When someone says a field is competitive I just roll my eyes with exhaustion. It seems some ppl hacen realised we are 8 billion mofos in here. Literally any field is competitive 😂
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
100%.
@DJ-Illuminate
Жыл бұрын
I was a graphic designer and a good one in 1991 but it was too competitive where I lived so I jumped into web design. This worked until 1998 so I jumped into web programming with JS and eventually CSS and PHP. This then got too competitive so I also added server maintenance. Now with Low Code we are where print design was when desktop publishing happened. The income levels will drop. I am waiting to see where Framer and WebFlow are going before I jump back in. I do like Framers AI. Oh, I am 66 years old. I haven't found work in two years because of my age. It apears people think I am outdated when I'm not.
@sushantkumar7163
Жыл бұрын
You kinda inspire me in this give up easily world.❤️
@gastonm
Жыл бұрын
Hope you find a job soon! Cheers.
@randolphpinkle4482
11 ай бұрын
Show your portfolios, your projects. Forget about age.
@whizz-macky2568
11 ай бұрын
I thought most would happily hire with all the experience acquired
@LucasInTheAyer
8 ай бұрын
Ageism sucks man. Yeah sorry to hear about that. I keep thinking to myself... is this a sustainable job? Will people judge me if I'm 60 and still doing this? You just confirmed it 😢
@jansleyreal
Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to get into UX design the past 9 months, and with the rapid rise in AI and massive tech layoffs, it's occasionally made me question the longevity of this career path. Appreciate you shedding light on this issue!
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
Good luck Jansley!
@yofi2614
Жыл бұрын
@@FriedToiletDuckRice Microsoft
@roshinahasan5288
Жыл бұрын
Wow. This is as real as it gets! And that’s why I love your videos Ran. I feel like social media pushes the idea that we need to be this “millionaire” designers when in all honesty that’s not true.
@bradleylambert3284
Жыл бұрын
I'd be more than happy to earn 50-60k a year doing something I enjoy that I'm in control of! I don't think I would want the hassle of a 500k a year agency.
@TravelleMcManus
Жыл бұрын
I am in the process of starting a webflow agency and I was pretty discourage when I saw Payton video. I know that wasn't his intention but it made me think long and hard if I should keep pursing this and I ultimately decided I will because how much joy I got out of web design that even if I didn't get rich, I would be happy with what I am doing. Well this video was definitely what I needed to really get my spirit back up and I am excited to launch my business here in the next month! Thank you Ran!
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
go go go! if you love what you'll do you'll have more energy to improve and WIN
@crelloc
Жыл бұрын
Create the agency but you need to niche down to a market(s) and network network network to get referrals.
@TravelleMcManus
Жыл бұрын
@@crelloc great advice! I’m thinking on marketing towards small online e-commerce business that sells digital (or physical) assets
Web Design + Digital Marketing + CRO (Conversion Rate Optimization) is the way forward
@yokoso2386
Жыл бұрын
so it is like landing page?
@fidel.magallon
Жыл бұрын
Well I do agree for the most part about the points you make in the video, but having tested Stable Diffusion in this last week to create images, I have a different perspective about the Ai part. It's no so simple to get the perfect image you want, it takes some effort to get it right. Maybe if you use sites like Midjourney you might be a little faster and easier to use, but you have less control over the results compared to Stable Diffusion which gives you control over everything, like a Photoshop for Ai. You need to spend time testing different text combinations and fixing errors until you get the result you want and you can also mix and match different art types to make your own unique style that will set you apart from the rest. So just because you're using Ai doesn't mean your work will look generic or like a template, because you have limitless creativity that goes beyond your own abilities. Another thing I like about it is that you can make your own unique "stock" photos, instead of searching the web for hours to get images that many people have used before. And all this doesn't mean that you won't have to use tools like photoshop and Illustrator, because many things are better to do them over there. It only means that you have new tools to be faster, more creative and with more satisfaction at the end of the day. I don't know about others but many times I've had to conform with images that fail to reach my standards, because sometimes I don't have the ability to do them or there's a time constraint because of the project deadlines or the budget won't allow me to buy the stock photos. So I can say it's so refreshing to be able to get an improvement on that side because the images are so good that you can't tell the difference between a well made Ai image and a photo. So if you have not tried to use Ai tools yet, I'd highly recommend it because it will change your mind.
@dimitrishow_D
9 ай бұрын
Agreed ai stil takes a lot of work...
@alenaatikh
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video ❤ I've been working in digital, content marketing, social media, all this. I'm 30 now and studying UX/UI design for a couple of months, hope it's not too late for me. Good luck everyone ☺
@Farisdalia
11 ай бұрын
Hey how is it going:)?
@josy9767
9 күн бұрын
where can you study ux/ui design ? it s like a bachelors degree or "just" a course ?
@PaytonClarkSmith
Жыл бұрын
Well put Ran 👍🏻 While our approaches were different, I think we both want designers to succeed by being aware of the pros and cons of the industry. I would add that I am also a web designer and would still choose this career over anything else! My video provides ways to overcome all of these negatives so you can succeed. My next KZitem video: How Ran Segal became my Mortal Enemy 🥷” 😂 jk Talk soon my friend
@JeremyMuradesign
Жыл бұрын
you guys should do a webflow battle ;)
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
haha! why enemy?!
@PaytonClarkSmith
Жыл бұрын
@@FluxAcademy totally kidding 😂
@RafaelSantiagoBuenoArdila
Жыл бұрын
I think your channel is great too. greetings from Colombia
@NeptuneDesign
Жыл бұрын
Real talk!!! Appreciate you Ran!! Much love from South Africa
@lg8159
Жыл бұрын
If we would compare the impact of AI with the same revolutionary impact as ‘from horse to cars’, meaning faster with no need of horses (web designers). It’s wrong. The consequences are bigger. It’s more like horses to time/place traveling. Imagine that you, instead of WhatsApp, you could visit your relatives across the ocean in a nano-second. It would destroy multiple businesses: - aviation - travel agencies - airports all around the world - food& beverages industry (no snack or coffee breaks needed) - chaos due to massive criminality/illegal border entrance - more legislations and more strict government control But it will also has a bunch of benefits: - cleaner environment - less traffic - less Jet lag ( I suppose, did not give a lot of thought to it) - happier individuals with off-shore relatives/friends because the borders are literally GONE .. so you can visit anybody, anytime, anywhere. Translate this to AI today: - no need for copywriters (hello, chatGPT) - no need for photographers and web designers (hello Midjourney) And what about Web developers??? Webflow is also trying to cut us out with their AI integrated tool. AI is disruptive in every sense of the word, but also exciting and hopeful. It all depends on how it will be used.
@daliafatima8463
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ran to clarify my doubts,,,Im in the way to be a PRO Web Designer 🙌
@chubz-clashmini304
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video I came on here to understand web design because my younger brother was going into it, but it really gave good advice for other fields
@ez3902
Жыл бұрын
Don't be a web designer, be a designer who's specialized in improving conversion rates for B2B & B2C Products. There now you're more in demand.
@zimocj
Жыл бұрын
Can I contact u to know more about this?
@maryamhh
11 ай бұрын
What the difference between them and how be a designer ???
@telsamorgan5369
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are very useful and provide lots of information. I have received lots of help after watching this post, please continue to share this kind of information. Thank you.
@itssezi
Жыл бұрын
You got it right in the center, Ran! Especially on your last topic, we already see saturation in the market that emerges out of lack of inspiration, risk aversion, or everybody going to Pinterest (sometimes, even me included ahah), AI will aggravate it. Those with the creativity and critical thinking to search for new and interesting solutions are the ones who'll make it in the long run, because those are the ones that the brands who want to stand out will reach out.
@eliasnabi
Жыл бұрын
Regarding your comment on AI, starting around the 11:40 timestamp, it seems that the key advantage will lie with individuals who excel at communicating with AI, rather than those skilled in traditional "hand made stuff- non AI methods". The ability to create highly specific designs will be dependant upon effective communication with AI, which may ultimately distinguish the top designers in this era of advanced technology. In the digital realm, it's improbable that we'll see a total "flip" in the industry as you've described, given the nature of AI technology. However, this is merely my opinion, and only time will tell. Regardless, Ran, your perspective is quite thought-provoking and insightful.
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
Interesting, its still too early to really tell how things will unfold..
@KoolKatVibes
Жыл бұрын
50-70k is nice and all but the cost of living in the US is BONKERS. so yeah, i think it's a bit underpaid
@KoolKatVibes
Жыл бұрын
also the minimum wage doesn't even come close to covering the cost of living
@depayanmondal
Жыл бұрын
please make more portfolio reviews but this time focused on the portfolios of web developers
@morizanova
Жыл бұрын
USD 100 -200 is common price, people in my country or town agree to pay for SOHO web design works . Some works maybe offer more money but it also come with much complex assignments which you guys in first world would charging them around USD 10k -20k
@hellobont
Жыл бұрын
Price is relative to the budget of your client Moriza. If you offer the same work to someone with a higher budget (and they trust you as an expert), they will happily pay more than USD200. And nowadays you're not limited to your country. You are watching a video made by someone in Israel. I'm from Argentina, and have charged international rates myself. So your biggest limitation is your mindset.
@morizanova
Жыл бұрын
@@hellobont first all, thanks for reply . And secondly yeah we`ve been taking advantage from cross continent and international freelance works (which paid us 4 - 5 times better for easier task ) in last 5 - 8 years or so I`m not sure , if my last comment before , I was implied any kind of lazy mindset but what I wanted to said was, In some country or area, value not always equal with better price . Simply because we had different meaning of value compared what any youtube and design school taught us Even if some our local client really want paying us more , their financial conditions just not allowing that for happen . So forget about using premium plugins or working with any easy solution offered by annual subscriptions platforms out there Do it in native programming language or people branding you as template workers a.k.a Not Expert Dev That`s why you`ll find lots of young creatives from my country flooding any freelance platforms
@okamgbapatrick415
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes media just makes you feel like giving up and looking for another means to make money But in life there is always gonna be bumps on your way to success Determination and consistency always pays Thanks for the video!!! Your content has helped me alot👍🏿
@lifotechnologies814
Жыл бұрын
Myself Aravind Iam Indian. being indian Webdev Iam Surving with Html Css(Bs) Js(Jquery) and for backend with django. Iam now getting salary 35K inr. Now with the help of AI I transformed into UI dev with in three months (daily night 3hrs + weekend ) and In june there will be increment around 10K inr Approach AI +Ly
@adevikthur
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for reviving this fire 🔥.
@vickywitvicky
Жыл бұрын
The final point about the AI is the nail in the coffin mate thank you for make ppl realize about their mistakes. For some reason ppl just Hype it everything and destroying it, just how they doing it for NFT, crypto and Web 3
@zhyparandasheva
Жыл бұрын
Thanks you are really smart, you are helping me get again my motivation, Thanks a lot 🙏
@Somethingaweful
9 ай бұрын
Damn I wanted to become a comic-book writer, AI took it over. Okay, fine web-developer, AI took it over... Just a general programmer..... AI took it over. I'm starting to think we are fucked. There's no point, people want to make money. They don't want to better mankind. If they can replace us. They will.
@warrior289
Ай бұрын
fr bro same thing with me
@warrior289
Ай бұрын
i'm not able to decide which skill should I peruse
@TheEnterthedreaming
Жыл бұрын
Don't look at the minimum wage in the US as any gauge of anything. Minimum wage doesn't pay the bills.
@businessdesigner5460
11 ай бұрын
This is why I loved you. I want to ask a question. I think you would familiar with T shape skills development. Is App design, Web design and landing Page design is an another skills to perform the design for different sizes of screen and if it is! then what design skills should I choose to make it t shaped skills.
@denniszenanywhere
Жыл бұрын
There’s one site where you can do a rough sketch and it generates a ui design. This means AI can generate individual designs based on your needs. Now that is scary as it would also affect ux designers.
@feyishow4469
Жыл бұрын
Really😮😮. Plz wats the site?
@sinamalakzadeh4843
Жыл бұрын
What should i do at last Web design and web development? Or Ml and li
@yokoso2386
Жыл бұрын
so what do you choose
@jean-huguesdoumbe6994
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ran
@reethkitchards
Жыл бұрын
Most clientele have bad taste and don't value design or understand it's importance.
@manjoeshar
Жыл бұрын
how a web designing is different from UI/UX?
@administrator4728
Жыл бұрын
Bruh, no one in America can survive off of 15k a year unless they live with their parents. 50k you can barely get by in a cheap city. I pay 20k a year just in rent for a tiny 2 bedroom apartment.
@_ar8410
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree on your take on AI
@FunTelligence7
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@SoumikMallick123
Жыл бұрын
@Flux Academy Thank you Ran for the motivation 🙏
@SIDotaku
Жыл бұрын
To the last point about A.I, I think you're making the mistake (that everybody else is making) of thinking in human/historic terms. The whole point of A.I is NOT to be robotic. In other words, if a web design A.I is crafted properly, it will create ORIGINAL works better and faster than humans can. Even if it's simply through it's speed of iteration.
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
Clients wants a hug with their website. Ai can't do that (I'm not joking, go watch the Trust The Process documentary on this channel and see for yourself)
@SIDotaku
Жыл бұрын
@@FluxAcademy - I'll definitely check it out. But again I feel you're missing the point of A.I...The reason you YOURSELF don't need to hire a web designer is because you have the capability to create beautiful, well thought out UI/UX. EVERYONE will have that capability in the near future in the form of A.I agents. Design as a viable vocation WILL disappear as people get integrated with this technology. We WILL be obsolete! And I say this as a person who's been a professional designer for 17 years
@arpitshrmah
11 ай бұрын
@@SIDotakuDude everyone could start making content 15 years ago when Garyvee was shouting over his lungs. Now how many businesses were able to do that? There are a lot of content creators who make so much money simply because they provide distribution to businesses. How on earth do you think every business can just do drag & drop and make websites when there are a lot other stuff to do. Think yourself more of a service provider & not a website designer.
@SIDotaku
11 ай бұрын
@@arpitshrmah - The video was speaking specifically about design so that is what I was specifically commenting on. But to your point about diversifying your role(s), yes, that DOES seem like the most viable solution. The problem is predicting the kinds of things A.I will ultimately change. Even OpenAI doesn't really know. So for all we know, the leveraging of intelligence/skill/creativity (which is what being a "service provider" is) might not even be a thing in the near future. A.I is like NO other technology we've ever come up with before.
@arpitshrmah
11 ай бұрын
@@SIDotaku Are you saying that businesses would need NO services in the future as they can AUTOMATE every single one of them? I hope I misunderstood it. Businesses would always need more & more distribution for sales. And people who starts from zero & built their way up, have a good work ethic, only DEATH can stop them.
@Ayo_-_
Жыл бұрын
Nice! that's really a great idea looking in the long run, just as how today's original paint art work are more expensive...
@plantifulalexandra
Жыл бұрын
2:42 I live in a small German village/in the forest. I don't have any local clients.😅 Maybe there are some, not sure how to get to them.
@brunel23
Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on AI apps that allow you to create a website in minutes? Is this not going to replace web designers?
@hrvstmusic
Жыл бұрын
Nope.
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
I discuss this on this and other videos
@lifotechnologies814
Жыл бұрын
how long a company provide Ai for Free?
@bancroftberlin
Жыл бұрын
Payton loves his click-baity titles, this and his often contradicting statements is why I stopped watching him. In contrast to you: Very solid arguments, especially that everything offering a good career is competitive. It's up to you to be honest to yourself on the way. You might not have what it takes if you can't get a leg up and choose a different path.
@dougscott188
Жыл бұрын
AI will be a super power for good designers.
@rmadaconcepts9117
Жыл бұрын
Its probably still okay but I worry about my son generation. Class of 2033 might not have a design industry worth working towards.
@kluplau
Жыл бұрын
1:17 ... Webflow? "... all of the topics that Payton listed as reasons not to get into Webflow..." Webflow?
@jonathanfelso
Жыл бұрын
Wtf is up with your water bottle?
@adamzonnis980
Жыл бұрын
There will always be work for anyone willing to go out and find clients.
@EduwareIzekor
Жыл бұрын
Nice take on this old age question. There is a guy named Ben hunt who wrote a ebook 7 years+ ago with the title 'Webdesign is dead'. And much of its content still ring true today. I think the focus is too much on design which has been commodotized by all the emerging tools the past few years and it will even get worse due to AI. How can a designers differiante themselves? The answer is to learn skills outside of your core skills. Namely marketing, sales, how businesses works, copywriting etc...Why? Because as a designer your main focus is design and when you pivot to getting your clients results then you can truly thrive. The client wants to go from his current situation to their desired situation which could mean sales, leads etc...Design sits in the middle, what can you do after design to help them reach their goals? Can you guarantee results? These things will never change. If you want to stick to only design then I believe it will only get tough unless you are among the 10%. Another strategy might be to niche down and own a category. In my opinion web design might become less and less revelant as the tools we use keep getting more proficient. Knowing how to build a website is one thing, knowing how to get results is another thing. That's where the big bucks$$$$$ lives.
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
100%!!!
@intothelight777
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I am a business owner, not a website designer, yet I design a few websites here and there. I gave up on getting someone to build me a website because at the end of the day I realised that wasn't what I wanted. I wanted a tool to generate me clients and income. Most of the website designers out there had no idea on how to create a tool (website) that would deliver for me. Yes, they could build beautiful websites but what was the point if they weren't building my business. I've spent years learning how to build websites and marketing strategies that combine because I wasn't in a position of spending a ton of money on the people who actually knew how to do it properly. The lesson learned is if you decide to run a business then you must know what the customer wants. You might think they want a website. That's where you need to learn the art of asking the right questions. If you are just into website design then yes you will eventually go broke unless you find that tiny market that just want an amazing interactive website. Also since I'm not young anymore the other lesson in life is to consider how much money you want and what you're prepared to do for it. Many of us will build a very good business that provides a sufficient income. Get over the fact that you have to be the best and make the most money. Those ideas are for the dreamers. Just offer a quality service and you will earn a decent income. Create a niche and your income will increase. But remember, it's never about the money. It's about what the money will bring. If you want fun and that's what your business brings then you are already rich.
@EduwareIzekor
Жыл бұрын
@@intothelight777 I totally agree with you. I have given up on that dream of wanting to be the best or make the most money. I just want to deliver results for the industry I serve and make some money doing it. Everyone should decide for themselves what enough is. The constant persuit for higher profits and more awards is endless. If you know your number that will bring you a decent life then go for it. Have a great day!
@EduwareIzekor
10 ай бұрын
No, I have the book though :)@RealLifeOfTate
@mateusvidal3187
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you Ran. I'm starting this journey and the more I see many successful people in this market I get more confident about the choice I made. There is still a lot of space for those who work smart and consistently.
@suryanshdesigner6102
Жыл бұрын
Great choice! Can we work together?
@thecreator5143
Жыл бұрын
@@suryanshdesigner6102 what you do?
@suryanshdesigner6102
Жыл бұрын
@@thecreator5143 i do ui designing and also learnt GD earlier
@okparaeric7637
9 ай бұрын
@@suryanshdesigner6102where do you see your clients?
@nicolatoledo
Жыл бұрын
Agree, and we are all different so also our service is different even if looks similar to other, we need to be smart and good to show or unique value 🔥
@Hoss_VegasTTV
Жыл бұрын
Oh, my sweet summer child, don’t go by our minimum wage. If you work full time making minimum wage you’re eligible for government assistance. 50-70k is just above paycheck to paycheck in most places in this country.
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the context!
@Alexandra-ek6bb
Жыл бұрын
Excuse me? The "old people" you're referring to are not at all lazy and neglecting keeping up with the new tools and best practices. We are (at least I am) in fact a perpetual learner and as passionate about design and user experience as ever. Not only that, we have experience in areas that the young people don't, which gives us a competitive edge. Here' the great thing about being a designer - you can do it at any age as long as you're physically and mentally healthy and it's your sole job. My kids are raised, I'm in excellent health, and love my work.
@arpitshrmah
11 ай бұрын
You go grandma
@monikamoon14
Жыл бұрын
Almost clients had a vision but no budget - and I mean couldn't afford me even at affordable prices... Finding those proper paying clients... Ooooff. How do you find those people, suitable paying clients?
@hellobont
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more with ALL of this man, very well explained. I actually don't like the word "competition" either. Like you said, there's enough for all of us. We are only competing with ourselves. Also, loved your forecast of how AI can affect the industry. I hadn't thought about it like that, but it makes total sense that "human made" is going to become even more valuable than it is today. I think that AI can do great basic work, but I don't think it will be able to create advanced level design. So granted, if you're at the bottom of the pyramid, you'll probably have people doing things at the same level but faster using AI. Anyways, always love to hear your take on these things.
@basianiez5576
Жыл бұрын
I’m currently learning to be a web designer and manage to get my first projects. I was in a lot of doubt at first but I can see that locally there’s definitely a demand on that. I think you are making very valid points! besides I really enjoy making websites
@FluxAcademy
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! thanks for sharing and good luck on your journey!
@basianiez5576
Жыл бұрын
@@FluxAcademy thank you! and for making this channel, I learn so much from here :)
@carlosacosta799
Жыл бұрын
do you know how to coding too?
@wilfredthole1200
Жыл бұрын
The same with me but I'm only 14 so people try to discourage me but I still have people who help and support me
@wilfredthole1200
Жыл бұрын
@@FluxAcademy thanks for the advice
@heroofhyrule2642
Жыл бұрын
Do you have to learn JavaScript to become web designer?
@adsonmettler
Жыл бұрын
Great discussion, great analysis, and great content! Thanks for sharing, I just subscribed to the channel!
@thetranspersonalalchemist
Жыл бұрын
50k in the US aid really difficult to live off of even thought the minimum wage is so low. Minimum wage is an amount that literally no one can live on. Even 70k is difficult yo live off of in most markets as a single person.
@bardic_muse
9 ай бұрын
He wants more web design project that is why
@jzwadlo
Жыл бұрын
great video! only thing i disagree with myself is @6:21 -yes you are right re: income - however everything is relative. If you are making logos or websites for brands worth several 10's or 100's of millsions - then you should be rewarded proportionality. If you're working for smaller businesses then obviously not so much. It's all a matter of scale - But yes I do think putting a 'blanket figure' as to how much someone in the industry should be making is wrong for sure!
@Videosuser
Жыл бұрын
I agree with a few of your points, but there's no much data in your video backing that up. Although there are difficulties in every industry, there are some areas that are growing a lot more than others.
@shawnrobinson8046
Жыл бұрын
Well said. Great video overall. I definitely agree with the pyramid example.
@faizurrahman7791
Жыл бұрын
love the last section about AI, it's just exploring my mind and what a thought ran differently it will happen in the future of AI.
@petergaspar5896
Жыл бұрын
Good thoughts, but in my opinion, people don't fully harness artificial intelligence enough as it is, even though there are numerous possibilities within it.
@morizanova
Жыл бұрын
I kind agree with your opinion about AI , there are lots of potential which not yet fully explored by users . It's only scratch the surfaces
@Optable
Жыл бұрын
Out of the 182 clients I've worked with, 44 of them were paying $185/hr for large segmented brand/front end/continuous projects. The others between $130-$165/hr. Now that has to get spread out between the two of us, but I've also been told by these clients we were extremely cheap. Now, I'm a senior and I can leverage my history over 14 years at large agencies, however it's really the sales and Rfp/Rfq process that will allow you to get good rates and the signed contract to earn them. Don't undervalue, and gather social proof. Our portfolio is honestly not even great. However our data and results are. That's because I've leveraged what I know, what works right away, and how metrics are boosted via correct SEO. And that process is not GPT friendly. While there is a lot of value there, the problem with great SEO for each different client becomes it is never one size fits all, or even close to it. Some things are even the opposite of best practices depending on the client, and some are extremely finicky when it comes to general "add these keywords in this section" stuff. My secret sauce, and what's around that is my point of sale, and the reason my clients continue to come back over the last 4 years. And it includes the use of saved blank. And nothing to do with words or searches! Good luck to all!
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