People say Windows XP slows down after just a few months of use... but how about after 9½ years? I put it to the test! Recommended reading: lifehacker.com/5435523/you-don...
I miss the good old days when Microsoft actually used try to keep the setup process fun. Step-by-step updates on what part of the installation is occurring real-time, and introducing you to new features while you wait. The music at the end of XP installation was a real nice touch. Now? A massive circle with a percentage in the middle, and then you're greeted with options on how badly you want your privacy breached. Radically different UX? Work it out yourself, we ain't showing you around (Windows 8).
@rollercoastermaniac2
7 жыл бұрын
"Check out the new way to use windows: YOU CAN'T"
@Lyrabon
7 жыл бұрын
elucidate Would you like to share everything you do and type such as passwords credit card numbers etc. with Microsoft so we can send it to hackers? ( Yes ) ( Yes )
@germaineliew2012
7 жыл бұрын
elucidate The only tutorial that shows up in Windows 8 is how to pull out some options bar on the right of the touchscreen. Windows 10, it pushes OneDrive hard. And that "We're happy you're here", "Many features to get excited about" screen that shows up before the desktop is loaded makes me want to smash my computer screen.
@retrogamer33
7 жыл бұрын
Windows only slows down if it too much shite is installed and never maintained
@MoxieCatte
7 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason why people think Windows computers 'slow down' over time is because they don't manage what programs are allowed to start up with the computer and run in the background. Unless it is a driver I don't let anything start up with the computer, and I hardly see a performance decrease even after several years of running an install.
@megabojan1993
8 жыл бұрын
If you don't do frequent maintenance of your Windows, it WILL slow down drastically. I defrag my hard drives, clean the crap files, disable the unneeded apps at startup, and my windows is still fast even after 3 years of usage.
@wUFr
8 жыл бұрын
+MegaBojan1993 main problem is having windows on standard hdd. On ssd you can have "X" apps that will run after startup, and you wont notice any slowdown.
@megabojan1993
8 жыл бұрын
***** Theoretically if you have a tons of startups apps they will slow down even the SSD drive, but that slowdown will be just a tiny one compared to one produced by the HDD drives.
@wUFr
8 жыл бұрын
yep, but compated to standard hdds, it will be just few seconds and you wont probably notice it
@megabojan1993
8 жыл бұрын
***** HDD's are so outdated right now. If I was richer I would replace my 1TB with an SSD drive and never look back :)
@HobertMcFarlandtechandcargeek
8 жыл бұрын
+MegaBojan1993 My old Pavilion from 2001 ran like new up until the hard drive screwed up! :P
@Dan-TechAndMusic
8 жыл бұрын
Any operating system can go slow if not well maintained. It'd be Linux, Windows or Mac.
@youonlymemetwice2365
8 жыл бұрын
+Daniël's Tech & Music Channel Installing crap on Linux doesn't slow it down. Very little software is run as a service on Linux, you could install all the packages on a distro and it would never get that slow. Windows is much worse affected by this issue. Part of the reason for this is it's admittedly a lot easier to install software on Windows, running an installer. On the plus side you don't get installers putting bloatware and useless software on your computer on Linux, you only get package configuration scripts which were allowed by the distribution and whatever you manage to run yourself. In practical terms Windows is far more severely affected by crappy software. Most users don't ever uninstall it, so as far as I'm concerned Windows slows down over time.
@youonlymemetwice2365
8 жыл бұрын
+Kameko K Windows has parallels for most of systemd, coreutils in different forms, optionally its own compiler (which is definitely worse than GCC, don't even kid yourself for a second, GCC is also optional), Python could be on both (but it's nicer than vbscript or proprietary code the alternative glue on Windows). What I'm trying to get at is... what are you talking about? Do you even know what you're talking about?
@agrecascinogameplaym
8 жыл бұрын
+Kameko K How are the GCC, coreutils, python, or APT bad?
@agrecascinogameplaym
8 жыл бұрын
+Kameko K Obvious bait is obvious.
@youonlymemetwice2365
8 жыл бұрын
+actualdecentchannelname More obvious when they actually write a comment explicitly pointing out they're trolling.
@lmull3
8 жыл бұрын
I swear, these videos are going to make the fanboy crowd kinda rowdy.
@northhankspin
8 жыл бұрын
...speaking of fanboys
@lmull3
8 жыл бұрын
+northhankspin gr8 b8 m8
@Khyree_Holmes
8 жыл бұрын
+lmull3 Yeah.... (says the guy using Linux) I stay off the fanboy bandwagon, I'm in it for the freedom and I don't hate Windows, I just can't afford it, so I am all Linux.
@lmull3
8 жыл бұрын
+Khyree Holmes I use Linux because I happen to like it. I like the way it works, I like what I can do with it, and I like options. I have better things to do than make it my life's mission to prove how awesome an operating system is, I mean, it just doesn't matter. It's like the people that go nuts over sports teams, it's a bunch of children, who cares? Lol.
@Khyree_Holmes
8 жыл бұрын
+lmull3 ON POINT!!!! YES!!!!
@Billy-rr7re
7 жыл бұрын
9 years without re-installation and using the original factory image. cool
@IAmNotAFunguy
8 жыл бұрын
Whoever owned that was clearly a big fan of SpongeBob.
@rollercoastermaniac2
7 жыл бұрын
Although windows itself does not slow down over time, people can download things, including viruses, much easier and fill it faster, hence the "uhhh windows is slower than everything because it dies overtime."
@mitch3443ful
8 жыл бұрын
Sorry Linux guys. 😚 Any other complaints??
@piticea
8 жыл бұрын
I don't really like desktop linux BUT it wasn't a new ("clean") installation of windows XP there was a lot of crap preinstalled by the company and i bet the startup was full of garbage too. AND the newer updates of XP actually improve the startup time by a bit so there's an actual difference so this video is technically pointless
@piticea
8 жыл бұрын
there was more crap on the "clean" installation than on the old one
@vwestlife
8 жыл бұрын
Removing the unneeded programs made no measurable improvement in performance. Unless a program runs a startup script and/or remains resident in RAM, it will *not* affect Windows' performance just by sitting there on the hard drive doing nothing. It's not like we're still in the 486 era where every icon that Windows had to display on the desktop would slow it down. The only negative effect is simply the amount of disk space it takes up.
@InternetSurfer19
8 жыл бұрын
+Carol Vitez Any other complaints or you just mad you got proved wrong?
@leonardoantonio8756
8 жыл бұрын
+MrWreck Sure they'll come up with something, it's the new religion "the linuxology"
@nushnume
Жыл бұрын
Those who say Windows always gets slower are the ones that install tons of junk whenever they install a piece of software that asks them if they want to also install something else and they just click yes/next/checkmark without even paying attention to what the installer is asking them.Also a failing hard drive can cause slow performance and then people blame Windows for it.I dealt with a lot of computers that had failing hard drives with a bunch of uncorrectable sectors that made Windows crash or extremely slow and people tought it was Windows' fault
@yogalD
6 жыл бұрын
TBH the "reinstalled" Windows looks more bloated than the 9.5 year installation
@Cvolton
7 жыл бұрын
9:11 even Windows XP Professional usually plays the music, it just doesn't have the drivers for most sound cards at that point yet
@varikvalefor
7 жыл бұрын
How to keep a computer running: MBAM, CCleaner, and self-made Batch files to kill unnecessary processes at startup.
@hackerinsidetm4271
7 жыл бұрын
Finally, somebody who *knows* how to use Windows properly!
@SexycuteStudios
6 жыл бұрын
BlackViper is your friend.
@user-mq1fb7oj9g
7 жыл бұрын
Some days ago, my dell inspiron was so slow it took 9 hours to shut off(after nine hours, my dad just pressed the on/off button😂😂😂😂😂)
@bedlamnfse
6 жыл бұрын
been running windows 10 for over 1 year and no slow down for me, just need to maintain the os and keep on top of the crap left behind from uninstalled programs.
@TorutheRedFox
7 жыл бұрын
9 year old computer that saw a lot of use hard drive still works fine 4 year old MacBook Pro that saw a lot of use hard drive is dying, and is messed up to a point that OS X refuses to boot and Windows is slightly slower than before
@cooliofoolio
7 жыл бұрын
4 year old Windows 8(10 updated) Unusably slow, Boot is 10 minutes 9 year old MacBook Pro Mac OS Sierra, Boots in half a second.
@thomas4891
7 жыл бұрын
that's if the mac books not blown its head off by then
@thomas4891
7 жыл бұрын
wtf 10 mins seriously
@applescruff1969
5 жыл бұрын
I have a Mac OS X from circa 2009 and it still works fine. I hope your head doesn't explode.
@cooliofoolio
5 жыл бұрын
@CSP's Random Yes, the hard drive was failing haha. I have since built a desktop
@the3dom
7 жыл бұрын
Time itself It's not problem. It's installing, deinstalling, reinstalling crappy software, system 'interventions' and updates of updates of updates ... what cause system slow down. If you use few things on computer, it could work forever or until hardware failure.
@rameynoodles152
7 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm sure that all of that stuff has happened in the last 9 freaking years of use on that laptop... so...
@the3dom
7 жыл бұрын
Not really. It looks like almost brand new (grandma computer) installed Windows to me and it's just used for lot's of years as modern typewriter and business machine in general. But, if you try 40 pirated titles per week, visit bazillion porn sites and install dozen of make-your-computer-run-faster tweakers and cleaners, that Windows is doomed
@Sloposse
6 жыл бұрын
The corporate version of xp does play that catchy music when installing it the only time you wont hear it is when the sound card driver isnt installed first
@mihiguy
7 жыл бұрын
For the record, it does not depend on the edition, but whether you run sysprep with OOBE option (Out of Box Experience). When you do so, and you have already installed soundcard drivers (you should have installed all drivers before to make the experience good for the end user), the OOBE music will play.
@shermanzuki
Жыл бұрын
Yo you should definitely archive that recovery partition since I too have a dv5000 (I have a dv5040us)
@shermanzuki
Жыл бұрын
Or the recovery media
@sbrazenor2
6 жыл бұрын
If you buy a cheap, low end computer that had the original version of XP and barely met the minimum specs, I could understand there might be a problem. By SP3, Windows XP required more resources and if you never added RAM, it may have increased virtual memory use to compensate. That would slow it down. Additionally, browsing is likely slower, since webpages are more complex. That's not the OS's fault.
@XDSDDLord
6 жыл бұрын
I've owned dozens of devices, ran Windows since 3.1, worked in IT and as a field test. And I've ran both Windows and Linux and BSD side by side regularly. A properly maintained system will not slow down, baring hardware failures. Computers aren't people, their cells don't die, on fully functional hardware, regularly used machines don't mix up their one's and zeros no matter the software. What kills Windows is not Windows itself but the fact that most people who make crap make it for Windows and most Windows users don't know how to maintain their computers properly. A lot of linux users also don't bother maintaining it properly because they don't use it much. Like or hate Windows, it's not magical enough to deteriorate from some fantastical version of bit rot that resembles a fallen tree.
@knexfan100
6 жыл бұрын
XDSDDLord this should be simple: run adware and virus scans once in a while, don't run random programs without background checking them, disable useless/unneeded start up programs, and defragment your drives.
@Rekt-M8-v4
6 жыл бұрын
"Gets slower over time" thats because you download more programs over times which affect your sidescreen
@BillAnt
6 жыл бұрын
Egg-zactly!! :)
@ENB2002
6 жыл бұрын
Whenever I get a secondhand computer, I always wipe the drive no matter what to get whatever personal data that may be on the hard drive (or SSD) off, and start fresh with an installation that I know isn't infested with malware or messed up in some other way.
@E-virtuosEu
5 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@morganrussman
5 жыл бұрын
Good idea, you never know what is on a computers hard drive or ssd.
@FSM_Reviews
4 жыл бұрын
I always try to avoid reinstalling operating systems in any computer I find, unless it is seriously messed up or has passwords still in place. I love seeing the factory logo and info in the system properties. :)
@bookshelffury
4 жыл бұрын
It's easy to add in the factory logo and info in the properties tho... I wouldn't trust what anyone else has done with an os install. I always zero out the drive and start fresh.
@scgamer2442
8 жыл бұрын
"Going to have to reboot again" plays login sound...
@Fl0xtpvnk
Жыл бұрын
I don’t remember that calming music during setup
@partitionhlep
Жыл бұрын
your sound drivers were probably not configured back then
@RealShipmate
6 жыл бұрын
"50 Cent - Shake That Ass Girl." A true classic.
@evanetheridge3798
8 жыл бұрын
The owner of that laptop really liked spongebob.
@HBC101TVStudios
8 жыл бұрын
+SeemsLegit “SeemsLegitGaming” Gaming Yeah, and the owner was a girl, look at the hundreds of music in the Documents folder.
@spicey4522
7 жыл бұрын
If you go into task manager it shows all the programs that boot on startup and their effects on the time it takes to do so. You can disable their ability to boot on start up, which should fix whatever slows windows
@KylesDigitalLab
4 жыл бұрын
I believe you can just run "systeminfo" in the command prompt and it will tell you the install timestamp.
@uxwbill
8 жыл бұрын
All this holds up nicely so long as the qualifiers remain true. A lot of people don't know or don't care about maintaining their software properly. They'll install anything, never run the first system maintenance utility and then the performance really does fall off. Is that really a Windows specific problem? Sample data for other systems (primarily Macintosh) that I've collected says "no", even though it's limited as compared to Windows users. The oldest surviving installation of Windows I've got right now is Windows 2000 Professional on a Dell Latitude D800. It still runs perfectly well, with no notable loss of performance. That installation is a little over ten years old, done not long after I bought the machine in early 2005. The Windows installation date is supposedly also encoded in a registry value, although I've never looked into how that can be decoded.
@DeanDoom
8 жыл бұрын
+uxwbill systeminfo | find /i "install date" in a cmd should pull the date from the registry key or even systeminfo should suffice.... along with all the system info
@cartooningwithcarl
8 жыл бұрын
+uxwbill Yes this is a Windows specific problem, Linux does not have this problem.
@Bob.martens
3 жыл бұрын
I miss XP.
@RedstoneMiner18
Жыл бұрын
Buy a new one
@lesrogers7310
5 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhhh……..the old XP startup and shutdown sounds.....can't beat these!
@qwertykeyboard5901
5 жыл бұрын
yes
@varikvalefor
7 жыл бұрын
That Windows XP song is absolutely fantastic. :)
@yaboydevesh9919
7 жыл бұрын
*Nostalgia kicks in*
@Khyree_Holmes
4 жыл бұрын
8:50 - The MOST relaxing Music I've ever heard for a Windows Install (on KZitem) back in 2014 or 2016, also I slept to this on repeat around this time, it as my 1st time using Linux in 2014 and I'm still using Linux to this day with NO REGRETS. I have the Install Music downloaded!
@joshm264
4 жыл бұрын
My parents had the EXACT SAME laptop, so seeing this is very nostalgic for me :D
@simtitan1
8 жыл бұрын
It does get slower over time, considering a large majority of users don't routinely perform normal maintenance like you did. If you do maintain your install, it does tend to help quite a bit.
@artvandelayimports
8 жыл бұрын
I've been using my pc for 3 years and haven't done any maintenance and its actually gotten faster because I upgraded from 7 to 8.1 to 10
@Matticitt
7 жыл бұрын
I don't know what people are doing with their computers. On my current PC I run Win10 updated from Win7 originally installed in 2011. Never wiped. Never reinstalled. It sometimes has minor issues but speed didn't really go down - or if it did it's such a minor decrese I haven't noticed anything. And it's not like I use it lightly. It's pretty much on 24/7, hunderds of programs and games installed, multiple browsers, dozens of apps from the Win10 store. I do video editing on it, I game on it - It works just fine. I also have a laptop from 2010 which had Win7 on it originally. I updated it to Win10. Once again - never wiped, never reinstalled. It run really fast and I even timed the boot time every couple of months and it stayed the same untill the drive in it died ;) BTW before updating to Win10 both also run just fine on Win7.
@stili774
7 жыл бұрын
No Showdown Problem here tooJust defrag once a month
@DioStone
4 жыл бұрын
3:47 Those Mp3s are downloaded from Limewire. They have to be.
@blopsmash
8 жыл бұрын
tfw westlife literally rips every wrong opinion to shreds
@MarkPMus
8 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, keep them up! And you've got nice handwriting! Happy Christmas! :-)
@renovatiovr
6 жыл бұрын
I love the mechanical lock on the laptop's top to prevent strangers from opening it
@igeekone
8 жыл бұрын
Also, keep in mind the state of the hard drive. Run a software like CrystalDiskInfo to check if the drive is still healthy. I had a HDD that still worked but had more reallocated sectors than it could handle, so it slowed down.
@speeddemon574onVM
5 жыл бұрын
Marry Christmas VWestLife from 2018!
@ProtoMario
8 жыл бұрын
I can confirm 100% that my Computer takes 15 seconds to start up, this is running the same windows from 2010, windows 7. It was slow and had errors with some older mother boards, but currently 15 seconds new MSI motherboard in it. My wife's computer running the same windows 7 from 2013, takes 12 seconds to start up. Just saying man, I personally see no difference, unless you have a shitty mobo.
@robertnussberger2028
6 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on what you use the pc for. Usually when I hear about windows being very very slow, I think about the computer filled with a whole lot of junk and probably some of the junk applications and stuff contain viruses that run in the background and slow the computer down by taking processor power from the important applications. Maybe trying to set up software to where it configures the applications in a smart efficient way soo that it can run faster and will be less prone to crash. When a computer undergoes updates, the update is an expanded version of the application so it can give the application more features. But that can take up space in the memory and processor power. And so it will slow the pc down. Although those are my theories. I got a Windows XP machine and it works very very fast. One click and my file pops up. For my word processor, it takes about 6 to 12 seconds for it to load as it turns on. But it is still good. The machine is from 2003 or 04. I use OpenOfficeWrite word processor. I have my XP offline from the ethernet port. I work offline with my desktop and I write stories and do schoolwork on it and transfer it to my chromebook via usb drive.
@robertnussberger2028
6 жыл бұрын
What I mean by "Junk" is the useless files and applications that no longer serve perpous. I do not mean to affend anyone.
@BillAnt
6 жыл бұрын
Here's my take on this issue... I've ran various version of Windows for the last 20+ years such as 98, XP, skipped Vista to 7, skipped 8.x to 10. So while it does seem to slow down over time under normal usage, it does NOT SLOW down by being stored away in a closet. Big difference! It seems that due to app installations, the registry gets clogged up a bit, thus the sluggishness of the system. But again, just by storing Windows away in a drawer for a decade, it will run just as fast as on the day it was stored away. Now, it makes me cringe when I hear people say "Oh just reinstall Windows!!" Right, with many years or even decades or careful, painstaking, and time consuming installations, system tweaks, app configurations, including specialized apps with unique hardware lock keys, I find it laughable to follow the foolish advice of "Just reinstall Windows!" If under normal usage it becomes sluggish, simply run AutoRuns (docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns) and disable the crap that's doing so. Another solution without reinstalling it is to clone it onto a small and cheap SSD drive. Trust me it works wonders. ;) Just like with anything else simply give it a little tuneup and it will spring back to snappiness and happiness. :) So there you have it folks, I agree completely with VWestlife, there's no need to reinstall Windows, unless it got destroyed by some nasty virus or hardware failure.
@austintaylor9447
6 жыл бұрын
This is probably because computer manufacturers add a whole bunch of trial software and other bloatware which runs in the background at startup. If you need to reinstall Windows don't use the install media that came with the computer and buy a new copy of Windows if you can afford it. This is because the install media that comes with new computers have the trial software and other bloatware built in. Or you can uninstall the bloatware if the computer lets you.
@archgirl
6 жыл бұрын
Austin Taylor Windows 7 and newer are free downloads on Microsoft's website, so as long as you still have your product key for your machine, it shouldn't cost you anything to reinstall with a fresh copy instead of the bundled bloatware filled copy, minus the cost of a writable DVD if you don't have a spare one or a USB to use. :)
@BilisNegra
6 жыл бұрын
The factory restore image here does include HP bloatware BUT does not include the software installed in the old installation by the computer's user. You can trade one thing for the other, it's a fair test. Consider the old installation includes no less than a whole Adobe suite, a really heavy piece of software.
@RaduTek
3 жыл бұрын
9:07 Every XP Home and Pro (including Tablet PC and Media Center) have the OOBE title.wma music. The music will not be played/not be heard if the audio drivers were not installed by Setup. XP doesn't include all sound drivers and on most computers, those must be installed later.
@BeautifulAngelBlossom
3 жыл бұрын
You only Hear music on Prebult computers mostly cause they had driver all set up
@asadava
8 жыл бұрын
That's the windows xp installation music!
@RockeyDAproductions
7 жыл бұрын
im watching this thinking "this laptop looks like a slow pice of shit" while watching this on a 2002 inspiron 8600, suprisingly well considering im running mce 2005 i have oprea, chrome, skype, uttorent and discord open from a chrome window while wathcing. 15 years old and still my daily driver.
@TheEPROM9
8 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to do this test with 7.
@xponen
8 жыл бұрын
+Stephen Tidwell , 20 minute!? I used to Hibernate instead of Shut Down and my Win 10 boot slower every time. Turn out its because I had 6Gb RAM and it load them from disk each boot.
@Vynncent
8 жыл бұрын
+Stephen Tidwell Wouldn't Windows BlueScreen after so many read/write attempts? XP and 7 did that for me.
@Vynncent
8 жыл бұрын
***** That explains a lot
@silentscribes
7 жыл бұрын
if that laptop has the notorious nvidia graphics card, I can't imagine it would work long enough to test anything, the fact that it is 9 yrs old means it probably doesn't or you got a lucky one. One quick question though, how do we know that computer was being used on the same install of xp for the last 9 years. Judging by the stickers on the outside, the desktop and start menu looked a little too clean for 9 years old.
@IntellitechStudios
7 жыл бұрын
silentscribes he proved its ago in cmd. Likely it was so bad at one point it was tuned up, no way it stayed that way considering external conditions
@hartleymartin
8 жыл бұрын
I think the reason that Windows slows down is due to disk fragmentation and then a number of extra junk programs or malware that accumulates over time. Most typical computer users generally do not perform regular maintenance such as disk defragmentation or clean-up scans. Linux generally runs fast because the people who use Linux tend to be more tech-savvied and will perform regular maintenance, software updates, etc to optimise performance. I'm using a 2011 MacBook Pro which got a performance boost with the installation of an SSD. I had problems getting disk-cloning software to work properly so in the end I just did a fresh install of the latest OSX and installed the latest versions of my usual programs (FireFox, Chrome, LibreOffice, MuseScore) and it runs beautifully. 19-seconds boot and 4 seconds shutdown!
@Shytzedaka
8 жыл бұрын
its true. however most professionals in Windows also dont use disk fragmentation because they see it as something irrelevent.
@JonnyInfinite
8 жыл бұрын
don't forget to enable TRIM on that MacBook
@hartleymartin
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reminder. I also did it for my old Mac Pro which has a 240GB SSD for the boot drive.
@farhanatashiga3721
8 жыл бұрын
02:58 i like how you sounds angry."this thing have been running it for 9 years"
@connorm955
2 жыл бұрын
It was probably a tad slow back when it was new, because of all the crapware that came with it. The OEM logo, info and wallpaper to me is the only good part of a factory install.
@Laserchicken88
8 жыл бұрын
Really like your follow-up vids, keep it up.
@m4ttr4w3som3
8 жыл бұрын
I love how you threw that scene from the office in there at the end. That's also my favorite show so your defiantly getting a like :D
@stevewahl5041
6 жыл бұрын
I have personally witnessed the windows slowdown over time phenomenon. There are a range of causes, including program updates and newer web pages that require more resources. I'm guessing also that anti-virus software over time takes more and more resources due to a longer list of threats to check for. The subset that is cured by reinstalling windows probably includes things that you hit before you did the "before" testing: running malwarebytes and defraging separately (I wish you'd have run a baseline timing before doing these tasks); and also things that people consider "proper maintenance" like not installing a lot of automatically starting background processes. If you're not knowledgable and attentive, an OS re-insatall will fix these things. The getting slower at shutting down problem is very real, though. I have an older XP laptop that takes much longer than I think it should to shut down; I think it could be due to some broken shutdown routines in the drivers for the different, cheap PCMCIA wifi cards I've had in it over the years, or perhaps some USB devices I've had attached. (Nothing attached currently; I get by with a thumb drive for transfers these days). Or perhaps something's not right in the registry. I have no idea how to trace this one down, and a re-install of windows would most likely cure it.
@SMGJohn
6 жыл бұрын
Its easy to fix slow Windows installations instead of just reinstalling everything, you just need to know how to do it and most people do not know how to do it so yeah... Also with Vista and newer you can fix a damaged Windows image using CMD or PowerShell and if you have a copy of Windows on DVD or ISO but with W7 and newer you can use the Online tools in CMD and Powershell to do it as well and it automatically redownloads missing files or damaged files.
@Chyrosran22
8 жыл бұрын
Ah Linux people, they promise forever and never deliver. And when you question why, you get excuses or accusations of not using it well.
@DvdXploitr
8 жыл бұрын
I got to admit, i like how you take the time to read the comments and try these tests again to prove or disprove what the comments are saying. But I would also like to throw in there, you did clean the computer up CCleaner and Malware Bites. So that did do some improvements. I wonder how the start-up/shutdown time would have been had that not been done. My mom's XP machine took about 10 MINUTES to boot up b/c there was so much malware on it but once I cleaned it up, it booted up like a fresh install. After 9 years, I can only imagine how much malware was on that computer
@Evan2
8 жыл бұрын
Question unrelated to this video: when can you catch free computer stuff at recycling centers? Do you go there at the end of the weekend (after they've been closed so people just drop their things off at the front of the building)? Will recycling workers allow you to take computers during open hours?
@anajay78
8 жыл бұрын
That music brings back memories.
@stonent
8 жыл бұрын
+anajay78 Does anyone remember the talking Wizard on XP? I had an old Dell laptop from 2002 that during the initial setup, it had the music but also a guy in Wizards clothing that used the text to speech to guide you through.
@awakejake9296
8 жыл бұрын
+stonent I think that was only on really early versions of Windows xp as windows whistler had that guy but most windows xp installations didn't have that wizard
@ruikazane5123
8 ай бұрын
Had found the real answer to that question the hard way: nope, WIndows itself doesn't slow down (save for updates) but the installed programs may do. Startup time is affected not only by CPU speed, storage speed and memory capacity (it if too small it will write to the pagefile - very bad) but also the number of programs (that runs after the welcome screen) and services (that run during the welcome screen) that run on startup. Disabling some services or setting some services to Automatic affects the speed both positively and negatively. Shutdown time is largely affected by background processes, explaining your slightly slower shutdown speed on the original install - perhaps due to Malwarebytes, if running active protection. Actual performance is hardware dependent but background processes will strike you down, much more on single core systems. New versions of programs that does run on XP might require higher system specifications, notably the difference from old and new web browsers. When playing KZitem videos in 2007 was fine, my Toshiba Satellite Pro M30 (Pentium M 1.6GHz, nVidia FX Go5200) sees quite the CPU usage with the last Chrome version, and even worse with Firefox. The hard way is the fact that XP likes to slowly disintegrate its registry. Reinstalling drivers is one way to do that, updating them without uninstalling them beforehand is another. Updates can somehow do that too - Windows or installed programs. Over time it gets slower because of all the junk - CCleaner does a good job at fixing those, but sometimes includes registry keys that are actually valid but are used by a portable (non-installer) application which can cause headaches.
@jackshihtaken
6 жыл бұрын
"Junk laptop" Good one!
@abdullahtshabal9522
5 жыл бұрын
oh yes, let me hear that glorious XP startup sound
@TechflashYT
6 жыл бұрын
you should try it on my grams 15 y old dell dimension 4600 with a hundred billion viruses.
@theycallmepapi3493
7 жыл бұрын
guys it might get slower because of updates and stuff but it can also slow down from spyware adware and other viruses . my 11 laptop had 1000 viruses 0_0 that might not be a true antivirus but i research it and it was legit.my laptop would go 100 % CPU usage to open My Computer . but i did format it and now ITS ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Imnotimportant555
7 жыл бұрын
Vwestlife on newer version of windows does windows update the system volume information folder because i have had my laptop for about a year now and it is only showing that i have had it sense yesterday which is not correct. no i have not reset my computer but it mostly seems to change when i restart my computer so i am not sure if something like that might have to do with it but the date on it is wrong.
@ruadeil_zabelin
8 жыл бұрын
Isn't the case about people actually fulltime using it, installing, uninstalling stuff, the registry slowly filling over time? It's not that it just slows down because microsoft built in some thing to do that, i don't believe that. It's just continuous usage over time. Any OS has this issue, i've seen OSX do it too.
@DoomGuyPictures
8 жыл бұрын
All I see is a bunch of Linux fanboys being burr hurt
@jesperb.245
6 жыл бұрын
Try doing the same with Vista or Windows 7
@BilisNegra
6 жыл бұрын
I've used a single installation of Vista (installing the two major Service Packs as they appeared), for 9 years! (until 1,5 yr. ago) Never felt it was worth to go through the pains of data backup and installing both the OS and the two service packs.
@timlipinski2571
8 жыл бұрын
Would it be worth while to upgrade the Operating System to Win7 or Win10 ? And/Or add a SSD ? Are you still on the same battery ? Thank you for the video ! tjl
@hallomeinnameistkarl216
2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: you can install multiple versions of windows on one PC, and you don‘t need any software! First you need an computer without any operating system. Then just install it! *BUT* , you have to always install the oldest version first!
@ChakkyCharizard
7 жыл бұрын
I have only a slightly newer model of the Pavilion (dv8000), and believe me when I tell you that mine IS stupidly slow. The fresh install of Vista (I know, I know; it's the newest I could get on the damn thing) I put on it when my other laptop died was suprisingly fast for about three days, and then it slowed to a crawl. Now it regularly stops responding when navigating folders. I remember that trying to transfer my files onto my new desktop a few months ago was fucking torture.
@thedearleaderstwinbrother6885
7 жыл бұрын
vista ? no wonder why its slow
@simonhangan2571
6 жыл бұрын
dan hold her tighter shes a fighter schneider Not true. Filling the Vista installation with crapware or using it with the minimum requirements or even lower makes it very slow. If you were using it in period-correct hardware or even newer, it would run brilliant.
@cannabalt5010
6 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail tho
@z1x1c1v1
8 жыл бұрын
Installed Windows in early 2013, still runs as fast as if I just installed it. Did I do something wrong?
@SMGJohn
6 жыл бұрын
+VWestlife Since Vista came out you can use PowerShell or CMD to fix the Windows image using either your local DVD image/ISO, or with W7 and newer you can ping Microsoft servers to do an online repair of the Windows image. So people who break things in Windows do not necessarily have to reinstall a simple command line could fix it all you and since Vista days you can make Windows do image backups so if you fuck something up badly and you have an image backup of few hours back you just reset the entire operating system to that state of time of course any programs or changes made since then will be undone. XP does not have these features though sadly or at least I cannot remember it does, if I remember it had backup but that is about it.
@nerfspartanEBF25
3 жыл бұрын
I have a Windows 98 machine that ran like garbage, as soon as I removed the antivirus program, it ran great. 99% of the time, what slows down computers is crapware in the background, which Windows machines commonly have, because most tech-illiterate grandmas use that OS, so people mix correlation with causation.
@morganrussman
Жыл бұрын
That is what I do with windows 10 almost immediately after I fleshly install windows 10 and I download all the latest updates for it, is that I uninstall all that I can from the os.
@kawawete
3 жыл бұрын
The one Windows version that slows down over time is Windows 10 at each big update, the damn thing gets slower
@diogenesesenna9323
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't experienced that on any of my machine - indeed, with the latest update my old EeePc seemed to have a slight increase.
@BigRhys02
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve found that since windows 8, it’s never been right since
@UnrealOG137
2 жыл бұрын
I've been using windows 10 for 6 1/2 years and never had that issue.
@namesurname4666
4 жыл бұрын
can you backup the recovery partition online?
@JonnyInfinite
8 жыл бұрын
On Windows 7 and 10, I just use the disk clean-up utility rather than CCleaner: that way you can remove any clog up and wasted space from registry edits and Windows.old etc. Is there no in built utility for XP?
@JonnyInfinite
8 жыл бұрын
+Calum Harris I'll have to have a look next time I'm up at my partner's parents house, they still run a Celeron Dell XP tower
@lawrenceb4954
8 жыл бұрын
Never got how someone wasn't able to run a clean windows system, yet, enjoys mucking around in Linux. Seems like they could of put fractions of that effort into learning how to maintain windows and they'd be good to go.
@joemuis23
8 жыл бұрын
this is if you install software often enough some compliment is gonna permanently break with no perceivable way to fix it. on Linux this is way less likely to happen
@KARAMEL06
6 жыл бұрын
in 2018 i have a 2008 hp compaq with windows xp and is working fine
@MerkurioBua
6 жыл бұрын
these "Geeks" just say some bullshit for Windows,cuz they are experts and use "Linux" blablabla but if we look back their memories are at "WINDOWS XP"
@wheelieblind
7 жыл бұрын
I think one of the major reasons Windows slows down has to do with the fact you need to defrag and even after that your registry and so on remain a mess and needs to be cleaned up so most people would rather reinstall it.
@thomas4891
7 жыл бұрын
maybe in the times of xp but not now
@Male_Parent
7 жыл бұрын
Wheelie Blind CCleaner usually fixes the registry problems which is why I use it a lot to keep my system clean and safe :P
@thedebug3866
8 жыл бұрын
People in the Linux community trying to put xp down. Nothing against Linux, but their community can be annoying at times.
@MarkoVuckovic32
3 жыл бұрын
I remember my old windows xp PC getting slower over time but I was a kid back than and I knew absolutely nothing about PC maintenance Today I'm using Windows 8.1 (yeah, you read that correctly) which I installed back in 2014 on hard drive and so far it didn't slow down or had any other problems. If anyone is wondering why I haven't upgraded to Windows 10 yet it's because I'm waiting for my pc to slow down and I also currently have no need for dx12.
@EvertGuzman
3 жыл бұрын
You are about to loose security updates, just upgrade
@MarkoVuckovic32
3 жыл бұрын
@@EvertGuzman I'm actually about to get a better gpu with dx 12 so I'm going to have to update anyways
@w4hid
3 жыл бұрын
Windows 8.1 is really good for old pcs and weak pcs. I am also using windows 8,1
@SymbolicSplenetic
3 жыл бұрын
@@EvertGuzman No he isn't. Win 8.1 has security update support until Jan. 2023
@MrMaxeemum
6 жыл бұрын
I still have an XP machine with an SSD as a daily driver. I have no Issues. The SSD is still as good as it always was even without Trim. XP is so much better at boot times. I love it and hope it never breaks.
@7jh6g547hhd
6 жыл бұрын
You need a serious OS upgrade.
@MrMaxeemum
6 жыл бұрын
David Trabon. Like I said I have no need.
@IntellitechStudios
6 жыл бұрын
MrMaxeemum if it ain't broke don't fix it
@theknob1
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the effort! Excellent video! Always wondered if that was true. Use to hear the tech guy Leo Laporte on TV years ago say he did this once a year to speed his computer up. Guess he was wasting his time.
@Jallge
8 жыл бұрын
Hard drive defragmenting usually helps a little bit. CCleaner doesn't help a lot, I find. The biggest problem with Windows XP in particular is that after a few years of heavy usage, it has a habit of starting up just as quickly as it always did, and then thrashing the hard drive for a while after it reaches the desktop. How long it thrashes the hard drive for seems completely dependent on how heavily the installation has been used, which of course is directly related to age. This problem is known as Windows Rot within the technical community, and information surrounding it is very unreliable. The whole thing's a bit of a mystery. If I'm not mistaken, Apple actually released the first ever 15.4" 16:10 laptop in 2001. Possibly even the first 16:10 display ever.
@XodiumLabs
8 жыл бұрын
I have done zero maintenance on my desktop and it's still just as fast as the day I did a fresh install. The only "slowness" comes from me getting used to the speed. This is just the Linux fanboys grasping at straws because someone on the internet dared to prefer something other than Linux.
@nastysdsi
5 жыл бұрын
In my experience, disk fragmentation is the real problem. If you defrag (which takes some time) regularly just like you did before making this video, then it doesn't really slow down. However, if you don't defrag, it's definitely going to become much slower after installing a few updates and programs. Linux's EXT file system doesn't get fragmented at all (in my experience, at least), so obviously you don't have to do any maintenance to keep it running fast. For defragging Windows, I highly recommend using Auslogics Disk Defrag instead of Windows's built-in defragger, since it's much faster and it has the ability to move system and prefetch files, improving performance quite significantly. It can also delete some junk, so you don't need CCleaner. Of course, SSDs are not affected significantly by fragmentation.
@vwestlife
5 жыл бұрын
Fragmentation is an issue with FAT32, but not so much with NTFS. And of course with SSDs it's irrelevant.
@nastysdsi
5 жыл бұрын
@@vwestlife The other day, I (un)installed and a few programs and Windows updates on a clean install of Windows 7. I noticed it had become much slower already, so I opened Auslogics Disk Defrag and guess what... the fragmentation was over 42%! After the defrag it was fast again. NTFS is very similar to FAT32, except it supports permissions and bigger files (and other things). The actual data is still stored in a very similar way, so it gets fragmented as easily. MFT doesn't seem to help much. Windows schedules a defragmentation every night by default, so if you always leave your computer on you may not notice. By the way, I've also tried checking the fragmentation score on Lubuntu after installing all updates and a few programs, and it was 0, thanks in part to EXT's allocate-on-flush technique, and also because it keeps all blocks in a file close together.
@nastysdsi
5 жыл бұрын
@@vwestlife I've just checked the amount of fragmentation on my laptop's data-only partitions on my HDD (the OSes are on the SSD). Results: - NTFS+BitLocker 147 GiB (13.1 GiB free): 55% - ext4+LUKS 670.74 GiB (24 GiB available): 0 (only 5 files were fragmented) I use the ext4 partition A LOT more than the NTFS one, and I've never defragmented either of them, yet the ext4 partition is almost in perfect condition. While the SSD is not affected significantly by fragmentation, I store most of my data and games on the HDD because it's a lot larger and cheaper, so it still affects performance in general. EDIT: on my main desktop PC, Windows 10's partition (on HDD, 7.26 GiB free, 168 GiB total): 39% fragmented
@vwestlife
5 жыл бұрын
Is that NTFS drive being used with Windows or Linux? Linux is not optimized for working with NTFS drives and will likely cause more fragmentation than comparable use in Windows.
@vwestlife
5 жыл бұрын
I have the auto-defragging turned off because I'm using an SSD in my laptop. Still only 12% fragmented after 5+ years of use.
@FSM_Reviews
5 жыл бұрын
4:11. It would be interesting to what the current installation compares to how it runs after recovering and reinstalling from that recovery partition. EDIT: 4:30. Oh! You are doing that.
@laurijslv
8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Ccleaner and Malwarebytes are my must couple of programms too. And before Windows 10 i was using Comodo Internet security as my only antivirus software. Now, in Windows 10, Windows Defender is working just fine!
@AndrewMackoul
8 жыл бұрын
yay, new video!
@dylanstrine
8 жыл бұрын
ikr
@whydoihavetodothisannoying
6 жыл бұрын
Not installing crap on your computer is a good idea if you want to keep it running fast, also not poking around the system if you have little idea of what you are doing helps. All those naive windows speedup tips and fixes end up causing more harm than good in the long run. Antivirus software is also not very helpful on anything windows 7 and above, arguably a very bad idea on 8 .1 and 10 since windows defender does a better job managing resources than any of the crapy AV software out there now, also causes far fewer issues with third-party software. I had windows 10 running on my main machine ever since it came out and it survived a GPU and motherboard swap as well as upgrading from pro to enterprise without reinstalling or slowdowns, it arguably got faster since they fixed a lot of stuff. Same goes for the Windows 10 workstations we have at work. This isn't something limited to windows either, I got Arch running on my ThinkPad for 4 years straight and it does a fine job as well. Most people tend to reinstall Linux more often, wich is no wonder since a lot of rookies tend to install a lot of superfluous packages because they just " can't live without that one application" that just so happens to need all the libraries of a entirely idfferent window manager to work.
@kenmha
8 жыл бұрын
The dir command does not give an accurate date of installation. On Windows 7, I get a date of: 07/13/2009. I purchased my desktop in 2015 and install the OS on 11/6/2015. Systeminfo gives a precise date when the OS was installed.
@andrewwebb4635
5 жыл бұрын
I really like your logical approach! I see you have cCleaner. I reckon that's the key to keeping it running ok.
@treahblade
5 жыл бұрын
Not really, honestly registry cleaners are kinds stupid and pointless considering that the registery is tiny and has nothing to do with performance. In my professional opinion from doing OS support for 19+ years now they just cause more issues then they solve and they are more of a placebo to make users feel good then acutally useful.
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