That pipe has holes for a reason and it's been there for decades. Are you calling about Eastman too? I worked in big Eastman for 7 years before coming to domtar 15 years ago and can tell you they dump some nasty chemicals in the water everyday the locals have no idea about. What we release is treated pulp process water, literally has minimal chemicals while it's being treated. And yes, we stay in compliance with the EPA with what is released into the river. Still retains a color from the pulping process, that's what you are seeing and freaking out about. I fish this river just like Mike does, I don't see fish floating everywhere. But I'm sure he'll tell you that to add to the drama already being created. I mean wouldn't you get defensive if a bunch of misinformed Karens were trying to shut down where you make $100k+ a year?? If not you're a liar. That's my two cents, take it for what's it worth. I know there is nothing but internet experts on here so don't listen to me, I've only been there 15 years, Facebook knows best.
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
Yes, I'll call out Eastman if i see it. I work there. I've not and never have reported a fish kill from Domtar because I've not seen one. I will report one if I do. I'm not trying to shut down Domtar but they have a responsibility, just as all other companies that use the river not to discharge material to the river. I can tell you this, when I've been through there the chemical smell will cut your lungs out. They may be within their discharge limits of their permit but when they restarted they were not. They were fined. They were put on notice. It's all on the TDEC website. It's the publics and river users duty to report discharges to the air or water. I'll continue to do that whereever I see it, no matter who is doing it.
@WilliamDance-v7c
Ай бұрын
Mike, Thanks for watching over the river. We all need nice places to fish and enjoy. Have you collected upstream and downstream samples and had analyzed at a certified lab? How do you know that it does not comply with the current permit? Is the discharge fully organic and poses no harm? Any concern that the City of Kingsport has a open top waste water treatment plant less than 1300 feet from this area as far as smell and discarge? Previous fines may not indicate current situation as BAE and Eastman have far more serious issues. Just a good idea to collect factual information before sounding the alarm as these things can get costly if damage is created on either side.
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
Domtar has been issued a NOV and been referred to enforcement by TDEC for that discharge. This has been ongoing since that plant start up. They have a permit to discharge as long as that discharge has no color. That discharge clearly has color and it is clearly coming form their pipe. That pipe actually comes from their lagoon across the river. They pump their effluent to that lagoon which is just an aeration/settling basin. The chemistry of that effluent is different from what they dealt with as a paper plant and they can't figure out how to manage that organic funk that's created. I've not sampled any parts of the river but I have and will continue to report discharges no matter where they come from. Question everyone should be asking is this: why, if they are under NOV and ENforcement and they KNOW they can't manage the funk off that lagoon why not pump that to a trailer and send it off to be properly burned or disposed of instead of just continuing to piss it in the river?? I'd guess MONEY.
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
@@WilliamDance-v7c Tina Robinson from TDEC was there yesterday collecting samples of that discharge and substrate. She said the discharge was not supposed to have color
@CarolinaBassHunter
Ай бұрын
Good job bringing attention to this
@davidbayse5320
Ай бұрын
There was a horrible sulfur like smell in air recently. Figured was coming from them. Thanks for the video
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
Report it to tdec. every time
@073286
Ай бұрын
How is it sulfer, we use zero sulfer in our process, never have.
@davidwilliams1805
Ай бұрын
That's just terrible Mike! I really hope something is done about it. I do appreciate you sharing this!
@JR-rv1ov
Ай бұрын
Good job showing that Mike! Great view of whats going on. Needs to be some accountability.
@lloydwilliams7674
Ай бұрын
This incident is a black eye on the beautiful State of Tennessee.
@chrisratliff136
Ай бұрын
Great Job Mike, have you contacted WCYB or WJHL yet on this matter? There needs to be an investigation and accountability!!!
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
I've tagged them in facebook post. I do not have contacts there. I've also sent the videos from yesterday into their Chime In page. I've also filed a report with Tennessee River Keepers. I tried to friend and tag Caleb Perhne of WCYB but he has not accepted a friend request from me.
@chrisratliff136
Ай бұрын
@@BigBaitPosse thanks for you work on the Mike, I will call and file a complaint as well, maybe if enough people speak up something will get done!
@VA_Yakangler
Ай бұрын
Mike i work in water filtration industry. I can have taud,tdec, multiple state personal involved with a few calls. This is completely unexeptable in this day and time.
@tallens5280
Ай бұрын
I saw an editorial headline but I can't remember where. It said, residents noticing the smell. Anyway, someone wrote about it, and it needs to be addressed. I noticed it today, hard to miss.
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
@@tallens5280 report it to TDEC every time you smell it
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
I saw that in the paper months ago. I think it was someone who lives in Ridgefields who reported the smell to TDEC.
@calvinalley3434
Ай бұрын
Shameful that TDEC let’s this happen with no accountability….
@Basshunter360
Ай бұрын
Everyone needs to report it. The more that does it should get something done quicker .
@KayakFishingWithMark
Ай бұрын
Wow. I assume that’s toxic waste?
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
@@KayakFishingWithMark it’s waste from a paper plant
@MikeLesterCH
Ай бұрын
if there's no proper treatment before discharging it to the water, then it's clearly not good
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
It’s treated from what I know about it but it has a smell and looks really bad. I don’t know if they are violating their permit but it’s getting reported.
@073286
Ай бұрын
Last thing, you all have complained so much we are getting ready to drop $30-50 million on an anaerobic digester that will do away with our lagoon and clarifier. Be about a year away but I know you all will keep calling because you have nothing else better to do.
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
awesome, maybe the video I sent would get the corportate folks to move that little project along.
@EngineeringHooksets
Ай бұрын
Disgusting and sad. Ill call and report tomorrow when theyre open
@bucktalesoutdoors7566
Ай бұрын
This sucks, why hasn’t the EPA gotten involved ?
@BigBaitPosse
Ай бұрын
It has been reported to TDEC multiple times. They have been fined back in April. Beleive it or not it hard to get people to report it for some reason..blows my mind. People fish it all the time, they even wade in there.
@073286
Ай бұрын
Oh, and the same people complaining on here are probably the same ones that called while the mill was completely down, no processes running whatsoever. I'm not saying we don't stink but you do realize the cities waste treatment is right beside our woodyard on industry Dr right?? You people literally called thinking it was us while we were completely shit down🤦. That is why I can't take you people serious.
@billdye3530
Ай бұрын
If Domtar isn't doing anything wrong you shouldn't be getting upset. It's just part of the process according to you. But don't drink any samples from down stream unless you think it's safe. People downstream are more important than money from a job.
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