I would like to suggest that there is a very important use for these $1-$5 yard sale chisels. Someday, someone you know, maybe even someone you love...will grab one of your chisels to scrape some paint off of something or pry something open. This means your "real" chisels must be hidden under lock and key, and these chisels can be strategically placed as decoys. You can also practice your sharpening skills before you start sharpening your "real" chisels.
@thomashverring9484
Жыл бұрын
I have a drawer full of scraping and breaking apart-tools, among them my first cheap chisels, so I'll always be able to supply someone with such a tool without them wrecking my good chisels 😅 But you're absolutely right!
@Svensk7119
8 ай бұрын
Well said.
@brianargo4595
8 ай бұрын
I picked up a super cheap set of harbor freight wood chisels specifically because they're not super hard and easy to sharpen. I use them for scraping old gaskets off of engine blocks. Super easy to flatten and sharpen, and they don't bend like a razor scraper might. Modern "gasket scraper" tools that don't use replaceable razor blades are carbide edged or hardened tool steel. Extra dangerous on aluminum blocks and near impossible to flatten properly.
@OldSneelock
6 ай бұрын
Most definitely a good practice to have a chisel shaped object close to the entrance of your shop. For some reason? People tend to walk in the door and pick up the first thing that looks like it might work and run off hoping to not be seen. I have a set of Harbor Freight screwdrivers hanging on the peg board for just that reason. They do a good job of prying open paint cans, knocking a hole in a tin can with the help of a hammer, and even stir paint fairly well. When found they are either tossed or put back in the rack for the next time someone is creating. 😁😎
@emgriffiths9743
6 ай бұрын
Had a 'contactor' helping with my kitchen renovation last year, he grabbed one of my good chisels from a roll and used the corner to open a paint can, yep it chipped it- his pay was $100 less that day and it was his last day working with me
@fred5480
Жыл бұрын
I would add one more chisel to the daily use set. A chisel you can abuse. I have a Stanley FatMax folding chisel. There is also the "knife chisel" made by various manufacturers (Mora makes a nice one with a belt sheath). I gave my brothers-in-law (a carpenter and a handyman), my son (a carpenter) and nephew (an electrician) one like mine for Christmas. They get used for everything. Small enough to carry like a pocket knife, but you can hit it with any hammer-like object (big adjustable wrench, rock, brick...) and cut rope, open paint cans, and still pare a 1/32" off the corner of a tenon. (I think I could shave with mine if I had to). I used to use an old hardware store 3/4" butt chisel for this stuff that just tucked into my apron. It saves the good ones from abuse. (You know you have thought of it when you have a piece of extension cord to cut...)
@RexKrueger
Жыл бұрын
I have that mora. It never left my side when I had a business where I did actual client work.
@surielmoon
Жыл бұрын
In my region, vintage chisel always so abuse that not only they slighly bent, also bevel shape so bad feel waste time to fix it. I also still grab one or two time by time when I saw some mediocore codition one. they are good for abuse. expecially when dealing reclaim wood.
@captbeardy
Жыл бұрын
I have a Mora knife chisel on my quiver belt because it’s study and more versatile when I have to dig arrows out of trees! I’ve bent a multi tool chisel and I really don’t want to cart a big ass knife around, so it’s ideal.
@rveader
Жыл бұрын
I keep the mora and a beater plastic 3/4 Stanley that I feel fine striking with a claw hammer in my go to bag. I may grind a sharp edge onto one of my 6in1 screwdrivers for those tiny-chisel times so I don't have to run to the woodworking bench...
@grumblycurmudgeon
Жыл бұрын
Seconded. _THOSE_ are what I call "Bench Chisels". As in, "they live in the bench's tool holder instead of a foam insert in a drawer."
@deciospereira
19 күн бұрын
Writing from Portugal. Probably you already know this. In Portuguese language, a chisel is called "formão". Now it makes sense - it's like the firmer chisel. In Portuguese language, to form is "formar", hence "formão". Learnt something I wasn't expecting to learn today. Thanks!
@Pocketfarmer1
Жыл бұрын
Try building or refitting a wooden boat somewhere over 35’ in length. You would end up using most of those chisels. The large framing chisels for the backbone down to the smallest for the cabinetry on the interior . High end boatwrights use skills from logger, sawyer timber framer to fine cabinet maker , all to the specs of a luthier.
@jerbear7952
5 ай бұрын
Yup comes up all the time for most people :)
@schulme123
Ай бұрын
Very interesting and agreed!
@obfuscated3090
12 күн бұрын
There are nearly zero people people who build serious wooden boats but it's certainly fun to watch.
@Xelbiuj
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you do more chisel restores. That big timber chisel would be a great showpiece once polished out, plus maybe encourage you to. . . I dunno, build a log cabin or something lol.
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
I have a big timber framing slick chisel and I use it sometimes. Like Rex said sometimes you just need a really big chisel. I just used it to define scribe lines of a pocket I was cutting for a hone stone holder.
@chuckgrumble5440
Жыл бұрын
Usu Nomi are good for slice
@neilstutely3147
Жыл бұрын
I've been in the furniture trade for years and have accumulated so many chisels, but I only use two most of the time. A marples spilter proof 1' 1/2" and an Ash handled vintage 1/2" chisel.
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
When I'm really going at it I'll use two about the same size. One that I hammer on and one I pare with. Then I don't have to sharpen as often. Hammering takes the keen out of an edge quickly for me.
@jsmxwll
Жыл бұрын
I got some old socket chisels for free when I was a teen. They were all mushroomed like that, so I heated them up with a torch and coffee can forge. I used a 3lb mash hammer and a chunk of scrap steel as an anvil and turned them into tang chisels. There was probably a fair bit of filing involved too. Those were my only set of chisels for probably a decade. So if you find a set you like and want to make them your own, don't be afraid to experiment and expand your skill set. It might be easier than you think. I also feel I would be remiss if I didn't recommend the Narex unhandled chisels. They are very affordable and come with everything you need but the wood. You can make whatever handle style you want. Getting them in stock can be a bit luck based though.
@edwardvermillion8807
Жыл бұрын
i was thinking along those lines, too, although i've never actually done that. was wondering about welding on a piece of rod in what's left of the socket, leaving the flattened 'tang' part on the chisel, then sharpening the rod and driving a piece of wood on it.
@jsmxwll
Жыл бұрын
@@edwardvermillion8807 Never done it myself, but you're pretty much doing the same thing. As long as the weld penetration is good, then it should be fine. I had some juggling to do with heating the socket and not overheating and losing the hardness in the blade. I'd guess welding will have less of an issue with that.
@jdenslinger
Жыл бұрын
I, weirdly, have a bunch of tools, antique and brand new, that I've not used. Some of it is just too neat to not have. Some, I've got "plans" for loool. Every time I clean out the garage to set up my wood shop... something happens and I don't have time for it, and by the time I do... I get to spend that time cleaning out the garage again >_>
@RexKrueger
Жыл бұрын
Been there. Worked in MANY garages before this channel existed.
@bigoldgrizzly
Жыл бұрын
Over 30 years going to car boot sales every week means I am always one [or two] shed behind where I need to be to store it all .... maybe this summer.......
@jerbear7952
5 ай бұрын
Some people just like buying tools and planning. Fairly common
@peterbaum1823
Ай бұрын
As someone once told me about owning tools you don't need, "It's the Thrill Of Possession".
@timkaiser8149
Жыл бұрын
I have so many nice vintage chisels. And so many that aren't nice. This was a really helpful video to help me identify and categorize them while I figure out which to restore and put into use. Thanks as always Rex!
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of chisels I picked up here and there. I'm still looking for nicer ones all the time though. You really don't need that many chisels to woodwork with. I'd say Rex was pretty spot on with assortment he showed. 5 or 6 does the job.
@Knotobe
Жыл бұрын
I would think that the big thick framing chisel is, instead, a small slick chisel. It is used as a plane and when started the weight allows it to continue with ease. It is usually used in boat building.
@scotthewes2431
Жыл бұрын
By the way Rex I remember you got a set of chisels from I think Amazon for like 19 bucks and you made your own handles for them. I remember you saying they seemed like great chisels and you intended to use them a lot and let your viewers know how the faired over the long term. You may not have completed your final assessment or you did and have not yet made a video. I’d love to know how they worked out. Thanks.
@RexKrueger
Жыл бұрын
I used them for months. They're nice for the money.
@keithhaycraft3765
Жыл бұрын
An Australian Wood Butcher here.. I was taught that bevel edged chisels were for softwoods and the Firmer chisels were for use on hardwoods. Our hardwoods here are very hard so they require a stronger chisel.
@riccardo-964
Жыл бұрын
You could use those large chisels for breaking large chunks of wood with the grain, or to help other chip breakers
@chetfishmt
Жыл бұрын
Narex chisels are awesome. The Richter set is totally worth the money. They also make paring chisels and other specialty chisels. Some of the best I've found for the money.
@FreeOfFantasy
Жыл бұрын
The sash chisel looks like it could have been used as a turning tool. Like a skew chisel.
@OldSneelock
Жыл бұрын
Well done Rex. My chisel selection is eclectic. Based loosely on what was available at the time I was looking. I started serious wood working in the early 90's when I began restoring the farm buildings at the farm we purchased. Timber framing was needed for the structure so I began looking for broadaxes and large mortising tools. Auger bits for large stock removal and timber framing chisels capable of knocking out a 2" wide mortice. I actually used my corner chisel. It is a real bear to sharpen. 😁😎 Now I live in a suburban ranch house with a 2 car garage, a basement shop, a blacksmith shop, and about 100 more chisels than I will ever use. Most are fun restoration projects left over from a run of YT videos.
@kennethleitner1337
Жыл бұрын
While Butt chisels are designed for a specific purpose, they can be very useful (especially for aging hands) when cutting dovetails: smaller, easier to hold and maintain vertical control. Not their 'intended purpose', but nonetheless effective. Unless you habitually cut many different size dovetails, you can get by with only two - one for narrow pins and a second for wider tails.
@thomashverring9484
Жыл бұрын
I use mine for detail work, and cleaning out a dovetail or adjusting it is just a job for a butt chisel.
@clutions
Жыл бұрын
Rex --- Call me old fashioned, but I find all of the different styles very USEFUL. --- For their particular purpose. I have a nice set of NAREX and junk drawer full of old nameless "Bench" chisels but I find I use the useless vintage chisels the most. Most will take a better edge easier the the newer one! --- Just my 2 cents!
@Tool-Meister
Жыл бұрын
Nicely done Rex. You just keep getting better. FYI, according to Wikipedia, the woodcocks are a group of seven or eight very similar living species of wading birds in the genus Scolopax. The genus name is Latin for a snipe or woodcock, and until around 1800 was used to refer to a variety of waders. The English name its first recorded in about 1050. According to the Harleian Miscellany, a group of woodcocks is called a "fall". Cocker Spaniels we’re originally bred to hunt woodcocks. Enjoy…
@bl4cksp1d3r
Ай бұрын
I have a set of chisels from my dad, with a bunch of curved ones. And then one 2 inch chisel and one 2/16th chisel i needed once, and ever since use it for very fine works like fitting a handle
@onbedoeldekut1515
Жыл бұрын
I've been working with some red oak that I salvaged from an old bank! It's the densest wood I've ever worked with, it's very unforgiving if you're off half a degree with a drill! But it's sooooo nice to be worked with chisels and carving tools, it just takes patience and a steady hand.
@martinrwolfe
Жыл бұрын
Some of those unrecoverable socket chisels could be repourposed as the iron for a plane just take a hacksaw to them and cut of the socket.
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
Yeah or they can be heated up and the socket can be reforged.
@morganramstedt888
Жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred Yes. If you are a bit of a blacksmith and have some basic tools they should be easy to fix. A "pro" tip is to quickly heat the work area with a welding torch and have the rest of the chisel stuck in a big potato. Helps with keeping the hardened parts cool.
@tuppybrill4915
Жыл бұрын
In the UK we have a charity called Tools With a Mission that collects unwanted tools, refurbishes them, makes them up into e.g. carpentry sets, ships them to their contacts in certain countries in Africa where people are trained in e.g. carpentry and then given a set of tools to set themselves up in business and earn a living. I am thinking Rex that you could encourage something like that in the US with tools going to say Guatemala (I was talking to someone from there about such an idea recently) - go on, put those unused tools to work.
@trappenweisseguy27
Жыл бұрын
The Eskilstuna chisels from Sweden from the 50’s and 60’s are the way to go.
@crichtonbruce4329
Жыл бұрын
I have only one of them and it is a true joy to use.
@trappenweisseguy27
Жыл бұрын
My father bought a few in the 50’s and I inherited them 🙂. I also have a German “Ulmia” brand chisel I bought new about 35 years ago with a hornbeam handle and it takes a very, very good edge. Has “Span saage” stamped on the back.
@kentonward97
Жыл бұрын
I bought a set of Sorby bench chisels over 20 years ago that have beautiful octagon beech handles. The only others I bought was a set of mortise chisels after making mortises with the bench chisels and struggling to keep the chisel from twisting. I agree though that there are so many custom old woodworking tools out there that if your a tool junkie like I am I have to avoid the tool temptations of tools I think are cool but I can never use! Lol
@philippboetcher9959
Жыл бұрын
Sorbys are great!!!
@mannurse7421
9 күн бұрын
lol I always 1:03 buy the tools I never even seen before ! And I still don’t know what they do ! But I’m glad I bought it in case I need it!
@fcschoenthal
Жыл бұрын
I think I've got 4 sets of chisels. I started with a set of Marples (when they were quality), and added a beater set with plastic handles that I don't think I've ever sharpened because they don't need to be. I then got a set of the Wood River chisels and sharpened them at 17° for use on soft woods. About 6 months ago when Taylor Tools had the Narex Richter on sale, I bought that set, which are now my daily users. I'll loan out my beaters or Marples depending on who's asking, but don't touch the ones that I use regularly. I also splurged on some of the other Narex models (mortise and skew) in case I ever need them and they look good on the wall. - Chris
@BenjaminMellor
Жыл бұрын
All I have are a few chisels from Harbor Freight, and they're very cheap. They've worked pretty well, but I've also not done very much with them.
@jerrybrown1446
Жыл бұрын
The Harbor Freight chisels with the yellow handles are really good for the price. I use them for paring because it’s easy to get them super sharp. They don’t like to be hit very hard, though.
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
@@jerrybrown1446 Unless they have steel caps you shouldn't be beating bench chisels too hard. You shouldn't be striking them with steel hammers really. I use a plastic faced hammer myself. Some like those round wooden carving mallets. That just looks like a disaster to me.
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
Жыл бұрын
I earned my living with vintage chisels for quite a few years. The socketed construction allows them to be driven hard with a mallet. My big framing chisels were great for big mortise and tenon joints. I also have fine paring chisels and it’s all about knowing which one to use and keeping them like razors. Some linseed oil keeps them fitting the sockets. The gooseneck chisel you showed is great for deep lock mortising and finishing the back cut. I even used my 4” wide Swann shipwright’s slick surprisingly often. The 3/16 Woodcock chisel would be great for flicking out waste while inletting a gun stock. You’ve got a very nice selection there! 👍🏻
@wwtrkr3189
2 ай бұрын
I bought the Richter's. But I only bought the set of 4, so there's plenty of scope to hunt down vintage stuff to flesh out the collection. Perfect combination. 😊😊
@daveturnbull7221
Жыл бұрын
Over the years I've bought loads of old chisels. Some because I just liked the look of them, some because they looked like I could get some use out of them and some simply because I wanted the metal.
@walterrider9600
Жыл бұрын
thank you Rex. my back ground is a Navy trained machinist ( machinery repairman ) i did my 4 yrs on a sub-tender so learned alot about metals. here is the thing steel gets micro fractures as it ages . cast iron work new or old as it works hardens . i do not recommend old steel . just my experience.
@woodworksbygrampies1284
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service Walter! 👊
@walterrider9600
Жыл бұрын
@@woodworksbygrampies1284 you are welcome
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
I have a lot of old tools and some of that steel is pretty good.
@Cecil_X
Жыл бұрын
I have a left and right skew chisel, which I use more than I thought I would.
@murphymmc
Жыл бұрын
" The handle is too long".....cut it down to what you like. Dovetail chisel? Yep it's a real thing. I think you missed the point on some of the big, blocky chisels used by timber framers, but then, you make furniture so you would not need them. Mortising chisels were designed to not only be very robust for prying out waste wood, but also as a guide for mortise width. Different widths called for the chisel that fits. Japanese chisels, used for a lot of things. Typically have a shorter handle, is good for paring as well as striking. Buy them used with the makers stamp, you can't afford new ones.
@wdtaut5650
Ай бұрын
Years ago, I found a 1/2" paring chisel at a flea market. All I can make out of the maker's mark is an anvil with "Riverside" across the anvil. This chisel is an absolute joy to use for its intended purpose.
@somebodypeculiar
3 ай бұрын
Veering off in another direction. . . In all the hand tool word working videos I've watched I've never seen anyone advocate for using a brace and bit to drill holes. When I was a kid my father had just three drills in his workshop. A brace, with a set of auger bits with the tapered square shank they take, an egg-beater style that would take up to about a quarter inch or so round shank, and a monstrous half inch electric drill that weighed a ton and turned very slowly. The brace was the only one that was a pleasure to use. I was taught early on to stop when the spur point first poked out the other side, then use that hole to guide the bit to finish from the other side. You really had a feel for how the wood was being cut. The sharp leading outer edges would cut a beautifully clean hole without splintering. This came to mind when a link I'd saved to a 13-piece auger bit set for a hand brace no longer worked.
@therealzilch
Жыл бұрын
Another great video, thanks. As a musical instrumentmaker, I end up having to make a lot of my own chisels, to get into particular spaces. Most of them are pretty small, and I usually make them of old drill bits, heated up and pounded flat, and then ground to shape. Works great and is very satisfying work. cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott
@karlrovey
Жыл бұрын
That's not a surprise. Organ builders tend to fabricate their own tuning knives as well.
@MrCoolAttitude
Жыл бұрын
I'm always envious of countries with such a variety of tools from all eras. Over here it's only chinese brands like ingco. Works well but would def love owning some heritage tools.
@RFMongoose
8 ай бұрын
You didn't mention this about lands, but I got some fancy Japanese dovetail chisels a while back. They do not have lands, and using them to pair (pear?) Away material... The edges will slice up my hands.
@jas20per
Жыл бұрын
That 3/16 inch chisel I know that type of chisel as a key hole chisel in the UK from past times Victorian Edwardian era. some doors had just a lock fitted to the rear of the door with just a slide key hole cover at the front of the door. In some cases the door may be 2 to 21/2 thick so requiring a long thin key hole slot
@stevesteve6545
Жыл бұрын
The skinny little chisel may well be for plane making or similar, there’s a need to get in the mouth at the bottom of a moulding plane escapement for example, to pare the “blind side” of the escapement. Or many other wooden toolmaking uses. BTW great videos Rex, keep them coming.
@pedroclaro7822
6 ай бұрын
Socket chisels are easier to make handles for, unlike tang ones. Important if you don’t have a power drill or the metal rings to stop the wood from splitting
@boatbeard7767
Жыл бұрын
It's a box mortise chisel 13:20. Used for the deep thin hole chiseled out of a box or chest front top rail to drop the lock mechanism into... There is another one that is hooked, for reaching a bit around the corner and for cleaning up the bottom for mechanism clearances.
@reannejarvis9464
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I picked one up here in Tasmania. No one could tell me what it was for. Now I know.
@philippboetcher9959
Жыл бұрын
I still think vintage Marples and Sorby chisels is by far the best you can get for your money. I have a couple of Ashley Isles which are amazing but also really expensive. I would definitely get some really narrow chisels as well, like 3mm, 6mm...
@amezcuaist
Жыл бұрын
Well said about Sorby and Marples. One or two old Sheffield makers were a disappointment . Colonel and also Toga always got a long messy bur when sharpening .The edge never lasted very long . A Mathiesen blade (excellent) would have a micro thin bur during sharpening . For me the best are Brades .
@Kufunninapuh
7 ай бұрын
I love a butt chisel for pairing dovetails and chamfering en grain. I would really recommend a 30 ish mm Japanese style chisel for the same kind of work. Doesn't have to be very fancy or expensive but being able to get your fingers really close the cutting edge makes a world of difference.
@clemmcguinness1087
Жыл бұрын
Have a shufty at bill carter #26 & #37 blunt chisel for very good uses for all of those. I take the point you make, but an old sheffield deliberately blunted is extraordinary for hdwood paring
@eklypse69
10 ай бұрын
As a guitar builder, the 3/16" and 1/8" chisels are definitely useful in some of the small, tight spaces like pickup and neck pocket corners and truss rod channels.
@onbedoeldekut1515
Жыл бұрын
Because (as you said) the necks of the socket chisels are unhardened steel, you should be able to bring them up to heat and reshape with a blowtorch and a hard wood anvil point (if you don't have an anvil).
@svanclee
Жыл бұрын
I bought some years ago new narex chisels in a kind of Home Depot ( Hornbach ) in Czech Republic, price was a lot less there. When you take a holiday , you know what to buy for a souvenir.
@jbratt
6 ай бұрын
The little 1/8” chisel is nice because it sharpens so quickly and works well to get splinters out of your fingers.
@marcuszukas8171
Жыл бұрын
So your a tool junkie as are so many cabinet makers carpenters and engineers. Basically there are no bad tools only tools used badly Keep up the good work
@CJCWoodWorking
Жыл бұрын
I bought a small set of the Narex Richter chisels (1/4, 1/2, 3/4, 1 inch) and I am amazed by them. The previous chisels i had before were Husky brand (same dimensions as narex) from Home Depot. One of the Narex was the same price as the entire Husky set...so it was big difference. Now the Husky are used just to bash the majority of the wood away and the Narex are used just for the finer finishing. I know i don't have to do that since they are built much much better. Both sets are sharpened the same way as well. I use the lapping film method. In a couple of days i'm going to an antique shop to check out a couple of chisels there and also buy a Stanley #5 Plane for $40...needs some serious work to make functional again.
@Andre_the_Lion
Жыл бұрын
I suspect that one with the funny angle was ground to be used as a skew chisel for lathe work.
@ahill209
Жыл бұрын
I have expensive and inexpensive chisels. I'm not as much a minimalist like you, Rex. One caution about vintage chisels is that you really don't know if the temper is still good. So many of those chisels were used by farmers and other folks who used a grinder to sharpen them, and eventually they'd overheat them. The temper can restored, but sometimes if you don't know what you're doing, you can ruin the steel. There are probably a dozen brands of vintage chisels which have excellent steel. You don't have to spend a fortune on finding a Stanley 750 to get a good vintage chisel. One other note is it's a lot easier to create a new handle for a tanged chisel than a socket chisel. One chisel I have that comes in very handy is a 2 inch butt chisel. It's very handy for paring large surfaces like tenon shoulders. Also, in your illustration of using a paring chisel for cleaning out the sides of a dado, I'd prefer to either use a router plane or turn the chisel upside down to avoid the bevel digging into the bottom of the groove. Maybe not so much an issue if the chisel is held flat to the bottom of the dado.
@sincerelyyours7538
Жыл бұрын
There are also the Japanese oire nomi chisels, or "spoon" chisels as I call them due to their hollow ground shape. They are short, tanged and hollow-ground on the bottom to make flattening on water stones easier. The hollow-grind also reduces friction in the cut as there's less metal to wood contact. The blade is hard to fit in most western honing guides, but once sharpened they hold an edge well. Popular with carpenters, they make good all-purpose mortising chisels. I bought a bunch of them when I moved to Japan but really only use two of them, 15mm and 25mm.
@krazytroutcatcher
Жыл бұрын
I dropped on a collection of woodworking tools, which included around 25 various chisels. I polished off the the surface rust, and give them all a Polish with linseed oil till I could around to sharpening them. That was two years ago. I literally caught a new home owner throwing them into a skip (dumpster?) So I offered to buy them, and they said I could have them for free, but if I wanted the rest, I’d have to retrieve the rest from the skip. I’m not a woodworker, though I did do a little many years ago, but what I am is an engineer, and have a passion for tools regardless of their discipline, so for me, those woodworking tools were very much worth saving, including the 1960’s Black and Decker drill I also acquired.
@tomware9448
4 ай бұрын
It is so easy to become enamored with vintage tools but learn after a while to apply some common sense. Unfortunately doesn’t happen over night.
@budmartin8297
Жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree that any of those beaten socket chisels were too far gone. I've refurbished much worse, but I enjoy the challenge. If you're only coming from a users point of view, then yes, it may not seem worth the extra effort to you. I feel that I'm restoring the dignity to the old beat up tools that are usually very cheep. I do value your opinion as an experienced tool user. Thanks for sharing.
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
I get where you're coming from and I do the same myself but I can relate to what Rex is saying. He has enough chisels to work with now so he really doesn't have to spend any time on those basket cases he has.
@markbernier8434
Жыл бұрын
"Big timber framing chisel" chuckles. Still looking for a good used chain mortiser. Thing with estates is often buying a crate for $20. Worth $10 as short steel scrap but one good item makes it a win.
@marcslonik5096
10 ай бұрын
Great video as always. Thank you Rex. Recently I started feeling guilty about the content of my flea market chisels box and so I kicked off a mass-restoration project. I'm probably still never going to use them, but bringing tools back to their former glory is so rewarding. BTW. I actually found a god use for a very narrow (3mm and 4mm in my case) mortise chisels. When doing kumiko style work - it's good to have a mortise chisel matching the thickness of the wood strips you are using. That way you can make slots for a nice fit, very efficiently.
@kennethbosley1915
7 ай бұрын
Rex, at 11:40 you showed a socket chisel. This is usually refered to as a "Slick." Try putting a 24" to 30" handle on it and then use it to frame a log cabin, or to shape timber preparing the joinery area for a particular joint.
@tellthemborissentyou
Жыл бұрын
The handiest tool to own is an old chisel. One you don't care about. You can use it to remove nails, jemmy stuck things and scrape any surface. You can beat on them with a claw hammer or drop them on the floor. Best of all they never need sharpening, you just hit them harder.
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
I keep my beater chisels pretty sharp. If I need something dull then I use a cold chisel or a pry bar.
@WHITTONZ
Жыл бұрын
here in the UK finding old chisels "made in Sheffield" are well worth buying, no matter what shape they are. Sheffield steel has a reputation of high quality and once sharpened they retain an edge for ages. I'm sure the US has similar excellent brands to look out for. Comments welcomed.
@amezcuaist
Жыл бұрын
My favourite old Sheffield chisels are Brades, Marples , Sorby ,Tyzack , Hildick . They are like the Royal Family of Sheffield tools. The old Wood plane irons can be converted to metal planes by filing open the mouths . Learn how to make new handles that are more comfortable .
@jacqdanieles
Жыл бұрын
Sheffield-made steel -- knives, tools, cutlery -- was legendary.
@jugglinglivebabies
Жыл бұрын
for me, if a tool has a combination of brass and wood, i'm hooked. i have more vintage squares than i'm comfortable admitting.
@jerbear7952
5 ай бұрын
The makers know we are suckered for it. It's why they do it :)
@woodshopsquared3183
Жыл бұрын
So many useful things you can do with extra chisels. Google blunt edge chisel for doing things like forming the grooves on saw handles. Grinding one a very steep bevel for paring pine.
@crichtonbruce4329
Жыл бұрын
I live in Northern Ontario, Canada and high quality old tools are rare. There is also what I term the: "Antiques Roadshow" effect where anything old is greatly overpriced as people believe anything "Vintage" MUST be worth a fortune.
@SunAlucard
Жыл бұрын
That last chisel is a scribe, its used for carving patterns.
@mm9773
Жыл бұрын
It really is all about personal preference. I read through some of the comments and saw that many have had a similar experience as I’ve had: a while ago I bought a few chisels by MHG and I just really like them, haven’t thought about chisels since. (Later I found out that they also made the ALDI chisels that Paul Sellers raved about and still uses, just fyi). Edge retention? Couldn’t tell you - I think it’s really good, but what do I know? I don’t use chisels often enough to worry about that; I hate sharpening, but it doesn’t make one lick of a difference whether I have to sharpen them after X amount of time or X + Y amount of time. They feel great in my hand and that’s all there is to it.
@QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa
Жыл бұрын
I know some people they will use a socket chisel without wood handle as a mason chisel in their garden, and totally mess up its sock and edge.
@kenchilton
Жыл бұрын
Those are small timber chisels. Mine are much larger. I do use a separate set of paring chisels in addition to the bench set. The paring chisels have a lower bevel, which make them cut easier when pushed. They are also a different tool steel which sharpens faster, because you need to touch them up after almost every project. But when it comes to perfecting a dovetail, they make the work fast, easy, and high quality. I not only like Lie-Nielson, but also Blue Spruce Toolworks. I tend to use the LN planes and bench chisels, but the Blue paring chisels in the shop. I have a set of Stanley socket chisels I keep in my toolbox. I get them out if I am mid project and don’t want to take the time to stop and reshapen the bench one. Although the Stanleys are vintage and cost me one tenth the LNs, it always feels like I went to the cellar and pulled out a bottle of fine Port wine when I get one out.
@clydedecker765
Жыл бұрын
Personally, I'd love to have a set of good PARING chisels with bent handles for cleaning out longer grooves and a couple of pig stickers for mortising. The 3/16 is for making the walls (grooves/beds) in wooden planes for chisels or blades to ride in for adjustment. Common in Japanese planes (Kanas)
@pleappleappleap
Жыл бұрын
I just bought a set of Grebstks a couple years ago, and they've done everything I need.
@What_Other_Hobbies
Жыл бұрын
I also have a bunch of chisels that I have never used.
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have tools I don't need than need tools I don't have.
@travisstine5146
3 ай бұрын
Rex - I've had the same personal complaints about the Narex Richters too. Doing something fine, like cutting chopping waste from dovetails for 4 hours, puts a cramp in my hand. I choke up on the blade to position during fine work and the weight at the end of the chisels long lever arm adds cumulative strain to the small muscles in my hands. It's also really awkward to have your mallet so much farther from where your focusing your attention. Sockets have felt much more natural in the past, but im thinking about trying fine butt chisels now.
@ClintsHobbiesDIY
Жыл бұрын
I have a weakness for such. It's best I stay at home away from yard sales and flea markets. Antique shop prices must mean they only made one.
@alandesgrange9703
Жыл бұрын
Antique stores are for rookies when it comes to buying this stuff.
@ClintsHobbiesDIY
Жыл бұрын
@@alandesgrange9703 So you are implying I'm a rookie?
@alandesgrange9703
Жыл бұрын
@@ClintsHobbiesDIY No. The opposite.
@ClintsHobbiesDIY
Жыл бұрын
@@alandesgrange9703 👍👍 My wife likes antique shops and every once in a while, I'll find a decent deal.
@colinmartin9797
Жыл бұрын
I remember buying a narex 3mm cabinet maker chisel because I first had to make my own out of a flat head screwdriver shaft on the bench grinder and heat treating the shaft to get some kind of edge retention. That little guy did a job I needed so well that I found it justified buying a tool. I don't use it often but I really don't want to use that screwdriver again. I like having two sets, some japanese cheap chisels that get wicked sharp but are brittle and prone to chip, and my irwin marples set that you covered on your channel years ago before he went off the deep end of politics. Those old irwins honestly do most of the heavy lifting in my chisel woodworking. I love that set, 3 chisels and a mallet for like $25 and it's never put a foot wrong.
@ryandavis7593
Жыл бұрын
The Marplels Vlue Chip chisels are affordable and incredibly tough. They stay sharp and are comfortable. I sincerely use nothing else.
@normanbott
6 ай бұрын
In the UK, firmer = mortice. Use a non-bevelled chisel if hand chopping a mortice, I was told.
@eddieahara6605
6 ай бұрын
I'm only an old woodwork teacher and I've heard this in my 43 years of teaching this subject. Almost as bad as the mortise being chopped out working towards yourself!
@JaspisB
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are great and I have been following for a long while, love the new toolmaking company, but man you need to upgrade your mic setup. It sounds and weird mix of sharp and very muffled.
@davidstewart1153
Жыл бұрын
I ground the tip of a cheap 3/4" chisel to a 90 degree bevel, useful as a scraper. I find the smaller mortise chisels useful for lots of weird jobs, like modifying a biscuit joiner slot. Since you can find every possible opinion on firmers vs bevel, socket vs. tang, long vs. short, just buying all types lets you decide yourself. Making your own handles is a little work but rewarding.
@dwainlambrigger3769
Жыл бұрын
Rex! A couple of things... First, love this video. One of your best! I got so much out of it, so thanks for putting it out there. Second, I live in Phoenix, AZ. Yard sales that sell anything other than kids clothes, crappy IKEA furniture and old golf clubs are rare... That being said, SEND ME A PRICE FOR THAT 1 1/4 INCH CHISEL!!! Please. I'm 6'6" and a Big Mac away from 280. I can handle the weight! I promise. I even have some handles turned. Anyway, even if you don't want to sell, that's fine. I do really appreciate you and the content you put out there. I enjoy it every week. Thanks again!
@dwainlambrigger3769
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, I wasn't joking about wanting the chisel...
@PetCactusA_HarmlessLittlePrick
Жыл бұрын
The 3/16" Woodcock chisel is _probably_ for making lock mortises.
@bigoldgrizzly
Жыл бұрын
You have not lived till you have banged out big timber frame mortices with a 1 1/2" pig sticker ;
@johnbesharian9965
Жыл бұрын
Whoah! "As I tell her, it's a cheaper hobby than chasing mucky women ;
@bigoldgrizzly
Жыл бұрын
@@johnbesharian9965 .... and that is how we've clocked up over well over 40 years married without even one proper row, both recognising when to give ground and when to hold it. As you hint, I may be ancient but can still enjoy the sight of a bonny lass.
@obfuscated3090
Жыл бұрын
I use chisels like that for gasket scrapers after a quick sharpening. They're rigid and work well.
@michaelthys4000
Жыл бұрын
You seam to like the celectic style. That's cool! My Ocd likes things to be in sets. You could easily collect and put together sets and clean them up and sell them. As if you don't have enough ideas and things to do with all that free time. Lol. Another great video thanks Rex!
@FrederSnorlax
Жыл бұрын
Unrelated to chisels: i bought a few old vintage planes not realizing they are missing parts. Tried to combine them into working planes. So far its not going well. Also i still cannot cut a square cut with a saw. I am incredibly bad at this. Love the channel! Bought your book!
@morganramstedt888
Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. Practice will get you there. All good wood workers have a huge pile of failures. The planes can be really hard to fix. The most important bit is to find out if the blade actually fits the body. On wood planes the body and wedge was made to fit the individual blade. On more modern planes, wood and metal, it's often easier.
@wouterengels7769
Жыл бұрын
Thank for a great video Rex. +1 on the Richters. I used to use some from a normal hardware store, because they fit my hand ok, but they had the stronger edges and I didn't really like them. The Richters fit my hand really well ( personal, I know) and they are very well balanced, i.e. the center of gravity is in the right place. Might still get myself a mortising chisel, but now I know what not to buy.
@cristofacar
Жыл бұрын
I bought some chisels and gouges off a joiner who was retiring - he bought them in the 1930s. The steel on those tools was particularly good - it took a good edge, and held it. I had an animated discussion with a metallurgist who came into my shop. He was adament that modern tool steel was better than the old stuff because the whole steel-making process is very precisely controlled. The guys in the old days had to judge the process by eye and sound and how hot it felt. He wasn't a woodworker, so I could not demonstrate how superior the old steel was, but if he had offered me a full set of modern chisels, I would not have swapped them for the old ones - which I still use, BTW!
@peterhague5626
Жыл бұрын
I have a narrow mortice chisel from Narex. A set of bevel edged from Axminster, and a couple of firmer chisels from Ashley Iles. All tang chisels, and I wouldn't be without any of them. I do have a bunch of vintage ones inherited from grandparents, I've just never found a use for them
@pyrokiller4682
Жыл бұрын
I have a cheap set of draper chisels had them for years plastic handles hit with mallets hammers and on the rarest of occasions the back of a hatchet no issues at all my go to is 25mm (1”) I also have a rough neck epoxy handle full tang with strike button newer then the others and the handle is starting to crack. Don’t be anxious of cheap chisels there mostly all made of good hard steel that will hold an edge fine.
@simonmcowan6874
Жыл бұрын
I also use what you call a framing chisel, 1inch and a quarter wide, it's lovely to use, however it was made no later than 1909 very long super quality, as good today as It was when made, hi from Wales 🏴 so glad I've subscribed to you, excellent stuff, very interesting and useful.
@trevorb5978
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Completely accurate. Great recommendations. I have a collection of about 40 chisels and only use less than 10
@jodiwilson3043
Жыл бұрын
I believe the woodcock chisel is for chair cane groves
@jnodidrickson3460
Жыл бұрын
The problem with narex richter is that it is not flat... corners are buffed out and takes a bit of work. Once dialed in it will serve well as paring chisels, get cheap Stanley's or DeWalts for hogging
@patrickstevenson9527
4 ай бұрын
You are really fun. But I'm mad at you! As if I needed another hobby to he interested in! Thanks for all your very good videos!
@markchaplain1152
Жыл бұрын
Great information and well spoken video as usual bud!! Only thing is that in my neck of the woods "vintage" chisels at garage sales and markets start at $10 !!
@rogermiller2159
Жыл бұрын
I use a 2 inch framing chisel without a handle, not as a strategy, just evolved. It fits right in my hand and is just a big hunk of well sharped steel. It’s a tool that spends time on my bench. I also have a few chisels that are so pathetic. One is a 3/4 inch that is the thinnest steel. I cleaned it up and as I grind it flat it curves. Hilarious but used often. Sometimes I need precision, sometimes something pointy or sharp,, or heavy.
@nobuckle40
Жыл бұрын
This is some great info Rex. Thank you. When I first got into hand tool woodworking, I wanted to buy everything. I have found, though, that I don't need everything. I am able to so much with the modest hand tools that I do have, that , when I see tools at the flea markets or antique malls, I just pass them by. I don;t collect tools and so I only buy what I absolutely need. Thanks again for the info.
@MichaelKingsfordGray
Жыл бұрын
I have 3 sets of chisels, for 3 different "grades" of work: An expensive Record set, for fine carpentry, a cheaper set for rough grade work, and a set of what I call "demolishing" chisels, where one could encounter nails embedded in the timber, for very rough work, where damage to the cutting edge is expected, and large impacts are required.
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