Cheers to Dominaria! What was your favorite aspect of the story?
@michaelmorgan2111
6 жыл бұрын
Aether Hub probably Nissa leaving. 🤷🏼♂️
@AetherHub
6 жыл бұрын
Burrrrnnnn
@TheSwordsman100
6 жыл бұрын
@Aether Hub Gideon helping Liliana.
@cadenglass1387
6 жыл бұрын
Jaya being a Togh like mentor. Karn with his father's doomsday bowl. Chandra becoming more red green. And the Vess family.....
@FrostySumo
6 жыл бұрын
Mostly just seeing old characters again and their interactions with both themselves and newer characters.
@tonyc.0451
6 жыл бұрын
Jaya Ballard being both Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda to Chandra? Intriguing, but good choice, Wizards of the Coast.
@xJarlaxle
6 жыл бұрын
You're the best Seiben! Thank you for keeping me up to date on the lore
@AetherHub
6 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you so much and you are very welcome!
@ReZELpilot
6 жыл бұрын
I think the story itself was ok. I just hate how hollow it feels. Like this should've had 1 or maybe 2 more sets added to it, i mean half of mtg was set in Dominaria. There's alot of history there and to try and hastily boil it down to 1 single set just feels cheap. I also have an issue with Jace being the only one from the Gatewatch with any kind of character growth or anything like it while every one else is just kind of there. In fact there's so many characters or legendaries who don't have anything to do with the story, they just exist. Like Arvad, Shanna, Karn, Shalai, the Angel Lord, Squee, Rhadah, and a couple others i can't be bothered to remember. Same thing with Chandra, Gideon, and even Lilliana, they're just there going through the motions, especially Gideon who's just basically shrugging and then going along with whatever plan is hastily put together. This just goes back to the first complaint that there should have been 2 or 3 sets total to flesh out the story or something. Also why do we need to go straight to Ravnica? Why not see Nissa do stuff after finding a Bolas agent on Zendikar or something. Maybe follow them to Lorowynn and find another piece to Bolas' master plan. Would be nice to see someone other than Jace be a hero and also hype everyone up for the final showdown.
@salveteinfernum
6 жыл бұрын
William Powell Ravinca is the nexus of the multiverse,
@ReZELpilot
6 жыл бұрын
salvete That's fine, doesn't excuse lazy writing or rushing to get to Ravnica. My point is that Wizards of the Coast just didn't spend enough time with this story on Dominaria. They didn't flesh it out so it feels hollow. I mean outside of Slimefoot, Teferi, Jhoira, and maybe Lilliana everything and everyone else was just kind of there.
@salveteinfernum
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I get your point. The art, story and card stock have all been shambles lately...
@jesok3761
6 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly the last block to have only one set was coldsnap.
@jorgedaniel7261
6 жыл бұрын
Liliana has been developed quite a lot in this set. She has always been a kind of lone wolf, sulking and plotting her plans. When she was a part of the Gatewatch she was surrounded by friendly people who wanted to help others, and all she did was play them like pieces on a chessboard. She misused her friends. In this set, abandoned by most of those she trusted and needed, she finally learns what it means to work as a team. She learns to love others, something she hasn’t done in a long while. She saves her friends instead of killing her enemies. She saves Jhoira, she tends to Gideon’s wounds, she puts her beloved brother to rest. She is ecstatic about killing Bolas, she can’t wait. And when she tries to leave, she can’t. She is deathly scared. She is scared for herself, but also for her friends. She even considers dying, to prevent herself from being used as a weapon against her friends. But she resolves to betray him. She will save her friends once more. Chandra also goes through character development. She learns to focus, calm herself. Gideon is definitely the least developed, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t developed at all. He is stressed, weary, unlike in past sets where he was cool and reserved. He also doesn’t just go along with any plan that’s put together. He put together the last plan, and it failed miserably. He realizes that he doen’t know everything. He realizes that the best course of action isn’t always what he says. He must gain insight from others. In fact, he says no to plans in this story. He goes against Jace’s orders to forget Belzenlok and go to Ravnica. The other legendary cards printed in this set don’t require development. They are basically background characters. Thats like saying Jar-Jar Binks needs development, or Kumena needs development. These characters exist to flesh out the world, not so much the story. Squee wasn’t even mentioned in the story, the card was just printed for fanservice. Karn exists in this story to set up a possible block after Return to-Return to Ravnica. Jaya is a plot device to help Chandra develop herself. Also, your argument about hastily boiling down the history of Dominaria in this set is flawed. This storyline was never about summarizing the history of Dominaria. It was a new part of the story, with occasional nods to the history of Magic. To explain in detail the history of the plane would have taken ages. In fact the history of the plane is summarized extremely well in the actual cardboard itself, most notably in the Sagas and Legendary Sorceries.
@LordSkaj
6 жыл бұрын
Really liked this, it's often hard to catch the full story when you only get snippets here and there. Well presented too.
@ChristianFlores1808
6 жыл бұрын
I think it's a great idea to make different videos piece by piece of the lore then one concise story before the next set!
@mirthoutofmire
6 жыл бұрын
Glad to be making it on time for fresh content
@jays1de
6 жыл бұрын
oh, dominaria, we knew you... wait... why does ravnica get 3 sets and dominaria got 1?
@oliveragag8576
4 жыл бұрын
Well alot of the early sets were based on dominaria
@grantmcdougall7801
4 жыл бұрын
Because simic that's why
@tempestandacomputer6951
6 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these recaps for when I can't keep up with every video.
@BensonMTG
6 жыл бұрын
Great bedtime story. Good night 😴
@XxiOSgamerxX
6 жыл бұрын
I feel like Karn wasn’t developed enough and was just kind of thrown in
@robvakarian2330
6 жыл бұрын
I feel this was to set up a future block after the Ravnica sets
@cadenglass1387
6 жыл бұрын
Our robot friend had a long time to be developed. We know his story.
@salveteinfernum
6 жыл бұрын
Hes going to spirit bomb mirrodin with the urzabowl
@stardokplay4923
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel this way about all the characters in this story
@draxthemsklonst
6 жыл бұрын
Arty Shovelhead has backstory for days. Back when Teferi was just a 'Disruptive Student,' Karn was raised at Tolaria. Made of silver to withstand planeswalking/portals, before even being a planeswalker, himself. Built with Thran reverse-engineered tech+phyrexian heartstone from Xantcha (I believe was the sleeper agent's name). This is why argentum turned to mirrodin and then into new phyrexia...that Karn's heartstone was corrupted, being phyrexian in origin...corrupting the Mirrari/Memnarch. The guy has more development done before the other planeswalkers were thought of, than most of them do to this day. Not to mention, he has since then, had an entire 3 set block revolving around more backstory. Just saying.
@wisteriarice767
6 жыл бұрын
Omg what if Liliana is like struggling to choose a side so she decides to betray bolas and sacrifice herself for the gatewatch and as she's dying Jace like last minutes says that he loved her the entire time. What if they made that into a card?! like the final parting or something and the flavor text just says "I love you". Am I weird?
@aaronhooker7588
6 жыл бұрын
Danssketch not for a teenage girl.
@jesok3761
6 жыл бұрын
Jace has already planned a date with Vraska if you read the last few chapters of rivals of ixilan.
@AsylumEscapade
6 жыл бұрын
Jesok37 Jace has tendril fever...
@BobNinjaCat
6 жыл бұрын
You're just cringe
@AsylumEscapade
6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Evasiuk Why thank-you...
@danw.1250
6 жыл бұрын
Hmm, the way I see it there's only two ways Lilly gets herself out of this mess. Betraying Bolas in someway is a given, but only in such away as to facilitate an end. If Bolas can truly end her at any moment, than she can't just be seeing her friends getting their butts kicked ala Amonkhet and decide to betray him mid battle with a "damn the consequences" heroic sacrifice. Unless this is in order to further advance the story and to remove her as a tool of Bolas. She either has to die and then come back somehow, or the Gatewatch needs to broker a deal with the Elder Dragon. (Ravnica block) Hmmm, who could have some thing Bolas covets, but can't obtain? How about true immortally? What if the Gatewatch loses again on Ravnica, but before they abandon the plane to Bolas and his Lilly led legion of the dead they finally decide to listen to Ajani who tells them all to flee to Theros where "death" isn't quite the same as on other planes. What if in a fit of hubris Bolas sends his puppet necromancer after them to finish the job. (set up return to Theros)(But first, Return to Lorwyn) Meanwhile, Ajani planeswalks to Lorwyn where he has finally been able to track down a champion of the hunt. Garruk, the missing master of the hunt is enlisted by Ajani to hunt and end the threat of Bolas' sinister lieutenants and the great hunt begins with Ashiok who also happens to be on Lorwyn. 1 down....Let's find Tezzeret, off to wherever he's gone (set up another core set?)(R2Theros) What if on Theros Jace confronts his former flame and they square off in epic fashion. Jace kills Lilly and sends her soul to the Underworld, where her soul is out of Bolas' grasp, but still intact. Now, her contract fulfilled, the League needs to find a way to resurrect the fem fatal. As it just so happens, Erebos, immortal god of the dead has a whip to grind against a certain corrupt god of the sun, and is willing to either tempt Bolas with a deal to come to Theros where he can be defeated without the commander of his undead army...Or, better yet, in return taking down Heliod, Erebos agrees to release the souls of not only Lily, but Elspeth too. from there, it's up to Wizards....let's save the cylix for something non-phyrexian, maybe killing an Elder Dragon somehow....we don't need to visit another artifact plane for a while.
@Dmike
6 жыл бұрын
Very nice exactly what I've been looking for. I'm hoping to find the past lores on your page. New sub 🙂
@Dazanos
6 жыл бұрын
Amazing recap. I enjoyed it a lot. Thank you.
@juanmanuelestrugamou787
6 жыл бұрын
I really find somewhat dissapointing that they took only 1 set for Dominaria and will take 3 sets in Ravnica. I understand it's a very popular world, but I think that Dominaria it's richer and much more complex. Maybe it's the nostalgia of an old player talking
@EyalDegabli
6 жыл бұрын
couldn't agree more, Dominaria will always be my #1 Plane.
@jesok3761
6 жыл бұрын
I just finished the ice age cycle and I liked getting to see Jodah in the new lore.
@CalderaWolf
6 жыл бұрын
I haven't been keeping up with videos as much as i should, have you gone over the card Primevals Reborn, and if not could you please do so, its such an awesome card and i can't help but feel like it has some insane lore implications
@EvolvedDinosaur
5 жыл бұрын
Man I really hope that they flesh out Bolas more in Ravnica... I was so excited to hear about him popping up in Dominaria, but he just kinda took Liliana and dipped. I want to know more about his "Master Plan", and more importantly, I want it to succeeded. I want Wizards to try to make Infinity War, essentially
@Pentlochnap
6 жыл бұрын
in Ravinica fight will start they will "suprise" Nicol, but he will show them that Liliana is on his side and he will crush them. Some usseles heroes will die Jace will lost his memory (again - I thing he has tumor) and everyone else will planeswalk away. Ravinica will be saved by guilds. End.
@DrukenReaps
6 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the story but I feel like more should be going on with Dominaria. It is such an important plane and we haven't been here in forever, they really should have made it the center piece to this whole thing instead of Ravnica... Rav is really cool, one of my favorites but we really don't need to go back this soon.
@johnnyscifi
6 жыл бұрын
I cant believe that dominaria (2018) is already over. I havent even drafted it yet...:(
@CGoody564
6 жыл бұрын
johnnyscifi I bought nothing. At first I felt regret. Now I see the set and the lore are nothing special.
@johnnyscifi
6 жыл бұрын
Cory Goodman Honestly, im stoked on allot of the cards that came outta the set, but im just bummed that a return to dominaria only got one set, meanwhile we get a third return to ravnica and not only that but the return*2 block has more than one set...🤔
@danniandersen3585
6 жыл бұрын
I Think the story of Ixalan was much better, But in All it leads up to this Really epic battle on ravnica. With Bolas, Tezzeret, Liliana and wraska on one side ( maybe) and Gideon, chandra, ajani, Jace, teferie, maybe nissa and Karn on the other side. I am sure someone Will die in this massive battle. But overall we Really need to get back to Theros soon!!! Want more story from that plane 😢
@briannunez8041
6 жыл бұрын
Liliana no why!! Please let liliana be a hero and not die
@wiimilozy1
6 жыл бұрын
My theory is that she is gonna die like a hero :( she will gain Bola's trust and then betray him at the end and dying in the process... There are also rummors that if Liliana ages to the point of becoming dust (as Bolas said) Teferi may have the power to revive her
@ubeleynoe4818
5 жыл бұрын
@@wiimilozy1 damn clairvoyant...
@ianparish6845
6 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video
@jayceehampton9694
6 жыл бұрын
Some say that Liliana betrayed the Gatewatch to allege herself to Bolas. I beg to differ since she is still bound to her contract, so she is only follow its condition. Not to mention tha this may foreshadow a possible fight between Liliana vs Bolas.
@iancoker9618
6 жыл бұрын
Hello Aether... how have you been?
@RothurThePaladin
6 жыл бұрын
it was a good return to form. Would of been nice to see squee in the story.
@johnnyscifi
6 жыл бұрын
So, does that make Ajani the new green gatewatch member...speaking of green, when will Garuk be heard from again...?
@BretasDoc
6 жыл бұрын
I think Ugin and Sarkhan will join the gatewatch by M19
@timothylong5220
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ChasonBourne78
6 жыл бұрын
It's sad that Karn did not do much in the final boss fight...
@masterthnag105
6 жыл бұрын
I want them to go back to Rath. Bring back slivers!
@jesok3761
6 жыл бұрын
Master Thnag There are still slivers in dominaria if I remember correctly, and wasn't rath the plane that overlayed into dominaria during the phyrexian invasion.
@masterthnag105
6 жыл бұрын
Jesok37 I think you are correct about the planes merging. I wonder if they were exterminated though.
@jesok3761
6 жыл бұрын
They were there in the last dominaria set in 2007.
@andykapsar4667
6 жыл бұрын
Jesok37 they were garbage in 2007. rath cycle slivers for life.
@jesok3761
6 жыл бұрын
What about sliver legion, poultice sliver, frenzy sliver, lymph sliver, or reflex sliver, and if you just like the slivers from the tempest block than what about the slivers from the onslaught block or I had almost forgotten about the slivers from M15.
@cletuskasadycollector
6 жыл бұрын
I feel very lost as I could not afford thd packs in my area. They were gone, purchased and gone. I do like this storyline but I could not get packs from this set. My Walmart was out completely. Washington sucks for MTG!!!!
@richardbritton4675
6 жыл бұрын
Liliana is going to be real salty about vraska
@AetherHub
6 жыл бұрын
Total drama Gatewatch
@jonarvaez8232
6 жыл бұрын
Richard Britton Hahahaha
@richardbritton4675
6 жыл бұрын
There was hardcore foreshadowing in one of the dominaria stories, Liliana said she wished she could turn someone to stone
@MusicMan-xu3ys
6 жыл бұрын
What was even the point of the liliana’s brother part?
@bigking7608
6 жыл бұрын
Hey hey now Lillian didn't lie she simply bent the truth
@AlohaNationKode
6 жыл бұрын
We Need Garruk to join the fight
@jorgedaniel7261
6 жыл бұрын
Do you think Bolas will win in the end?
@stephenhousman6975
6 жыл бұрын
How much do you want to bet that lili is going to break her contract with bolas?
@professorbarks5664
6 жыл бұрын
My lore sorce
@chaloux9419
6 жыл бұрын
slime foot is the only reason that dominaria was a set he is the true savior of dominaria
@dragonballtalk8527
4 жыл бұрын
I got the tiana angel worker woman card
@DawnDX
6 жыл бұрын
So wait did you say slimfoot talked to a thalid named urborg when did he become a thalid. And does that mean muldratha is part of urborg
@jesok3761
6 жыл бұрын
Kenny siu I think seiben told us in an earlier video that multani created muldratha as like a avatar of urborg.
@DawnDX
6 жыл бұрын
Jesok37 oh I've been skipping story lines. I just heard this on this video.
@SoundsOfSushi
6 жыл бұрын
Im so over the Gatewatch story. End it already.
@midnalight6419
6 жыл бұрын
Oath of Karn
@UserNameMandatory
4 жыл бұрын
Jaya is pronounced as Ya-Ya
@andykapsar4667
6 жыл бұрын
the final encounter with bolas? wizards cant let the defacto chump bad guy die, theyll have no other vehicles to push crappy plots.
@grantmcdougall7801
4 жыл бұрын
How liliana controls the people around her like the simps they are! Lol
@Forsparda
6 жыл бұрын
wait it defaulted to bolas?!?!? Why? HOW?
@C00kiesAplenty
6 жыл бұрын
Forsparda Bolas brokered the deal between liliana and the 4 demons. He probably had it written in knowing she would eventually kill them
@Forsparda
6 жыл бұрын
why would ANYONE sign ANYTHING handled by bolas?!?!? might as well light your own dumbass on fire id be surpised if bolas didnt get the demons souls after liliana ganked them
@C00kiesAplenty
6 жыл бұрын
Forsparda It was a deal with 4 demons for an ancient immortal necromancer to regain her immortality and power post mending, that was brokered by a centuries old Elder Dragon planeswalker. Nobody there was trustworthy. Bolas had the conections with the demons to get the deal going; liliana already knew Bolas; and wanted ger post mending power back. It was the only way for her.
@Forsparda
6 жыл бұрын
Are you REALLY trying to say liliana wouldnt know at least a few demons that could make this pact? really? really??
@C00kiesAplenty
6 жыл бұрын
Forsparda Know a few demons, and know a few demons that wouldnt betray her at the nearest opportunity are two different things. Thats where bolas comes in. Edit: And theres also that the demons have to be powerful enough to actually provide their end of the deal. Liliana was an oldwalker, and a necromancer. Im not certain kicking it with demons for no reason was her cup of tea
@liamcrowley2650
6 жыл бұрын
Lilliana nooooo!!!
@williamjubi
6 жыл бұрын
Liliana is better as a villain. Bolas needs to kill a couple of the Gatewatch at least Gideon. That goofy looking dude has been mono white's human hero rep way too long.
@uhadlogs
6 жыл бұрын
Doughminaria omegalul
@robna1168
6 жыл бұрын
Bet the story blows from this point on
@danielwicks4650
6 жыл бұрын
sup
@ViviElsher
6 жыл бұрын
Sub
@pissmonsterpairs5928
6 жыл бұрын
It’s pronounced Dom-a-nar-ia
@pissmonsterpairs5928
6 жыл бұрын
Triggerd REEEEEEEEE
@NuclearCricket17
6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Terrible story yet again.
@jellyfrosh9102
6 жыл бұрын
Ever since the gatewatch became a thing, the story has been fucking terrible.
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