A single unblockable creature should suffice really
@sammysammyson
Ай бұрын
EDIT: I forgor this was about Nexus💀 I mean, it depends on your opponents' life totals the power of that creature and your ability to increase that. You could deck first. Also Teferi's Protection and co. can stop combat damage from the infinite combat steps across turns. So yeah. Gotta play this out, unfortunately, until you can say something like "I can hit you all for 10 every turn. If there are no responses, I win."
@victorchico4980
Ай бұрын
Exacly💃🏽
@ChibiTanner
Ай бұрын
@@sammysammysonreading Nexus of fate explains the card
@TheCardq
Ай бұрын
@@sammysammysoncan't deck unless they're drawing extra cards every turn as a trigger. The only card they draw for turn each turn is nexus of fate.
@user-bi5eu6mw6z
Ай бұрын
Thoracle? Just draw -> pass like 90 times in a row? 😅
@alexleblanc6364
Ай бұрын
That netdecked list was just the set up so he could play Baron Von Count. Gotta respect the long con
@carolinedavis8339
Ай бұрын
...part of this combo involves a tutor, you can't double check you have a win con in your deck? If you find anything that closes out the game in a reasonable time frame, the lock is deterministic.
@carolinedavis8339
Ай бұрын
...Wait, ignore me, I forgot Mystical Tutor tutors to top of deck, I guess you wouldn't be drawing new cards, you'd just be taking infinite turns.
@ToadboyVlogs
Ай бұрын
@@carolinedavis8339you...you draw a card every turn
@XYZdragoon
Ай бұрын
@@carolinedavis8339 except you draw for each turn too. technically infinite card draw... Till you run out of cards anyway lll
@epicbrony27
Ай бұрын
@XYZdragoon You would draw the Nexus of Fate you tutored to the top for turn. Without a way to draw more cards you only ever draw Nexus.
@theguitarist1703
Ай бұрын
@@epicbrony27it’s blue lmao of course they’re drawing more cards 😂😂😂
@samuelhowarth9994
Ай бұрын
One time, I took infinite turns with my Vorel artifact deck, and my opponent told me to play it out. He was playing Kumena with a board full of Merfolk. He had a seedborn muse and leyline of anticipation, so he was fully taking his turn on my turn and drawing more cards per turn than me on average.
@michaeltillotson3711
Ай бұрын
I love when someone says they have an infinite and you go "okay", let's see it and can answer. I did it with a solitary confinement flashed in against a red storm
@jumpanama
Ай бұрын
Nothing like someone swinging with a million 1/1's only for you to Rakdos Charm then
@FoldingScreenMonkey
Ай бұрын
"destroy target player" gets me
@gareththerrien3473
Ай бұрын
Barron Von Count is way more fun when you secretly roll a D10 each time and on 1 you chose yourself.
@RichardAmos-ft1vv
Ай бұрын
Baron Von Count is one of my favorite decks, playing Rakdos Artifacts with the doom laser was too good
@exiledhero3791
Ай бұрын
I prefer my unfinity nonsense to be a mash. The monster mash, if you will
@fosterdawson7339
Ай бұрын
Woooh Grusilda
@bleachcraft8
Ай бұрын
"I don't give a shit how many turns you're taking, until you put a win con on the table you're going to play it out" - me to THAT player at my lgs every damn time he plays his turns deck
@scottgerk7627
25 күн бұрын
In my group whenever someone goes infinite or combo wins too early we don't make them play it out - we make them sit out. "Cool, you're the winner. You get first place we're gonna play for second." Works especially well when we take on a random for the 4th player. They bring something wildly strong to the table despite our pregame talk and then have to sit out while we finish.
@flaetsbnort
Ай бұрын
Sometimes an extra turn spell is the first step in an infinite combo, sometimes it might as well read 'untap all your lands, then draw a card'
@daltronius
Ай бұрын
The issue here is that the tutor pits it on top, meaning in thos case the extra turn spell just reads untap ur lands put this back in your hand
@raphaelmort6366
Ай бұрын
Baron Von Count is legit one of the most fun EDH decks though
@jiaan100
Ай бұрын
Baron von count doesnt do anything as written. It says to move the counter one numeral to the left, and destroy target player when it moves from 1. But theres no number to the left of 1 for it to move to.
@SamuriX2010
Ай бұрын
My favorite part of nexus of fate is having either timmy or aetherflux resevoir on the field and just pinging to death.
@JayAndNightASMR
Ай бұрын
Seen a couple of decks like this in commander. They're used to people scooping as soon as they hear infinite that they're shocked when someone plays a board wipe etc
@condemnedd684
Ай бұрын
He gets to destroy himself next game
@mondaynugget6503
Ай бұрын
I have an infinite turn steal with Emry, lurker of the lake and Mindslaver. It’s a bit slow but if I get enough counterspells and mana rocks I can do it pretty consistently
@jramirez82
Ай бұрын
The way my head jerked when I read "destroy target player" was unnatural 👀😳
@ghostamity5116
Ай бұрын
I have a pretty consistent Malcolm deck that does infinite turns and the win con is storm tide. I love watching my friends tap out then cheating out my entire deck.
@Eldritch_Panda31
Ай бұрын
I will always make players finish their combo ever since i remember a storm player forgetting to put his tendirls in side board so he could burning wish for them.
@tanoshichannel2012
Ай бұрын
Depends on what everyone else is playing. If most people can interact with the infinite combo, then it's fine, but if the others are just playing out of the box precons, then I would recommend against using an infinite. I've had a game where everyone was playing slow precon decks, but one guy decided that he should bring his $300 dollar squirrel deck with 3 infinite combos. He claimed that since he didn't have tutors, it was fine and fair.
@quincyking010
Ай бұрын
Some of the precons have infinite combos
@ryanderenbecker8837
Ай бұрын
Now I want to play a Baron Von Count deck...
@philbuttler3427
Ай бұрын
There's a guy I play with (who played Eggs when that was a thing) who loves non deterministic combos. I'm pretty sure he's a sadist.
@ultratog1028
Ай бұрын
As a Storm player that "didnt have enough rituals to go off" comment was savage and uncalled for.
@markdasaro9045
Ай бұрын
My shikishima Ravos aka the shenanigans deck has an infinite turn combo couple ways to win including Commander damage this creature damage or approach of the second sun.
@user-kh4bi7nh7x
Ай бұрын
Actual footage of a tcg player arguing with themselves on what deck to build and play
@rileyloux1491
Ай бұрын
I’d like to point out, if you are playing unfinity, Clair D’loon is a way for you to win with Battle of Wits in commander.
@markdd4281
Ай бұрын
Isochron goes hard ❤
@dilutedskiff6840
Ай бұрын
Have to see hands and boardstate but if he is in a strong position its game if he isnt then at least its a tutor once a turn either way its a strong set up
@andrewc406
Ай бұрын
infinite combo that does something yes but infinite turns no. just because your turn doesn't end doesn't mean you win the game is just a stalemate.
@yosefzanerva806
Ай бұрын
Ah, the true goal, getting your to finally let you play your goofy Unfinity shenanigans!
@blazetrinity9462
Ай бұрын
I have this same type of infinite extra turns deck lol. I got all my wincons removed once, but still managed to achieve the extra turn combo, how did I win? I realized I had a blind obedience just sitting there, so I just kept playing extra turn spells while paying extort cost lol.
@ZSAITOSEI
Ай бұрын
It does when they're cycling through Garys infinitely 😂
@itschiron4479
Ай бұрын
Its blue, there has to be a thassa's oracle in there somewhere
@jaysea682
Ай бұрын
This is my feeling when someone plays omnipotence
@livanbard
Ай бұрын
Only if you stax the opps
@GodzillaFreak
Ай бұрын
Weird that mtg players seem to hate playing it out. We yugioh players love nothing more than playing solitaire for 20 minutes as the opponent anguishes
@fcjward
Ай бұрын
I mean... Can we all agree that playing a list that you dk how it wins isn't a productive way to approach commander regardless of power level? Also if someone plays isochron and it can activate once I'll concede just to play another game rather than having someone take 2hr turns
@SilentZombie
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm not sitting there while they play solitaire. The moment Infinite anything is being played and a turn takes nearly a half hour, I will ruin your win by simply scooping and going on to the next game.
@DEATHMETALRUST
Ай бұрын
I have a Baron Von Count deck. Shit is entirely busted. 😂
@kevinlee5753
Ай бұрын
I'm still new to magic and I was wondering why is it that people hate commander format?
@masterrocket31
Ай бұрын
An infinite combo is a combo that cannot end. For example Ajani's Chosen and Enchanted Evening making an endless loop of 2/2 enchantment cats., resulting the game into a draw. This is not a infinite combo. At any point the combo can be stop by just not using Scepter to keep giving your self extra turns.
@drdeushpickle
Ай бұрын
@@masterrocket31 an infinite combo is any combo that can go infinite, hence the name. Your example is a non-deterministic infinite combo meaning that the end of it can't be determined.
@bryceevans264
Ай бұрын
I just want isocron scepter in arena
@Razdasoldier
Ай бұрын
Just remeber to slide a cheaty face behind every card in an undeck
@codyjarvis4557
Ай бұрын
I just play chaotic if decks annoy me. 😂
@aBronyPlays
Ай бұрын
As a yugioh player, we don't allow infinite loops. And I refuse to accept them in mtg either.
@skirk248
Ай бұрын
As a degenerate turns looper not knowing how to win is the biggest problem tbh
@alistor1213
Ай бұрын
Every time I see an infinite combo it makes me not want to play magic anymore. This is why I rule zero my play group "no infinites".
@reallygoogle5481
Ай бұрын
I make my nexus win condition castle ardenvale. I am evil though.
@Xipee808
Ай бұрын
This might be a hottake but baron von count should just be a real commander legends card. With commanders like errata, frodo bane, angel of destiny, phage and all the insta win non commander cards hes not that crazy
@digitalk1llraymon448
Ай бұрын
Infinite turns is the only infinite combo I don't respect and I will waste both our time until you find your actual win condition. And then I will remove it if I can. Loops that finish the game are fine, undetermined loops are crap.
@thestralspirit
Ай бұрын
If you had interaction this whole time, why didn't you use it on the piece that takes infinite turns?
@burnsboy101
Ай бұрын
@@thestralspiritto waste time, did you even read the comment?
@tideltas
Ай бұрын
I'm a combo player at heart, and I will always gravitate towards those decks, but if you can't find a win con in 5 entire minutes, I'm never playing with you again. That's so disrespectful towards the people you play with. Net decking is no excuse for having that little grasp on the deck you're playing.
@allviper
Ай бұрын
I fully agree at the 5 minute timer if the person just copied the deck from online. If you don't know what the win-con is and if you go for infinite turn, you should have a 5 minute timer. Biggest thing, If you do copy a deck from online read everything about it and how to play. If you don't want to ask you this surrender because you're wasting our time. Commander games are at least 45 minutes, And I'm about to spend 45 minutes of you figuring out a deck And not knowing the win-con.
@RhysticTutor1
Ай бұрын
Unfinity nonsense is the best tho!
@nicholsstinson8646
Ай бұрын
I had somebody play against me that was using a chulane or however you spell his name and then proceeded to say oh I win because I go infinite with some enchantment and I was like play it out and he got really pissed off and I don’t know if you’re gonna go infinite fucking do it
@franklitzenberger4236
Ай бұрын
Yeah... Except the storm player takes 20-40 minutes even when he knows how to win
@VGProtagonist
Ай бұрын
These players need to find new play groups.
@draconictacos3107
Ай бұрын
I mean, if they can’t win they might just deck themselves looking
@macenanoro826
Ай бұрын
That's the neat part about nexus of fate... makes it extremely hard to deck yourself
@draconictacos3107
Ай бұрын
@@macenanoro826 just wait until they somehow exile it on accident
@jtyree0226
Ай бұрын
@@draconictacos3107considering it has a replacement effect and never hits the yard that would be very difficult
@draconictacos3107
Ай бұрын
@@jtyree0226 life finds a way
@youkirosewarne1516
Ай бұрын
Putting infinites in a deck without a clear cut win con is just deck building chaff doesn’t mean anything if you can’t win off it
@jolteon345
Ай бұрын
What’s funny is that this infinite doesn’t do anything without a board state beyond the Scepter. So yeah, have fun shuffling your deck 2 times a minute to utilize a useless combo, I’ll be checking with a judge to see if this can count as stalling the game.
@WhereHeInsertedTheBladee
Ай бұрын
60 card player when presented with infinite turns: you won, good game Commander player: no i actually want to sit here and see you slowly win in a scenario where you will 100% win and i cannot interact, all while complaining about how annoying it is that i have to sit here and watch you win while i cannot interact Based on empirical observations
@supremeplatypus7192
Ай бұрын
Wait people make you play out your combos? Isn't that unfun for them? I always feel bad playing out my big combos cause it feels like rubbing it in, but if you insist...
@tt4001_
Ай бұрын
Im surprised it isnt a thassas infinite turn thats what i do 🤣
@TransformersBoss
Ай бұрын
The win-con is Lab Man, he mills himself out by drawing infinite cards during infinite draw-steps and eventually Lab-Mans the win
@SideironPunch
Ай бұрын
@@TransformersBoss wouldn't work. Mystical Tutor put Nexus on top of deck, draw Nexus for turn, Nexus shuffles into deck. Activate Isochron to put Nexus on top, go to next turn. At the start of that turn, unless you cast something else on the previous turn or did any other game action, all you can do is just repeat that same sequence. You don't actually see another new card ever with that particular loop.
@TransformersBoss
Ай бұрын
@@SideironPunchit would have worked if he had an additional source of card draw in play. That’s probably what the designer of the deck intended. But, alas, he is a net-decker, so it won’t work out for him!
@SlimyShadeSlimShady
Ай бұрын
@@SideironPunchJace from War of the Sparks would do the trick for 1 more mana.
@cpt.arctourus7950
Ай бұрын
My infinite mana combo wins
@brendancagle203
Ай бұрын
Bruh i ran infinite turns in jeskai colors and i just got myth realized and slowly vaporized everyone elses creatures with removal spells lol. Then smack everyone with 69,420/69,420 for the win lol.
@blazetrinity9462
Ай бұрын
Mine is esper, and I just extort everyone to death with blind obedience lol.
@Cybertech134
Ай бұрын
Infinite combos are fine. The clear issue here is the extra turn spell. There's a reason those are banned at my table.
@dcluvspie5777
Ай бұрын
I have this combo without the nexus I need a nexus...
@rantingrepublican4523
Ай бұрын
I am actually fine with this if they don’t have an out for there combo
@anthonyrupprecht8659
Ай бұрын
The second you try to put a timer on me, You’re not gonna like the turnaround.
@jakehawthorn7920
Ай бұрын
2024 and people are still talking about netdecking lmfao
@pulsefel9210
Ай бұрын
how do you destroy a player?
@jonathangitter1311
Ай бұрын
Yeah that's not how that works. If you dont wanna wait you can scoop
Ай бұрын
does he won?
@johnnycaralta
Ай бұрын
Theres no need to say it's a net deck. Every cedh deck is.
@RisinTyson
Ай бұрын
Sisay Super friends is me going to grab bolas that says you lose the game. Najeela is infinite attacks so u can commander damqge that life gain player
@sollmoll
Ай бұрын
NGL i think its a bit rude to go infinite if you dont know what youe win condition is
@Burning---__---starlight
Ай бұрын
Stuff like this makes me appreciate Konami unwillingness to allow infinite loops to exist in yugioh
@RawketPawnch
Ай бұрын
@@Burning---__---starlight no infinites, but that doesn't matter as the games over in the first turn cycle anyway.
@Burning---__---starlight
Ай бұрын
@RawketPawnch not really. It used to end in 1 rotation in 2018-2019 meta , but now the games are a lot more back and forth
@michaelleighwilliams8372
Ай бұрын
Wizards don't regulate EDH because it's. Casual format
@Burning---__---starlight
Ай бұрын
@michaelleighwilliams8372 it's not just edh, though . You can go infinite in every magic format except standard
@steveszymkowski3644
Ай бұрын
Nah no unfinity or unsanctioned doo doo
@bman8807
Ай бұрын
Infinite combos suck imo. Idk how many games Ive played where someone wins with an infinite out of nowhere but did literally nothing the entire game they were left alone because they weren't a threat at all. It's lame 🤷♂️
@blazetrinity9462
Ай бұрын
Because no one is willing to play any interactions, stuffs like that happen all the time when everyone just wanna play big battlecruiser/value engine type of decks.
@scottcrane6603
Ай бұрын
Commander's ruining other formats. I wish they would keep Commander cards out of modern horizons. As a matter of fact, I truly wish mtg would keep them out of all sets that aren't commander sets.....
@chicotivo307
Ай бұрын
Who’s is playing with a timer this dudes play group is fucked
@libraryofalexandria8528
Ай бұрын
if you don't know how to win don't play the deck
@pandaclysm205
Ай бұрын
Ugh hand shuffling.
@dreadwoe7661
Ай бұрын
Then you have 5 minutes No
@54m0h7
Ай бұрын
You get a timer because you need to respect my time. I'm here to play cards, not watch you play solitaire.
@jeffwren7815
Ай бұрын
If you can't win with your deck in your hand stop playing magic.
@cheesewhiz8008
Ай бұрын
I dont think this guy even likes magic lol
@Lotus_jacobaeus
Ай бұрын
Definitely have little to no knowledge of how to play the game.
@gunn25
Ай бұрын
LOL timer. You don't get to put a timer on someone to win on their turn. Just scoop and move onto the next game crybaby.
@Wuuush
Ай бұрын
Having someone demonstrate a storm win is so vastly different from an infinite turn win though? If you never get to take another turn then what is there to find/demonstrate? This guys content has become so lazy just making up scenarios that almost never happen and saying "well what do YOU guys think in the comments?"
@blueredlover1060
Ай бұрын
Even then, there are usually 3 ways that an infinite turns deck wins. It's some evasive threat, some sort of infinite burn deal, or else a deck yourself and win deal. Those are the three ways that deck will win.
@orvar7035
Ай бұрын
Take a turn. Shuffle it in. Search again. Put it on top. Draw it. Take a turn. Shuffle it in. Search again. Put it on top. Draw it. Take a turn.... I agree the content is lazy on writing and proper scene set up and continuity. But this infinite combo does need something else. Like draw an extra card each turn. Or anything that can attack every turn
@scruffyryan
Ай бұрын
It wins cause im not sitting through that nonsense and will be packed up and on to a new pod roughly thirty seconds after you pause to think even once.
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