Laoshi knows his audience well 😂😂 clicked because of the thumbnail, stayed for the helpful advice
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx
3 жыл бұрын
老帅 (Laoshi) also has a third tone! Waddyaknow!
@teaty3872
3 жыл бұрын
I also clicked because of the thumbnail hahahahahhahahahaha
@natbat69
3 жыл бұрын
plz fr- i just saw wuxian and clicked BAHHAH
@ranyuo977
3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@sayeolamaeve3729
3 жыл бұрын
Nobody here because they saw Wuxian in the thumbnail? Okay.....
@ayi3455
3 жыл бұрын
I sometimes hear Wuxian actors pronouncing words not identical with standard Putonghua. CMIIW.....
@peihongyu
3 жыл бұрын
yeah :)))
@hannacastro3608
3 жыл бұрын
Me me me 🤣 Xiao Zhan forever ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@chenfeiyus
3 жыл бұрын
present !! LMAOO
@hannacastro3608
3 жыл бұрын
@@ayi3455 The untamed was dubbed 🙄. That’s not WuXian (Xiao Zhan) real voice, it was a voice actor 😏
@thelanguagefantastic
3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you chose a clip from the Untamed - as you absolutely should!! I was already learning Chinese, but it was the show that motivated me to enrol in HSK5 classes and continue improving. Thanks for the lesson!
@MzCoruscant
3 жыл бұрын
What is HSK class. I'm a beginner in learning Chinese. Can you please recommend good sites/ place. Thanks.
@sasino
2 жыл бұрын
Also thanks for choosing the first episode, to avoid spoiling it for those who are still watching it :P
@barbaravale14
3 жыл бұрын
I liked this "da da da" method! By the way, I love this drama!
@nicoleraheem1195
3 жыл бұрын
Same
3 жыл бұрын
I love how he teachs and that he uses dramas
@averybie1904
3 жыл бұрын
That's genius, never heard anybody teach this way, making so much sense
@skyib8499
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that I came for the Wei Wuxian clip and ended up finding this incredible key to improve my pronunciation. Definently staying with you
@_anais._.
3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad we Mandarin learners can all come together and appreciate The Untamed on this awesome lesson video 😂😂
@iliana2003
2 жыл бұрын
@Χρυσή Πετρίδου Προσπαθώ κι εγώ να μάθω κινέζικα (μόνη μου), και οι τόνοι είναι τόσο δύσκολοι😭
@iliana2003
2 жыл бұрын
@Χρυσή Πετρίδου Ευχαριστώ πολύ για τη συμβουλή! Θα προσπαθήσω να πείσω τους γονείς μου να ξεκινήσω μαθήματα κινεζικών!
@iliana2003
2 жыл бұрын
@Χρυσή Πετρίδου Δεν έχω discord, αλλά πες μου το user σου για να το έχω σε περίπτωση που φτιάξω:))
@iliana2003
2 жыл бұрын
@Χρυσή Πετρίδου σορρυ αλλά όχι😭 απλώς προσπαθώ να μάθω τους τόνους όσο πιο καλά μπορώ, οπότε βλέπω πολλά βίντεο σχετικά με αυτούς. Νομίζω πώς θα το δω όμως!
@littlecup5695
3 жыл бұрын
Me: This will be very userful... See Wei Wuxian Me: OH MY FUCKI- Quickly Click
@liumahir
3 жыл бұрын
That's revolutionary stuff. I am learning chinese for over 20 years, but I always struggled with the 3rd tone. I would say my pronunciation is fairly good for a foreigner, which does not mean much(compare yourself always to native speskers in terms of pronunciation). I had always the concept of letting the tone drop and than immediately let it rise again in my head. Thank you for your explanation. Your explanation of the 3rd tone should become the standard explanation.
@andik70
3 жыл бұрын
So every book teaches this wrongly. The question though is: whyyyyy? (do they do that). Great vid btw.
@Haylla2008
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't know how many times I've been put off trying to pronounce a word with a third tone because of how unnatural it felt to try to fall and rise all in one letter sound. I think it's maybe taught that way because when it's in the context of the word, it naturally sounds like it falls when you go into the third tone then rises when you come out of it despite the fact that the tone itself is flat. I'm so glad he explained it this way. I don't think I ever would have figured that out on my own (as dense as that sounds).
@qqingtomo4591
3 жыл бұрын
Likely because that's what's first taught to children native to the language (as in, when we're 2-4 first learning to talk). We gradually grow out of it and into what standard pronounciation used commonly. Though even I'm not too clear as to why. In younger years teachers let it slide with a reminder, but as you grow older to pronounce it like that is asking for embarrassment. My guess is it's related to children learn to pronounce the tones with imagery and imagination to , the first tone is flat, so the sound made is flat, the second goes up, your tone rises too, the same concept for the fourth which is written downwards, but not for the third. It goes two directions, so teachers have kids prononce it falling then rising it, and 'combine it'.
@TheHothotheatlive
3 жыл бұрын
@@qqingtomo4591 I'm curious - is that actually how it's taught, say, in China? We all learn Chinese as kids in Singapore and I've never learnt it that way, I just directly learnt it as the single sound that it is
@TheHothotheatlive
3 жыл бұрын
Even though I don't think it's helpful, I actually don't think it's wrong - I just think one reason foreigners have a hard time with this is because in English, you put stress on either the first or second syllable of a 2-syllable word. (English is a stress-timed language, and Chinese is a syllable-timed language.) If you unconsciously emphasise or lengthen "xi-" or "-ang" in "xiang", even to a miniscule degree, you won't get a third tone. Whereas if you do falling-rising while putting equal emphasis or length on the syllables, the whole word "xiang" comes out to an overall third tone. Or if you're just doing the falling-rising on just one syllable/letter, doing it really quickly (and with falling rising in EQUAL measure) does come out to a 3rd tone too!
@qqingtomo4591
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHothotheatlive Oh, I'm Malaysian, and most Chinese I know have experience with our teachers teaching with this method. (Especially when words without any tones, 轻音, exists n most of us couldn't really pronounce the difference) I'm not too sure if it's what's used by other Chinese in other countries though.
@Amy-mf4gd
3 жыл бұрын
Got here because of xiao zhan.. But also loved your video because I am learning Chinese and that too because of xiao zhan and Wang yibo
@charlottepasseron9568
3 жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite things combined : learning Chinese and The Untamed😍🤭
@jayqie
3 жыл бұрын
You are definitely one of the best teachers online! Could you do a lesson how the tones relate to one another. I think for most English speakers we tend to forget that the tone before each tone affects how the next tone is pronounced. For example, if a first tone precedes a second tone, then that means the first tone which is the highest sounding tone dictates where the second tone starts to rise from. That second tone will definitely rise from a high note to an even higher octave because of the first tone. It will sound very different compared to a second tone coming off a third tone
@z_mono4573
3 жыл бұрын
I am a very simple girl, I see Wei Wuxian, I click.
@zxccursedghoul
3 жыл бұрын
Yeeeaaah love this story
@emmabloom1793
3 жыл бұрын
Why am I watching this when I'm a native speaker?😂
@luludu2144
3 жыл бұрын
我甚至还跟着他读了起来👀
@emmabloom1793
3 жыл бұрын
@@luludu2144 哈哈,我也是🤫
@stargazingliz
3 жыл бұрын
same lol
@jules8744
3 жыл бұрын
Wei Wuxian?
@placebo6956
3 жыл бұрын
谢谢老师!I find that this is the tone pattern I have the most trouble with.
@arletvargas634
3 жыл бұрын
Me: didn't realize the untamed thumbnail... Me when I watched the first example: *subscribe*
@matthewheald8964
4 ай бұрын
Third tone is a low falling tone in most cases, falling-rising in isolation. Good explanation.
@ctangtxy6609
3 жыл бұрын
Me: Knows Mandarin very well Also me: click into the video because of its thumbnail 😂 I’m a HUGE fan of The Untamed 😅
@lucyjiang1519
3 жыл бұрын
SAME
@sarwatjehan8275
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@hannacastro3608
3 жыл бұрын
I am fan of Xiao Zhan, only him. ❤️❤️❤️
@littlecup5695
3 жыл бұрын
U are Chinese?
@ctangtxy6609
3 жыл бұрын
@@littlecup5695 Yep 😀
@sabrinarajan
3 жыл бұрын
As a part-time private Mandarin tutor, thank you for putting out this video. 👍🏽 It's so frustrating that books and apps teach something that isn't correct in real life. It also makes the students unnecessarily confused between the second tone and the third tone. 🤦🏽♀️
Your lessons has improved over the years. You guys are becoming more organized. The hard work is appreciated 💜
@harper277
3 жыл бұрын
Have
@sugxrpluum8590
3 жыл бұрын
I am a very simple person. I see MDZS/The Untamed, I click.
@metatronyt
3 жыл бұрын
When you Say that the third tone doesn't usually rise, and It should be a flat low tone, Is that the case also in Beijing? Because all of my teachers were from Beijing, and they would enunciate the third tone a lot more than people from other areas of China. Could It Be a regional thing? Thanks
@Sayurichyan
3 жыл бұрын
even in the regions that would raise the end in 3rd tones, it is usually way way subtler than most learners do, so keeping it flat with a tiny implied but unvoiced raise is usually enough. the problems is usually learners say it in way that is identical to the 2nd tone.
@romansampo
3 жыл бұрын
I learnt my mandarin in Beijing and in my experience the 3rd tone before a 2nd tone isn't quite flat, it is low and falls a bit. You are basically truncating the rising bit. I know in places like singapore the 3rd tone tends to be low and flat though. You really hear the full (low fall+rise) 3rd tone only when it is at the end of intonational phrase.
@audreygao7644
3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm from Beijing, so hopefully I can answer your question. What do you mean by enunciate?
@metatronyt
3 жыл бұрын
@@audreygao7644 I meant to Say that to me It sounds like people from Beijing have stronger and more pronounced tones. I also noticed that Beijingers also strongly pronounce the "ing" "ang" etc
@metatronyt
3 жыл бұрын
@@Sayurichyan I understand, thanks!
@111ena
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t speak or write Chinese, but this is still interesting so im gonna stay :D (also because I saw wei wuxian lol)
@diai557
3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! I KNEW IT! Thank you for explaining!😀
@baizhuwaitingroom7057
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see Wei Wuxian and a Chinese lesson in one thumbnail, I click. I considered studying Chinese even before reading the story because of my friends, but I lacked something that'd keep me obsessed and engaged and give me that necessary push without having to constantly bother others and embarrass myself. And then Chinese web novels and The Untamed blew up lol Also that's a nice explanation, makes it even clearer to understand. Though I still struggle a lot with figuring out the correct pronunciation when there are more than two 3rd tones in a row
@ChineseZeroToHero
3 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/x3uPn3iVm6WAhI4 watch from 1:43
@YamiHW
3 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail made to click on this video, best decision ever ❤️ you have a new subscriber
@JamesYShih
3 жыл бұрын
Had issues with the third tone for years this a great way to put it into context. Thanks!
@darrylkassle361
3 жыл бұрын
This guy is a genuis. The da da system is simple but BRILLIANT!!!!
@333Gypsygirl
3 жыл бұрын
After listening to the Da Da part, I couldn't concentrate any more as I kept imagining the theme tune to Jaws.
@FrayRober
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John! Ten years learning chinese and it I have finally heard third tone is low and flat! You´re an amazing teacher! Thanks a lot!
@samyconpro9430
3 жыл бұрын
Me a simple kid, I see Wei Ying, I CLICK lol
@Amy-mf4gd
3 жыл бұрын
You are doing a great job!! ✨ I hope with your help one day I can have conversation with xiao zhan about him and China and ofcourse.... 🤩
@abcdefg-en6dn
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that I found this useful channel by watching the untamed. I'm a beginner, only in HSK 1 and be keep going ;)
@nhzziara4204
2 жыл бұрын
😍❤wow cool, i always find it hard to pronounced the third tone. Because i usually confused it with the second tone. Thank you very much, this is very helpful🥰❤❤ 多谢
@masterofdizzzaster
3 жыл бұрын
Omg this video is fantastic, thank you so much, im getting back to learning Chinese
@istherelifeon
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the wei wuxian thumbnail...really good advice here!!
@keylavalle-palma6139
3 жыл бұрын
I started learning Mandarin and then came across the Untamed... I'm learning now with an extra motivation boost
@Manabi05
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple woman I saw xiao zhan so I clicked 🤭 But I stayed for your good lesson (+1 subscriber !) It was really helpful to hear the rythm with the DA DA DA methode so thanks !
@siyuul
3 жыл бұрын
i clicked bc of the thumbnail but this video was actually helpful :0
@bethkosiak544
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This is EXACTLY the kind of guidance, repetition and clarification I have been looking for. You are a godsend. Thank you for this superb guidance.
@navamiammu1711
3 жыл бұрын
I'm here because of two reason First one Wei wuxian 2nd reason Yiling patriarch 😄😄
@vrthar
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot Mo Xuanyu ;)
@navamiammu1711
3 жыл бұрын
@@vrthar yeah right 😂😂
@hoshf47
3 жыл бұрын
i was having trouble with the 3rd tone, so this helped a lot!
@maxbello704
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this =) you’re incredibly patient, Chinese is definitely difficult to master
@kakao4423
3 жыл бұрын
Love that the example to learn Chinese is the Untamed👀
@melania3558
3 жыл бұрын
love this so much !! thanks !
@mordecai5225
3 жыл бұрын
Six years of study, thousands of conversations, and only now do i learn how the third tone is actually pronounced lol
@ChineseZeroToHero
3 жыл бұрын
Never trust theories better than your own ears :)
@international_perspective
3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time since since using your 0 to hero course I've found such a pin point accurate lesson on intonation. Of course, it was you that made and posted it :) Thankyou so much for recognizing this common mistake and taking the time to help us correct it! Regards from Gold Coast, Australia.
@charatize
3 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD I THOUGHT I SEE IT WRONG! CHEN QING LING!!!
@klemmichard8916
3 жыл бұрын
It took me a year in China and 10 years of linguistics behind to really get it. Thanks for confirming it.
@roseliosilvasilva9629
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bro! It helped me a lot.
@D4rkLigHtLP
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much! This "da da da" helps a lot when practicing tones! :)
@uundermyfeet5544
3 жыл бұрын
I subscribed lol- Thank god I was lured by wei wuxian here- Nice bait- But me taking the bait was worth it
@keylavalle-palma6139
3 жыл бұрын
You're dope! You're the best! Using Wei Ying to teach us this. Thanks!
@SG-of6nq
3 жыл бұрын
I took chinese phonetics in Nankai university, and the third tone is not a flat tone. It does rise, and native speakers make it rise as well.
That’s very much for this video! Very helpful, I’m positive I’ve been saying 3rd tone wrong in some situations
@meostyles
3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on intonation? (not tones)- I've found it's never mentioned in books that Mandarin actually has a lot of different intonation, like tones getting softer towards the end of a sentence.
@olenakoshman
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for being so helpful!
@СофьияШахназарова
3 жыл бұрын
OMG!! It's magic!! Thank you so much!!!!!!
@Piestonight
3 жыл бұрын
No idea why this is in my recommended, but really interesting video and you have a really relaxing voice!
never thought about the third not rising that lol after speaking to myself for a bit i realised and 2 in a row i guess i never picked up on this being a thing lmao (im a native speaker)
@MagicCritical
3 жыл бұрын
i don't know if KZitem recommended this video because of The Untamed or because i study chinese but i will subscribe because in any case i'm winning 😂❤️ i love how you explained it! it makes me realize the differences between the tones when there's many of them, thanks a lot!
@francisliang4512
3 жыл бұрын
天天看别人教中国人英语,第一次见教外国人中文的哈哈哈
@FDE-fw1hd
3 жыл бұрын
In terms of pronounciation i thunk my problem lies at like my vowels. Cuz there's so many ways to pronounce a vowel, it's hard for anyone to explain it. Not in my tones.
@kori228
3 жыл бұрын
ikr, there's 2 completely different yet exceptable pronounciations of "yun"/"qun"/"jun"
@FDE-fw1hd
3 жыл бұрын
@@kori228 I meant like, it's hreally hard to explain pronunciation of a a vowel because a could mean anything and it's different for like a lot of languages and those languages have multiple pronunciations.
@kori228
3 жыл бұрын
@@FDE-fw1hd which is why something called the "IPA" (International Phonetic Alphabet) exists, created by Linguists to describe almost all human language sounds without running into issues with different languages pronouncing something differently. It's not perfect, but it's very good at specifying vowel/consonant quality within a certain margin. For example, the 2 different pronunciations of "yun" are [jyn] and [ɥin]. (IPA is notated by surrounding with brackets [] or slashes //). [j] is a "y" sound, formally a palatal glide/approximant). [y] is pinyin ü, formally a high front rounded vowel ([i] with rounded lips) [n] is just regular "n", formally an alveolar nasal [ɥ] is a [j] with rounded lips, formally a labialized palatal glide/approximant [i] is English "ee", like need, formally a high front unrounded vowel.
@tgg4266
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I clicked because I saw Xiao Zhan and stayed because THE THIRD TONE DOESN'T RISE AT THE END???
@soberlust
3 жыл бұрын
wei wuxian omg
@ayi3455
3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that only about 400 millions Chinese speak and pronounce Putonghua correctly according to standard.... CMIIW... I sometimes hear Wuxian actors pronounce words not precisely the same as standard Putonghua... Thankyou....
@hannacastro3608
3 жыл бұрын
That’s not Wei WuXian’s(Xiao Zhan) real voice, it was the voice of voice actor. 🙄
@richardhartung1576
3 жыл бұрын
i truly love this pronunciation guides. Merci
@richardhartung1576
3 жыл бұрын
I want to get the Ultimate Bundle~ may i get an coupon ? :P Lovely greetings from Germany
@michael0830
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson!!! Using the DA syllable really works wonders!!!
@klararosengren5314
3 жыл бұрын
Huh... This was fun :D don't know if I wanna learn Chinese but I enjoyed it!
@ZacharyAlexanderGoh
3 жыл бұрын
You’re joking. I’m not good at Chinese but I was actually taught that the third tone is a falling-rising one in school (learnt it for 11 years in school). I’m in disbelief.
@cassandra2968
3 жыл бұрын
You have helped me out so much with this tone!! The 3rd tone is the reason why I always skipped learning Mandarin :(
@romakhajiev9535
3 жыл бұрын
We really appreciate the hardwork you are doing
@xxkq0
3 жыл бұрын
It’s simpler than this. The sound of the 3rd tone is dependant on the tone after it. The first example has the 2nd tone, low-high after it, so you get the mid-low part of the 3rd tone but the low-high part of the 3rd tone is left out. If it’s followed by another 3rd tone, you get the low-high part but the mid-low part is cut out. And if it’s followed by a 5th (no) tone, essentially the tone pattern spreads over the two syllables: mid-low-high spreads over 胆子 for example.
@ChineseZeroToHero
3 жыл бұрын
AH! Cool, never thought of it that way!
@ChineseZeroToHero
3 жыл бұрын
The chemistry of tones
@TheHothotheatlive
3 жыл бұрын
Yes but this doesn't apply in Taiwan, Singapore and Southern China, where the 3rd tone stays as the 3rd tone no matter what :)
@ChineseZeroToHero
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHothotheatlive Yeah i noticed that
@yxjl
3 жыл бұрын
This might be useful: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Chinese_phonology#Tone_sandhi
@julioliarts
3 жыл бұрын
I have literally 0 experience with chinese but this was very interesting and seeing the untamed thumbnail interested me Thank you for sharing this!
@debralyn10
3 жыл бұрын
I'm here cuz of the thumbnail
@foxxielane2196
3 жыл бұрын
哎唷,一直以来说着说着顺了,您没指出来还真没发现到啊!谢谢老师
@nandinimisra2002
3 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why they say you need plastic surgery in your tongue to pronounce chinese words.
@simonm8221
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic fantastic explanation ! Perfect to practice along. I found such clarity only in classes at 北语速成学院 (BLCU intensive college) and nowhere else. Thank you
@Nesggy
2 жыл бұрын
First video I saw from you. I will subscribe and get back to learning Mandarin!! Thank you very much for your videos
@debralyn10
3 жыл бұрын
The untamed 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@miaaa8156
3 жыл бұрын
This is literally the most helpful thing ive ever seen thank you
@hannacastro3608
3 жыл бұрын
I saw Xiao Zhan photo I clicked on the video as fast as I can 🤣. I am one of Xiao Zhan’s international fans, from Sweden 🇸🇪. Xiao Zhan forever ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@anythingcute
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I will try to correct myslef. 2:26. Remind me of the Jaws.. da da..da..da..
@carmcarm8230
3 жыл бұрын
Great topic, thanks
@jaemin02
3 жыл бұрын
not at me clicking on the video because of WuXian even though one of my first languages is Mandarin🤣
@AshinAsia
3 жыл бұрын
Great film. I' also working on my -ao and -iao, and lots of examples here! thanks laoshi
@WordbellLanguanges
3 жыл бұрын
I missed your channel. Happy to meet this again. 👍
@fernandagarcia8304
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not even learning Chinese but clic on the video
@loryndabenson2118
3 жыл бұрын
I'm still confused but I'm gonna keep trying 😭
@charmaine_8.30
3 жыл бұрын
ahhhhh...I love your lesson..!! I want to learn mandarin because of this drama! Thank you sir.
@suminrui5063
3 жыл бұрын
The main reason I watched dis was bcs of the untamed thumbnail
@olegshabarov1509
3 жыл бұрын
Good job! Excellent material and very clear explanation! give you "like" with pleasure.
@sinfuldavy0
3 жыл бұрын
You could’ve added English subtitles under the pinyin if you are speaking in English
@eli-du9jr
3 жыл бұрын
wow im so glad that i have found this video!! i think studying with my favourite dramas might be a nice motivation for me 🥰
@fwzjjjkfcv
3 жыл бұрын
Omg xiao zhan
@a.g.4843
3 жыл бұрын
Now I am in the mood to go a little danzi
@FByrde
3 жыл бұрын
Well, heck. That's two entire years of University I've been doing this wrong. 🤯
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