After testing this extensively, if you don't have hydro, you can't wait until you see the torps to DCP the ping (like you do against other subs), because the torps are so stealthy and the homing is so aggressive, by the time you see them it's already too late. That 21:30 cross-torp ambush really says it all, DCPing the ping after seeing the torps wouldn't have saved me, as the ambush was already setup. The torps also do this crazy turning around to chase you, as shown here: clips.twitch.tv/LongScrumptiousAardvarkKeyboardCat-iK6TCowlT0-Cx8N3
@lewiskellett5654
Жыл бұрын
It's clearly a skill issue
@AdamtheRed-
Жыл бұрын
Not sure what the problem is. Just submerge or take off. You clearly need to find a better way to interact with submarines. Clearly.
@robertanderson6929
Жыл бұрын
And now you know why I got banned from their FORUMS and quit playing. I was literally asking how I was expected to fight a submarine who knew what he was doing and the moderators jumped in and basically said, "Git gud scrub!" Then they banned me from asking any further questions. You MUST turn in and try to shorten the distance as that is the only possible way to shake the torps. Trying to run from them just lets him send salvo after salvo up your wake that you cannot dodge. The torps are just too fast and maneuverable to run from. And using DCP before you are flooding is suicide because you are going to flood out if you do. If you team does not focus the sub down before he sinks you then you're toast. If the sub doesn't get you then you'll end up spotted and broadside to the enemy while dodging and they'll get you.
@MERLK2
Жыл бұрын
Clearly you didn`t try the following simple manouver(s) to deal with submarines in WoWS. a) press ALT+F4 b) optional - check your antivirus system and block the wargaming client in it, if it has that function c) uninstall WoWS Client But jokes aside - it hurts how they ruined the game. And then seemingly went ... how can we ruin it even harder/more
@emperorlelouch8515
Жыл бұрын
But Kitakami is too much apparently lmao
@eugenekrabsalt
Жыл бұрын
I like how the slow homing torps are advertised as a weakness, while in reality it just makes their turning circle tighter...
@OverlordAntares
Жыл бұрын
It's like an aircraft doing a 9g turn at 600 knots vs 400 knots. The turning circle is tighter.
@zacharyjackson1829
Жыл бұрын
"We gave it slow torps so you could watch and ponder over your death while wondering why you play our game. Now please give us a hundred dollars for the experience!" 😁
@jaywerner8415
Жыл бұрын
Where is THAT advertised? Homing torps are HARDLY slow quite the opposite in fact. Just like with US dreadnaughts people complain how slow they are but fail to mention how easily they can turn. Thus is the law of hydrodynamics and/or laws of physics.
@Joshua-fi4ji
Жыл бұрын
@@jaywerner8415 I have Alliance and the homing torps do 44 knots with speed boosts. Most ships can just outrun them, especially if 7km or more away (they're slower than Blacks torps). They only work well against targets close to you or pushing into you. The unguided torps (7km) are better in my experience and do a lot more damage. It's still powerful boat.
@jaywerner8415
Жыл бұрын
@@Joshua-fi4ji 44 knots? Wow that is slow. No wonder they can turn so well, speaking from XP from the US and German subs their torps go twice that speed. Whats the range of the homing torps out of curiosity? Probably about 10-12kms i take it? Damage is the whole point of the unguided torps. Frankly i wish the torpedo speeds of tech line Subs where SWAPED, cus besides damage the "ALT" torps are worse in every way (on paper). Cus oh my god a torpedo that goes less then 70 knots is just PAINFUL to watch.
@SelikBzdy
Жыл бұрын
It feels like you are trying to fight a gen-4 fighter with homing missiles while driving a grossery cart. So much fun.
@Sky_Guy
Жыл бұрын
Me shopping for torps in my Grossery Kartfurst.
@Onezmhu
Жыл бұрын
@@Sky_Guy lmfao nice one
@tpark2316
Жыл бұрын
He’s right, this sub is very gross
@malamutekid8871
Жыл бұрын
@@Sky_Guy I'm actually dead from this 😂
@user-ds5xl5qi1t
Жыл бұрын
@@Sky_Guywhat a joke
@annex3762
Жыл бұрын
Even torpedoes in Star Trek being hundreds of years in the future dont have that kind of homing capability. WW2 tech truly was state of the art!
@AdamtheRed-
Жыл бұрын
It always seemed like ST torpedoes were point and shoot, i dont think they home. Except that one in The Undiscovered Country that was specifically modified to seek the Bird of Preys exhaust.
@firesb7791
Жыл бұрын
Honestly this is pretty much late cold War tier homing, a torpedo being avoided, circling around and still hitting the ship is the sort of thing you'd except from the ADCAP, not WW2
@GoldenSkies061
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamtheRed- Torps in star trek do home in, I believe there's a few other episodes that mention them being guided.
@glennv3176
Жыл бұрын
@@firesb7791 real life torpedoes can't intercept, they can only track (home) - This is technology that does not exist in 2023, not in torpedoes anyway.
@firesb7791
Жыл бұрын
@@glennv3176 Actually, I believe some of the modern NATO torpedoes post-ADCAP do have the capability to predict trajectory and target accordingly, apparently the capabilities of British submarines especially are pretty insane
@beshtaa
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY what we all wanted. Active player numbers are prooving it too. Everyone is happy.
@AdamtheRed-
Жыл бұрын
Its totally true! I was so stoked with where the game is headed that i stopped playing. Now I'm super sad. (I also dont understand the difference between my emotions)
@6uiti
Жыл бұрын
Played back in 12.0 wanted to play with new ita cruiser buffs and take out Gorizia and Kronstadt, after seeing this game can stay unupdated. 20k battles they destroyed my most relaxing game. Im sad too ngl 😢
@kal_mwt7372
Жыл бұрын
And this is on the LIVE Server... Who is testing this and thinks this is fine.
@AdamtheRed-
Жыл бұрын
They've fired the testing staff and used that money to buy back shares in their stock.
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf
Жыл бұрын
The same idiots who thought IJN CLs were overpowered so they got it nerfed countless time before they hit live server...
@Momofukudoodoowindu
Жыл бұрын
The 16 year olds they hired from the last dev video we saw.
@peepostinger2790
Жыл бұрын
Couple of my friends were CSTs and gave up after some time. Entire CST server provided feedback and ways to improve for ijn cl and performance of subs. You wanna know what wg did? threw it into papershredder and REMOVED ,,FEEDBACK" SECTION FROM CST DC entirely. Now the only feedback, people can provide is ,,do you like the *insert new test ship name* ? 1)yes 2) No
@Lt_Voss
Жыл бұрын
@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf Wait what, that's why I think I'm having a poor time in them? I haven't played in years (stopped shortly after the carrier rework), but my father still plays and wanted to play with me, so I jumped through every hoop imaginable to install this thing on my linux computer (a freaking nightmare), then took a look at what I could do in the game while I play with my pops, and saw shiny new IJN CLs. And now you're telling me they've been nerfed into the ground before I even got a chance to play them?!
@user-sg7hq2oz3u
Жыл бұрын
this kind of torp should be called an anti-ship missile.
@grandgao3984
Жыл бұрын
Trust me anti-ship missiles weren't that good a few decades ago, even now only the best could come close to dat
@malamutekid8871
Жыл бұрын
torpedoes are actually considered underwater missiles. the only difference is that they move in 2 dimensions rather than 3.
@OverlordAntares
Жыл бұрын
@@malamutekid8871Depends on the era of torpedoes. Modern torps like the MK48 or Spearfish move 3D like missiles.
@malamutekid8871
Жыл бұрын
@@OverlordAntares yeah, more modern ones do. the older ones usually move in two dimensions, especially if we're only talking about World of warships
@ma6netho
Жыл бұрын
anti wows players, more like, only cv and sub players left soon
@kagakai7729
Жыл бұрын
The torpedo knows where it is at all times
@nonowgoaway
Жыл бұрын
It knows where it is because it knows where it isn't.
@mondinik2378
Жыл бұрын
I like how with CVs you need at least another ally to create a cross-fire. This thing creates cross-fires by itself.
@kaollachan
Жыл бұрын
and then Double alliance game ... enjoy XD
@MetalMachine131
Жыл бұрын
Well, I predicted missiles for the game, I just didnt think they would be under water...
@Arisudev
Жыл бұрын
Same
@taterkaze9428
Жыл бұрын
Torps that out-turn DDs? Pure magic. WoWS turning into a fantasy game.
@hipperguy1654
Жыл бұрын
@@AKUJIVALDO vatnik cope trash
@AKUJIVALDO
Жыл бұрын
@@hipperguy1654 one MSM consumer detected. Ukraine is "winning" one year later...with their tanks in Moscow as Elentsky said... Oh wait... LOL
@vicamu541
Жыл бұрын
@@AKUJIVALDO just like russians coming back out of ukraine.. fantasy game
@JohnDiabol
Жыл бұрын
Well, technically torpedoes like that did exist. Although they didn't come around until the 1960's. No destroyer in the world can dodge a Mk48 torpedo for very long. There were homing torpedoes in WW2 as well, that homed in on the sound of a ship's engine and propellers.
@sabrewolf4129
15 күн бұрын
That happened when they added the ARP and Hentai crap to the game.
@antraxxslingshots
Жыл бұрын
I lost it the moment he said: "This is live" How did THIS pass testing? WTF?
@antraxxslingshots
Жыл бұрын
@Mathew Long But they want and need to earn money right?
@Myomer104
Жыл бұрын
@@antraxxslingshots They get it by people wanting to buy the overpowered shit. Once any purchase is made by a player, WG stops caring about what they do. They've already got the money.
@andrash9433
Жыл бұрын
About a month ago I finally got tilted enough to delete my WG account that I registered in 2015 due to CVs, subs, and forced 2-tier-difference matchmakings (rendering T9 ships unplayable). At first I had regrets, but thanks to your videos those feelings are quickly fading. 15K battles played, 700 EUR spent, 59.8% solo wr reached (too bad, i really wanted that 60, oh well). Rest in Hell.
@Dbars19
Жыл бұрын
no one cares.
@3men219
Жыл бұрын
You could've just sold your account, at least make some of that cash back
@RedShocktrooperRST
Жыл бұрын
@@3men219 Who the fuck would buy a world of warships account lmao?
@rigeol9425
Жыл бұрын
That’s no more making me angry, i’m just so sad to see this game i had so much fun in being bucher like that
@AdamtheRed-
Жыл бұрын
I'm right there with you. Five years and thousands of hours wasted on this game that I used to love.
@NerothLoD
Жыл бұрын
WTF. These are like MK 48's. I guess they implemented torpedoes from 2023, but everything else is WWII/Cold War era. Solid balancing.
@ymustitho6343
Жыл бұрын
Ww2 naval game btw
@firesb7791
Жыл бұрын
I knew from the beginning of submarines that those "one turn" homing tops would end up being ADCAPs, only I thought it would be a Soviet sub to get them first
@velocity790
Жыл бұрын
Since they're British.... Maybe closer to the Mk24 Tigerfish
@xmlthegreat
Жыл бұрын
@@firesb7791 same. I was like, " eventually, these things will turn around and chase you for next 10-15 mins and they will be fitted on an Alfa class"
@dodle1769
Жыл бұрын
They give subs/carriers modern things, but all the countermeasures we have against them are all ww2. There not gonna give us 2023 levels of AA/ASW :P
@setskov2900
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes subs hunting dds, how the tables have turned...
@Not_Laci
Жыл бұрын
Man this is so depressing, and the fact that wg said this is fine, is just baffling.
@madduckuk
Жыл бұрын
This is what will get people back, everyone will want to play this.
@nilsl.2445
Жыл бұрын
Would be great, think about selling my Account...started playing since the release...but now it is too much for me. Thank the lord I stopped spending money more than a year ago when Subs became a topic. This game and its "development" is a joke. Happy fantasy game. All the best WG. Once I am done I will never ever touch one of your F2P games again. waste of money
@johnvga6239
Жыл бұрын
21:37 guided javelin missiles 💀
@berndberndsen5680
Жыл бұрын
The more I see of subs and superships, the happier I am just relaxing in operations.
@kaollachan
Жыл бұрын
i just wish to have operation for sub ( no needing a freacking division)....
@justapanda7371
Жыл бұрын
The only thing I can think is wargaming isn’t making enough keeping the game going but they can’t just shut it down because of the backlash they’d get from those who have already sunk so much time and money into it. Instead they are making the game so unplayable that people will voluntarily quit until they can say they have to shut it down due to an insufficient player base.
@hond654
Жыл бұрын
Well, this is a very good point. They have cashed enough, time to shut down.
@robertanderson6929
Жыл бұрын
I think they are still making a profit but the curve is flattened and they lost a ton of money divesting themselves from Russia. Although they might have skipped out on some loans if the Russian mafia couldn't find them. No their problem is people like me. I'm not buying premium time nor playing the game. And I'm not the only one. They need lots of people paying for premium time to keep the game going. They thought Submarines would be a huge source of revenue but that's not likely to be the case. For everyone who might buy a Premium Sub, when available, an other group of players, like me, will stop playing altogether. In the end I suspect Subs to be a net loss and given the shaky ground WG is standing upon then in two or three more quarters they might be in serious trouble if not bankrupt.
@Sira_Kackavalj
Жыл бұрын
@@robertanderson6929 Plenty of Whales and degenerates both in Warships and Tanks to keep them going without caring about the playerbase
@klegdixal3529
Жыл бұрын
@@Sira_Kackavalj somebody needs to pad the server numbers to keep the game going. 3vs3 with a CV and 2 subs won't be fun even for a griefer.
@emmaquarzpeng
Жыл бұрын
They are doing perfectly fine, taifun-leader here with 65% - just quit the game ^^
@Bane_Diesel
Жыл бұрын
I love how the hardest thing to counter a sub in is a dd's depth charges. Like in my Halland it shoots them out of the front so if I stupidly run over the MF I have no counter I have to completely turn around. I also love that the most dangerous thing for a sub in real life was a dd but in this game dds get hunted by subs.
@AdamGibbyMC2012
Жыл бұрын
Right? How about a depth charge has the potential of knocking out the ability to dive.
@skarhabekgreyrukh8601
Жыл бұрын
battleship is the real sub counter in this game
@Bane_Diesel
Жыл бұрын
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 except when you only have a 4km range to drop charges on them.
@skarhabekgreyrukh8601
Жыл бұрын
@@Bane_Diesel 4 km is Cruiser range. Battleship is around 10km. Are you even play?
@Bane_Diesel
Жыл бұрын
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 lower tier bb im talking about where new players don't know how to just dodge. I am human.
@gothia1715
Жыл бұрын
Sick gameplay WG created there. 10/10
@estoyaqui5386
Жыл бұрын
A former clan-mate sent me the link to this video. I see, stop playing was a good decision. Last year I walked away from a 400-ship port, a year worth of premium time and abandoned the forums. Looking back I ca only shake my head to what WG has done to this game. And thank you Flamu, I learned a lot from you back when the game was fun.
@arsk5127
Жыл бұрын
Well I think it fits perfectly, since in 2023 WG/Lesta still thinks that people have to 1) suffer from some type of ship/mechanic, to 2) go and buy the same ship/mechanic to inflict suffering to others. Apparently just having fun and supporting the devs for making a good game to have fun in, is not an option. Apparently WG/Lesta know better, especially given the fact that online on falling for the past 5 years.
@benb6417
Жыл бұрын
"The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't." It's longer than that, but you get the idea... Now you can get crosstorped by the SAME submarine!
@g.leefinley1024
Жыл бұрын
“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.”
@professionalantichristhate528
Жыл бұрын
Damn, I wish my modern seeking missiles in War Thunder could track a target as well as these WW2 torpedos.
@Chris249224
Жыл бұрын
Ewww WT
@liquidgoose1518
Жыл бұрын
Wish my AMRAAM BVR missiles in DCS were so effective
@antraxxslingshots
Жыл бұрын
No idea what you were talking about, the Sub Player was clearly superior :D The crosstorp against the Kiew :D
@alfredneumann4332
Жыл бұрын
in the hinden game when the announcer said: "the battle begins!" only thing i could think of, it's only a batle if both sides stand a chance
@apizzapls
Жыл бұрын
Bruh this ship can literally create its own crossfire wtf
@filippomunari8147
Жыл бұрын
during ww2 attack a destroyer in a submarine was considered suicidal, in the thinking men’s action game a submarine can surface 500 mt in the port side of a yamato and eat a broadside without give a fuck
@OverlordAntares
Жыл бұрын
Destroyers were the natural predators of submarines, but in this game, they prey on DD's. I'm glad i stopped playing this shit a year ago.
@KaguyasBeat
Жыл бұрын
Based on testing results and community feedback, we have found the Just Dodge mechanic to be a blatant exploit at avoiding homing torpedoes, hindering submarine gameplay. Therefore: We have decided to sell a solution to this problem for all of our lovely sub players. Happy Hunting Captains! Love, Wargaming
@ricardoviera7713
Жыл бұрын
imagine doing all those turns to avoid a spam of torpedoes while being shot by a Yamato and company, xD
@sparky1595
Жыл бұрын
That Kiev clip truly is a clip of all time
@peepostinger2790
Жыл бұрын
Some people are wondering ,,how thiss passed the testing?'' . I will give you a clue. WG removed ,,feedback'' section from CST DC entirely.
@deleted_215
Жыл бұрын
Nobody: WoWs “torpedoes”: *Highway to the Danger Zone starts blasting in the background*
@SofaKingA
Жыл бұрын
This is in my top 5 favorite Flamu vids of all time.
@b-spiral8314
Жыл бұрын
I haven't even thought about wows for months till flamu suddenly showed up in my YT recommended. I'm surprised you guys still play. Once you break the habit of logging in, eventually all the frustration and itch to play go away. Then you forget about the game entirely.
@NoBallsInWomensStalls
Жыл бұрын
Next patch WG is introducing LRAD to all ships. Each time you activate your horn it causes an extremely painful high pitched noise into your enemies earphones. HIGHLY effective against anything with hearing.
@Andreas_T
Жыл бұрын
With this sub and torps we are progressing from "just dodge" to "just die". Seems reasonable in WoWs lately.
@MajikMidnight
Жыл бұрын
Just to put a number on it, the minimum homing range for Alliance on Destroyers is 110m for a single ping and 70m for a double ping, on Cruisers it's 650m and 330m and for Battleships it's 900m and 750m. So add that to their extreme manoeuvrability and low reload and you get a full on WG moment.
@TallulahSoie
Жыл бұрын
1:32 "You arrogant ass. You've killed us!"
@tramapolean
Жыл бұрын
Best advert for a new premium ship ever! ;-)
@bachelorchownowwithflavor3712
Жыл бұрын
I have a technique for dodging homing torps that is 100% guaranteed to work every time: uninstall and play a better game.
@matthewphelps5136
Жыл бұрын
I imagine the weegee discussion went something like this. Weegee: Ok bois, we need new ships in the game......Go. Underling: Submarines sir? Weegee: I love it. Now, really blow my mind. How do they work? Underling: Homing torps sir? Weegee: Give that man a raise.
@RoycePhillips
Жыл бұрын
2:44 5:55 21:35 These are certified Cold Waters moments. If this is a T8 British, imagine if WeeGee develops a Russian tree ending in a T11 Oscar-class with this homing BS.
@scheimong
Жыл бұрын
At this point they might as well give them wire-guided Mk48 adcaps. I mean, the pincer trickshot at the end is the kind of sht I do in Cold Waters with my Seawolf 🤣
@memyshelfandeye318
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what they did. They only forgot to put the correct name on them.
@rebelsoldier8013
Жыл бұрын
OMG that cross drop on the Kiev needs to be clipped
@mr.skully8787
Жыл бұрын
Extremely fun and engaging
@pendragooon
Жыл бұрын
I will constantly rage quick once an Allinace enters battle.
@captainkreutzer3208
Жыл бұрын
The torpedo knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the torpedo from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the torpedo is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the torpedo must also know where it was. The torpedo guidance computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the torpedo has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "sea"
@arkenthor8106
Жыл бұрын
I remember that the homing was supposed to stop at a certain distance from the targetted ship. Obviously this is no longer a thing
@EvoraGT430
Жыл бұрын
Just 60 meters for this POS. Way to kill the game, idiot WG.
@AdamtheRed-
Жыл бұрын
True, but for DDs the homing-stop distance is about half the length of the DD. Something like 200 meters. Just submerge comrade.
@KalleKantola
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamtheRed- Alliance specifically has improved homing which is around half the normal distance or better. With DDs 1 ping wont stop homing until 220m (normally 440m), with 2 pings it wont stop homing until 70m (normally 220m).
@AlekTrev006
Жыл бұрын
I picture, one of these days, at WG-HQ, there’ll be that moment like from the one Terminator movie… where a VP reports to CEO Kislyi about cratered Player Numbers… CEO looks up…stares straight ahead, and says… “We have destroyed OURSELVES..!!?” 😂
@Arclite02
Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes... The Mk.48 ADCAP/CBASS, the torpedo system that won WW2...
@j_ro
Жыл бұрын
this is what happens when WG decides that "Just Dodge" has become too effective
@user-jm8sy5ox2j
Жыл бұрын
So basically you have to stay out of torp range of this new sub or there is no way to avoid the torpedoes, but if you go out of torp range you have to go to open water spawn where you get farmed by battleships shooting plane spotted targets or you hide behind islands and get farmed by CVs. WG must be competing to see what the most absurd thing is that they can add to the game without it crashing and burning overnight
@jesperviktorsson8027
Жыл бұрын
IRIS-T. Misses but comes back and tries again
@OwenAce
Жыл бұрын
The torpedo knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
@mussolinipizza6697
Жыл бұрын
Playerbase says remove homing torps. What does WeeGee do? New premium sub with enhanced homing.
@EvoraGT430
Жыл бұрын
True madness.
@septia101
Жыл бұрын
Sub is firing AIM-9 sidewinders....
@_lime.
Жыл бұрын
I ran into an Alliance in the Hipper yesterday. Spotted him on the surface. Saw a wave of tops and managed to damage control the first ping, still ate a couple tops. What I didn't know was that he had launched those a while ago. Second ping came in along with another wave of torps. I couldn't do anything. It was more than enough to kill me. 30 second reload vs a minute plus for damage control. People complained about German sub torp spam but the U-190 has a 58 second reload, nearly double.
@italomorais9424
Жыл бұрын
Idk what you guys are complaining about it. I always had trouble landing torpedoes , and now wargaming is offering me the chance to be a super unicum, I just need to pay the totally reasonable price of 47K doubloons.
@jammers195
Жыл бұрын
"The Torpedo knows where it is, because it knows where it isn't "
@Gunni1972
Жыл бұрын
I just wanna see their Unicorn-proof Tutorial mission on "How to avoid Submarine Torps".
@HAWK...214
Жыл бұрын
another nail in the coffin of this game
@skyalan2147
Жыл бұрын
I was already playing less and less over the past 6 months but I think this is the final nail in the coffin for me with this game. I loved this game but they are just killing all my will to play this game.
@Drunk_n_Sailr
Жыл бұрын
When "just dodge" was too effective
@GA_Thrawn445
Жыл бұрын
thank god we the silent majority wanted this Kappa
@Sleep-is-overrated
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, Mk. 48 ADCAPs are now a thing in WOWS. I would say have fun but the only one having fun here is the sub
@krishwashere2
Жыл бұрын
I got absolutely crushed by a coop bot alliance. not stop torps coming every 5 seconds, + pings, + insane curving ... wargaming is absolutely lost.
@auxityne
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see the Ace Combat 04 version of the QAAM is now in boatgame.
@Canute_
Жыл бұрын
So they're all about history. It was a game about surface ships, then they decided the fun was over and they introduce CVs and subs, the very things that made surface ships obsolete and just ruuuuuub that in our faces.
@sugoi4845
Жыл бұрын
it's just like dodging air-to-air missiles, except you are in a ww2 four-engine bomber and don't have countermeasures
@427Arbok
Жыл бұрын
People were joking about WeeGee adding missiles next, but it seems like they already have
@xanderdad5898
Жыл бұрын
I think it wouldnt be so bad if they were closer to glass cannons. It would force the sub player to be very selective about who they choose to attack. Where to decide to set up attacks. The class is so strong, so a good route would be the glass cannon approach. If you get caught once. You're dead.
@Arisudev
Жыл бұрын
A sub was always a glass cannon, historically. They're slow and easily break down.
@kaikai200
Жыл бұрын
The none guided torp are terrifying when you consider how fast you can reload those things , anything tier 8 get smashed and not in the way of one shot but they are basically done for at that point and the irony is the biggest threat are actually BB's ASW (high damage), because if DD try to use their ASW , just shotgun them .
@nooblangpoo
Жыл бұрын
Kiev: "JUST DODGE!? WHERE WILL I DODGE?"
@FrederickKoehlmann
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious if the torps would follow you around an island? Would love to see a game where you're commanding the sub against an entire team. Seems the sub might win! ;) That would show how OP it is.
@Endcsline_Live2D
Жыл бұрын
WG very optimistic that when I play Gouden I always have Hydro and DCP ready, already expecting the torps, and even then getting rekked because 60 second DCP reload time. Against CVs, you can see them from far away and turn in to mitigate damage. DD torps I can guesstimate their direction and juke their prediction. Subs: homing, even with hydro can barely dodge if I know where they're coming from, also need to dcp to avoid torps damage, if I dpc and still eat a torp, I get a full duration flooding. And on close range they can just pop up and shotgun if you aren't either full HP or a maneuverable DD...
@100thdragoon
Жыл бұрын
These are just Mk. 48 ADCAPs temporally displaced to WWII.
@AdamGibbyMC2012
Жыл бұрын
The only counter for this would be to make DCP allowable every 20 seconds. This would negate any sort of fire ship build. I’m baffled truly baffled.
@aresonantsoul6668
Жыл бұрын
OMFG! This is to much of a coincidence: @NicholasIE I was one of the Conqueror's in CV Malta division ;)
@Manol6325
Жыл бұрын
"That is the dumbest thing i've seen" this sentence describes every single patch in this game since 2018
@jadpho1380
Жыл бұрын
The Torpedo knows where it is because it knows where it isn’t
@theamazingmikej
Жыл бұрын
The sub apologists on NA forums - "This is fine, just install Advance Torpedo Marker."
@EvoraGT430
Жыл бұрын
They cannot play surface ships, that's why.
@matheusfiorelli8829
Жыл бұрын
thanks Flamu, every now and then i think about playing the game, and your videos remind me why i stopped xD
@tomascobalto6769
Жыл бұрын
I think u asked for homing missiles during super CV testing… well u have a sea missile here! 🤣🤣🤣
@randomguy-kv7fx
Жыл бұрын
i don't know about you guys, but this might be it for me
@shadowrunner03
Жыл бұрын
RIP any torp boat set up, it now has to all go into engine and steering just to even stand any semblance of a chance to "just dodge"
@Sporting1210
Жыл бұрын
Marceau and Kleber will fail in a one vs one, too, because they have no way to spot him while submerged. So all the sub has to do is zig zag away under water, shortly pop up to re-spott you, ping and torp and dive again. The only chance you have is to stay in the general vicinity, run towards him with rpf every time he comes up and wait until he runs out of oxy (RPF is a must have against subs, because there is no way to tell where he went and you need to know where he comes to the surface. A tad unfortunate, because there are quite a few dds, where i would consier RPF as ..hum..not necessary if it wasnt for subs) And now we put that scenario in a random match, whre you most likely get spotted the moment you use your guns, or you wplay against some super-nice and well respected hurrican clan guys, who run a cv-sub div and...well... Wargaming seems to have forgotten, that they need a solid base of experienced players to make the game playable and since the cv-rework and now with the subs, they basically shoo away the none-paying solo players, which they need to fill the matches and make them actually work. Which is one of the reasons why there are so much more steamrolls than we used to have. With mostly super-casuals players, plain bad players and purple-try-hard-player-divs the game doesnt work - it just doesnt. It becomes unfun and boring for everybody (unless you are somebody, who is alrdy satisfied by just winning in the most boring un-challenging fashion-in that case congratz and enjoy your life, i guess)
@orsonincharge4879
Жыл бұрын
Ofc the UK has had homing torps ever since WW1 , they just chose to use non homing ones to sink the Belgrano for extra chad points .
@snorkman2
Жыл бұрын
Come to the Asian Server, 2 CVs, 2 subs and 3 hybrids every game. I've had to turn to Italian DD line... 17 ship based depth charges to kill one Baleo? Full points to the Creative team at WG, they certainly are creative.
@archieforber7201
Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t the whole idea of the cv rework to eliminate one player being able to create cross torping. Now they make a submarine that can do it. There are no words. WTF
@thehumus8688
Жыл бұрын
its like watching 2D Missile spam from Macross
@Beaglefaust
Жыл бұрын
LOL Daring is the ultimate 'counter' to this thing. WG Balance Dept strikes again.
@Miggs757
Жыл бұрын
Clearly, fun is achieved with this boat.
@pyalot
Жыл бұрын
If WG is looking for quality of life improvements for everyone, they should limit submarines game interactions to press „Battle“ and have their submarine captained by a bot.
@gulfwing8453
Жыл бұрын
The next premium ship WG puts for sale will have a towed Nixie torpedo decoy array.
@ryuujunichi7362
Жыл бұрын
These homing torps are disgusting. How did Wargaming ever thought that these torps were a great addition to the game is a complete mystery to me. I dont think i should be playing the game anymore knowing that the enemy team may have one or even more than 1 Alliance.
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