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@fortheloveofnoise
7 ай бұрын
Can't afford to enter, but I hope whoever wins manual swaps them, I know I would.
@SRT717hp
7 ай бұрын
Entered, need at least one of them beside my hellcat. 😎
@Sub-Zero-392
5 ай бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoiseI would trade them in for a GT500 Mustang 🐎
@paulsawitsky9251
7 ай бұрын
If it doesn't have a supercharged V8 they can keep it. I owned a 6.1, 6.4, Hellcat and currently a Hellcat Redeye, all Challenger SRT's. I wanted a Demon 170, but the mark up's were ridiculous. I didn't buy any of these car's for the "collectable status" I drive my Redeye everyday. I'm not too happy with Dodge turning on there loyal supporters. If they don't do something to remedy this I will never purchase another car from them again.
@austinpowers1999
7 ай бұрын
Tesla has up front pricing
@chillwill7857
7 ай бұрын
@@austinpowers1999 And Lucid 🚘
@futurefunk88eddins96
7 ай бұрын
You must not really know how corporate companies work. These hemis were old and not emissions compliant for everyone they sold in a car they were hit with penalties and fines so why would they keep making them only to turn around and give the revenue to the government. Think!!!! And where would the money come from to invest into a new engine when the industry is moving to smaller displacements and turbos. The only arms of Stellantis that will get premium investments is jeep and ram. It's a reason why they're doing this. They're in business to make money not besties.
@frankthetank3851
7 ай бұрын
Dodge was getting slammed with gas guzzler taxes/penalties. The v8s days are done sad to say, but this is what’s happening. Saying Dodge betrayed you is a bit much and ignoring why they are doing this is silly.
@fifasf3379
7 ай бұрын
@@frankthetank3851done for now, once this administration is out and things start going back to normal, economically speaking and what not things will be back to normal I would say about five years at least. The electric revolution is never going to work, and if no one believes me go to your local power generation station and speak to an engineer. I work around them all the time and it’s very enlightening. They’ll never last.
@B0RRAC0
7 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for Tim Kuniskis to release a statement saying "The market has spoken & we heard you..."
@Akosa117
7 ай бұрын
Lmao how are y’all this dense? The market speaking and them listening is why they’re doing the the hornet…
@geton411
7 ай бұрын
@@Akosa117manufacturers are loosing billions bc of evs they aren’t selling
@314jeepsnmopars3
7 ай бұрын
@Akosa117 the Hornet is more dor EPA compliance and being a low cost entry with low development costs from Alfa.
@americanassassin001
7 ай бұрын
Me too bro. Dodge is Dead On Arrival in 2024. No one will buy the EV or the inline 6. What would be the point. No one wants this shit we want High Horsepower V8s. It's the V8 experience that we are buying nothing else. That's why Ford said we will gladly keep selling V8s even if we are the only brand doing it. They listened to us and payed attention to what happened with their own EV shit that no one wants.
@Alan-tr5uj
7 ай бұрын
@@geton411 Certain EV's aren't selling well, but 2023 was a RECORD sales year for EV's- 1.2 million EV's were sold, the highest amount ever to this point.EV's total market share in the US grew from 5.9% in 2022 to 7.6% in 2023 that's market share of total US auto sales; the ONLY segment that's growing btw.... EV's sales in 2024 are already on pace to exceed the projected 2024 market share increase to 10%. These are HUGE sales increases year over year. Yes, Tesla is grabbing nearly 55% of ALL EV's sold- so huge numbers for that one brand, but thats why automakers are all in for EV's now. Outside of us enthusiasts, the "mass" market consumer which purchases vehicles as efficient transportation appliances seem to have far less reservations about purchasing EV's. The anti-EV propaganda runs rampant in the US, but really does not reflect the facts of what is really happening. The sales numbers overall tell a much different, and very dynamic story. Racer X has touched on this- the reality vs. the propaganda. Theres no doubt that non-competitive EV's aren't selling very well, but the market leaders are selling extremely well. The problems with the sales losers in the EV segment are the same as with regular ICE vehicles; if they're not good enough, or value-to-dollar is not competitive with the segment leader (Tesla), people will not spend their hard earned $$$ on vehicles that don't make a compelling alternative. The Lightning doesn't have enough battery, the Mach-E shouldn't have Mustang attached to it for one, name it Taurus or ANYTHING ELSE, but people are offended that its called a Mustang. Also people shy away from the Mach E simply because the charging experience sucks, as they do the Lightning... The switch to Tesla's NACS standard will fix that for the 2026 Models (if not already for the 2025 MY- not sure if they're coming with NACS yet). On top of all that, the prices were too high- and going in the wrong direction. If Dodge wants to be successful in the EV space, they need products that can go toe-to-toe with Tesla on features, design, and price. If they can do all of those things, Dodge could be very successful in the EV space. As we're witnessing so far though- that's not as simple as it sounds.
@The_Hi_Life
7 ай бұрын
The “We saved the best for Last” Last Call edition 😂 They’re gonna ride this train for as long as they possibly can!
@Viper3048
7 ай бұрын
No V8 = no purchase. People will flock to older models and they will retain value well.
@justme307
7 ай бұрын
They aren't flocking to dealers now to get the last of the 2024's. There's over 300+ days supply sitting on lots (see another RacerX video on this).
@nigelholland1714
7 ай бұрын
@@justme307yeah because of the criminal dealership mark ups
@blue46gt
7 ай бұрын
EVs are already smoking Hellcats and Demons at the track.
@Sub-Zero-392
5 ай бұрын
@@blue46gt ummm, no. Even if that was true nobody cares about EV's no matter how fast they are.
@Sub-Zero-392
5 ай бұрын
You're 100% correct.
@craigm2484
7 ай бұрын
They can keep ALL THE ELECTRIC CARS ! EVS the World just is NOT ready and We should Not have them pushed on Us ! The World runs on Fossil fuels and will not change any time soon . Great content as per usual 👍
@ryanpetree6475
7 ай бұрын
Dodge ICE fans should be happy to have EV's giving the Oil industry some actual competition. Otherwise they control your life at their will. Try and start an oil company and see how that goes for you. Problem is politics. If oil was a free market we would be paying $.50/g and driving hellcats all the time! But no world leaders are assholes
@mucleboy0151
7 ай бұрын
Yea the oil companies r too powerful.and have too much money they not gonna just lay down
@patcurrie9888
7 ай бұрын
Prepare for 8 bucks a gallon as gas demands go down
@craigm2484
7 ай бұрын
@@patcurrie9888 Prepare for rolling brown outs and no way to charge your EV You Sir are Dismissed ! Just the Facts Pat ! We have enough oil in reserves too run this country for more than a century the entire country runs on fossil fuels ! You are most likely Pro Sleepy Joe when times change the prices will drop just like this conversation !
@stephenconway9284
6 ай бұрын
Regime Change in the USA In November will throw out the Draconian emissions regulations and allow for freedom of choice. BIDENOMICS SUCKS!!
@jointhefist1016
7 ай бұрын
Finally, about time Dodge gets a new and lighter chassis for the charger
@redhunnid5142
7 ай бұрын
It’s not lighter it’s a heavy long boat for absolutely no reason it should’ve be aerodynamic on the sides and the back it’s too basic and long. That wheel base looks way too long they need to shorten it a bit. To make it look more like a sleek and nimble coupe. Like how BMW and Mercedes slim down and makes their heavy cars aerodynamic for power to weight ratio. This car is not a muscle car so they need to make it light to keep up with Mustang and Camaro. It just has the shell of a muscle car with no heart it has no V8 no muscle. Dodge needs to make this car between 3,760lbs-3,880lbs. If it’s not around that weight this is ridiculously too heavy for a EV the battery is already heavy lighten the car up.
@WorshipDaKing
7 ай бұрын
@@redhunnid5142 the had to do it for crash testing everything is built like a boat, camaro, suvs, trucks, chargers...
@josebrown5961
7 ай бұрын
It looks to me like just a bad reskin of a Charger. Sorry Charger/Challenger fans, they are just playing you. If they really wanted to continue making those cars they would have actually spent some money on a new platform, not the same Daimler platform that has been used since the ‘00s.
@kskip4242
7 ай бұрын
@@redhunnid5142correct me if I'm wrong but I think the original 69 Dodge Charger was only around 3,000 to 3200 lb.
@rod1499
7 ай бұрын
@@kskip4242 i dont think they were that light. My 69 Roadrunner was around 3700 lbs if i remember right.
@Dtronic2
7 ай бұрын
Lol. If the v8's go away, then so does Dodge. Ive had 3 Rams in the last 10 years and have a 2020 Scat Pack Challenger shaker. If I have to buy a twin turbo truck, then Im going Toyota. And no way would I think about buying a v6 muscle car 😅
@bbag5358
7 ай бұрын
FACTS
@hachyboy45769
7 ай бұрын
Fr! I have a WB Hellcat and a scat pack charger, Dodge deff dying after that decision taken. You should look for the Tundra, my sister got one recently and it’s pretty good, that v6 feels and sounds like a V8, and you got reliability bc Toyota known for.
@Sub-Zero-392
5 ай бұрын
You'd buy a Toyota when Ford has a TTV6 that is easily the best in the market. That makes zero sense to me.
@paulvincent3825
7 ай бұрын
The reason Dodge is tinkering with the idea of a return to the HEMI is because they can see that EVs are not selling as expected the American people don’t want them
@nathansummerville3972
7 ай бұрын
I want an NA aluminum block 7.0+l V8 in my next car. If that never happens then I will simply keep my Scatpack and build my own.
@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711
7 ай бұрын
I wish they had made a track focused Challenger ACR powered by a 426 Hemi.
@miketwotwenty
7 ай бұрын
@@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711I agree!
@Justin_GFM
7 ай бұрын
@@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711 Dodge made the T/A package which could’ve been the Challenger’s own “1LE” but nope, just some graphics and minor performance changes lol
@johnsmith-ym3kx
7 ай бұрын
Get a C6 Z06. All aluminum 427, super light and manual transmission only!!!!!
@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711
7 ай бұрын
@@johnsmith-ym3kx a Camaro Z/28 could work too
@denisenowell1972
7 ай бұрын
Personally I think a lot of enthusiasts would be pissed if Dodge did that after all the last call hype and dealer mark ups.
@mikeicee
7 ай бұрын
The problem is nobody is buying the $45k hornet 3 cylinder turbos
@denisenowell1972
7 ай бұрын
@@mikeicee that too, and I don't think the cyclone is the problem it's the horrible styling. That thing is ugggggggly.
@slimhardaway8
7 ай бұрын
For the record just because someone owns a cool car doesn’t make them an enthusiast!
@denisenowell1972
7 ай бұрын
@slimhardaway8 I completely agree 👍 just stating my opinion as an enthusiast 😊 have a fantastic weekend and be safe out there
@garyszewc3339
7 ай бұрын
The last call was the last call. Those cars are done. They didn't say they would never make a performance car.
@godsspeedify
7 ай бұрын
Ford is going to crush Dodge when Ford announced they are going to keep making V8 gasoline / petrol engines that was the nail in the coffin for Dodge..
@frankthetank3851
7 ай бұрын
Just want to say that a “change at the top” is not what is needed. Greed is not good and that’s all you’ll get if you get the “change” you are suggesting. Voting for a government official bc you want a v8 is probably the stupidest thing you could do
@socdy600
7 ай бұрын
The Dodge Avenger has risen again🤣🤣🤣
@psencikfarms1
7 ай бұрын
Or Intrepid! That's what it reminds me of
@socdy600
7 ай бұрын
@@psencikfarms1 🤣🤝🏾 I forgot about that car
@mogulme6190
7 ай бұрын
When these come out and start being modified they’ll look as good or better than the challenger. And these are only the beginning. Imagine this design with a widebody lowered better wheels. It’s handle better and probably be quicker due to the weight cut alone.
@davidhubbard7573
7 ай бұрын
BOYCOTT STELLANTIS
@dipfan9192
7 ай бұрын
I do but I have a friend that has a 300 so I keep an eye on what they're into next. What brings you here? You don't seem like a Mopar guy.
@davidhubbard7573
7 ай бұрын
I am my 1st and 3rd car were Mopar. I also own a 2014 rt 6 peed challenger and a1997 dodge rM sport 4x4 1500 with a 5.9. Magnum so what are you talking about x. Stellantis is Mopar its Mopar I'm 60 how old are you so cuz I can compare notes with you all day and win😂
@FrankBullitt390
7 ай бұрын
Issue is they can't just "drop a hellcat in it". Any time you change a major component such as an engine or transmission the car needs to be re-certified again and crash tested which costs millions. The current car didnt have that problem because it was already certified for the hemi engine across the board, its why it was so easy for them to put the 6.4 in that last call 300, it had previously had that engine before. Its why the Rams (and everything else coming) had to wait until mid cycle refresh time to put the hurricane in them, its a massive expenditure.
@GrandMoffJoseph
7 ай бұрын
If the prices you mentioned are accurate, you'd have a situation where brand new 2025s are stickered at lower prices than the 2023-2024 models still rotting away on dealer lots!
@evildrizzt1
7 ай бұрын
stellantis is already pricing msrp 83% above cost to manufacture.
@keytothegate68
7 ай бұрын
This week alone almost 500 cars were stolen in Chicago. How long do you think this red Demon or whatever it is would last out in the wild before being stolen and ending up in the hood
@Ron-e2y
7 ай бұрын
Forget about any decent engines coming from Dodge. Stellantis won't allow it. They want to ruin Chrysler. As long as Stellantis owns Chrysler I'm done buying new ones.
@Perry-ck1hv
7 ай бұрын
Personally I'd rather see Dodge bring back the RAM charger and get rid of the Durango. I would also like to see it with solid axles in a super heavy duty version. They could make it reminiscent of the 85-87 model ram charger, those were nice trucks. A newer version with a 6.4 would be absolutely wonderful and also a big seller. A lot of work would be needed in the solid actual version with many updates to the track bars coil springs suspensions and nitro shocks or air ride. I believe it could be a real killer. That's my opinion though
@greengabe5
7 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people are giving the inline six too much crap. They are proven engines, that can make insane power. For example, the Toyota 2JZ and the Ford Bara are both capable of 1,000+ HP with simple mods and a tune.
@evildrizzt1
7 ай бұрын
Performance isn’t the point. It’s reliability and longevity. You ever drove that twin charged 2jz cross country for a roadtrip? How about towing a teardrop trailer up a grade? Not interested in a engine which is going to breakdown right after the warranty expires. According to mechanics working for jeep that HO CaT runs 26psi of boost. Imagine running 26psi through an aluminum block with cast internals for a hot summer drive.
@miketwotwenty
7 ай бұрын
@@evildrizzt12jz is very reliable! Jdm is more reliable than most muscle cars!
@greengabe5
7 ай бұрын
@@evildrizzt1 what a chump, you act like they can’t make the block out of something stronger🤣💀
@esteban1487
7 ай бұрын
turbo 6s 👎
@redhunnid5142
7 ай бұрын
It’s basically not even a muscle they’re just putting it in a muscle car shell smh
@JJsGA
7 ай бұрын
Yall forget the old school chargers had inline 6s in base and low trims. There isn't a single generation that didn't have a 6 in it.
@esteban1487
7 ай бұрын
@@JJsGA They should stick with an NA 6.
@JJsGA
7 ай бұрын
@@esteban1487 I disagree...an NA 6 would be an absolute dog. At least the 3.0 i6 makes 400+ in its lowest trim. Hell it's making 510hp/500lbft in the wagoneer!
@esteban1487
7 ай бұрын
@@JJsGA Understressed, lasts longer, cheaper to fix 🤷
@jaybman2700
7 ай бұрын
Not to get political, but let’s be honest if Trump gets back in that’s when dodge will make some announcements, if he doesn’t “full EV“
@jeffbendertheenforcer5834
7 ай бұрын
He did say the green new hoax will be ended his first day in office.
@larryc1616
7 ай бұрын
No, America wants to lead into the future not go ass backwards with the traitor in chief = Make Prison Great Again! #GITMO4LIFE
@garyszewc3339
7 ай бұрын
@@larryc1616the traitor in chief is the idiot who thinks we should be driving electric garbage that nobody wants. Anything he gets kickbacks from.
@jeffbendertheenforcer5834
7 ай бұрын
@larryc1616 going EV is ass backwards . If you think batteries are they way to you you have no interest in the car scene don't kid yourself nobody else is buying the bullshit .
If the charger is 3,500 lb and they make a track version with a manual transmission I would buy it
@gloopdogg905
7 ай бұрын
I’d love a new hellcat, but for me it would have to also have a manual transmission. I know I’m in the minority here, but I just don’t enjoy driving automatics.
@isaiahjames9103
7 ай бұрын
It would make people mad but a potentially lighter, aerodynamic, awd or rwd hellcat would be crazy
@rachelbolyard1527
7 ай бұрын
The Hemi is a poor cousin to the LS anyway. Taking ~200lbs off the nose of these new cars with an all aluminum I6 will do WONDERS for handling. Bring it on!
@Rnemhrd
7 ай бұрын
EV means no go for me.
@SRT-ow3cq
7 ай бұрын
Well by now Dodge should know which dealers did the gouging on the 170's ... If they do a hellcat version, then exclude them from getting any of them.
@aaronharter2418
7 ай бұрын
Imagine how pissed some owners would be that raced out to get the last hellcat and then they come out with another one!
@LeadfootLou
7 ай бұрын
Just like the 2021 Durango Hellcat owners
@Rick-fe8xn
7 ай бұрын
Well dodge has always bull shitted people with stuff like that lol
@cameraguy-s3h
7 ай бұрын
They never said they were ending the Hellcat they only stated the change in L platform hemi
@Rick-fe8xn
7 ай бұрын
@LeadfootLou the TA model also, then brought it back 2 or 3 yrs later? Why who knows
@joshreynolds729
7 ай бұрын
Man they deserve that for paying all the extra for the new shit that’s not new just has a paint package on it with some name no real power change. Nothing rare about a hellcat today sorry to burst your bubbles. Maybe when I bought mine they were but now they are a dime a dozen. Look at the resale value gents. In 6 years your car will be worth 47k on margin yet they want damn near 100k now 🤣. If you were smart you would just buy an older one no stupid paint package or special stitching but hey who cares same set up. Paint it change the seats anyways because they are to damn heavy still have money left. And in the new body style if they wanted to bring the name back then that’s on them, different body style so not exactly like the Durango or demon situation.
@Clutch_Kick187
7 ай бұрын
If anyone thinks a Hurricane that is tuned with downpipes will suck, they are so wrong.. Jump in a tuned and downpipe BMW B58 making 650hp or for the trucks, jump into a 3.5 ecoboost F150 with some mods that make 600+ to the tire.. The will run circles around any V8.. Yes you lose the great V8 rumble, but in all reality the torque is instant and they have promise, as long as Stelantis makes a good stout block and uses a good fuel system, and some good pistons and connecting rods from the factory..
@devonp5079
7 ай бұрын
Last Call was Tim Kuniskis’s Big Lie Money Grab.
@blueduster74
7 ай бұрын
A turbo 5.7 would destroy the Hurricane. Period. Stop comparing a turbo engine to a NA engine.
@user-zi5zv4zt8d
7 ай бұрын
Love it the H6 version is going to my favorite. MDGA
@owningit625
7 ай бұрын
Me, 66,68, and 14 Charger’s. My grandma drove a 383 powered 70 and I was driven to school as a kid in a 71. We’ve always been a Charger family. I can tell you that true lovers of the big Dodge don’t care if the alternatives are faster. It’s the whole persona, sound, vibration, etc. If it’s not powered by a real V8, sales will plummet. I haven’t talked to anyone so far that would buy that swill. If speed is the only consideration there are plenty of faster alternatives.
@mitchlaj5963
7 ай бұрын
I have a '17 scat pack shaker which I turned into a '71 hemi cuda in Go Green. I tried to get a 170 ( the beast we knew was coming ) for the last 4 years from a dealer in Canada. They would not take a deposit. They got an allocation and sold it to another dealer for 75k CAD over. Never had a chance. To hell with any dodge products forever in a new car
@09fatbobmike
7 ай бұрын
All the sudden folks are ok with a 6 cylinder lol I been boosting my v6 charger for 5 plus years. I would like to see how the 540hp inline 6 compares to mine in the quarter. My best track run is 11.82 with estimated 520-530whp. But the inline 6 with the turbo may be a little quicker or close to the same because turbo power curve is more flat. Good stuff!
@esteban1487
7 ай бұрын
EVs 👎
@justinforgette11
7 ай бұрын
Imagine a 6.2 naturally aspirated (440hp ish) and a 6.2 hellcat offering. Possible but not likely
@mcfero1
7 ай бұрын
Wow kind of like the 6.4, 392.
@RobertEdits
7 ай бұрын
I always wondered how it would run
@crazypkm
7 ай бұрын
@@RobertEditsit would smoke everything under 600hp because of the lighter weight
@redhunnid5142
7 ай бұрын
They already released it and got rid of it before 2011 it was called the 6.1l Hemi naturally aspirated and took mods well they got rid of it before they could pair it with the 8 speed transmission. It was the perfect option between the 5.7 and the 6.4 if you didn’t gave enough money for the 6.4 you bought the 6.1 and if you didn’t have enough for 6.1 or 6.4 you got 5.7. They need to bring 6.1 engine back and put the Hellcat 8 speed transmission on it and put it out as a option. I don’t care about no EV at all I want the 6.1 Hemi back with the 8 speed transmission immediately.
@justinforgette11
7 ай бұрын
@@redhunnid5142a 6.1 hemi is not the same as a 6.2 hellcat minus the supercharger.
@readyon3506
7 ай бұрын
If the car has lighter chassis, 540 HP from the factory with some additional bolt ons 650 hp / 700 hp will really fast
@joshg4953
7 ай бұрын
That and considering I think these come with an AWD option, so imagine the 800hp trim with AWD. That would be like a rocket almost
@getoutyourfeelings2613
7 ай бұрын
@@joshg4953shit going to be another heavy boat getting gap
@Crazy8ts
7 ай бұрын
@@joshg4953if they have an awd drivetrain for several years that can reliably handle it big torque the Trackhawk grand cherokee for example, but i dont think they will use hellcat level torque in a sedan with allwheel drive unless its an EV puttingnpower to each wheel with individual motors awd is is not an issue in that regard and packaging and reliability would be a big advantae over the hemi engine and tansaxles, t hi-po cars will have motors at all 4 wheels. Dodge has had awd in the chargers for several years now..police package hemi fro example.
@rogerrussell9544
7 ай бұрын
@@joshg4953 The AWD versions of the Challenger/300 didn't race off the dealer lots. Offering something people aren't asking for doesn't work well.
@joshg4953
7 ай бұрын
@@rogerrussell9544 I know that, but it would be nice if they did. Especially for those of us who live where we usually get a good bit of snow
@jodypoelzer3046
7 ай бұрын
Not only are most of us not going to buy the new Dodge offerings because of the V6 or EV power plants in them its also because the car itself just don't look that good! Sure it's going to be faster than my Scat Pack Shaker but so will an upgraded EV but the Challenger just looks soo good! I've had my Challenger for four years now and it still turns heads!
@anthonybaiardo7188
7 ай бұрын
Agree 💯, love my shaker, manual.
@jtpiercy1966
7 ай бұрын
Now u know they gonna mark all those prices up and tell us fibbs thats why i sold my scat pack for a ss1le dodge has lost all credibility with most of its fan base at this point but great video as always happy Saturday all
@jeffrey501green
7 ай бұрын
Agree, Dodge guy since 1970, all done with them now...
@MrWheelGun
7 ай бұрын
Loved my 2019 Challenger Scat Pack Widebody but my 2023 Tesla M3P is quicker 0-60 mph, standing 1/8 and 1/4 mile (11.44 @ 116.3 mph).
@garyszewc3339
7 ай бұрын
And an electric Charger will probably be faster than that. However, most people don't want electric.
@ubeuonly
7 ай бұрын
No matter how fast it is the Crux of the whole argument here is that Mopar fans do not want an electric car
@ducktails1695
7 ай бұрын
MOPAR fans will just have to get over themselves too because eventually one way or another it's gonna happen and it's going to happen to all manufacturers, not just Dodge. It's already happening in fact. @@ubeuonly
@ubeuonly
7 ай бұрын
@@ducktails1695 it is in fact the future. 5 years 10 years.....
@4literv6
7 ай бұрын
@@ubeuonly worldwide ev sales more than 10x since 2017, up 69% yoy in January of 2024 vs jan of 2023. The US alone sold more evs in 2023 than the whole world did in 2017. They only need to 6x from here to eliminate ice. My guess is 2027 or 2028 will be the last year of production at scale profitably for ice sales.
@williamg2552
7 ай бұрын
I think that DODGE should save some of those HELLCAT ENGINES for a new VIPER !!
@vettesweetnos
7 ай бұрын
A midengine viper and that taller engine and supercharger would fit fine
@jointhefist1016
7 ай бұрын
I think it'd be better for a new viper to have a v10 like it did before Not that the v8 is bad
@MH-so9oz
7 ай бұрын
Yeah. Call it the Corviper. No thanks. Viper needs a V10. Otherwise, let the Viper rest in peace.
@rodyjperez7659
7 ай бұрын
Yes on the hellcat!
@LeadfootLou
7 ай бұрын
Not sure that Dodge will be able to do anything with the dealership owners. The Stellantis dealership owners are upset with the manufacturer because they’re making them sell vehicles nobody wants to buy.
@nascarnut00
7 ай бұрын
plus they see stellantis making 18 billion net profit year after year , so no ceo gonna tell them they cant make a profit while the company makes record profits
@Steve23-392
7 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you for the update and potential Charger options.
@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod
7 ай бұрын
I have to be honest.i thing the new Charger looks cheap.. enjoy all the vids brother!
@bawlout9367
7 ай бұрын
It's a Dodge. They are cheap and cheap looking. Nothing exotic or luxury about a Dodge vehicle ever.
@NXT_LVL
7 ай бұрын
You never sat in or owned a dodge from the 80s 90s and early 00s? Plus why spend millions when they dont have to... same with building houses. shorten 10ft of wiring per 100 homes built. Adds up quick.
@flesherthepleasure66
7 ай бұрын
Yeah i older models are so much better looking i agree with you
@jaybman2700
7 ай бұрын
I have a Tesla, that’s enough electricity for me, I will buy gas cars from here out, the Tesla is really fun but so is my hellcat
@stevesmith6236
7 ай бұрын
Trolling much Dodge hater?@@bawlout9367
@bongslaw23
7 ай бұрын
Im interested to see what people will do with the hurricane charger . I know its easily going to be faster than the 6.4 , but i believe most would probably delete the muffler or change the stock exhaust. I wonder how it would sound.
@belloa3026
7 ай бұрын
Trump said he will bring back these cars.Remember to vote. We can save America
@sneezinhatch
7 ай бұрын
If dodge was smart and released an ev over 4 years ago like ford did to meet the EPA standards well we will still have the hellcat. Cant wait for the mustang gtd
@Reaper1008
7 ай бұрын
I think its funny they call it a Banshee.. When in GTA the Banshee is based off of the Viper.
@RedHammerBodyShop
7 ай бұрын
A BANSHEE is a Yamaha twin 350cc 4 wheeler, and anything else called a Banshee is a name stealing pos.
@EricGallant24
7 ай бұрын
A banshee is a female spirit from Irish folklore.... Yamaha didn't invent the word @@RedHammerBodyShop
@RedHammerBodyShop
7 ай бұрын
@@EricGallant24 no shit Sherlock. But it's more know for a quad than anything else. I doubt very seriously an electronic car is gonna live up to being a "SCREAMING GHOST" beings it fucking silent.
@justme307
7 ай бұрын
"The Pontiac Banshee is a line of concept cars designed by Pontiac, assuming the role previously established by General Motors' Firebirds of the 1950s. Four Banshee "dream cars" were fabricated through 1988 as design exercises intended to establish exterior and interior themes that could be modified for production versions of Pontiac sports and performance cars. Banshee was also the leading candidate for Pontiac's version of the Camaro before being named Firebird in light of any deathly associations of the word Banshee."
@PuttBlug69
7 ай бұрын
@@RedHammerBodyShoplol weirdo. i can tell you have no friends
@timashley6013
7 ай бұрын
Racer X you are a class act!
@erictaylor1320
7 ай бұрын
Great video RacerX. I’m definitely excited to see what the gas engine offerings are going to be in the new Charger.
@shekharmoona544
7 ай бұрын
The lack of a challenger convertible is a travesty in the modern era.
@CALISPEC1
7 ай бұрын
@Butterdainsider said it months ago and he had good info to back it up. The EPA shouldn’t matter because the ICE engine MPGs would be off set by the EV version. That’s why Ford did “Mustang” Mach E, so they could keep producing a V8 Mustang.
@RacerX9
7 ай бұрын
What I’m saying isn’t what he was saying.. this won’t be a mass production offering in my mind.. very limited run one year.
@Matthew-21_22
7 ай бұрын
All major EV makers except Tesla are greatly reducing production. As for Dodge, they're buying credits from Tesla to help offset EPA'S ridiculous demands.
@turbo8454
7 ай бұрын
The minimum CAFE standards go up every year. So the production mix that just made it through last year without fines might not meet the increased standards for the following year.
@marktarascio4766
7 ай бұрын
You know they aren't selling anything be cause of all the price gouging. The cost of all the things that you don't drive continues to climb. The last thing anyone will need this year is a new car except internet influencers.
@jamessneed8789
7 ай бұрын
They starting to price out the average fans.
@slimhardaway8
7 ай бұрын
These vehicles were never designed for the average Joe even before the inflation and markups!
@geton411
7 ай бұрын
@@slimhardaway8yeah they were
@ducktails1695
7 ай бұрын
Most vehicles today are priced out of the range of average people in general. Not just Dodge but most any vehicle today. This is why people are either leasing or taking out 72-84 month loans on a vehicle.
@kdcustoms1272
7 ай бұрын
starting? lol
@mucleboy0151
7 ай бұрын
@@slimhardaway8 30k is affordable the avg car now is prob 40k hell r u saying
@ericligotke3542
7 ай бұрын
I’m super happy, believe it or not, with my 2015 sxt with all options available, including the trak pac, sports pac, and the performance package. Has 62,000 original miles, gets me up to 29 mpg with the pentastar v6. Bright white with black factory side body stripes. Still have three speeding tickets!
@ericligotke3542
7 ай бұрын
Edit. Has traction control too
@bullittboost6046
7 ай бұрын
I’m definitely interested in the 25 Charger. So far I like what I have seen.
@williamrose7818
7 ай бұрын
That’s what I’ve been waiting for.. able to beat a hellcat for scat price..
@markelraya10
7 ай бұрын
@@williamrose7818if you think it will be a scat price you’re wrong
@joshlamar1990
7 ай бұрын
@@williamrose7818scat price? you dreaming for sure.
@firedemon2166
7 ай бұрын
@@williamrose7818You still kinda lose in comparison though because you have a 6 cylinder Charger
@DarkMortality1
7 ай бұрын
Anything on what the cops will use? 4 door charger???? They have some different features usually in there like awd and brakes and such?
@thetexianpatriot2201
7 ай бұрын
I’m curious about the new Charger. EV or otherwise. I don’t think I’ll be purchasing a first year model though. Unless Dodge releases a Hellcat version. Until then… I’ll stick w/my Scat Pack. Thanks for the video update @RacerX
@paulfretz6777
7 ай бұрын
If it’s lighter, and comes with 3 pedals, with 500+ hp I would consider it.
@dinadaughtry8993
7 ай бұрын
Love the Super Bee, my first car was a 72Charger and I have had quite a few Mopars since (at least 6-7) and in my opinion they would be making a big mistake if they don't make a V8 engine available for the Daytona and the Challenger electric is fine for golf carts but the ice V8 has the sound and soul of America
@gavinlamp
7 ай бұрын
I love the advancement of technology. And I'm not mad or disappointed about a lighter chassis and more powerful lighter engine. But you'll never get the sound of a 6.4l hemi unless you have a 6.4l hemi. And, I don't mind cruising around at 40 mph and hearing the engine make all the right noises and having a sound track going to hwy speeds at a faster rate than most other cars out there. The Hurricane engine will be a weapon though, and I'm really excited to see people mess with them in the new Dodge chassis.
@crazypkm
7 ай бұрын
No v8 sound = boring . I could get a bmw if I want a performance v6
@joshg4953
7 ай бұрын
Not technically, I mean the new Toyota tundra have twin turbo v6s and yet when you drive them, it sounds just like a V8 almost. Least according to the videos I've seen of people driving them, only thing missing is obviously the V8 and the rumble, but it does mimic it
@firedemon2166
7 ай бұрын
@@joshg4953Why settle for something that mimics a V8 when they are still being made by other brands
@joshg4953
7 ай бұрын
@@firedemon2166 Only brands that have the v8s after this year is Ford, Chevy and GMC. I'm not a big fan of those though
@firedemon2166
7 ай бұрын
@@joshg4953 Not a massive fan of Ford but I would rather have a V8 Mustang than a 6 cylinder in what’s supposed to be a muscle car
@Hellcat-pg5pq
7 ай бұрын
I've been less than impressed from Dodge lately, but if they stuff a Hellcat in the new Charger it will get my attention! Hybrid Hellcat/EV anyone?
@shmiggz
7 ай бұрын
The new charger is also very ugly. Good luck selling that hatchback!
@cristianisbae6452
7 ай бұрын
Dodge need to put the hell cat motor and put it against the hurricane motor and show side by side that the hurricane motor is better then hellcats.
@Matthew-21_22
7 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter to me what they may have, if it's not V8 Hemi Challenger, count me out. In a couple years, when my 21 scat T/A Challenger is paid off, I will look to add Mustang to our stable. Ford knows the market better.
@mogulme6190
7 ай бұрын
Dudes who like v8s are stubborn. They rather their favorite brand go under trying to keep a v8 around with less performance than for them to evolve.
@rrrlr5
7 ай бұрын
Yes, Maserati GranTurismo Folgore has three 300 kW electric motors; totaling 900 kW (equivalent 1200 HP). But, Maserati (on their website) states the battery pack can only continously discharge 760 HP to the motors.
@Jays5.0-x6o
7 ай бұрын
Dodge better step up build quality my challenger and Jeep were both traded in
@craigm2484
7 ай бұрын
You are asking for ALOT HP& Build Quality ! Comon man 😁
@Jays5.0-x6o
7 ай бұрын
@@craigm2484 😂
@redhunnid5142
7 ай бұрын
You want a 700HP and Mercedes build quality from Dodge a muscle car brand 😐
@evildrizzt1
7 ай бұрын
Quality is fine. You just need to stop skipping the maintenance. My 06 magnum SRT8 still going after 340k miles
@BoostedYote
7 ай бұрын
Same with my 2019 Ram 1500 warlock 40k miles and had more problems than a 90s Chevy. Bought myself a supercharged F-150 RCSB XL lol sad part is the base ford is so much nicer than my warlock it’s kinda frightening 😅.
@JustinRoberts-nm6un
7 ай бұрын
Oh hell yeah!!!! Yes Dodge PLEASE make the hellcat engine an option in the new Charger!!!!! This is great news!!!
@bryans8897
7 ай бұрын
So all wheel drive, EV or turbo 6. What exactly makes this a muscle car. It’s a sports car now not a muscle car.
@meishere4429
7 ай бұрын
Is the grand national a muscle car? Do you want Dodge to bring back the 440 six pack and make it run on leaded gas only?
@stangmanshelby5330
7 ай бұрын
No V8 in the works, gas options will be 4cyl turbo found in the Wrangler. This will be the rental car special. Also a smaller PSA European 4cyl (150hp) hybrid variant possible as well. All high performance offerings will be EV’s for now. Hemi production will decline to 6.4L only variant for 2500 Heavy Duty Rams.
@americanosbadassius9292
7 ай бұрын
I'd ROCK a 375 horsepower Charger in the new body style and be happy with it stock! But we all know that engine can be made to run wonders!
@patcurrie9888
7 ай бұрын
The 2 door Charger is coming back as an EV
@americanosbadassius9292
7 ай бұрын
@@patcurrie9888 This video and other sources I've checked with suggest that it may be more expensive than just an EV model. Let's hope that Dodge hasn't gone full Kommie, like their Beeitch mom Stellantis is. Oops, too late, Dodge already Beeitched up, dam.
@tim4269
7 ай бұрын
I bought a real Charger new in 1969 440 R/T for $3975. It also was rated at 375hp.
@americanosbadassius9292
7 ай бұрын
@@tim4269 I'd love to have that car today!
@JenkinsOnDaBeat
7 ай бұрын
I gotta be honest. I don’t see any of us regular people spending 90k on a electric muscle car when I can spend that on a ford mustang gt500
@akelk1720
7 ай бұрын
If I I bought the V6 version of the charger, I would take the motor that can without and put a hellcat in it myself.
@angeloavanti2538
7 ай бұрын
The rear pillar and window reminds me of the '67 Charger. Nice!
@supercg49
7 ай бұрын
Oh so the Chevy volt
@Stufftowatch21
7 ай бұрын
Long live V8 HEMI SUPERCHARGE 💪💪💪💪
@billjamison2877
7 ай бұрын
If the Charger has an ICE powerplant, I'm all in! If it's only electric...NEVER!
@mrbdx
7 ай бұрын
Let’s ask this question. WHY is Stellantis (Dodge/Ram/Jeep) getting rid of ALL its V8 engines…but Ford and GM are NOT!? Ford still has the Raptor R and the Mustang with big V8’s GM has the Corvette with V8 and their trucks still have V8’s
@GokuGaming
7 ай бұрын
imagine someone hacking the software and just giving you banshee power immediately on a base model
@joshreynolds729
7 ай бұрын
I for it please make the ultimate version of the hellcat that we all wanted. Hellcat v8 with electric motors for awd. The holy grail would be a twin turbo hellcat on awd built with the electric assist. Or hell a built big cubic inch motor with a big blower and the ev awd. Either one would do nicely.
@caesarsteels
7 ай бұрын
Shit look like those 2 door dodge Avengers from 20 years ago
@Oliver-ft2fq
7 ай бұрын
I have lost hope with Dodge. Watch it be a 100k + version of it. Besides they have done nothing to stop greedy dealership mark ups. Power dollars are back and a dealership around my area trying to sell an R/T for 55k and making it seem like it’s discounted with Dodge incentives 😀.
@ledzepp13s41
7 ай бұрын
My local Dodge Dealer wants $299,900.00 for a 2023 Hellcat Demon! F'n Stupid!
@campingtree102
7 ай бұрын
I hope they make some of those new chargers 6 speed manuals
@Derek-pq3zb
7 ай бұрын
AGREED!!!!….they def need to come out with a six speed manual car
@ducktails1695
7 ай бұрын
As much as you want one, manual vehicles just don't sell.
@Andybojangles
7 ай бұрын
1) if dodge wants to compete with other ev's they need awd. 2) if you think about it, the banshee would have to be awd. what are you going to have 3 motors going only to the rear wheels? no
@1badcaddy1
7 ай бұрын
Obviously government restrictions are determining what production will be. What if you could buy the cheapest model then also could buy a complete swap kit you could do yourself ? Kinda like stage kits
@shanemenard6057
7 ай бұрын
Sell extremely high priced fuel efficient base models then offer for $1 insane how dare you drivetrain upgrade kit. Now that's what I call a power dollar
@RollinIsbell
7 ай бұрын
Yes, any HEMI in the new 2-Door Charger would be cool. And they will be priced beyond unobtanium levels. I also think that if the new Charger proves to be popular at all... then prices on the leftover 2023 cars will really plummet. Dodge dealers will become the automotive equivalent of a "day old bread store." Still .... I think some of us will look at it as just another lie from Dodge. We were led to believe that the 2023 "Last Call" Challengers and Chargers were the end of the HEMI engines. When the "no more HEMI" announcement was made, I told friends that I didn't believe it and expected Dodge to come out with ... "oh, we just found 500 HEMI engines in a warehouse and are going to put these in cars available to the highest bidders." BTW ...... When Dodge stepped in to make the serviceman whole on his 170 .... it was mentioned that the car he is getting was coming out of a reserve allocation of 170s. Any word on where those cars were allocated? Or ... was that all a lie?
@lagerbeer1974
7 ай бұрын
Man that ladder hanging right there by the Demon makes me nervous lol. Great vid.
@shanemenard6057
7 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same
@MikeyMopar392
7 ай бұрын
I know right!! My man better be putting a few extra zip ties on that thing😅
@user-ok7mq8pb7n
7 ай бұрын
That latter not going no where😂😂
@kevinfiveash6615
7 ай бұрын
Brother has C7 z06 with ladder on wall. Came home from work and it was on the z. Got a nice set of surface scratches. Mostly buffed out but lesson learned. He blames wife but she was at work too.😊
@lagerbeer1974
7 ай бұрын
@@kevinfiveash6615 I don't mean to laugh at your brother's misfortune, but the part about him blaming his wife is funny 😂
@jonpiona8662
7 ай бұрын
If dodge doesn’t do something different I give them 5 years before there are bankrupt because let be honest no one gave a look there way before the Hellcat and scatpack it just the truth
@hachyboy45769
7 ай бұрын
Dodge was on top bc HEMI engines, without them, they’re trash tbh.
@GabeDeFeo
7 ай бұрын
If they brought back the hellcat engine and put it in this car after they said, this was the last call, they will get their asses sued off!
@turnerruma5977
7 ай бұрын
I hope AWD will be an option. Dodge ruined the Charger when they got rid of an AWD V8, and the V8. Imagine how much fun an AWD Scat Pack 392 would be with snow tires on the track and road.
@jameseroh6544
7 ай бұрын
Been a Mopar fan since the early 1960's. I got my driver's license in April 1972. Curently we have 6 Mopar vehicles at my house. While the Hurricane engine is different. It is different in a good way. Since the cylinders have a plasma spray, the cylinder bores will be quite tough. I wouldn't be surprised if a rebuild may include new rings and no cylinder work. I have made aluminum clutches for race cars that had a .040" thick plasma coating. And after a season of racing, virtually no wear on the pressure plate or clutch face. The floating plate was sintered iron. I would have preferred a 4.0L, 4 or 6 cylinder. Maybe a future engine. Wouldn't mind if our Ram 2500 had a 4 cylinder Cummins for more payload capacity. We currently average 22mpg with our 4Wheel popup camper on board. The future engines will be different, and may put the Hemi engines of any generation to shame.
@richardwray8478
7 ай бұрын
Just went to the Pittsburgh Auto show. The Dodge / Jeep area was sad. The Stelantis person just pushed the EV and hybrid narratives. My last response is that I hope you like all that unsold inventory that nobody wants.
@snell9944
7 ай бұрын
If the speculations are true of a I6 version then it just sets up direct connection to sell those 5.7's, 6.2's, 6.4's and the Hellephant's for engine swaps at the dealership just like Don Yenko and Fred Gibb did in the 60s. If the dealerships won't offer an engine swap there will be plenty of speedshop/custom shops that will. Personally for me its not about how fast or quick the car is. I want to hear the sound of a V8. So, if the new Charger comes with a I6 I definitely will be getting the base model just to do a engine swap. #keepthev8alive #longlivethehemi
@meishere4429
7 ай бұрын
Wrong. Direct connection will offer packages to get hellcat horsepower out of the I6. People will find out very quickly that the big NA hemis can’t compete with the I6.
@snell9944
7 ай бұрын
Reread my post as I said "I" meaning me myself and I want to hear the sound of a V8. I meaning me myself and I could careless about the performance or how fast or quick a I6 can do. I meaning me myself and I want a V8 not a 6 banger. So again "IF" the new charger has two version electric and ice I meaning me myself and I will buy a base model just to do a V8 swap because I meaning me myself and I loves the sound of V8. Makes sense??? @meishere4429
@billhawkins7640
7 ай бұрын
Many problems with the hurricane engine. Starting with no oil dipstick and the oil sensor faulty. Batteries draining and leaving owners stranded. Once batteries are drained they can’t be jump started. I’ve got a wagoneer and in 4 months of ownership it’s been in the shop for 2 months.
@bs7886
7 ай бұрын
If Dodge wants to make any money they need to figure out how to keep selling the HELLCAT motor period. I don't believe the EV cars will sell very well. Dodge just messed up by trying to get rid of the HELLCAT powered vehicles 🤬🤡🤡🤡
@mucleboy0151
7 ай бұрын
U mean srt brand cuz 6.4 sell alot too
@bs7886
7 ай бұрын
@@mucleboy0151 I don't mean anything 😁
@mucleboy0151
7 ай бұрын
@@bs7886 wat
@angelcruz7919
7 ай бұрын
I don't think Dodge will do something about dealerships, until "We The People" stop buying those cars like we are doing right now, I see in my area a lot Dodge dealerships overstock with a bunch of Challengers and Chargers, as much as I like the brand I was going to upgrade my 2013 RT Challenger for a newer model I decided not to and wait, because these dealerships are out of control, and I believe, there's a lot of people thinking like me, we are the ones who has to say enough is enough, again I love the brand, Mopar runs through my veins, I had an '09 before then I upgraded to a '13 Challenger, again "Enough is Enough".
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