Timmy calling himself "naturally assertive" is one of the funniest jokes I've ever heard. Dude's one of the most passive personalities in the whole of Apex comp lmao
@walker3551
3 күн бұрын
😂
@kiloDelta-wo6gm
3 күн бұрын
I think he’s type A and very polite so struggles with being assertive. He’s not the most passive but really non confrontational
@hagridOG
3 күн бұрын
legit lol
@meteorjuice4088
3 күн бұрын
In good faith I can see Timmy being honest if he’s using the word correctly, he has no issues expressing his thoughts and feelings if he needs something done. The difference is his default in conveying it isn’t as aggressive or attention grabbing and he’s learning to do that. Most Apex players you’d consider “assertive” sound like controlled tantrums to be honest
@jupiterapollo4985
2 күн бұрын
@@meteorjuice4088 No he's just passive. he constantly gets talked over in groups, and communicates in a way in which it seems like he's overthinking his thoughts to not offend anyone. From what I've seen he also seems to have quite a hard time with confrontation.
@ggcrunchyz
3 күн бұрын
You got an ex igl, a player that was igled by the best igl and a newish igl playing together. It’s going to take time for them to understand their own roles.
@estfatul744
3 күн бұрын
it really shouldnt lmao
@jervi2391
3 күн бұрын
Best igl? 😂😂😂 . Noway you think zero is the best igl . Or maybe I'm misunderstanding and you not talking about zero. Hal not igl anymore. But hal is the best. He has the credentials to hack that up. Winning more than anyone even in other random teams he wins. But I understand if you just like zero. I respect your opinion. Not a fact. Just a opinion but I respect it.
@JohnSmith-zk3kd
3 күн бұрын
@@jervi2391 Zero and Hal are both the best IGLs stat wise and opinion wise by most other pros and people who play the game.
@connorflegal9575
3 күн бұрын
@@jervi2391 Zero and Hal were equally good igls, been watching apex forever and that is THE FACT
@mightypensword
3 күн бұрын
@@jervi2391 Didn't Hal say he thought Zero was the best IGL?
@humansnotbots-y8l
3 күн бұрын
I know we all gave Hal a lot of shit for his igl style back in the day but he did a couple things that actually worked really well. I remember times in tournaments when he would just straight up ask the boys to generate ideas with him in a moment, whether it was a rotate or another play, and there were also times he’d just tell everyone to shut up so he could think! If Timmy can find a different way to do that I’m sure things will work a lot better
@TheTopStarz
3 күн бұрын
Exactly, a lot of casual players love to criticise Hal's IGL-ing but it actually worked really well, making him top 3 IGLs in the game since it started, arguably number 1 when it comes to producing results
@tomhack4318
3 күн бұрын
Nobody criticizes Hal's IGLing. What is to be criticized is his attitude towards his mates. And we are not talking about "Shut up" - thats common talk. We talk about "Gimme shield, you stupid bitch!" - excuse me, what?! 😅 You can be succesful and still relatively chill, look at Hakis. Whenever it seems that some IGL who is not constantly yelling (and by the way still succesful currently) has some issues within his team, there is always a comment pointing out "they did Hal bad". No, "they" did not. Hal is maybe the best IGL ever, but with one of the worst attitudes, same as Zero. You can be direct and tell people to do this and shut up - but you dont need to insult.
@humansnotbots-y8l
3 күн бұрын
@@tomhack4318 I agree!
@calebnothin67
2 күн бұрын
@@tomhack4318if you choose falcons and tsm and mad at hal that’s really your fault. You shouldve thought about that before joining. Hal is a very cool guy with a great personality
@richardlee5412
2 күн бұрын
@@tomhack4318 I agree hal can improve his wording absolutely. But if you're a pro player, it doesn't mean you have to be an insecure little bitch just because you heard the word "stupid" or "bitch" without using a "please and thank you". Hal doesn't have to say "mean words" (lol), but his teammates don't need to mentally collapse because their precious little feelings got hurt XD. Spilled milk is spilled milk at the end of the day, I think it's a little shortsighted to ask one of the greatest IGL's in the game (we've agreed hal is one of the great IGLs) to fix what in essence ain't broke. You can always try to be more polite - but when emotions get tense at the HIGHEST level of competition, you also don't have to take it personally.
@gregzurita7955
3 күн бұрын
I noticed this in a previous gameplay video. Gen was calling plays and making them as he was comming, it lead to gen wasting catalyst ult cause Timmy didn't wanna engage. Gen needs to wait until Timmy makes the call.
@mimiftp
3 күн бұрын
I agree, but Timmy isn't as assertive as he needs to be. Gen did lose them a game when he was solo'd but ran away and into another team. Idk what blgs game it was.
@Mikoru-
3 күн бұрын
@@mimiftp you gotta understand, being assertive comes with experience and confidence in one’s own field. Ex: throw an introvert into a room of extroverts, the introvert would struggle with being assertive until they “get comfortable/confident”. Maybe a bad example, but, you get the gist. Sorry really tired atm.
@justrhaze7072
3 күн бұрын
@@mimiftpTimmy doesn’t need to be *that* assertive. If He’s the IGL, Gen needs to follow, not do his own thing and get the entire team penalized for it. Timmy says no, it’s a no. unless gen can convince him otherwise to make an informed decision based on the facts in front of gen, that he relays back to Timmy.
@jupiterapollo4985
3 күн бұрын
@@Mikoru- It comes with experience and confidence, but a huge part of it is also a personality trait. Timmy doesn't really have a assertive type of personality and maybe he can get used to the igl style and make better comms, but he's just a very passive individual. Hence the reason these huge personalities like Dezign or Gen have a hard time hearing him or paying attention. They should listen to him anyway because he's the igl, but when your igl squeaks in the mic or sounds unsure of himself it's gonna cause some problems.
@hagridOG
3 күн бұрын
one of the most rational and well articulated of all time
@rym7174
3 күн бұрын
Timmy hasn't articulated anything properly in his entire life. Listening to him trying to form sentences is comparable to nails on a chalkboard board
@mattm7426
3 күн бұрын
That's sarcasm right???
@Maliek-h3h
3 күн бұрын
Gen is my favorite apex player but I got to admit he definitely does say kinda talk more than he listens in an aspect
@TheTopStarz
3 күн бұрын
true true
@OrangeSoda1432
2 күн бұрын
If you leave one team because of problems with the igl and then you join another team and you’re having problems again, you’re the problem.
@casualdel
3 күн бұрын
It’s worth noting quite a few times these past scrims where dezignful got killed trying to save the other two during a rez or bad spot. Timmy calls frag heavy which can put back line in bad spots. I hope dezign haters recognize this.
@tristan6066
3 күн бұрын
Idk i've been watching a lot this past week, and dezign gets caught out a good bit. Much less "trying to save the other 2". Usually it's him claiming they need to fight for space that the others don't think they need or him getting beamed out of position doing god knows what (ig scouting or smth)
@tristan6066
3 күн бұрын
part of it is that i dont think he's comfortable on the characters he's playing currently
@211Mik3
2 күн бұрын
facts bro. I been watching and timmy be trying to push shit they don't need too.. I remember watching a game gen was telling timmy they have god spot and to chill. what does timmy do? crack one and starts screaming to ape and he got knocked. and another team pushes in and kills design and gen... like if he listens to gen who said they had god spot and there was another team there they win.
@TheTopStarz
3 күн бұрын
I'm hearing mixed info about Dezign, he either is comming too much or is not comming enough 😂 which one is it ? but I think the best solution forward is to let Dezign co-igl and let Gen give less input and focus on beaming people as he usually does but right now, like Timmy said they're both giving too much input
@frappexd_2959
3 күн бұрын
I think he’s talking about the situation at the bridge where design was counter calling a lot but design has gotten better and not being as angry toward shit
@TheTopStarz
3 күн бұрын
@@frappexd_2959 ohh yeah I know that situation but I’d say the phrase ‘counter calling’ doesn’t fit that situation, to me it sounded like he didn’t want them making a reckless play that’ll cost them the game because he knew they were in the winning position, because it did sound like Timmy could drop down to get his finish cost the game since he had already fell off the bridge a minute before, Dezign was mainly saying let them fight below and kill each other and they’ll come finish whoever is left
@christianalbarran6544
2 күн бұрын
Not only that but also venting to his chat which most hate dezign and comparing him to enemy and others like what good does that do all of haters are just going to shit on dezign and say drop him
@KalexVII
3 күн бұрын
Damn bro someone get timmy a noise gate
@LauritsTTCampen
2 күн бұрын
He needs the CEO aura, Hal has gathered through years of being toxic xD
@ngnl_irisoul
2 күн бұрын
This shit is crazy for timmy tbh Dezign - HIs Ex-igl and honestly a pgood one when it comes to lan finals Gen - Played with both the top 2 IGLs of all time
@urbanops9882
3 күн бұрын
Didn’t waltzy say the same thing about Timmy?
@Cheddarchini
3 күн бұрын
Before every game talk with the team. What do we want what's our goal this game? Once your in game igl calls plays. After the game ends and between matches take input and consideration from your teammates and implicate what you think is valuable in the next game. Rinse and repeat.
@ShockinglyAverageApex
2 күн бұрын
Timmy will likely never flourish as a solo igl, especially with this team. Design will never give up the reigns bc he's convinced that he knows whats best in the moment, you can't control somebody like that
@Seatrilla
3 күн бұрын
Timmy when you tell them to be quiet say it with your chest!
@guppy90rl81
2 күн бұрын
Design not making teams angry challenge (impossible)
@dylanlittle8033
3 күн бұрын
They all have flaws atm Timmy had thrown away games by being way over aggressive and not listening to basic game play, Gen has probably some of the best game awareness in the scene , I think giving him co igl with zones would be cracked and let Timmy call fights, let design chill and anchor This team could be great ngl
@caivibe2575
3 күн бұрын
Agreed Timmy and gen worked well bouncing off each other.
@B4ND1TT_
2 күн бұрын
They should listen to him and show that pushing everything is not the play
@badassmexican9479
2 күн бұрын
Finally people will see why Hal and zero were like that . Against good players you have to be assertive because they also have ego and think their play is better
@shanebuske3311
2 күн бұрын
Dam is this Waltzy
@JustDeacon
3 күн бұрын
We always knew it wouldn't work. Standard Gen.
@Hoseki09
3 күн бұрын
standard gen? Gen stayed with his teammates for years. Standard dezign you mean.
@BaneIsAlive
2 күн бұрын
I dont think its clear on who is the IGL of the team, it seems like they all think theyre capable of IGL'ing hence undermining Timmy in a way. Its either Timmy earns the respect or demands it, at this point i think he has to demand it as its a little too late in the year. The 3 best IGLs wouldnt take the shit Timmy is going through with the counter calls and acting on call without Timmys final call.
@lagunacinematics
2 күн бұрын
Apex esport comms seem so unorganized and argumentative compared to other esports. Im very curious as to whether a team eventually will ever create a fluid and efficient comm system.
@goliathsauce7919
3 күн бұрын
Imo i think dezign should be co-igl with the macro and rotations and timmy solo igl in micro decisions and calling all the fights, also dezign needs to play closer to timmy or genburten because he always dies first no matter what situation. All and all i think this squad has all the potential in world to do extremely well
@Raja-it8en
3 күн бұрын
imagine he picked up phony instead of gen or let design igl they're cooked
@fateaglio
2 күн бұрын
Design igl'ed his last team no? And they didn't even make lan
@Raja-it8en
2 күн бұрын
@@fateaglio desizn igled previous team before that and finished top 5 top 8 every lan before that Why desizn has champs spot because they finished 7th last lan ?? So just because he didn't make 1 lan doesn't mean he can't igl What timmy had done to Deserve IGL ???
@fateaglio
2 күн бұрын
@@Raja-it8en And who was on the teams before that? Timmy. When he is without Timmy he doesnt even qualify...
@fateaglio
2 күн бұрын
and top 5-8 is not that great
@Raja-it8en
2 күн бұрын
@@fateaglio Guarantees a champs spot and 50k each player Question is timmy why should timmy igl if he has proven nothing ??
@mattm7426
3 күн бұрын
So obvious that Enemy should replace dezign
@heksatek3407
2 күн бұрын
cant, hes on COL
@wildeyshere_paulkersey853
2 күн бұрын
What, so he can troll another finals?
@adriandahlstedt
2 күн бұрын
@@wildeyshere_paulkersey853Digis are gone, he will be fine
@mattyuste8518
3 күн бұрын
Drop design pickup Hal
@jupiterapollo4985
3 күн бұрын
Hal would never join a team like this with a untested Igl 😂
@malerightsusa
3 күн бұрын
@@jupiterapollo4985they better than falcons and hal can always IGL himself.
@mattm7426
3 күн бұрын
Or enemy
@LON3WOLFMcQuade
3 күн бұрын
All teams are like that. You need your people to be confident. This is leadership problem with every team and y Hal was successful. Hal says shut the fuck up and do this now. While everyone is calling. A IGL is leader a leader means more then single file. You have to know what you need and what to ignore then make the call that brings success and what your team can handle
@chickenliver1000-r3i
3 күн бұрын
These guys are ganna do good calling it. They all got something to prove now thats ganna be dangerous for everyone else
@mk33n3y
3 күн бұрын
Having 2 IGLs will cause all sorts of problems. You either co or respect the 2nd IGL. If you want your own way then designful needs dropped. He'll always have that igl blood which is fine. But he needs his own team.
@JognDasHerbNA
2 күн бұрын
Everyone just wants to be leader. They can lead their own team
@kudohlol9379
2 күн бұрын
One track one mind. Unified Line >>>> 3 Chiefs with different ideas.
@luismiguel7640
3 күн бұрын
Sorry. Its not gonna work. Timmy is venting with the world and not having real human talks with his team. Those issues should be talked between them 3. All the fans need to see is performance not the soap opera! Timmy need to grow some balls.
@komalthecoolk
3 күн бұрын
He's afraid to lose his team for the games
@wibes6043
3 күн бұрын
Are you a fucking moron? You really think they haven't talked about these things? Not everything needs to be on stream my guy, "timmy is venting to the world" lmao, he is answering a question from the chat when someone asked about his thoughts on their performance. The "i didn't see it so it for sure didn't happen" is one of the stupidest things you could have written about the situation and you managed to do it, congrats.
@Arithmeticspidershoelace
3 күн бұрын
They’ve probably talked about it as a team prior to this
@ImPacTMaSTer1
2 күн бұрын
Youre an idiot
@ChazzyPhizzle1
2 күн бұрын
Timmy is the opposite of assertive. If he wants to be IGL he needs to learn how to be or at least let that side out.
@plz_no_shootz2013
2 күн бұрын
How can anyone here make comments about dezign comming or not when he’s always dead 😂. Dude needs to go
@jacobsalcido5891
3 күн бұрын
Its crazy how many randoms that don't use mics in ranked and than say or don't wanna play on the guy making calls!! Me And yeah my boy Mando throws out his opinion and we die. Love Tim is a p.i.m.p
@tomhack4318
3 күн бұрын
Just because someone doesnt use a mic but you do, doesnt mean you are you making the right calls.
@qnecromancer7066
2 күн бұрын
Timmy actually has thr most deadpan boring voice ive ever heard. No wonder the others talk over him
@nikobobich9726
3 күн бұрын
this younger generation is a mess and the apex pro scene is a joke no loyalty and way to much confusion
@michaeldonnelly7256
2 күн бұрын
There's no reason for Design or Gen to be listening to Timmy. Timmy is not an IGL, and he's way to much of a passive liberal to lead
@carlosgutierrez6431
2 күн бұрын
🥱😴
@flatkingwest7553
3 күн бұрын
Zero isn’t the best Igl when u win what tsm have with Hal back to back to back win to take championship didn’t crumble that’s the best igl
@ChaoticMuchX
2 күн бұрын
Ironically when Hal was asked who is the best IGL in apex, he said zero is a better IGL than him. That's why he choose to join falcons and let zero IGL. You would think someone like Hal who has great game sense and leadership would know which player is best to follow orders from and he chose Zero to be that guy. It speak volumes
@flatkingwest7553
2 күн бұрын
@@ChaoticMuchX well not many people have noticed but watch back all of darkzero lan tourneys and falcons which isn’t many they crumble when they don’t have the luck of zone pull Hal made it work! Hal’s record speaks for itself and tbh they should of had 3 lans back to back to back if that horizon q never was griefed there way!
@flatkingwest7553
2 күн бұрын
@@ChaoticMuchX but also it’s my opinion everyone is entitled to theirs
@nexxusty
2 күн бұрын
Timmy won't do well at this. Sorry bro, you aint an IGL.
@carlosgutierrez6431
2 күн бұрын
Yapper
@user-wl4xr8lb1e
2 күн бұрын
Timmy is so passive aggressive lol his comms are horrible and this team will explode.
@maintank785
3 күн бұрын
Timmy follows Hasan? L
@ryanclark9386
2 күн бұрын
Dezign is being a douche go figure
@illrhymes25
2 күн бұрын
they need to drop dezignful hes just not good anymore
@1234epps
3 күн бұрын
The elephant is the room you already tried to cut loose from design now your stuck back with him he sucks I’m sorry he’s not good
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