I made a part 2 to this video if anyone's interested kzitem.info/news/bejne/yKN40Hxre2WUgpw
@Noah-jb9om
3 жыл бұрын
Sean is a 17-year-old kid and Dom has been racing his whole life and is declared the best street racer in the world in the movies. Dom definitely won he has more experience and much better knowledge and control of his car. "It's not the ride, it's the rider."
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point Dom has been racing for longer so he does have more driving experience. However, Sean learned to drift in a matter of months. He went from crashing into everything to defeating the Drift King in less than a year. He's even been quoted to be a fast learner. Plus Sean has more experience in drifting than Dom does and he has more experience with the track they're on as well. Also technically speaking the ride does matter. It's the combination of car and driver.
@Noah-jb9om
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 Dom has proved that the ride doesn’t matter in the beginning of Fast 8. You need the skill and knowledge of how the car controls and dom has much more of that. And to think dom doesn’t know how to drift would be careless with all his experience of cars.
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@Noah-jb9om Dom didn't really prove the ride doesn't matter. He literally took the car apart to make it lighter and Letty brought him a substitute for NOS so he could go faster. If the ride didn't matter then Dom wouldn't have to do any of that. I would say Sean has slightly more skill with controlling his car considering he beat the Drift King, who was basically the King of car control. You're arguing that racing longer means you're going to win, which having more experience is an advantage in itself, it doesn't guarantee victory. If it always did guarantee victory then Sean shouldn't have been able to beat the original DK cause the original DK had way more driving experience than Sean did. Also, I never said Dom couldn't drift, just that Sean was better at it.
@adityasajan8697
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 you dont make any sense during street races skill matters but when the opponents upgrade their cars it forces others to upgrade their cars .more over dom has more experience than sean and dom really doesnt focus on drifting ,in fact learning to do drifting in a year is just okay nothing special and doesnt mean he is a fast learner neccesarilly, sean could have won but that doesnt mean hes better at drifting than dom.
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@adityasajan8697 could you please explain how I don't make sense? When have I said that skill doesn't matter? Skill does matter, but so does the car, they both matter. The comment that was made earlier was that the car doesn't matter, and I was pointing out the flaw with that logic. In terms of overall driving experience Dom has more, I never denied that. However, in terms of drifting, we see Sean have more experience in that field. Could you please tell me why learning to drift in a year isn't anything special? And even if learning to drift isn't special, learning to drift and then defeating the King of Drift would be considered something pretty special. I came to the conclusion that Sean is a better drifter than Dom because he's the Drift King and has shown more experience in drifting than Dom.
@The_D0C70R
2 жыл бұрын
I think Sean won. If he couldn't win by skill, Dom let him win.
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
maybe
@svtologist
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. But maybe
@ethanrad3656
3 жыл бұрын
Theres no way that boat beat that s15 in that small garage if were being real.
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
hahaha yeah lol, check out part 2 it basically says what you're saying
@ethanrad3656
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 yessir i saw part 2 🙌 just speaking for the people that legitimately think Dom won
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanrad3656 yeah realistically Dom shouldn't be able to win, but it's fast & furious so anything is possible lol
@ethanrad3656
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 oh yeah 100% lmao I personally am a big fan of seans character and it wouldn't make sense for him to lose especially as "drift king"
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanrad3656 I agree. I imagine the race was pretty evenly matched but I can't really see Sean losing this after just becoming the Drift King.
@ArmandDark09
2 жыл бұрын
1: Dom can be the faster you want but this game is about sliding 2: you can see that Sean took the lead at the start which means that the only thing he has to do is block Dom's car in the first straight part of the parking lot and then just keep drifring while Dom tries to slide with all of that power under the hood without killing somebody 3: Sean was driving on the right side of the track and I remember that the first corner was a turn to the right, that means Sean had an advantage beacuse he was taking the corner first 4: Dom wasn't just the loser, I think he also never completed the race because I clearly remember that the access to the top of the parking lot was like a loop were Takashi's Nissan 350 Z barely fits, a damn Plymouth Road Runner would just stuck in there if somehow Dom fits a car that has the size of a boat in that tight access to the roof. Japan is a very different culture and you will almost never see a muscle in the daily life. Almost everyone in Japan has a small car which means small parking lots. 5: this one can happen but I don't see to point of building a story of the guy who turned into the drift king just to make him lose his first defense of the title 6: It can't be a tie since the first one to take the last loop to the top will be automatically the winner no matter what 7: if Dom takes the lead and stuck his car in the first loop it doesn't means he won, that is like a no contest since neither him nor Sean made it to the top 8: we all know they always try to make Dom invincible and indestructible but real life is way more different
@TruePlatform
2 жыл бұрын
Everything you stated was perfectly on point. 👌
@reshi1037
2 жыл бұрын
And its still f&f so logic doesnt work very good
@ArmandDark09
2 жыл бұрын
@@reshi1037 back in 2005 Fast and Furious was still about fast cars and not rocketship Pontiac Fieros
@jahglizzy9218
2 жыл бұрын
Only thing I can think of for dom winning is if he takes the lead and he doesn’t drift that tight ass strip to get to the top
@blazypoo1723
Жыл бұрын
@@ArmandDark09 Lol, F&F logic would have Dom absolutely smashing his car through the barriers like they're foam with his car being pretty much unscratched to win the race.
@tristanmireles8994
2 жыл бұрын
I think Dom due to plot there no way Sean in real life would’ve lost he literally got so good in the matter or months and Dom has never mentioned him knowing how to drift
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you completely
@ML-sc3pt
2 жыл бұрын
Dom doesn't mention a lot of things he can do until he does it. We didn't know he could fight in the favelas until he did. And they said in the movie that he was smoking everyone in Asia in this type of race
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@ML-sc3pt we kinda knew Dom could fight since the first movie, and I don't doubt Dom learned how to drift, but Dom's more of a drag racer than a drifter and we don't see him drift too often to actually tell how good he is at it
@koreyninyette5496
2 жыл бұрын
Dom can drift watching he's video he can drive and drift trust me
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@koreyninyette5496 I agree he can probably drift, but not nearly as well as Brian, Han or Sean could. Remember the scene in Fast Five where they're trying beat the cameras around a narrow garage space? They had a Charger already but they went to get other cars like a Porsche GT3, 370Z, Subaru WRX, and a Supra. All cars which are much more agile and quicker around a tight race course. And during the time they were testing cars Dom never tried the course himself and the Charger was never used on that course either. Brian, Han, and Gisele had the best attempts at the course, and as we know in Tokyo Drift Han taught Sean and Sean eventually surpassed Han in drifting
@djnavarro3212
2 жыл бұрын
Well as Brian said in Fast 6, “We improvise alright.” So I think that’s what Dom did during the race, he improvised so that he could win.
@WI-FI_GOD
2 жыл бұрын
Basically he drove the ceiling got on top of the car and kick flipped it into the finish line and at the end said it’s about family
@leejee88
3 жыл бұрын
Idc how good of a driver dom is ,no way he's gunna win in a parking garage with that road runner/satellite
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
yeah if the track was bigger and it was more a regular street race he would have a better chance at winning
@leejee88
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 in a straight away dom would of beat him .sean even said to dom " this ain't no 10 second race" so even sean knew dom drifting in that garage was just unrealistic how come dom didn't know that ?
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@leejee88 well those lines were said before they decided to make a bunch of movies before the events of Tokyo Drift so I don't think they knew about Dom eventually being good at more than just drag racing. But yeah Dom would win in a straight up drag race
@ML-sc3pt
2 жыл бұрын
@@leejee88 they also say he was smoking everyone in Asia in these races. So clearly he can drift in it. I think you guys are selectively listening
@ML-sc3pt
2 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 read comment above
@Dabeatbee
9 ай бұрын
There’s no way Dom drifted up that last spiral part without getting his car stuck lmao Sean definitely had to win 😂😂
@walmartpimp2
8 ай бұрын
For real, I love Dom as a character, but can’t stand his taste in cars. Homeboy’s a millionaire and can easily afford a Viper GTS or Ford GT or ZR1 but decides to drive some MOPAR relic from the 70’s that can turn for shit, give me a break.
@kylematchinis7751
6 ай бұрын
@@walmartpimp2bro. American muscle are by far the best looking cars in the world. Lmfaooooo go to any car show and i mean ANY car show in the entire world and every single person would agree with what i just said buddy. The fact that you even made that statement shows that u have absolutely awful taste in cars.
@kylematchinis7751
6 ай бұрын
@@walmartpimp2oh and btw i should inform u that i never look at my replies to comments so u can respond if you want but ill literally never see it or respond to it, so you would just be screaming into the void if you reply to either of my comments. Which is what literal insane people do. So if you wanna yell at a wall like a mental patient, then be my guest and respond to my comments. As i said tho ill literally never see it or reply to it.....see the beauty in what i just did there is 2 fold, cuz either 1 you reply and i win because u just literally yelled at a brick wall after you were told that nobody will hear you. Or 2 you actually dont reply, which just proves that the only reason you'd try to reply in the first place would be to solicit a reaction from me. Either way i win. So that would bring the score to 2-0 me. 1 win because im objectively correct about American muscle. So you i gain a point right there cuz of how wildy incorrect you are, and then 2 because no matter what your next move is, i still win. Now go cry and jerk off with your own tears loser
@user-nz8st1ph6r
5 ай бұрын
@@walmartpimp2someone with sense
@PahEz
4 ай бұрын
@@walmartpimp2 you just named one of the worst options ever LOL. ford gt and viper? You gotta be trolling I wouldn't even buy one for 100 $
@Rude_Boi
9 ай бұрын
Of course Dom won. The dude has some of the greatest plot armor in fiction.
@9unslin9er
2 жыл бұрын
Nobody faster than Dom cuz he has the power of Family.
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
damn you right
@TheLondonForever00
3 ай бұрын
Brian was better than Dom
@9unslin9er
3 ай бұрын
@@TheLondonForever00 He never had Dom. He never had his car.
@dranzergigs8333
2 жыл бұрын
The final turn to the top of the building is very narrow. Not to mention you have to drift your way up there. The evo barely fitted on that road. Theres no way that road runner can fit into that turn while drifting.
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
If Dom were to get there first he'd just block it so nobody could go up the ramp, then nobody would win lol
@blazypoo1723
Жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 Nah, Dom smashes through the side walls like they are foam and his car barely being scratched because it's about family.
@ricksanchez8177
2 жыл бұрын
Dom is easily the best driver and could easily beat Sean but I think he genuinely let Sean win so he wouldn’t embarrass him
@brotund8724
2 жыл бұрын
I think Sean won because Dom let him win. Just like how he did with Brian. Because Sean is DK and losing would mean him losing respect. I'm also sure he knew Dom let him win.
@MrRop-yp3wt
2 жыл бұрын
Dom can't drift dude plus he was just as unfamiliar with the road like Sean was a first
@brotund8724
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrRop-yp3wt Dom is Family he knows every road because he lives his life a quarter mile at a time. It ain't about the car, it's the driver. It don't matter if you win an inch or a mile winning is winning. And who says American muscle can't drift. Never turn your back on Family.
@vik3365
Жыл бұрын
If people say Dom had a boat, then he was just cruising. he wasn't the type to dive head first, especially around cars. Always knew his craft. His legendary status is built on the fact that he never lost a race, always left his opponents admiring his tail-lights. He could never throw that away, not even to let a kid keep his pride, the only favor he offered was a baby gift to Bryan in the cop cars race. Dom won, but made sure he kept it a close race, for Sean's Pride.
@stelmax5059
3 жыл бұрын
Sean is the Same As Paul, but other people, he is king of drift būt he cant beat Dom 😁
@skydavini5869
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with that totally
@chadesterhuizen8648
3 жыл бұрын
Dom definitely win that race
@MlDN1GHT
2 жыл бұрын
Brian beat dom in a fair and square equal race once in fast and furious 6
@averymcdudu3842
2 жыл бұрын
I would think it was a tie just because dom is more experienced but not at drifting but Sean is the drift king so it’s a even match up
@ML-sc3pt
2 жыл бұрын
@@MlDN1GHT you mean the baby present?
@mrmanthe3rd272
Жыл бұрын
Dude no way in hell dom beat Sean especially with a boat like that and Sean has more experience in drifting and knows the track better
@hnks6862
3 жыл бұрын
Ppl hear are so damn the answer is simple. Sean won. Hes the mc of Tokyo drift, based on that logic hes guaranteed the win plus hes far too calm if he did loose etc etc....
@RonnyyyyAU
3 жыл бұрын
They literally revealed Dom won the race in Fast 7 so idk what your going on about
@hnks6862
3 жыл бұрын
@@RonnyyyyAU oh nvm den
@MaximilanRiver
3 жыл бұрын
@@RonnyyyyAU no they didnt, what re u talking about ? sean only said dom is fast
@dohsdf8625
2 жыл бұрын
@@RonnyyyyAU cap
@morablaze486
2 жыл бұрын
@@MaximilanRiver let’s be honest here. No way in a hell a Plymouth is gonna beat a Silvia, a Japanese car that’s designed for good handling and corners. Plymouths are speed demons in a straight line but their handling like any other muscle car? Awful. People really believe due to Dom’s plot armor that his overpowered V8 Plymouth would be able to beat a drift car in a PARKING LOT GARAGE.
@brunomenezesoliveira8831
2 жыл бұрын
see how sean is parked first ? this could very well mean that sean got to the parking space before dom and parked. sean finished before dom and then directed him to a place to mark. idk if you follow my logic, but it could be something
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
never really thought about it, but I'd think either way Sean would direct them to where they would park since he knows the location when dom doesn't
@VeyselSarayVSA
2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved Dom, but there's no way Dom can win this race. This man is not a god. No matter how experienced he is, the winner of this race is Sean. ( The reason is very simple, if the dom had won, Sean's drift kingdom wouldn't have been a thing. Even if Dom had the potential to win, he would never have won this race out of respect. )
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
makes sense to me
@InsideExecutive
2 жыл бұрын
Not a god. Are you crazy dude punch a fucking car door clean off the hinges. Survive multiple accidents that would've put people in a coffin. All of sudden Dom being a street racer can compete with trained professionals and professional contract killers. No offence but Roman was right about that in Fast 6
@yanatsoy8506
21 күн бұрын
Is this an extended scene? Where can I watch this? Please
@anthonyjames8049
2 жыл бұрын
If Paul was there, there will be no other king
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
haha Brian in the R34 would fit well with the rest of the JDM cars
@mikeg9322
3 жыл бұрын
Dom won, its literally in the tokyo drift IMDB trivia list. The speculation is kinda pointless. But, if it turns out to be retconned, sean is in F9 so we'd find out there i imagine, if they change it
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
sorry but nowhere in the IMDB trivia list does it state that, at least I haven't been able to find it after reading each one. Maybe you can link it or something, 'cause it's not in the IMDB trivia list. But yeah I agree it might be stated in F9, hopefully
@mikeg9322
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 I took a screenshot, but if you google "imdb who won sean or dom" it was the first thing that popped up for me. imgur.com/gallery/8YmPlFT
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeg9322 ok thanks for the link I found it now. It still doesn't really confirm that Dom won though, it says the movie reveals who won but the scene in reference is the one in this video and it never states who won. So it still seems up to interpretation, but like you said before that might be answered in F9. I could be wrong, I would've prefered to actually see the race happen, too bad we waited almost 10 years for the race and they just skip it lol
@mikeg9322
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 agreed, i was under the impression that the imdb trivia was pulled from the movie crew. But id like a definitive answer as well
@its_regular_stupid2212
5 ай бұрын
It's logical to conclude that Sean would win because he recently became the Drift King. Therefore, his title would only lose value and would be watered down if he lost that race especially in Tokyo.
@stancenation4912
3 жыл бұрын
I agree because a roadrunner is a long ass heavy car and they go up in circles and I don’t think the roadrunner would fit especially if it’s sideways so I think Sean won but it was close
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
that's what I think, at least in a realistic sense
@DjStiv3
2 жыл бұрын
It dont matter.. most likely dom whooped him right off the bat roght off the line. Not only did he win but thats probably why Shawn says hes fast. So he took off on shawn for one and once out front.. all he had to do was slowly drift and keep shawn at a distance. Shawn wouldnt have been able to out maneuver him and his boat of a car. Dom fuggin won. Uploader is dumb bro.
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@DjStiv3 Well if we look at the start of the race from the end of tokyo drift Sean actually gets the lead first right off the line. But yeah in terms of f&f logic Dom would win no matter what because family lol
@ML-sc3pt
2 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 or because as the other guy said, he could just block all the corners with his boat. Not some family meme nonsense. Dom was smoking everyone in Asia so he easily had as much experience if not more drifting. But please keep selectively listening and ignoring that key line
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@ML-sc3pt As we see from the first parking lot race in the movie there are clearly more open sections of the track, but I guess you ignored that race. And if we wanted to say that Dom's car could just block the whole track technically the driver who got in front first could just block the track too as we see Sean got in front first, but it's pretty strongly implied that the track is open enough for people to race in, but I guess that was ignored as well. And please keep selectively picking the things from one part of one specific culture from one country out of the entirety of other countries in Asia. Apparently, you've never heard of wangan in Japan. And from all the movies leading up to F7 we never see Dom in Asia other than in Tokyo which he wasn't there for long meaning it's a plot hole. But please keep selectively ignoring other movies in the franchise in favor of one line
@osirismockingjay72
2 жыл бұрын
I mean we all saw him drifting the charger in the ending of fast 7 when the parking lot was coming down
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
Umm when? He was outrunning the building collapsing but never drifting, he went around 2 corners without drifting but that's it. Plus the parking garage in F7 had way more open space for drifting compared to the one we see in Tokyo Drift
@osirismockingjay72
2 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 dam💀 that's the closest we've ever seen of him tho
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@osirismockingjay72 yeah, would be nice if the closest thing we see is the actual race though lol. Also I don't doubt that Dom could probably drift in that parking garage it's just not realistic, but fast and furious ya know lol
@osirismockingjay72
2 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 yea
@yanatsoy8506
21 күн бұрын
Don is the undefeated heavyweight car champion he still stands and he let the kid win
@gettinjcob4206
2 жыл бұрын
sean might have a better drifting skills, knows location, and more agile car. but Dom has family theres nothing better than that
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
you got a good point there lol
@StaticBlaster
8 ай бұрын
It’s unfortunate that the race between Sean and Dominic wasn’t showcased. Incorporating an additional scene could have served as an exciting teaser for fans eagerly anticipating the next installment of the series.
@sundaydriver2117
8 ай бұрын
fr like wtf this series started with street racing and they just skipped over it so bs
@StaticBlaster
8 ай бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 yep it is bs. I just rewatched this last night. Now i need to see and rewatch the fourth one all the way up to 9 so i can watch Fast X on peacock.
@sundaydriver2117
8 ай бұрын
@@StaticBlaster everything after the 6th movie is non canon to me. 6th movie ended on the best note imo. the 7th movie couldve been good but they went from serious action to goofy action and then they didnt even conclude tokyo drift with the main characters like we didnt just wait 10 years for a proper conclusion like im fr mad bout it lol
@StaticBlaster
8 ай бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 Paul’s sudden passing really threw a wrench in the works. If he’d been around, they probably would’ve tied up all the loose ends, even the stuff that went down in Tokyo.
@sundaydriver2117
8 ай бұрын
@@StaticBlaster not sure thats true i heard when he passed they were basically almost done with the movie and they only needed a few more scenes
@Dieselman432
9 ай бұрын
So they gave him the grand National (lightweight, closer to the ground MUCH smaller) at the beginning of fast and furious 4 when he’s doing a heist on a huge open open road but when he’s in a super narrow space made for smaller cars he’s in 1970 roadrunner😂😂😂😂😂
@kruemel534
3 жыл бұрын
that s15 is perfection
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
i agree completely
@tesstickle7267
5 ай бұрын
To be fair my little 1293cc classic mini would leave that tank in the dust,in that environment. It can't drift though, either grip or understeer.
@sundaydriver2117
5 ай бұрын
doms car has to be built like the hoonicorn or something to stand a chance lmao
@dakshsharma6514
3 жыл бұрын
Dom has beaten all the racers in Asia so how Sean was even able to beat him apart he knew the route but dom has those races also about which he didn't knew the route
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying Dom couldn't win soley based on him not knowing the route. I'm saying that because Sean/DK is more familiar with the track he's going to have an advatage. This alone doesn't mean he's going to beat Dom but it is something to take into account when comparing 2 drivers. This also wasn't the only claim I made that shifted the results in Sean's/DK's favor as Sean/DK also has a car more built for the track as well as more drifting experince which allows him to use the track to his advatage. That's the reasoning I used to conclude the winner
@skydavini5869
3 жыл бұрын
Remember don know all of the racing circle around the world too .in what kind of cars they are driving and he knows everything about the different makes and model of every car don has study. The art of many different kinds of races also
@skydavini5869
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe but sean knew where the location and area was .but don knew everything about sean in the first place also don know how to drive in many different aspects of all racing and all types and makes of model s of cars watch all the movies think about it and the holla back at me 😎😎😎
@cheludiu9241
3 жыл бұрын
@Daksh Sharma U are a super idiot
@dakshsharma6514
3 жыл бұрын
@@cheludiu9241 not more than you buddy
@aaronvector4750
Жыл бұрын
Bro wtf you said EVERYTHING I was thinking WORD FOR WORD!
@sundaydriver2117
Жыл бұрын
I can read minds
@watup1043
Жыл бұрын
Han said you were fast but not that damn fast…. So literally he’s saying u slow I still won 🔥
@rawbearclaw
2 ай бұрын
How about a mini movie of Dom going through Japan winning these drift races
@sundaydriver2117
2 ай бұрын
ye it dont make sense cause dom went to japan for 3 days but it tokyo drift he was beat ppl all across asia like how tf. it would also be nice if we saw the race between dom and sean
@rawbearclaw
2 ай бұрын
@sundaydriver2117 great boring answer
@sundaydriver2117
2 ай бұрын
@@rawbearclaw huh?
@Injectedracing
3 жыл бұрын
“Han said you were fast but not that damn fast”. Coming from a street racer that’s nothing I would say to someone I just beat. That means I got smoked. “Who says American muscle can’t drift?” Once again, if Dom lost he would have definitely complimented Sean back for beating him, that didn’t happen. It’s extremely clear who won. Extremely and it is that simple. Sean drifted for a few months and became drift king by winning a big race. Does that mean he’s anywhere near Dom’s league? Apparently not or it wouldn’t have just been Sean praising Dom, then Dom bragging about being able to drift American muscle. Sean praised Dom, not the other way. Dom praised his own performance, not Sean’s. Dom won and it’s not even debatable
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
Based on fast & furious logic yeah dom probably won the race, check out part 2 it makes the argument for why dom would win. Based on real-life though Sean would win and that's the argument this video is making is for the reasons sean would win the race. You say it's extremely clear who won, but I think if it was the movie would've just said who won the race like sean saying something like "I can't believe you beat me" instead of giving implications as to who won with the dialogue we have. So it seems to me like it was made to be debated on. You can take their dialogue to mean 1 of 2 things, the first being what you said is that it implies dom won or the second being what this video is about, suggesting that it was just sean complimenting dom. I think if sean won the dialogue would've meant that sean was impressed that dom managed to give him a really good race when his car would've put him at a disadvantage and that's why dom replies with “Who says American muscle can’t drift?” I've beaten people in races and said similar things to them as well so the dialogue can be taken either way, but I do agree that it's more likely dom won based on f&f logic lol. Based on f&f logic dom wins 80% of the time, irl logic Sean wins 70-80% of the time If you believe it's not debatable then that's fine with me, you can think what you want. I think it is debatable which is why I made a video for both sides of the argument.
@Injectedracing
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 IRL Sean wins? What do you mean irl? Are you just basing this on their choice of drift cars? The movies are fantasy so it’s hard to convert it to real life. But if it was RL Dom is the best driver, better than Han. Han was better than Sean. If they were equal, Sean had the superior drift machine but nothing IRL or fantasy would leave anyone to think Sean is a superior driver. Dom is the best driver in the series and does ridiculous job hints with a car that are basically impossible. That alone says he would probably win. I just don’t understand this “IRL” unless it’s purely based on choice of cars
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@Injectedracing according to what you're saying aren't all movies technically fantasy then since they're just movies? The movie is based around cars, something that is very real, so why is it hard to convert that to real life? I understand that movies can sometimes overexaggerate things or do things that should be impossible, but I'm pretty sure for the most part Tokyo Drift is pretty realistic. No offense to you or anything, you're allowed your own opinion, but it sounds more like you're just scrounging for arguments rather than actually making a valid point. At least in terms of that point, you just made. There's a lot of fictional movies with realistic qualities. So yes I'm gonna convert a mostly realistic movie to real life, IDK what's so hard about that lol In terms of overall driving skill, yeah I'd say Dom>Han>Sean. In terms of drifting though Sean>Han>Dom. The race itself is based on drifting, on a track that's been used more by the guy who drifts more in a car that's better suited for drifting. IRL you can be the greatest drag racer in the world that doesn't mean you can win a drift race. Dom's experience is mostly drag racing in very big and heavy unagile cars. You can be the best painter in the world, doesn't mean you can beat the King of sculptures. This really nothing hard to get about this IRL stuff. I honestly don't know how to explain it any better to you. One person is the drift king and the other has beaten most drivers in the street racing world through either a drag race or a sprint race. Sean has more skill than Dom does in drifting, the race is made for drifting, sean practices on this track regularly, his car is better suited for the track and drifting. Honestly idk how this doesn't connect for you. IRL Sean wins, in movie Dom wins. Some of the racing games I play my friend is really good at sprint and circuit racing, but I beat him most of the time in drifting racing. Why, because we're better at different things despite both being good drivers. There's really nothing hard to get about this. It seems at this point you're just arguing for the sake of it. I mean I literally agreed with you Dom won in terms of F&F logic lol
@myk3al1
2 жыл бұрын
sean won end of story full stop
@thewannabemartialartist4613
2 жыл бұрын
@@myk3al1 no Dom won cause nothing can beat family
@myk3al1
2 жыл бұрын
people under estimating seans driving ability just because he's 17, in under a year he mastered drift racing and beat a dk, who's been drifting all his life, and beat him well mind you on a narrow mountain track he had no knowledge about wich favoured dk, not gonna say sean wins easily but in the end would win due to knowledge, experience he has already
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
i agree with that logic completely
@jahglizzy9218
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair dk wasnt racing to win he straight up was trying to kill sean
@lonesurvivor699
2 жыл бұрын
damn man thats some hell of a story
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
lol
@markevans1618
3 жыл бұрын
Ppl say he is talking casually but in my opinion he sounds and looks pretty upset lol he isn't raging but definitely not a happy camper
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
you mean Sean or Dom? Idk the conversation seems pretty casual to me. If either of them are upset I'd say it's cause Han just died and they want to find the guy who killed him
@markevans1618
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 Yea I thought about the situation with Han. I personally believe either Dom let him win and Sean knows it or Dom won but didn't exactly brag to everyone's face about it so Sean could've been way more cool about it (still very upset tho). Dom is the type to earn the DK title and only those who witnessed it would know. Because of the timing of the conversation Sean could've already been over the fact he lost and his demeanor is more indicative of Han's death and nothing to do with the race itself. Ofc no matter who won I will always cri to sleep until they decide to reveal the truth
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@markevans1618 I think it's something people would talk about, they mention Dom wins a lot of races in Asia so even if they're minor races Dom seems famous enough to be remembered there, at least that's what it seems like to me. I cried when I watched F7 and they didn't show the race and tokyo drift was only like 2 minutes long
@MattiK2609
11 ай бұрын
0:30 HOOOOOOOOOLYYYYYYYYYYYYY CRAP, that engine sound..... 😍😍😍😍😍
@danielsmals668
3 жыл бұрын
People talking abt location well dom says Tokyo is his home so and there's so much more to think dom won off the first start of the next movie
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
I don't remember when Dom ever said Tokyo was his home, could you link me the scene when that happens? Also what other reasons do you think Dom won? I'd say it's anywhere between 50%-65% chance Sean won and 35%-50% chance that Dom won considering the advantages each one of them has.
@danielsmals668
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 man i looked for like 10 min but maybe I got a place confused with Tokyo either way I think dom won ive seen all of the movies but never can remmber it all 😂
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielsmals668 no worries. I'm not saying Dom couldn't have won the race, it just seems more likely Sean won, he has more advantages under these circumstances.
@karagoddess3328
5 ай бұрын
Your points win the logical argument but as we've seen, Fast and Furious never uses logic in their story telling. VIn definitely won here and Sean was relegated to a minor character moving forward.
@tarik1697
2 жыл бұрын
Dom won from Han. Who thaught Sean how to drift. And I think it’s safe to say that Han was defenitely a better racer than Sean. And for Dom to say he won from Han so casually, I think he beat Sean easily. But he is the best racer on the streets, so can’t blame Sean.
@user-df5is8jy6n
11 ай бұрын
I don't think Han do drifts until he arrived in tokyo. He can drift, but doesn't use it when he still with Dom.
@VillaluzMarvinRacer112
3 жыл бұрын
yea sean lost to old dk before and i think dom did the same thing that sean did when he didnt know the location and turns while sean known the corners so its possible he won
@antijohnpro5356
3 жыл бұрын
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.
@2LilMurph1
7 ай бұрын
Dom won he got that plot armor. 😂 lol Sean got about as much plot armor as Brian in the other movies but they still lose.
@Ese1Pac
3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense and all... but this is the series where Dom beat both The Rock and Jason Statham. No way Sean won lmao
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
Check out part 2 lol
@magneto25
11 ай бұрын
Dom stopped 10’ short of the finish line and Sean beat him. Dom tells Sean, sometimes you gotta lose to win. Interested in a “job”?
@eriksramek8139
2 жыл бұрын
I think that Dom loses only when he want to lose. (Fast 5 he wanted to five that money to Paul Mia and their kid)
@solace8622
2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be better if they tied. That was Sean is still DK but Dom didn't lose
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
It's not really possible to tie but it's something fast and furious would probably do if they wanted to lol
@modifiedspirit6892
3 жыл бұрын
That s15 looks badass
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
yes very cool
@modifiedspirit6892
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 which car will you choose s15 silvia or the Plymouth roadrunner?
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@modifiedspirit6892 i prefer the Silvia, but the Roadrunner is still pretty hot as well
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
I did this video about my favorite F&F cars kzitem.info/news/bejne/mGaJuIapi2Ona6A
@MrRop-yp3wt
2 жыл бұрын
I think dom lost too, coz drifting is a different thing than just being fast
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
true that
@ML-sc3pt
2 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 however dom was slaying everyone in Asia according to the film right before the race
@dewolx7411
2 жыл бұрын
Who said he doesn't know how to drift? Twinkie reveals Dom has been beating everyone in Asia and even this clip reveals that he knows how to drift.
@CastroRSA
Жыл бұрын
This is Fast & The Furious. Dominic won...the moment his head shined and made the camera auto correct the aperture to hashtag "Nothing's stronger than family". Period. Some peanut butter might spill but every single movie was rigged for this man to win....or escape haha
@sundaydriver2117
Жыл бұрын
word
@unexplainedhistory3135
2 жыл бұрын
[DOM IS FIRST MAN TO GO UP AND START...,,,AND HE USUALLY IS THE BEST RIDER OF DOUBLE ENGINE....AND HE HAS A UNIQUE STYLE OF DRIVING❤️WE LOVE U DOM[ AND [PAUL WALKER RIP]👈😭
@josephtorres585
2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!!! I totally agree
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
thanks dude, glad you agree
@littledarkx1256
2 жыл бұрын
Probably Dom because he got Family
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
Damn I was hoping nobody would notice that, but yeah 100% Dom cause of family lol
@s.stan007
Жыл бұрын
Y'all are actually delusional If you think realistically Dom would've won the race. The car alone is not fit for that parking space. And we've never seen Dom pull of this kind of driving up until this point. So I call BULLSHIT.
@chickenman6177
3 жыл бұрын
Sean won
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
I agree in, realistic terms at least
@SharpShoot3r_14
9 ай бұрын
There's no way that Plymouth has taken this corners! Dom is a great racer, but l think Sean has this one!
@edwin9210
2 жыл бұрын
How the hell can he drift that big ass Plymouth in that restricted parking lot? Is he so good that he can bend the car by pressing some kind of pedal?
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
family, the answer is family lol
@motorsportsenthusiast23
2 жыл бұрын
Umm.. Sean became the DK with an american muscle. So dom actually didnt have any disadvantage with that Roadrunner. Obviosuly dom won
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
The muscle car Sean drove had a Nissan Skyline GTR R34 RB26 engine in it, which is also what's in the Silvia S15. Also the Mustang he drove was much smaller in comparison to the Roadrunner
@motorsportsenthusiast23
2 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 that is a good perspective
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@motorsportsenthusiast23 thank you
@chozen9544
2 жыл бұрын
Dom won. In f9 we see sean like a nerd, maybe he loss the drift king title, making him return to his old life and pursue his dreams
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
Lol nerd. Did it actually say who won in F9?
@roamingfulani1598
Ай бұрын
Dom let him win. As he always Does
@orochi2723
2 жыл бұрын
The truth is dom is the winner but he let sean win because being a drift king is not Dom's purpose.
@emirkaric3747
3 жыл бұрын
Sean beat DK also, for couple of months training. Dom won.
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
that is definitely impressive for a 17 year old
@billyt3474
2 жыл бұрын
There’s no way Sean lost he’s literally just became the new Drift King if he lost tha title would go to Dom and Sean would just be humiliated that’s why they didn’t show this race
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
yeah cause technically speaking neither one of them could lose the race. Sean is the drift king and Dom is the Hero of the franchise
@ShaggyDabbyDank
Жыл бұрын
He's "Drift king" of Tokyo. If you don't think Dom could've beaten both Han and Takashi idk where your head is at. Sean had to work hard recently in order to gain the skills to dethrone the old Drift King. At the start of the film he has no idea how to drift. Dom has been drifting longer than Sean has been alive, he just isn't in the Tokyo drift scene for long enough periods to hold titles there. It seems like he goes there for a bit then heads back to America. That's how he knew and beat Han in the first place. Sean has skills, he's a high level racer at his young age. But he doesn't have the experience, and he only barely won out over Takashi in their race. Going against someone like Dom, sure it's *possible* Sean came out on top but is it really likely? I don't think so.
@rdzk2149
2 жыл бұрын
it is said everywhere that dom won but it was a friendly race so sean is still DK
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
Everywhere? Where's that? Only one place matters where it was said and that's the movie itself which never stated who won
@sgtjohn4321
2 жыл бұрын
Sean won. Dom wouldn’t want to win cause then he’d be the drift king and ruin one of hans close friends reputation so he probably just follow and gave a nice show and Sean complimented him. The point of the race was for dom to meet the person who was close to han so I doubt he was taking this race competitively
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
possibly, Dom ad Sean could've both been racing hard and it might've been close but in the end Dom let Sean win
@martenrosin9376
2 жыл бұрын
Furious 7 (2015) would later reveal that the race between Dom (Vin Diesel) and Sean (Lucas Black) was won by Dom.
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@martenrosin9376 please sight the scene or quote the line in which it revealed that?
@thenorseprodigy7466
3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain their conversation to me because I don't know who said what so that I can decide on my own who actually won the race.
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
Sean: Han said you were fast, but not that damn fast. Dom: Who said American muscle can't drift Sean: Han mentioned he left his enemies in his rearview... He never talked about it much.
@thenorseprodigy7466
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 Thanks. So I think Sean won the race because they were talking casually after the race considering Sean gets irritated easily when he loses the race, and especially losing the title of DK would have hurt him a lot if he had lost the race and then Sean must've told him some drifting lessons.
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@thenorseprodigy7466 I agree the conversation seems strangely casual for Sean if he lost the race considering he's the drift king
@rmsimsar
3 жыл бұрын
Well they weren’t racing for the title, dom was just there to get Han but found out he died instead. And also Sean knew that dom was friends with Han so Sean was prob chill
@HarryPotter-ce7wk
2 ай бұрын
Old comment I know, I'm late but not ignorant. Think everyone, just think. If Dom won this race, the creators would just say it. They wouldn't leave a no joke, the biggest and most yearned for unanswered question of the entire series. If Dom won, it'd be "yeah, your good kid.But nothing beats American muscle." See that's a clear cut winner. But it wasn't that at all. It was a vague and blah ass quote. People overlook this fact. Sean won, why ? Because of what I said. They kept it vague because they know full well that If they told the real winner to the fan base. It'd make (some) people angry. Really at this point I don't think most would care. Because if you read comments and other media it's 60/40. A little over half think Sean won. The rest Dom.....KEEP THAT IN MIND, THEY AREN'T TELLING FOR A REASON. ITS AN OBVIOUS ONE. SEAN WON. THEY WONT SAY BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL BACKLASH. It's safety protocol 101. Don't piss off the fan base, keep it vague. No one gets hurt.
@sundaydriver2117
2 ай бұрын
thats def an interesting take i can see that
@philmorechristie3017
3 жыл бұрын
Well I think dom let Sean win but Sean knows that's what happen like before the race finish dom let Sean pass to keep his dk title
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting idea, I never thought of that but it would make a lot of sense if that's what happened
@XD-bc5vj
3 жыл бұрын
Dom would have let him win....same as he did for brian o conner
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
maybe, that could be a possibility
@retrodrago2895
2 жыл бұрын
This why I think dom won bc he been in the game for a while I’m pretty sure he’s been knowing how to drift longer than Sean so dom has more skill and experience than Sean since he been racing for a really really long time so I think dom won I mean he did say dom was fast and how is dom gonna be fast if there wasn’t any long ways to go only sharp turns so I think dom was really fast around them corners
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
We never see dom really drift like in tokyo drift but it's likely he's learned it. Sean however seems to be a quicker learner so he can obtain the skills quicker which is why he beat the original DK with at the most a year's worth of drift training. Dom was probably faster in the straights and Sean faster in the corners. I bet it was a close race either way no matter who won
@retrodrago2895
2 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 he was drifting in f5
@retrodrago2895
2 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 but I get what you’re saying
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@retrodrago2895 I mean drifting when compared to in tokyo drift. Dom more or less powerslides through wide-open areas where Sean has a controlled drift through tight areas. Sean technically drifted before going to tokyo in the first race, but it was more of a power slide drift then a controlled one
@joeniejayme6119
2 жыл бұрын
I mean i dont know whos the winner. I wish there would be a scene on who reached the finish line first.
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
I wish so too
@Fosten12
3 жыл бұрын
Sean won. But the compliment doesnt make sense then. They need to reveal this omg
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
I hope they reveal who won in F9
@lilkev5218
3 жыл бұрын
Dom won because sean said he didint know how fast dom was so i rhink dom won
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
it's quite possible
@ChristianVerzosa0
2 жыл бұрын
but you don't know whats under the hood though. Dom might have a better engine and drifting tires. Dom could of had a maxed out engine and Sean stock. But truly in MY opinion Dom won.
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
The engine in Sean's car is the same one that was in the mustang and Han's Silvia. When they're building the mustang we can see some of the parts going into it like a turbo. Even if we couldn't see what's in Sean's car we can tell it's definitely not stock. Dom's Roadrunner has around 750hp and I can't find the hp from the end Silvia but the original Mona Lisa had 280hp and the mustang the engine later went into had 340hp from what I was able to look up. Nowhere does it say Dom has drift tires but in the movie, we can say he does because the movie isn't supposed to portray what the cars can actually do, like the last race at the end of the first f&f movie when the supra and charger are made to look evenly matched but IRL the charger would destroy the supra. The movie itself makes the cars look evenly matched so we can say that they probably had similar performances. Even so, the Roadrunner is still bigger and heavier than the light and nimble Silvia even with similar modifications. We can have different opinions on who won. IRL based on the movie performance Sea would win, in movie Dom wins cause it's his movies lol
@ChristianVerzosa0
2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling in real life Sean would win but in the movie Dom would win idk lol
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianVerzosa0 i agree
@brakdoes8914
2 жыл бұрын
This gotta totally dewtroyed
@bijouxmathew1092
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you ! Well are you a racer?
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
not in real life but I play racing games. I'd like to learn how to race in real life, but I don't have a car and I work a lot
@bijouxmathew1092
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 All the best ! Keep on working for it One day you may become a racer.!
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@bijouxmathew1092 thanks bro 👍
@joshdelarue6930
Жыл бұрын
I said forget about it cuh
@mighaelbaardman3515
3 жыл бұрын
Sean is the same as Paul, dk, han. But they no that they all can not beat dom cause his driving skills is better than them all.
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
Paul/Brian beat Dom multiple times, Dom even had to cheat one time when Brian was gonna beat him. Han is pretty good too, not as good as Dom but he would have a chance at winning sometime. Sean isn't as good as Dom either, but he's in his element in this race. Sean has all the advantages over Dom. Realistically speaking Sean would win, but by Fast & Furious logic Dom would most likely win
@ryanher3647
3 жыл бұрын
Does Sean run away from Hobbs? I don’t think so lol this man Dom a track star 😂 you gonna assume that 20 years of experience is nothing compared to a year’s worth of experience?
@levitateme8316
3 жыл бұрын
What’s the name is the song???
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
idk which song you're referencing but here's a list of the songs I hear in the video 0:00 : NINTENDO Mii THEME (TRAP REMIX) - VANDAR 0:11 : The Prodigy - You'll Be Under My Wheels 0:42 : DJ Shadow - Six Days (Remix)
@skydavini5869
3 жыл бұрын
So we all know that sean knew the location and area because he is the dift King ok so he the answer for all you people who really wants to know. Don. did win because he know the location and area of where they raced. Also remember don know all of the racing circle around the world inside and out so think about it and holla back at me 😎😎😎
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
This was Dom's first time on the parking garbage track, we never see Dom in the parking garage at any other point in F&F. Dom is probably good enough to not need to know the location but considering the track layout is very technical it's gonna give Sean the advantage since he's raced on it longer and his skills in drifting are gonna help him as well. Dom never was said to know all the racing routes across the world, but Dom doesn't necessarily need to know them. Most of the time when Dom's won a race all the drivers were new to the track they were on, not just Dom.
@skydavini5869
3 жыл бұрын
@@sundaydriver2117 are you sure this was don s first time on the parking garage to let everyone know his has been around there before think about it
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@skydavini5869 pretty sure. Dom hasn't been seen in Tokyo other than in the parking garage scenes. He was busy living his life in L.A. after getting his pardon and before when he was still a criminal he was in Brazil
@skydavini5869
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah we all know that ok but he the thing han hang out with don ok so you have come to the conclusion that han was hanging out with don and he was informed of all racing circuit in Tokyo and other area also
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@skydavini5869 Dom's in L.A. and Han's in Tokyo, so what reason would there be for Han to tell Dom about the tracks in Tokyo? It was never implied that Han told Dom about the parking garage track either.
@Xecutioner62
3 жыл бұрын
Google it, fast and furious said Dom won
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
What was their evidece?
@CammyTheCamera
6 ай бұрын
Dom did great I would say
@MegaZee14
2 жыл бұрын
Dom Foh sure won Cuz "Family"
@abram4196
3 жыл бұрын
this means Dom probably was faster, but Sean had all the combos faster in turns as hes D.K Maybe dom Was a rival but in the end Sean didn';t permited him to win and Sean won.
@aisbbes3165
11 ай бұрын
Sean won. I started to believe that Dom is not the best, that even Brian could be better than Dom. Dom won the races against Brian because he cheated (i know the race had no rules, but lets say Dom wouldn't had hit Brian's car, he definetely would have won)
@juliocenteno5400
2 жыл бұрын
You’ll never know that’s just your Opinion
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
That's true. Hopefully they say it in one of the movies eventually
@MrAdobo-vi1cd
Жыл бұрын
I think no one won in this race. Dom take the lead on this race but never gone on top bec. of the size of his car
@jeffreyxiong205
3 жыл бұрын
Obviously sean cause dom can't drift
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
perhaps
@nidhidesai2425
2 жыл бұрын
i think this is fast and furious... there is nothing impossible,(no logic, no sense)so we cant say anything...but yeah.. logically Sean won the match
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
well at the time fast and furious still made sense, but you right lol
@Blake_Guajardo
3 жыл бұрын
How is this debate... dom won clearly
@sundaydriver2117
3 жыл бұрын
check out part 2 if you're interested. It argues for why Dom won
@elijahidunston3442
2 жыл бұрын
Dom for life
@sundaydriver2117
2 жыл бұрын
maybe
@wathiladesilva1999
3 жыл бұрын
No dude . Dom is the king of fast and furious .. winner can be dom..
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