Jerry, here are time codes: 0:00 Shaolin vs TKD; 3:03 Kungfu vs Capoeira; 7:09 Drunken Kungfu
@OmicronX-1999
6 жыл бұрын
That drunken kickboxer's sudden rib kick was pretty awesome. The other guy never knew what hit him.
@LunaticReason
6 жыл бұрын
Drunken boxer already knows his stuff and has a strong foundation in technique and experience, the drunken boxing is just added flare which is why he succeeds while other kung fu fighters fail because its not enough to simply know the moves, to many are told a set of moves should work in theory without actually having them tested and troubleshot. Its like taking a world class boxer and them passing down their moves to someone else whom had never fought expecting similar results and same class of fighter. Its up to the fighters own skills and experience to make a style work and not the reverse.
@starwise2005
5 жыл бұрын
You're exactly right, what is taught now is some what water down, because the great masters of Wing Chun aren't around anymore to teach the real way of the style, that's why today Wing Chun practitioners don't have the ability to perform as well as of those long before them...🤔😎
@jashardwallington
4 жыл бұрын
Extactly but many martial artist dont get it
@Team_Killer_NZ
4 жыл бұрын
@@starwise2005 it never worked, maybe against somebody that was doing the same shit but no. Never did.
@Aroncare
4 жыл бұрын
Maaan that druken kick was some solid shit...
@InfiniteBeingX
4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@vesuvius2444
6 жыл бұрын
The 1st match seemed like a friendly sparring exhibition. The other 2 were legit fights. That drunken guy was impressive. He seemed like a goofball then unleashed that kick to the ribs like a pro. Loved it.
@Tim1000064
6 жыл бұрын
That side kick stole his soul for a minute there.
@varanid9
6 жыл бұрын
It would definitely have stolen mine.
@grayalun
5 жыл бұрын
Sidekick is so underrated if done well it really is nasty.
@InfiniteBeingX
4 жыл бұрын
lol stole his soul, sick stuff man
@sonphan8174
5 жыл бұрын
The legendary drunken zone!!! He was so into it. I never see anyone kick like that from the ground. Just when you thought the guy fall down about to lose, he make a devastating kick.
@jasonbayani2139
5 жыл бұрын
The capoeira guy is called lelo.. he had an undefeated record in mma.. I know him in person.. he's been doing capoeira since he was 4..
@DJEmirMixtapes
4 жыл бұрын
He looked pretty good there and still had a ton left in him to perform his ending moves after the bout as well
@elcypher6102
4 жыл бұрын
Ive seen some of his vids hes got good hands to. But those spinning kicks are insane.
@jasonbayani2139
4 жыл бұрын
@@f.b.ilolicondivision2425 basic ginga.. and stand up techniques such as quixada and their punches.. it takes time to learn the Angola moves and ground games even the hand stands and flips..
@jasonbayani2139
4 жыл бұрын
Lelo's first mma fight was that video u will find here in youtube called the 20 sec capoeira knock out..
@jasonbayani2139
4 жыл бұрын
@@f.b.ilolicondivision2425 when I was learning capoeira my instruto had a 7 yr old son who was training with us.. while we were doing the more advance move sets he was there stuck doing ginga, basic esquirda and basic standing kicks.. he wasn't learning any of the ground or low moves yet..
@AliothAncalagon
6 жыл бұрын
The Capoeira guy had the clear advantage of not being limited to the traditional style. Maybe even fought some Vale Tudo matches.
@sarahlee3056
4 жыл бұрын
Alioth Ancalagon , he is an mma fighter
@AliothAncalagon
4 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Green There is no evidence to suggest any of this. You are just explaining a fantasy you want to be true, because it gives you a warm gut feeling about a traditional style you hold dear. But its a fantasy. The only "traditional martial art" that has relevant evidence behind it to support the notion that it played any role in any real war ever is greek wrestling. Let that sink in.
@DonnieDarko1
6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Jerry, that drunken dude was awesome! And your friend that comments along with you on your most recent fight commentaries, man, he's a excellent addition, good job!
@danpt2000
6 жыл бұрын
I was really surprised by that kick, and then the handless stand up he did. The drunken guy actually looked kind of out of shape, but his kick, damn!!!
@playapapapa23
5 жыл бұрын
DonnieDarko1 I concur, I love this channel!
@freedom9729
4 жыл бұрын
4:57 when your character wins
@foursix32
6 жыл бұрын
Wow that last fight was really fun to watch. Great find!
@yawakoben
6 жыл бұрын
the capoeirista is an MMA fighter who has a few greatest capoeira KOs in MMA. You see him in Ton of KZitem MMA compilations.
@varanid9
6 жыл бұрын
Interesting to know. Yeah, it was obvious he did more than just one martial art.
@chengda85
6 жыл бұрын
hes only good because he knows BJJ, most of his Capoeira kicks didnt even connect
@fgsf9
6 жыл бұрын
the.raven dont be a hater the kicks clearly set up the situation for him to be on the floor n using his ground skills n honestly ....clearly ur ignorant of his style ..lol his style isnt just kicks it excells at that but it also has grabs headbutts locks n a bit of ground work so ....what are u talking about ?? Study up before you critic
@Mr.Smiley_J
5 жыл бұрын
Capoeirista. Ah, so that's what you call a capoeira fighter. Thank you for that.
@lucianoxx9210
5 жыл бұрын
Smiley J Yes, I'm brazilian and the final "ista" in brazilian Portuguese is similar to the English "ist". For exemplo, in English the word special = specialist and in Portuguese, the same word is written especial = especialista. Then, in English, capoeira fighter would be capoeirist.
@peterxyz3541
6 жыл бұрын
The Drunken "dazed" guy was the most ingesting.
@varanid9
6 жыл бұрын
Nah, he meant "ingesting", as in, he drank a lot, LOL
@AlexanderMaungVO
6 жыл бұрын
Technically thats imbibing, but yeah lol I'm surprised the drunken guy did so well because relative to other drunken I've seen his structure is closer to performance drunken wushu more than combative. I guess to understand, look up Neil Ripski.
@Bardickan
6 жыл бұрын
I mean, this guy is actually closer to "classic" drunken, which is essentially just taking a normal fighting style and adding that drunken aspect to it once you've got the fundamentals down and strong. Hence why drunken was normally found within other martial arts, like CLF. Ripski's drunken was actually similar originally from what I know (being a part of the Ma family style), but he developed it into a more complete stand-alone style.
@Bardickan
6 жыл бұрын
He only did that when the round had stopped. If you look closely, he actually was using that as an excuse to take a breather lol.
@juanantoniofallas9934
6 жыл бұрын
Bardickan These are added to several styles of Kung fu as well
@dontaehamlett4011
4 жыл бұрын
Capoeira is very much like drunken Kung fu. It’s based upon the same principle, to appear vulnerable and surprise with unorthodox attacks
@johnbravo1034
4 жыл бұрын
Drunken Boxing was fascinating to watch.....and surprisingly effective.
@Panzer-Geomancer
5 жыл бұрын
Capoiera vs "other guy" duel was strange. The Brazilian dude was like 3 weight classes heavier then the Asian dude.
@sexybluelady
4 жыл бұрын
Been a while since I've seen the drunken Kung Fu, every time this video comes up I fall in love with it all over again. To this day I think that it's the best real video of drunken Kung Fu that I have seen. The guy stays in "character" throughout the entire match and after the fact. It's so entertaining to watch. I wish it was seen more.
@elchippe
6 жыл бұрын
The world of Chinese martial arts is vast so is very difficult to extract what works and what doesn't, some master don't even spar they do it for the money and fame, but there is some practical Chinese martial like Sanda (Chinese Kickboxing and yes Kickboxing is a term to describe punching and kicking, created for the military) and Shuai Jiao (Chinese-Mongolian Wrestling).
@elchippe
6 жыл бұрын
lilith shopping, i never say is a traditional martial, i say is a Chinese martial art developed taking techniques the works from traditional martial arts and rejecting what doesn't work.
@lilithshopping7904
6 жыл бұрын
+RagingUtai This is a clip of a deadly fight between pre-communist(well, they grew up and practice their shit before 1949 and fought in UK occupied Hong kong) Kung Fu masters, which happened to be renowned representatives of Taichi bushito and Crane bushito respectively of their time. Enjoy. kzitem.info/news/bejne/srCJxWmqo6icnGk
@lilithshopping7904
6 жыл бұрын
BJJ maybe considered as a Brazilian martial art developedby taking Japanese JJ technique (mainly) and brazilian modification. As to Sanda, you may called it a very new Chinese martial art developed by taking techniques of western Boxing, kickboxing of various sources and a little bit throw of Chinese wrestling.
@oncesavedalwayssaved240
6 жыл бұрын
elchippe I've trained Goju Ryu Karate and we learnt chain punching which is from Wing Chin
@KylesoulDT
6 жыл бұрын
lilith shopping Sanda is not a style. In all martial arts, traditionnal forms are useful only to help you to perfect your movement and your body. I practiced Muay Thai, my favorite style and after I started Wushu Sanda. In Wushu (real name of Kung Fu), you have 2 parts : taolus (traditionnal forms) and Sanshou/Sanda (fighting application) like in Karate : Katas (traditionnal forms) and Kumite (fighting application). Like all martial arts, Wushu evolved. Muay Thai in the traditionnal way would be smashed in the 21st century. Tai Chi is good, but not in striking and in his traditionnal way. In Sanda we learn Tai Chi to be more effective with our projection techniques, for relaxation and body recovery (really important because a Sanda combat is really stressful and exhausting). Kung Fu in chinese means "hard work", Wushu means "martial art".
@oldskool34758
5 жыл бұрын
Loved the drunken boxer who stayed in character so you didn't know if he was dazed or drunk.It worked for him.Murderous side kicks. Lol:-P
@DrPittenstein
6 жыл бұрын
People who train hard in their styles and are prepared to test themselves can be effective. The rest are not. Which also applies to people who train MMA. If they don't train hard or test themselves they won't beat skilled practitioners of other styles. So less ridicule of Kung Fu please.
@Aramsa-Khan
5 жыл бұрын
Very true. Practice make perfect and continuous sparring improve the fighting technique to real use
@wesley93256
5 жыл бұрын
The only way to be good at fighting is to practice 100% resistance every day
@wesley93256
5 жыл бұрын
Striking that is impossible but submission wrestling that is do able
@jashardwallington
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Say it louder for the all the idiots
@itsonlyrocknroll12
4 жыл бұрын
DrPittenstein so true
@corynn.l5146
6 жыл бұрын
What yall said at the end is a very good point about if kung fu was used in realistic sparring it will be very useful. only thing is most traditional martial arts dont realistically spar. You can always have great form and techique but without proper experience all that technique would be useless
@grandmastercain
6 жыл бұрын
The problem with "Does Kung Fu work in a ring fight?" is really hard to answer, as there are literally hundreds of styles of kung fu, and not all of them are designed for actual fighting. Tai Chi and Wushu are primarily done for katas, for example, so it'd be blatantly unfair to put an old man Tai Chi master against a highly athletic MMA fighter. MMA folk have a level of athleticism that ordinary people simply can't match. So, to make a fair comparison, we need several things. First, we need a kung fu fighter who is physically the match of an MMA fighter. We should also make sure they have the same weight class, becasue whomever is bigger has a huge advantage. And finally, we need a kung fu style that regularly fights in a ring setting. You might think that's a tall order, but it does exist. It's called Sanda, and we've already had several Sanda practitioners join the UFC. By and large, they're doing well, so I think we can say Kung Fu does work in that setting. But the bottom line is this: Style matters less than you'd think. There is no ultimate martial art, just ultimate martial artists.
@fernandojmhs
6 жыл бұрын
Damn. That capoeira guy was AWSOME. I WANT MORE OF THAT
@joshuasharrock466
6 жыл бұрын
While I always thought that capoeira by itself is a joke... That guy in green mixing it in with jiu-jitsu and Judo... Damn
@Dragonwing16
6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Sharrock yeah really goes to show that every style really does have at least a few useful things
@DrinkUpJohny
6 жыл бұрын
why would it be a joke?Because a rhythmless neanderthal like yourself couldn't ever understand it ?
@joshuasharrock466
6 жыл бұрын
hero102912 rhythmless neanderthal? No I just have an understanding that the world doesn't revolve around PlayStations Tekken. Excluding movies, there is a wide variety of KZitem videos backing my claim
@blackpowderkun
6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Sharrock if look at history capoeira used to be a complete deadly system that police and criminals used to the point that maestroes stop teaching and was illegalized by the gov. only surviving as a dance like form taught these days, and even if you don't use capoeira techniques with a body that it's trainning provide you might as well use fistercufts.
@joshuasharrock466
6 жыл бұрын
Blackpowderkun I hear you and I've heard these stories. Growing up I thought capoeira was the shit. There's not one MMA fighter though that uses it. And just like Wing Chun, the mythology of it is so built up that no one tested it... In my opinion.
@jamesthe-doctor8981
4 жыл бұрын
It looked to me like the drunken fighter hit his opponent with a couple of liver shots, not just the ribs. IMO the liver hurts even more.
@bentinho
6 жыл бұрын
The capoeiristas name is Marcus Aurelio. Very good capoeirista, decent MMA fighter but a very wild fighter that kind of bites him in the ass.
@nomaschalupas2453
4 жыл бұрын
People downplay monks but if they simply put more time into sparring they could compete and do pretty good. Their training is no joke and are just as fit as pro fighters, full contact sparring is the only thing they would need.
@firebellyK
4 жыл бұрын
Love the videos! I always get kind of frustrated with the this works or that works discussion....it goes back to the 70s when I started martial arts, with Judo can beat karate, or boxing beats judo. It’s not the art, it’s the person, their attributes, and how they practice. Let’s take basket ball for example. If I practice dribbling and free throws and lay ups for a year or so and never practice against another person, or play in a game, and then I jump in my first game. When I lose and can’t make a free throw under pressure, everyone says my basket ball doesn’t work. Same thing here. Train realistically, against opponents who resist, spar, and etc...and the person skilled makes it work regardless of the system or style.
@dawoodwilliams3652
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly but many people are just plain out stupid.
@firebellyK
4 жыл бұрын
Dawood Williams yes, I think the stupidity or maybe ignorance is a better word, comes into play when people who have no idea what a real violent encounter is like, blindly practice unpractical techniques with the belief that they can easily defend themselves and they are a so called master. The guy who stabs you in an alley or breaks a beer bottle over your head in a bar doesn’t care about your trophies and belts. It’s also like the trend over the last few years of the 10 year old black belts. Sorry, it all gives true martial skill a bad name. Didn’t mean to rant.
@borgue
6 жыл бұрын
9:43 this guy is a living Dark Souls red phantom
@James-wd9ib
2 жыл бұрын
Apart from Emanuel Augustus, it's very rare to find videos of how effective Drunken style can be in actual combat. Nice
@jimmyalderson1639
6 жыл бұрын
I saw a very interesting story by an MmA fighter training in china. He said his class (lf training partners) were taken to see this tai chi master. And the master told the MMa guy to hit him. Thinking it wss a mistranslation, he set his arms up in the traditional tai chi training position, and the second his arm touched the master's he was flung to the ground. The master then said 'no, i said fight me. Do that ufc stuff'. So he got on a blxing stance and went serious. He threw a jab, and the second his arm extended fully he was thrown straight to the ground again. He said his judo coach, who was a chinese heavyweight olympian, then sparred with the master, and got schooled all kinds of ways as well. There are very few people who actually know tai chi, same goes for kung fu. Just like in a few decades there'll only be a handful of people who know actual legit karate or taejwondo, and just like how there're only a handful of people who could teach actual real japanese jujutsu. This is clearly one of those few masters who actually knows, understands and trains whatever style of kung fu he professes
@MCSPARTAN501
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah Tai Chi is actually an effective martial art in the right hands. Most Tai Chi schools don't teach you how to apply the moves and even fewer include any sparring.
@Seattlefan77
5 жыл бұрын
Yall really spent 3 minutes breaking down a fake fight (first fight)?
@Catonius
5 жыл бұрын
"Skull twice as thick." Daftest thing I've ever heard.
@peterwang5660
4 жыл бұрын
I mean he explained how it's supposed to work.
@stephenmartin7227
6 жыл бұрын
The Brazilian guy might had some fighting experience in not just Bjj, but in Vale tudo?
@InfiniteBeingX
4 жыл бұрын
That was a sick drunken kick boxing fighting style. Threw me off there with his kicks to the ribs. That was basically KO, but the ref gave that other guy a long time to recover, until he recovered to fight again.
@joelhusbands3838
6 жыл бұрын
The mistake a lot of us make is putting all martial arts into one bag, this is an age where combat sports are more popular than ever however not every martial art falls into the realm of combat sport. for example a police officer may be great at joint locks and various techniques enabling him to subdue and arrest however this does not mean that he can successfully compete in boxing, wrestling or MMA, a lot of the systems in China never made the leap to combat sport, we hear of public lei tai matches of the past but those were never really codified and standardized per say. methods such as shuai jiao and sanda were made for competition from the very beginning and so today are the few that fit into those environments nicely
@joelhusbands3838
6 жыл бұрын
Yes I once knew this an ex soldier who got into boxing, he was well conditioned and could not get stunned or ko'd by the most experienced boxer in the gym but his boxing skill, striking, footwork etc was nowhere as good as the more experienced boxers, as tough as he was he'd get beat. This is the nature of combat, it's a more complexed thing than most of us would like to imagine. If the roles were reversed and the boxers joined the military, their boxing skill alone would not be sufficient for survival while on tour. MMA and all other combat sports are good and have their value but are only one part in the greater universe of martial arts. Don't get me wrong there is nothing unreal about combat sports imo they are a great way to go and can be useful in just about any confrontation, If you're going to fight it's better to be a well conditioned and experienced fighter no matter the fight. With regards to "bullshit martial arts " and the excuse of them not working in the ring because they're made for the street. I think this topic would be too long to type on. I don't intend on writing a Thesis on youtube today. All I can say is that before classing a martial art as useless it is important to know about it's history as in when and why it was created and what it was created for, it's also important to understand how the martial art has evolved or in some cases devolved and what factors led to this. A classic case would be Kalaripayattu which was largely a battlefield art and also in some cases used in combat arenas, you won't find Kalaripayattu being used as a combat sport today, It's mostly exhibition now because the world has changed, The invention of guns changed the game, at one time the martial art had all but disappeared and was revived in the 20th century, I have no doubt that the movements and strikes of kalarippayattu combined with the grappling arts such as Malla-yuddha etc would have made a great fighter, They worked for the military since the BC era but things change, people today still find value in practicing it, but the way it is practiced today does not fit it into the category of combat sport and a casual practitioner would not stand a chance in the combat sport environment.
@Rotinaj37
5 жыл бұрын
Who puts all martial arts into one bag? When it comes to effectiveness in an unarmed 1v1 fight, that is the bag martial arts are generally put in. With good reason. Not sure what exactly you're referring to with police officers being great at joint locks but that's not really relevant. How often are you seeing a cop use aikido-esque joint locks to arrest people? Not to mention he's most likely using those techniques on a person who has zero training, or a person who isn't full force trying to kill him. If someone was trying to full on stab a cop for example, they would just shoot him. That's the current technique for cops. Point being, plenty of martial arts deserve to be scrutinized for being ineffective, whether or not a couple cops did a wrist-lock takedown to someone. You get what I mean?
@jdamlinrules5126
2 жыл бұрын
I have 5 broken ribs right now I've probably broken 13 or 14 in my life total. I've also fractured my sternum twice and bruised my heart a minimum of 3x. And of course you can still breathe when you're got broken ribs or we wouldn't be here any longer. It just hurts really badly to breathe deep. So what you end up doing is surviving on half a breath or 3/4 of a breath for weeks at a time. Basically you just take in as much air as you can until you can't handle how much it hurts. The more you breath in the more it hurts. So sometimes that's half a breath sometimes that's 3/4. As time goes on it increases and eventually goes back to being able to inhale a full breath of air. But it can literally take months for broken ribs to heal. And it sucks. And the whole time it hurts to cough to laugh to yell or raise your voice, or sneeze even that's a nasty one right there sneezing hurts like a motherfuker
@vamtheanomaly
6 жыл бұрын
That Capoerista is Marcus Aurélio Martins he's got a few montages from fans up. One of the few people that purposely altered original Capoeria with modern mma. Superb Athlete! Marcus Aurélio Martins
@FightCommentary
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you all so much for watching our critiques! To see more cases of Chinese martial arts tested, please go here: kzitem.info/door/PLtdbPxlsaM_mtbEfPdb6j2EUDpi4_bS_6 Looking forward to your comments! As an update, the Tai Chi master who Xu Xiaodong beat initially to set off this whole debate is now sparring and training some kickboxing: kzitem.info/news/bejne/s3uas3uAoauXqm0
@Haydn3560
5 жыл бұрын
He was literally lei wulong
@kedabro1957
4 жыл бұрын
If you study the shaolin monk's body mechanics closely, you'll see his kicks are just the endpoint of a continuously connected rubbery web of muscle. His whole body is kicking. The TKD guy's kicks on the other hand, are separated from the body. Just thrown loosely at the target. This shows that, even if the 1000 prettified movements in a kungfu are useless in fighting, they build a larger variety of support and balance muscles that provide a more solid framework for useful moves to be launched from. The vast variety also gives kungfu artists a more detailed and nuanced understanding of combat. Even as Graceffo bitched about how incompetent kungfu stylists are in all his travels, he also said people who start out in kungfu and then move to sanshou always outperform people who start in sanshou. So, kungfu is the best place to start and the worst place to stay.
@kaibotski4939
4 жыл бұрын
Have you checked up Emanuele agustus? The drunken dancing part is awesome to watch.
@hendrikvanleeuwen9110
6 жыл бұрын
I wanna see two 'drunken style' guys fight!
@ehisey
6 жыл бұрын
The second fight kung-fu guy has been winning alot in this organization.
@kyokushinnojoe
6 жыл бұрын
I once had a living room scuffle with a guy I was pretty sure was gonna beat the snot out of me. We'd been drinking, I stood up and stumbled a bit. He got super aggressive and I got a sweet double leg to slam out of it. Pretending to be drunk has its place.
@JJO117
5 жыл бұрын
This is real life Tekken
@haffoc
6 жыл бұрын
san shou is kungfu and it holds up well.
@kennyhi4724
6 жыл бұрын
haffoc agree. Sanshou, Sanda is Chinese Kung fu. It’s very effective.
@johnnychannarong5484
6 жыл бұрын
sanshou is chinese kickboxing, adapted to keep up with modern times because kung fu only worked on kung fu.. when kung fu was invented it was in china, and no china man had seen american boxing or other styles.. Muay thai beat all kung fu.. so china came up with sanda to match muay thai and counter their clinch with shuai jiao..
@kennyhi4724
6 жыл бұрын
The origin of Sanshou is from kung fu and shuai jiao.
@Supermomo2007
5 жыл бұрын
@@johnnychannarong5484 no, wrong. so i why i win against thai boxers with my kung fu style?? because we do sparring, idiot. difference is always training method, not style.
@sjang816
3 жыл бұрын
@@Supermomo2007 I think you have real life and video games confused. a name is just a name but i have to question anyone that calls themselves supermomo
@killersalmon4359
6 жыл бұрын
I've got to hand it to the drunken kung-fu guy for maintaining the drunk stagger walk while his opponent was on the ground being seen to by the ref. That's commitment!
@lake_cooper
4 жыл бұрын
*FOR CLARIFICATION:* Bruce Lee was *not* in COBRA, the movie. It was filmed in 1981, and Bruce died in '73. The actor in that film is Bruce Lei, aka Steve Lee.
@belzebul
6 жыл бұрын
Have you gentleman reviewed Yi Long's fights? He claims to be a Shaolin monk(which he is not), but he actually has serious Traditional Martal Arts trainning background.
@anotherworldviewispossible
4 жыл бұрын
Shao Lin guy was pretty amazing. His speed and parrying were subtle and deceptive. Done properly, that "slap" to the TKD kicker's leg - should be a targeted counter-attack to a nerve group, or a vulnerable area of muscles and the circulatory system , which diminishes the strength and speed of the opponent. Every move you make, every time you touch the opponent, the goal is to break down structures. I liked this fighter the most - drunken guy comes in second. I think that the Japanes fighter may have been at a significant weight disadvantage, along with his lack of aggressiveness and speed. He seemed to have an athletic deficit, when compared to the Capoeira/BJJ fighter. I would also question the level of his Kung Fu skills.
@Milesjuste
Ай бұрын
In traditional kung fu a form is used to learn the words, sparing is learning how to use those words.
@Anail_Mhin
6 жыл бұрын
Funny to see that pattern over the years: XY does not work, do Y. Y does not work, do Z. Z does not-...and so on... After that many years practicing myself, after seeing many many different styles and fighters I can assure you one thing: Style does not matter as much as you think
@adramalech3385
6 жыл бұрын
All martial arts have simillar tehniques. Because they are all natural moves of the body. I've seen guys fighting and doing some insane Traditional Jujutsu things and they didn't even know about Jujutsu style. Try to think how would they look after 3-4 years training into actual Japanese Jujutsu or Judo. Some people are natural born fighters with an intuitive knowledge of the body and movement dynamics.
@hallobre
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, a lot of styles offer the same, but training them is not the same. Why do you think old school straight up boxing is popular, or even Muay Thai ? No crazy moves, just a straight forward training and is easy to learn. In a few months practice your good to go. That’s the main reason why Kung fu is portrayed as bad. It’s hard to master, the training sucks, and it’s too much of a round about way of doing things. I believe that today’s Kung fu is a fake or watered down version of what used to be a good product. The same fake product that Ip man has teached to Bruce lee. The real wing chun was kept a secret from him.
@Rotinaj37
5 жыл бұрын
Style matters quite a bit. There are so many bogus styles out there that it's important for people to know what to look at when wanting to learn a martial art with competitive aspirations, or self defense.
@Poodleinacan
6 жыл бұрын
Once I got a hockey puck that flew at me and landed right under my sternum. I wasn't down, but it hurt. I went and sat on the bench for a few minutes, until the pain settles. I wasn't winded, surprisingly, even though I wasn't expecting to get hit like that.
@arbogast4950
4 жыл бұрын
Kung fu has the deepest well with the most leaky bucket. Its up to the practitioner to pick what works for them and solely focus on those handful of techniques.
@thingyee1118
6 жыл бұрын
Alot of hate on Kung Fu however there are plenty of videos showing useless karate points based training and flashy useless kicks from takewando just an example. I think your being quite scrutinise of kung fu. Most Karate i know wouldn’t stand a chance against western wing chung.
@richardcopersroommate8928
6 жыл бұрын
thingyee1118 all Kung-Fu styles are bullshit except for sanda related stuff
@JuanPablo-tx5pr
6 жыл бұрын
Aymen Nib You don't know shit about kung fu. I would bet you don't practice any martial art. You're just an internet talker.
@richardcopersroommate8928
6 жыл бұрын
Mars Ultor I do and I compete regularly actually. Got a sanda local competition coming up in 2 weeks. I just do effective time tested stuff against fully resisting trained opponents , not fucking around with shit like wing chun or whatever. And not jerking myself off about all these supposed morals that martial arts teach. I actually practice fighting, mainly because it’s fun.
@dickbison
5 жыл бұрын
Choy Lee Fut is a traditional style and they do pretty well in sanda and kickboxing
@jackietate4047
4 жыл бұрын
Let's see some Mma fighters vs high level shuai jao and sanda fighters.
@Supermomo2007
4 жыл бұрын
Or hung gar and choy lee fut fighters
@kourtneyhanley
2 жыл бұрын
That butterfly kick was nice
@abirneji
4 жыл бұрын
that capo guy was interesting he had so much momentum in his kicks, they looked terrifying also that drunken guy was a learning experience too, I never understood how you would hit anyone just flopping around like that I didn't realize they just suddenly snap out of the drunken sway and catch you off guard, it sounds really dangerous for both fighters since one has to actually commit to that
@SplittingAtomsTV
6 жыл бұрын
Kung fu masters of the old times were really into fighting, duels to death were frequent, there's this one famous master who boasted he never had to hit a man a 2nd time cos they would die from the 1st punch, he had a record too. The fighters would defend their style and school to no end. The old timers would've been interested in testing their skill and would've been seen in MMA/UFC. I suppose the reason we don't see these proud kung fu fighters in UFC is because they are a dying breed, the fighting stopped ages ago, no more need to learn to fight to defend ur life and school like before.
@easternstrategist5276
6 жыл бұрын
muslim salikhov, cung le are both Sanda fighters. Most of Sanda fighters are in kickboxing because they make money there more than MMA. If you refer to traditional martial art, welcome to try the game in Chinese wrestling, mongolian wrestling. They are hold every year.
@eclipsewrecker
6 жыл бұрын
In the least, The way Kung Fu is widely taught and practiced is flawed.
@Nothernmantis
5 жыл бұрын
Agree
@RoonVonBismarck
6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that in the 1st fight both fighters were asked not to land actual hits to their opponents so that the TV show can be made.
@zCopyCatz
6 жыл бұрын
Jerry, do a case study on Emanuel Augustus, a boxer with drunken-boxing like style, even Floyd Mayweather said he was the toughest opponent he has ever fought.
@FightCommentary
6 жыл бұрын
Interesting! On it!
@thelastdragon3242
6 жыл бұрын
I've said this a million times but it bares repeating. Kung fu takes a long time to master, not only that the difference between a lot of the MMA fighters and Kung Fu students is the amount of time spent sparing. Sparing is experience, and I would love to show that chinese Dong guy why it is effective, and also that he's doing kung fu and doesn't even realize it.
@coulj6917
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree, sparring is the difference too many traditional kung Fu schools do little or no no sparring at all. I have a saying " if you don't spar, you don't know how to fight. Why are Muy Thai fighters 1000 times more effective than most stand up fighting styles? because of the emphasis on sparring!
@CrimsonTheFoxGod
6 жыл бұрын
Drunken gets easier after you get the swagger going. My school practiced several forms of Kung-fu and we sparred cross styles. I only progressed so far but red shorts there was fantastic. Very nice rolling axe kick out of a combination attack, beautiful! The snake style was impressive, but alas I am not as familiar with it. That snake seemed slower than the ones I sparred with... but definitely more skilled.
@kungfubalkan6646
6 жыл бұрын
Have you reacted to this one: kzitem.info/news/bejne/y4tuqGqbh59jrag ? Anyways, I do agree with you, Kung Fu (and any other TMA) just needs to have realistic sparring and it can be pretty useful. Btw, whats your opinion on HEMA, wrestling specifically?
@ericdavis9210
6 жыл бұрын
KungFu Balkan Good point! If you don't spar, you won't be able to fight lol.
@kungfubalkan6646
6 жыл бұрын
Yup
@RosssRoyce
5 жыл бұрын
Rolling on the floor laughing with the drunken style guy!
@jvillain9946
3 жыл бұрын
How does drunken boxes stand up under a lot of forward pressure?
@wotchthiz
6 жыл бұрын
Huh. Drunken fist can be effective against the right guy. Who knew. This is one of the best vids yet. I wonder if anyone is practicing kungfu concepts? Not an actual martial art but more of a esoteric way of fighting that uses mma as a base and incorporates the most effective kungfu techniques as well as the most effective techniques from other martial arts.
@mikelroa8719
4 жыл бұрын
In 4:15 you can see the "wing chun" that Vitor Belfort used to KO Wanderley Silva
@diosdadoapias
6 жыл бұрын
in that grappling situation in a real street fight, the karate or kungfu guy may use the finger or spear hand strike or extended knuckles to strike the face or eyes against the guy on top. the kungfu or karate guy will counter the grappling by punching with a gloved-hands or by grappling also which is not his forte.
@donnyvu5153
5 жыл бұрын
That monk is real. Korean guy was lucky it was a paid promotion. That was the real Kung Fu you keep on making fun of.
@motorve
6 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you realize this but two of the greatest MMA practitioners of our day (Connor Mcgregor and Jon bones jones) incorporates Chinese Kung fu in their styles.
@motorve
6 жыл бұрын
hes a HUGE fan of bruce lee and kung fu so i assumed he used it.
@jtcen1215
6 жыл бұрын
mcgregor's base fighting style is boxing. however, he uses a wide karate stance for blitzes. Jones' base fighting style is wrestling and kickboxing (heavily dependent on his unusually long reach).
@fgsf9
6 жыл бұрын
Lol what is bull taking about they use almost 0 Chinese kempo lol both fighters are very effective though
@shimy333
5 жыл бұрын
Where? Which fight?
@Rotinaj37
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they incorporate a few hand picked techniques for flavor, and 99 percent of what they actually do is legit technique from boxing, TKD, wrestling, bjj, muay thai, etc. Also how do people still not know that Conor's name only has one "n" in it?
@MysticNinjaJay
5 жыл бұрын
I like the ring in the capoeira fight. In MMA the cage can get in the way and the ring with ropes is not ideal for Martial Arts especially the grappling. I would much rather have an open space like that circular ring. Also the platform the Shaolin Monk and Tae Kwon Do guys fight on was nice. The dry ice effect also makes it look mystical.
@toddbest8347
3 жыл бұрын
Good footwork, with ineffective contact!
@jackasschicken5922
6 жыл бұрын
Ribs are the worst. One time, in the grocery store, I was leaning on the cart all weird while my wife perused the shampoo section. A sneeze came up on me so fast that I rolled over the floating rib and it hurt so bad I dropped like the dude from the drunken kickboxer kicked me.
@hanoli7933
4 жыл бұрын
They have openings when they kick so its interesting why any of them didnt kick while the other dude was kicking?
@longobardilounge8238
6 жыл бұрын
In Choy Lay Fut we do a lot of forearm conditioning due to some of the strikes.
@Herowebcomics
4 жыл бұрын
It was awesome to see how amazing drunken style was! Kung fu CAN work!
@channcguzman832
5 жыл бұрын
Was the drunken guy's shorts backwards?
@CrowdPleeza
3 жыл бұрын
Does this or that martial art work? I think they do but 2 things need to be taken into account. 1. What your skill level is when using a style. 2. Who you're fighting. Different types of people will affect how you're able to use a style. An attacker who's around your size and age will result in one type of fight for you. An attacker who is heavier and stronger than you will result in another type of fight for you. The key is to train against a variety of people of various ages,sizes and fighting abilities.
@M_K-Bomb
6 жыл бұрын
Great find in the clips. But more so, respect to acknowledging the skill that is shown.
@dorjedriftwood2731
5 жыл бұрын
I honestly believe drunken fighting requires serious meditation work in order to get the metabolism of alcohol to change entirely, I don’t think any drunken tradition has retained this technology at all it likely requires certain herbs to be included in your daily regimen and a particular diet. As will as chi gung and very intense balance training. As far as Chinese medicine is concerned liver is controller of anger and rage so if you could direct that energy properly it might have potential to over load it. The man who created drunken kung fu said he learned the art from the god of war through visions likely brought on through alcoholism or just some sort of random divine grace. In any case he was a severe alcoholic who was so debilitated by alcohol that he could only sustain himself initially through begging. He likely gained a reputation as a fighter by being sloppy around intolerant kung fu sifu’s who felt like teaching him a lesson, he easily won these impromptu matches and so gained a following. But the dude was drunk he wasn’t pretending I bet his close students ended up paying for lessons in wine. I’ve only seen one actually drunken fighter but I’m not sure he was a real master of anything. I would love it if someone could actually find a Taoist alchemy manual about drunken boxing.
@danpt2000
6 жыл бұрын
7:58 Wow!! I am both surprised and impressed.
@heftarc3290
4 жыл бұрын
blanka from Street Fighter must be based on capoeira.
@eclecticcerebro8287
5 жыл бұрын
Is this not full contact becauss they are not trying to hit eachother in the first one...
@xracer5995
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload mate 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@bigwig2659
6 жыл бұрын
What people completely miss about chinese martial arts is that the skill set or 'rules' are the defining or in this case limiting factor. I love mma its amazing and dominates combat sports. Its the evolution of things. If you liken chinese or most traditional martial arts to chess, there are very strict boundaries or rules. Winning the game is done by the strategy and limits within the match. Otherwise players would just pick up their opponents queen and 'win'. This is what mma enthusiasts are doing with chinese martial arts. Or in a game of football (soccer) picking up the ball, barging through everyone on the field of play and placing it in the net and proclaiming how good you are at this game and how everyome else sucks simply because you were able to meet tbe objective of getting the ball in the net. Kung fu is about beating someone in a match with honour and skill based on very specific guidelines. You can argue its outdated and cant compete. I agree but its beauty and valued ate loved by enthusiasts nonetheless. Theyre different activities/ sports even? Its no different to the boxing/mma debate. If you use opposing or different skills its not a match up. Theres no striker v grappler in reality in mma. Its all mma v mma. If you fight kung fu v kung thats an entirely different outcome.
@darrendelong
6 жыл бұрын
Kung fu in chinese can mean anything that is skilled and not necessarily pertaining to martial arts. If you are talking about traditional chinese wushu or martial art. it properly do work in the ancient times but because it so strictly retain the traditional techniques, it refuses to innovate and thus fail to evolve progressively. MMA on the other hand is an ever changing improvisation of various martial art forms to achieve the most effective combat techniques will for sure overpower most traditional martial art styles.
@Masterofeverythinish
6 жыл бұрын
This is a pet peeve of mine, you guys don't mention that kung fu is an umbrella term for the many martial arts in china. It has wrestling (shuai jiao). ground wrestling, joint locks, wrist control (chin na) Kicking (ti) and striking (da). Chinese kung fu fighters are suppose to have a combination of all of this in their fighting style to be considered true masters, as well as learning how to use and disarm weapons. There are many forms of kung fu that work, and there is so much to it. arm bars and shoulder throws, scissor sweeps, wrist control, kicks, palm strikes, etc. The reason why it's not popular is due to a lack of understanding of the art. It's slowly coming back to the mainstream thanks to people like cung li and zabit magomedsharipov (a current russian ufc fighter, well known for his skill, both in kung fu and mma). Also Muslim Salikhov, a russian kickboxer and mma fighter uses kung fu prominently in his style. He is literally known as the king of kung fu and he's popular within the Russian mma community and he currently fights in the ufc. Even the karate used in the ufc has its origins in white crane kung fu. Karate literally came from kung fu, and from okinawan masters studying chinese martial arts text. Karate has an incredible strong origin in white crane. Shuai jiao (chinese wrestling) has literally been on earth for 5,000 years, not even including the fact that the chinese nomadic tribes have been wrestling before the concept of shuai jiao. There is so much to learn from in kung fu, it's so diverse that people have a hard time truly getting to know it. It's a shame what people think about it and what it has been downgraded to. But it's slowly coming back to the limelight as more practitioners are recognized for their skills.
@shimy333
5 жыл бұрын
Sure...that's why no one fighting under the " kung fu umbrella " seems to ever win a fight...
@jannujokunen2701
6 жыл бұрын
So.. not even one Sanda match? That is what kung fu in the ring is.
@piehalo
6 жыл бұрын
I would call that first video a demonstration more than a fight
@nasho7058
4 жыл бұрын
The last one is crazy
@tokydemonkey508
4 жыл бұрын
Hey question for pretty much everyone cuz I feel stuck on that last fight, shouldn't have the ref called it off after that first kick to the body?
@yagskie1984
4 жыл бұрын
0:49 I dont care bout the fight, I just care about the ref who slipped out of the ring
@Chronicskillness
Жыл бұрын
He's using like a Xingyi guard but seems to be doing YiQuan.
@michaeldique
5 жыл бұрын
8:00 Perfectly executed side kick.
@johndrake5467
4 жыл бұрын
At 7:13 the drunken master used the same "drop to the ground leg kick" that Antonio Inoki used almost exclusively in his "boxing vs wrestling" fight against Mohammed Ali. See kzitem.info/news/bejne/uLCjmKWsnoeaaGk That way he was able to damage Ali's leg without Ali being able to punch him. Jhoon Rhee was in Ali's corner and eventually told him to use low blocks to check the leg kicks. At 4:15 the capoeira fighter uses trapping hands like he's a wing chun fighter. He traps the lead hand of the kung fu fighter (pak sao? jut sao?) and hits the kung fu fighter and follows up with a boxing blast. A wing chun straight blast could have been used their as well but the boxing blast seems to work better.
@ComicusFreemanius
Жыл бұрын
I laughed, I cried, I learned more taunts.
@bertnerny
5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know your channel very well but I’ve never seen you include Yi Long. Is there a reason for that?
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