I am a distributor of Dogtra products in Spain. Europe has been impatiently awaiting the arrival of the Pathfinder 2 for almost a year and it is predicted to arrive at last next month (January). I am anxious to add it to my inventory and offer it throughout Spain and Portugal, but I am worried that I will know much less than I should about it, so I have been watching all the videos I can find. This video is the best one I have seen on the subject because it discusses the plusses and minuses in plain language that any English speaker should be able to understand. It's a great introductory course in Pathfinder 2. Thank you for your time and dedication to helping us all, Dave.
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Bruce, I really appreciate that. Overall it's a very good system. We now have more than 400 miles (650 km) recorded on the collar. It's been very reliable for me. There are things about the app I wish were better but new releases may help. Mostly with the small text on the compass screen, there's just a lot of phone screen area unused and could be bigger and easier to read. The function button is great and a missing feature of the old system. I will say the latest firmware software update didn't improve the speed calculations, they are way off. Distance traveled and tracks are very accurate but speed calculations are 3x off. Not very important to me but strange. Battery life is exceptional, have never run out of power and its performance in the thick woods is way better than I was expecting. Open field is of course just as good. Great value overall. Thanks for watching! Great to here from someone in Spain.
@DogtraUSA
2 жыл бұрын
Great in depth review. Yes, the E-fence is a great new feature. To any user reading here is the 411 on the NEW E-Fence: USER CAN SET MINIMUM 1 FENCE 1,000 YARDS SIZE MINIMUM. DOG APPROACHES BOUNDARY=1 TIME VIBRATE + ALERT. DOG LEAVES BOUNDARY =1 TIME 5 SECOND STIMULATION + ALERT. DOG RETURNS= ALERT ONLY NO STIM. IF DOG KEEPS GOING OUTSIDE BOUNDARY NO ADDITIONAL STIM WILL BE APPLIED. We posted the full tutorial on our channel as well of how all the fences work.
@UnderFortyYards
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback and the details on the e-fence that is very helpful!
@moosespack5434
2 жыл бұрын
So any made fence cant be less than 1000 yards?
@UnderFortyYards
2 жыл бұрын
@@moosespack5434 That's correct. 1000 square yards is about 0.21 acres so it covers most small housing lots.
@sockeatinggolden8316
Жыл бұрын
You can route the GPS antenna through the buckles to keep it from distracting the dogs.
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
Good tip!
@alexmacksey4510
Жыл бұрын
Have great experience with the original pathfinder collar and my GSPs. Thinking I’m going to upgrade to the 2
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
I have very few complaints about the system. We put on 300 dog miles on the hunting season and 600+ overall since I've owned it. There are things that need improvement but it's been solid. I'll probably do a follow up video soon.
@stefanodavineola
2 жыл бұрын
Great review Dave. Well done. Dogtra is a brand also sold in Italy. They have been used for years especially for tracking dogs that stray a lot. Buona giornata! Ciao!
@UnderFortyYards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stefano, I think it's a good collar. Looking forward to seeing Sawyer's movements. That's neat it's also in Italy!
@BrokeBoyOutdoorstv
2 ай бұрын
What is the yellow line on the map? Is that tracking you? How does that work?
@UnderFortyYards
2 ай бұрын
Yes, the yellow line is me, both dog and handler are tracked on the system. All GPS data is being digested by the app on the phone. The dog data is coming from the GPS collar to the connector, then to the phone app. GPS data for handler is coming from the phone. Phone service is not required, but GPS location on the phone is required to capture the handler's location.
@119topdawg
Ай бұрын
have you used it with an watch yet? Excellent review by the way.
@UnderFortyYards
Ай бұрын
@@119topdawg Yes I use it with a Samsung Galaxy Watch4 and Watch5 (Wear OS). Works great. Also works on Apple Watch a friend runs. I'll probably put a watch video together. The watch to me is what makes the system complete and the most usable.
@119topdawg
Ай бұрын
@@UnderFortyYards I should have watched your one year review and i would have seen that you had gotten a watch. Thanks for the reply!
@phillips321
Жыл бұрын
Can you disable the bright green flashing on the collar? I do a lot of dawn and dusk deer stalking so would not be able to have a flashing light drawing attention to the dog.
@brianfletcher319
2 жыл бұрын
Good looking dog
@UnderFortyYards
2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@media6969
3 ай бұрын
How does the Dogtra Pathfinder 2 compare to the SpotOn?
@bcprins
Жыл бұрын
Question - How do you access tone, vibrate, or nick from the handheld unit? It looks like the unit has one button that can do one of these things based on settings in the app. What if you need to QUICKLY go from tone to vibrate to nick? This appears to require going to the app and changing the handheld device button settings. What if you need to react quickly in the field to correct a dog that is running away? Seems complicated. Thanks for any feedback!
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
Short answer is you can't. The single button activates the last ecollar function you used. It's a deficiency in that regard. It's certainly a better GPS collar than a training collar but it does have full training collar functions. I typically only use tone while hunting but I have pulled my phone to make nick commands while hunting, certainly not as easy as a dedicated handheld. But for the value at less than 1/2 the cost of the other systems, I'm very happy with it. My dog now has more than 400 miles on the collar.
@bcprins
Жыл бұрын
@@UnderFortyYards Much appreciate your answer to my question. Very helpful!
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
@@bcprins forgot to mention you can control the collar 100% via the app. Nick, tone, constant and vibrate all have separate buttons on the app screen. You just need to use the phone which isn't as nice as a dedicated control. Then the last function you used is active on the handheld. It's a great collar, battery life is endless it seems. If considering to buy you can use code UFY5 on Dogtra.com for a 5% discount. Thanks.
@retepts
5 ай бұрын
Can you adjust the nick level from the hand held device or do you have to change it from the app?
@UnderFortyYards
5 ай бұрын
Only from the app. The button just activates the last used function on the app. Good question.
@cristianfabianzunigabermud5998
2 жыл бұрын
How practical is the collar for hunting in very thick mountains where the dog cannot move easily, it is very risky or its design allows it to be used in any type of terrain and vegetation, be it trees or small and very thick bushes and thorny bearing in mind that the receiving antenna should not be secured around the collar so as not to lose coverage; If the dog has to go through rivers or swim, is there a problem? thank you very much for your reply
@UnderFortyYards
2 жыл бұрын
The range of the collar to you will be reduced in thick cover and mountains. The 9 mile (14km) range is line of sight. I haven't given it a full season in the thick woods yet, but the small woods and bushes have not been a problem for me yet. Reception can also depend on how high you place the handheld antenna on yourself, higher is better. It is 100% waterproof. My dog has swam with the collar many times now.
@brianfletcher319
2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t had a problem with my pathfinder at all in 3 years my dogs run snowshoe hares in areas thicker than a 70s bush no problems in water either the only issue I have is snow and ice buildup on the collar witch doesn’t affect its signal. The garmin is a great system as well
@media6969
3 ай бұрын
@@brianfletcher319Nice! Which Garmin?
@ericschneeberger9589
2 жыл бұрын
Does this work without cell coverage?
@UnderFortyYards
2 жыл бұрын
Yes it does. You can download the satelite maps for offline use if you know where you will be hunting. If you don't have the maps downloaded then it will simply show the dog in relation to you or your Truck if you mark it. Even in this mode, without the satellite images it's just as useful to me. The satellite images just enhance the use.
@ericschneeberger9589
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't watch enough before asking. Thanks for the demo.
@UnderFortyYards
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericschneeberger9589 No problem, it's a good system. Use code UFY5 for 5% off on dogtra.com if you decide to buy one (shameless plug). I wasn't a field rep when I made this video, but I've been impressed with the value.
@ericschneeberger9589
Жыл бұрын
@@UnderFortyYards Thanks for the coupon code. I ended up buying one and so far so good. My dog is deaf and I didn't want to lose her, this is why I got one. I haven't tried it in the Grouse woods yet only in the pheasant fields. I find the popups annoying, so I turned them off. The only one I would like is if she was more than X yards away. (30 in my case) They don't have that feature that I can tell. The pop-up I was always getting is my dog is running, true she is hunting. lol (Spaniel Flushing dog) I find it a little inconvenient looking at my phone all the time I think I'm going to have to get an apple watch to sync to it. That seems more convenient. Or get some kind of phone lanyard. Thanks again.
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
@@ericschneeberger9589 thanks for using the code, much appreciated! The pop-ups are very annoying, sometimes selecting "do not show again" doesn't work when connecting the collar and handheld to the phone, agreed. Maybe you figured it out but you can select to set things to off. Menu >Settings > Notifications Preset > Select Custom and you can turn off all the status' Running, Treeing, Pointing, Bark, Hog. I run a bell most time and it sets the dog to "barking" because of it. I don't get notified but the status shows this if I look. Yes looking at the phone is a draw back of this system. I'm an Android guy so I've been using the Samsung Watch4 and the watch is really the best way. I don't know about the Apple watch but my relationship with the Samsung is sort of love/hate at this point. The app works fine, the watch seems to do flaky things like move other apps on top of it while in use. I also spent 10 days in the grouse woods with the system and it worked flawlessly as far as accuracy goes, it was very surprising. I didn't expect it to be so accurate and led me right to the dog on point after point on woodcock and grouse (that would hold)
@kiryani41
10 ай бұрын
Is it possible to make sure that a sound notification about the pointer comes not only to the phone but also to the remote control?
@UnderFortyYards
10 ай бұрын
No, the remote control is the phone app. The handheld device is only a basic connector. I also use a smart watch and the notification can come that way as well.
@kiryani41
10 ай бұрын
@@UnderFortyYards For some reason, when the phone is in standby mode, notifications come without sound. you need to keep your phone turned off at all times
@UnderFortyYards
10 ай бұрын
@@kiryani41 I've heard that problem on iPhone. I run Android and Samsung Watch and it works with the phone screen on or off. A few people have noted the iPhone problem. Normally I put the phone in my pocket, screen off and it runs. Notifications work either way, watch notifications work as well. I'm trying to get some answers from Dogtra on the iPhone app problem. I've also used an old cheap Android phone and it works great on that. Might be an option. Since you don't need cell service it's an inexpensive way.
@kiryani41
10 ай бұрын
@@UnderFortyYards Thank you for the answer. I will keep this information in mind. this is true! I have an iPhone
@armandoveloz5644
Жыл бұрын
So you still happy with the whole setup. Do you run a watch now or still the second phone.
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
Yes overall it worked really well this past season. We've got about 500 dog miles on the collar now. I do run a Samsung Galaxy Watch4 with the system now which is more convenient than the phone. I will say it's a love/hate relationship with that watch, maybe the Watch5 is better and I'm sure the apple watch is better. Not really a Dogtra problem, the watch app has been pretty good. There are things I don't like about the phone app but they are few and for the value I don't think you can beat this system. After this video Dogtra reached out to me to offer a discount code of UFY5 on dogtra.com if you want to save a little money. There's also a new mini version of this collar for smaller dogs.
@armandoveloz5644
Жыл бұрын
@@UnderFortyYardsthanks for the reply. Can both phone and watch be run together when out hunting tracking. Much appreciated
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
@@armandoveloz5644 Yes they can. I mainly use the watch for general direction & distance to the dog, phone if I need more details. Most times while I hunt I don't need the phone at all. Use the hard button for tone/recall. Works nice.
@single_cam9199
10 ай бұрын
Is this thing compatible with garmen tac watch
@UnderFortyYards
10 ай бұрын
No it's only compatible with Apple Watch and Wear OS watches like Samsung Watch 4, 5, 6.
@vFAITHv87
2 жыл бұрын
I would not recommend this. Buy a Garmin. Can't update firmware without app crashing on additional collar.. is saying my second dog is 6k miles away.. wtf
@UnderFortyYards
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't had that experience, firmware updates have went smoothly for me. I would reach out to Dogtra support www.dogtra.com/support The Garmin is a great system as well, but it's 2.5x more expensive than the PF2 and plenty of folks that experience technical problems like any of these systems.
@NepTune-rb4xb
Жыл бұрын
Is there any pathfinder 2 MINI ?
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
I believe it's planned to be released this spring but don't qoute me on it.
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
I see the Pathfinder 2 mini is on the website now. Use code UFY5 for a 5% discount if you buy. www.dogtra.com/products/tracking-and-training
@49Hawkster
Жыл бұрын
You should test the collar with an EMF tester , might explain why the dog is acting funny as stated.
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
It was the long antenna whipping around, lasted about the fist hour then he was used to it.
@49Hawkster
Жыл бұрын
@@UnderFortyYards Get an EMF tester and get a reading off of the collar. The antenna wasn't a factor with my dog, he was acting peculiar so I put a basic trainer on and he was fine. Put this one on and he started acting different again, switched back and it was back to normal. It was to obvious, that's when I grabbed an EMF tester. It's going back tomorrow with video, pics and a EMF tester.
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
@@49Hawkster What was the EMR reading? I've now got 1 year with the collar with no trouble. 600+ dog miles on it.
@49Hawkster
Жыл бұрын
@@UnderFortyYards EMF tester An electromagnetic field test measures the amount of electric, magnetic, and electromagnetic exposure a product emits to its users, including static, extremely low frequency and radio frequency fields. There are different regulatory limits for occupational and general public exposure. Quality varies but even a cheap one can give you an idea if its good or bad. Older cell phones use to be real bad until they started sealing the cases, long story short, there's a reason why they wanted you to use ear pieces instead of putting the phone to your head and not keep them pressed close to the skin when carrying. Appears with this economy these days things are slipping under the wire and regulating and enforcing non toxic levels of electromagnetic field radiation cant keep up. If the collar is leaking as bad as mine it would be like sticking you dog's head in a microwave. If they could only speak:) Technology is amazing but be aware about what you can't see.
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
@@49Hawkster This has me curious to look closer at this. Although I have not seen anything like you're describing, each dog is different. I'm going to get an emf tester to see for myself. I don't see how a collar like this could ever produce EMF readings that an 1100W microwave oven could. Thanks for the input.
@stevemulligan2138
Жыл бұрын
Junk. Buy a Garmin, they last for years. They'll blame you and your phone when it doesn't work
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
You can buy a Garmin or a nice shotgun for the money. Or 2 pathfinders for the less than 1 Garmin. I know plenty of people with plenty of problems with Garmin systems, see it all the time. No system is perfect but I've got more than 600 dog miles on this PF2 with no trouble yet.
@stevemulligan2138
Жыл бұрын
I've had 4 junk dogtra pathfinder 2 in 4 months. Sent two that quit working the third use and customer service said they were aware.of certain lot numbers that stopped working. The third one wouldn't take a charge after 2 weeks. Now the fourth one stopped working after update. Told it's my new 5g phone that's outdated. So I need to buy a new phone for every update. Was told by dogtra to use iPhone, guess what, it doesn't work either. I haven't heard any complaints on Garmin but many on pathfinder 2
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
@@stevemulligan2138 I would agree that's not good, have not heard anything close to that myself. I've used it with new and old Android phones with no trouble. I've only had some trouble with the Galaxy Watch but that's not a Dogtra problem.
@stevemulligan2138
Жыл бұрын
I'm happy for you but yeah, I'm not having a good experience
@UnderFortyYards
Жыл бұрын
@@stevemulligan2138 That is a shame, I would do the same as you. Certainly some quality control problems in the batch you've got. 4 units is ridiculous. Good to hear the Garmin unit is working well.
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