange of dialogue, when Doct15 says it's time for Doc14 to rest and heal a bit, Doc14 asks why, cause Doc14 looks fine. Then Doc15 says something like "we are doing rehab out of order, I am fine cause you sorted yourself out". That is how I have understood it, if it makes any bit of sense.
@MrSynn69
10 ай бұрын
It is the same Tardis because it was his prize for beating the Toymaker. To which anything is possible. Having said that it maybe a story thread for the future.
@n0body550
10 ай бұрын
Makes sense to me, its a show that makes up its own rules and we should just accept it, it brings more positive possibilities than negative ones so i dont see how (other than idiot, bigoted racists) this can be bad
@murraymint8599
10 ай бұрын
In the commentary on iplayer Russel said he was going to give an explanation that the Tardis is the exact same Tardis so I don’t think there is anything to worry about
@UnderhillKoufax
10 ай бұрын
This break in show continuity happened the last time Melanie Bush joined Dr. Who too. I remember.
@nightbreed16
10 ай бұрын
I am excited for the future cause David can show up at any time.
@agisv1036
10 ай бұрын
I think the bi-regeneration is a result of the toymakers domain and presence in the universe. They are talking about myths all the time. Christmas special has a goblin song talking about how the goblin king is not a myth. RTD also said that this season might feel more like science fantasy instead of science fiction.
@RaineMarostica
10 ай бұрын
My head cannon is David splits of and becomes the curator and he’s the that revisits the old favorites
@Hercules_Flexing
10 ай бұрын
I interpreted that Ncuti's doctor took the regeneration ability with him in the split... like DT's 14 will just die and not regenerate.
@magicstu
10 ай бұрын
Its doctor who telling us were old as fuck chap lol
@GeorgeMurphy1000
10 ай бұрын
This is how I, personally, see the bi-regeneraation thing: The Doctor said in the episode that "Bi-regeneration is suppose to be a myth" and then, later, he splits the TARDIS because enough of the Toymakers essence is still around that the walls of reality are thin enough to do so So I think Bi-regeneration WAS a myth but, because of how close The Toymaker was to The Doctor, the myth was made real, even if just for a moment Either way, I am ok with it and happy that Davids Doctor got a happy, calm ending while still having Ncuti's Doctor get to run off doing all that adventuring
@squirrelarch
10 ай бұрын
Yours has been the most visceral initial reaction to the bigeneration scene (probably because you perhaps didn't want to believe the rumours). Pretty sure this signifies quite a significant reset of the series itself which might no be a bad thing. Any love your reactions. Very best wishes.
@calumobrien9234
10 ай бұрын
In regards to the Tardis, RTD said in the commentary that it’s the same one, and that it’ll be explained at a later point.
@ozerune
10 ай бұрын
The "fake Doctor" thing, you can already argue that the Doctor has been fake for many seasons now after the Doctor did the teleport clone thing with Capaldi.
@margretrosenberg420
10 ай бұрын
Ncuti Gatwa is going to be a FANTASTIC Doctor.
@blazingocean4206
10 ай бұрын
Isn’t this the second version of Tenant Doctor that gets to live his own life out there? The one that went with Rose.
@spacetraveller9399
10 ай бұрын
No.
@blazingocean4206
10 ай бұрын
what? i thought a meta doctor existed that went out to love his life with Rose in another universe. @@spacetraveller9399
@marshsundeen
10 ай бұрын
I loved it. We will see what they do in the future.
@otysafiry
10 ай бұрын
My logic as to why it happened was that David wasn't supposed to die just yet. He was supposed to beat the Toymaker alone and then settle down and go through his little rehab with Donna. Like Chutti says "We're doing rehab out of order," because he's already gone through the rehab. The Tardis thing was his reward for beating the Toymaker, David's reward was sealing the Toymaker, they both needed a reward.
@joem4585
10 ай бұрын
I'm thinking the TARDIS's timeline, like the Doctor's, has bisected. From a certain point on two versions of it exist simultaneously. I did enjoy the episode much more than I thought I would when I read the leak (which I still regret doing and spoilering myself). It's all about the execution.
@scottkreiner8168
10 ай бұрын
The way I see it, we have a main Doctor and a new way for him to interact with his past self. The same way they always could through time travel. As long as 14 still existing doesn't overshadow 15 then it shouldn't be too different
@1938superman
10 ай бұрын
17:21 I think they wanted to do it to make the fans of Tenant happy not to have to say goodbye to him yet. They wanted narratively give The Doctor a cathartic way to leave the emotional weight of his past behind him. To make this the beginning of a new phase in Doctor Who. And they also want to create this Whoniverse thing. Spinoffs and other in-universe media. Maybe in addition to whatever else they have planned, the give 14 and Donna a spinoff. Or they do an occasional movie or special with them. Kind of a Doctor Emeritus situation. We’ll see.
@f1since08
10 ай бұрын
Ncuti definitely gets the duplicate TARDIS
@1938superman
10 ай бұрын
@@f1since08 My mistake. I went back and watched it again. Not sure why I remembered it the other way around.
@generalwho8022
10 ай бұрын
Technically now there are three doctors, 14th, 15th and metacrisis
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