I feel bad for any pre med advisor watching this. We don't hate you, we just don't get the motivation we need from you.
@NioshaPrice
4 жыл бұрын
I have personally selected multiple people to advise me because I noticed that my pre-med advisor did not fit my specific situation. She is use to advising certain type of people and it shows.
@saysomethingsmartcomeonent5233
4 жыл бұрын
You ha e no idea how right you are. My pre med advisor to me that since her husband teaches med students she knows what she is talking about and told me I will not get into med school since my chem was not very powerful.
@M16xDr0pSh0tz
4 жыл бұрын
motivation shouldn't be coming from an advisor
@etherealbae2160
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not about motivation. It’s about needing accurate information.
@munnesa1
4 жыл бұрын
@@M16xDr0pSh0tz wish I knew that freshmen year
@Spencer_Thatcher
3 жыл бұрын
My Premed advisor had a Masters in Biomedical Sciences and regularly took the MCAT and Caspr. He also met with the Dean of Admissions at our state medical school regularly. I was pretty fortunate to have an advisor who's education was essentially based on being a premed advisor.
@claireworld_
3 жыл бұрын
wow
@xxxcxxx2253
2 жыл бұрын
That is an amazing professional
@appollo1826
2 жыл бұрын
These are the type of people I like. They go above and beyond to learn the process and stay updated with the process to see how students can really be their best.
@JemimaNguebeyo-Ngouambe
6 ай бұрын
what college you went to
@MedSchoolInsiders
4 жыл бұрын
Good luck everyone and thanks for watching! And yes, all the examples I listed in the video were based on real conversations I had with a dozen different premed advisors.
@buffalostreeter
4 жыл бұрын
For someone complaining about an entire field of workers being underprepared and lacking the ability to provide research based information, you sure went all in on making claims without any valid research methods of your own. I know not every advisor is good at their job, but neither is every doctor. I sure won't be making a video called "doctors are lying to you" making broad claims about all just on conversations with a few of them.
@alexh5269
4 жыл бұрын
@@buffalostreeter I kind of agree with you... A video criticizing premed advisors using anecdotal evidence to give advice based on anecdotal conversations with premed advisors at unnamed schools...the premed advisor at my school was actually very good and there is nuance to this topic.
@SG-gw5xo
4 жыл бұрын
Had my college's pre-med advisor look at my scholarship essay - didn't even spot a few grammar error. Can't answer a lot of my med school application related questions (very generic questions) I think maybe she was hired because she was principle's relative?😂😂😂
@XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
4 жыл бұрын
My pre-med advisor literally majored in art history
@samuelegunlusi1017
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@RobertA-bj7ou
4 жыл бұрын
It’s bad that it’s art but the fact that it’s the history of art is a whole new level of useless.
@jimbermelon
3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertA-bj7ou thats not what art history is lol
@jordanlazaro1676
3 жыл бұрын
I know someone who majored in queer studies... she currently works at target and sephora
@artforthepeople8357
3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertA-bj7ou proceeds to fail art, history, and art history
@lucasdavison3272
4 жыл бұрын
#1 thing I love about Dr. Jubbal: my man always tells the truth and doesn’t give a f*** what others think of his honest opinion. We need more people like you Dr. Jubbal.
@marcmat9294
4 жыл бұрын
My premed advisor told me it's better to graduate in four years will subpar grades than spreading my classes out, graduating in an extra semester or two but end up with A's. Yeah right, definitely not listening to her.
@mystique1834
3 жыл бұрын
Worst advice I’ve ever heard
@claireworld_
3 жыл бұрын
so dumb omg! No my friend GPA is the king
@chengalvalavenkata2401
5 ай бұрын
Better to graduate in 4 years but not at the cost of your grades and quality of learning.
@PhilRocks39a
4 жыл бұрын
I just got into an accelerated DO medical program. I know DOs aren’t as noticed as MDs but I think this program is a good fit for me, partly because they have really good faculty and advisors. The advisors have been doing this for a long time and know exactly how to help. I’m nervous, but excited and hopeful. Your channel has been a huge help for me and my parents throughout this process!
@thenightdances21
4 жыл бұрын
Phil Sheridan I had no idea there’s an accelerated Do program! Do you mind sharing the name of your school?
@bryanalfaro6438
4 жыл бұрын
DO's are going to be doing their residenship along MD's so the differences will be even less now
@suzipuzi2001
4 жыл бұрын
Of my many DO colleagues, I can't think of one who wasn't an excellent doctor and delightful colleague
@PhilRocks39a
4 жыл бұрын
thenightdances21 Yours To Lose accelerated medical program. It is at Missouri Southern State University partnered with Kansas City University of Medicine and Biosciences, accepts your to 25 students per year. Waives tuition for the three years of undergrad. You get a bachelors in Biology in the first three years. Every course you take is geared towards the medical field, even the Spanish class focus on patient interaction. I highly advise checking it out. KCU-MB is one of the top DO medical schools and I know several doctors from there that are amazing. Right now there is literally no competition in that program, they interviewed 17 and accepted 16, 2 declined. Minimum ACT is a 28 with a 3.5 gpa I believe. During the summer of second year the students take a trip to Italy to learn about the history behind early medicine as part of a history class. It’s a really cool program that has everything I wanted, best of luck!
@DavidTheBaker
4 жыл бұрын
When's the diss track coming out?
@xsavidou
3 жыл бұрын
Pre-med advisor here and I appreciate this video lol. Have a bachelor's in Biomed and love Med School Insiders videos, so I hope some of us are ultimately better examples of pre-med advisors! Overall though, agreed that there are a lot of misconceptions in advising unfortunately.
@shivanishastri4285
4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to major choosing, here is something I realized 1. Bio major: typical major, cookie cutter when getting into med school, but will understand med school content 2. Biomed major: same, but will have greater familiarity with med school content. Downside could be lower grades as it can be challenging. However, the upside I have personally seen is the excellent connections with likeminded students. (You get all the latest inside news though). It can prepare you for back ups such as optometry in case medical school does not work out. 3. Non-science major: uniqueness which will help a candidate stand out from the applicant pool, however there would be less familiarity with med school content unless they focus on their own. Depending on the difficulty of major, it can definitely help increase one’s GPA. 4. Engineering major: I heard they do well on the MCAT, could help them stand out from other majors in the applicant pool, but since it’s a more challenging major, there’s a chance for a lower GPA than the rest of the applicant pool. If one knows how to be an good engineer, they can start making money before med school or pursue engineering if nothing else works. 6. Health science major: I was a health science major. Lab technology to be specific. Low GPA due to the challenge but provided a back up health science related career in case med school didn’t work. The upside is having a career with a bachelor’s degree and also understanding diseases from a clinical perspective. If anyone wants to add anything, feel free to do so. ☺️
@KawaiiPotatoYT
4 жыл бұрын
This is super helpful! Thank you so much. I’m a struggling pre-med student right now.
@HeinzeC1
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like most of the pre-meds I've encountered thus far are chemistry majors, I'm not sure why this is though. There seem to be many chem majors going into pharmacy as well. It also seems like other kids going the biology route are more interesting in PA and Nursing for some reason even with our more related health science majors. I'm also a math minor in addition to my biology major and looking at MCAT results it appears math majors score the best in many categories, but I think this is due to the critical thinking skills developed and not necessarily specific things learned in undergrad. Plus, nobody is going to turn down a candidate because they are good at math, who wouldn't want one of them around.
@shivanishastri4285
4 жыл бұрын
Carson Heinze I can confirm my math skills DID help me during the MCAT. It’s a timed test, and I found shortcuts that I bet others didn’t. So yes, good for you. Keep it up.
@shivanishastri4285
4 жыл бұрын
Kawaii Potato Absolutely. Keep an open mind there’s always more than this list. For example; my former coworker is a bioengineering major, but didn’t want to reveal his GPA.
@shivanishastri4285
4 жыл бұрын
Zhanè Washington minors can definitely help enhance an application. If your major or minor is Spanish, it can help you stand out as a multi-lingual and give you a little more access to underserved Spanish-speaking communities. Many medical schools seek a candidate with cultural sensitivity and experience with underserved communities. You being able to speak Spanish and communicate with those who aren’t fluent English speakers can mean a lot to many schools. However if your minor is negatively impacting your GPA, it is best not to have one at all! Unless if your school absolutely requires it.
@renee6989
4 жыл бұрын
After being in medical school, my chemistry degree helped me in maybe 2? 3? subjects Useless. Wish I picked a major that covered metabolism, immunology, and microbiology. These topics are so important.
@suzipuzi2001
4 жыл бұрын
Same here! But I enjoyed chem.
@salinakhan-razzaq9614
4 жыл бұрын
Which majors do you suggest?
@yvefrancois5928
4 жыл бұрын
This is super true! I saw this at my university. It is a huge public university in my state. We have 4 pre-med advisors for over 400 students. 2 of which are part-time and travel between two campuses. Unfortunately, three out of the four give HORRIBLE advise. Most students just ask other 3th and 4th years who are applying in the cycle for advise. It's very unfortunate and I think it can be fixable as long as the advisor does their homework (independently) and is very transparent about the advise. However, I am super blessed to have an adviser that is very transparent about her recommendations for medical school. She is very truthful about the fact that she did not apply to medical school (she has a degree in teaching). She also goes to extreme lengths to find people who are knowledgeable about the med school app process and is not afraid to say that she will get back to us if she does have an answer. (And she always follows up!)
@seandiment8307
4 жыл бұрын
It seems like a lot of you all have negative experiences, but I’ve only had positive experiences with my pre-health advisor. She is all about you majoring in what you want and taking the right classes and gaining clinical experiences. She connects people with clinical research opportunities on campus and in the area, and is really an amazing advocate for students. I think each person should look for certain things in their advisor to help see if they are helpful or worth your time. Blanket statements that they’re all useless isn’t helpful, and building a good relationship with a pre-health advisor can be helpful. I go to George Mason University, not the biggest named school, but she wants her students to succeed.
@j10001
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’re fortunate! There’s a wide range of abilities out there in advisors. Lucky you!
@ManjarithePandicorn
4 жыл бұрын
Good to know people are lookin out for us!
@hannahp7252
4 жыл бұрын
This has actually made me really appreciate my school’s premed advisor! She’s awesome and actually is a epidemiology/public health professor at my school as well.
@hjf3022
4 жыл бұрын
As a medical student in Australia, I had no clue what was going on in this video, and I am thankful for it. That seems like an unnecessarily complicated system.
@sabaalogman7525
4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@virgilmatenoplous
4 жыл бұрын
what's different about med school in Australia?
@jo8980
4 жыл бұрын
@@virgilmatenoplous Essentially nothing. As an Australian medical student I think I can say it is equally as complex as the US system but in different ways.
@gaoxoxo
3 жыл бұрын
My college has no pre-med advisor. I have to do everything myself. My major advisor helps me as much as she can, but she’ll tell me most of the time that she doesn’t know. My doctor is my advisor. She’s so awesome 🥺
@AmandaShawxo
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like no matter what the situation its always good to compare and contrast multiple sources of information. This video outlines some things to look out for, for sure!
@khanhfident
4 жыл бұрын
I like how the eye test chart says "MED INSIDERS" at the bottom, hahaha.
@MedSchoolInsiders
4 жыл бұрын
;) glad someone noticed that
@Kazz1187
4 жыл бұрын
I have been drawn into this video by such a bold-sounding title
@WOG18
4 жыл бұрын
Saw this in my recommended, this ALSO happens for PA school. Advisors have no idea the requirements needed for various schools. They usually just “advise” on getting good grades... it’s sad. I take what they say with a grain of salt and utilize mentors and actual PAs for advice
@coreyjacq
4 жыл бұрын
Loving the videos! I’m going into my first year of undergrad and am finishing up high school and I came across your anki videos a while back. I’ve been using it this semester for bio and kin and my marks have been about 5-6 % higher than my average.
@MedSchoolInsiders
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad!
@SH.17
4 жыл бұрын
“-but if you are a pre med advisor, and were not a fan go ahead and leave a thumbs down” 🤣🤣
@blueq4324
4 жыл бұрын
My premed comittee at my post bacc college gave me a 2/5 even after getting all A's in 54 credits in my DIY postbacc. (3.19 GPA raised to a 3.45). Ridiculous, wish me luck in applying this year guys!
@bryanalfaro6438
4 жыл бұрын
Why tho? Maybe because of stuff other than grades?
@SarahFriedmann-c5p
Жыл бұрын
Your committee used more than just GPA for your rating, right?
@blueq4324
Жыл бұрын
@@SarahFriedmann-c5p all I know is that I'm a 3rd year med student now :) so fk the committee and move on!
@blueq4324
Жыл бұрын
@@bryanalfaro6438 I think it was solely grades, because my extracurriculars were average like everyone else
@ClaireSamuelsVA
3 жыл бұрын
Got an ad for St. George’s med school about how they’re the “number one provider of doctors for US residencies” during the Caribbean med school segment 😂
@nshahtheactor
4 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly so shook. Thank you for for this video!
@philominaadarkwah-yiadom5288
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much.This piece really means a lot to us high school students
@mariaengland5164
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I spent a lot of time doing my own research, and was shocked when I asked for help from the premed advisor on my personal statement. She didn't even know what AMCAS is. How can you advise people when you don't know what the application service is. Love this channel!
@Thugbert0
4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I don't know if you have touched on this during your other videos - but the bias against DOs and Carribean grads are real. I am a US MD. During the 2020 ERAS interview cycle, some of my interview sites didn't interview DOs or Carribean MDs. Keep in mind this is FM too.
@AmbiQueen96
4 жыл бұрын
I’m a pre med major. SUBSCRIBED!
@baileyharvey9300
4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jubbal, I have a few problems with this video. Sure premed advisors with a bachelors degree may not be qualified to give suitable advice for an aspiring physician. However, not all premed advisors were created equal, and it seems that your video lumps all premed advisors into one big group of incompetence when it comes to giving students advice outside of making a premed schedule. My undergrad institution went to great lengths to pick their premed advisors, and I know that I speak for not only my alma mater but other schools as well. When you are getting advised from a the head of the biology department (someone with a doctoral degree) with a great track record of students they advise matriculating into medical school, then you are receiving sound advice. I will give it to you, you did say that there a "nuances within each university", but that statement was tied to scheduling and not to advising students on decisions they need to make outside of drafting a schedule. Again, from my personal experience my premed advisor was adept at giving sound information and they always gave it to me straight up without and sugar coating. I watched a majority of your videos and read many of your blog posts in undergrad, and they definitely helped guide me to medical school. However, I would have been lost without the personal guidance of my premed advisor who helped me without any commission or bonus from a company or the university. I understand that you are running a business, and so the more students that you and your team can advise the more your business profits, and I am not saying that is a bad thing. I am only suggesting that you divulge a little more into the nuances of what makes MOST premed advisors unhelpful, but while others are qualified to shell out advice. I worry that this video will push undergraduate students at my home institution away from seeking advice from our premed advisors (all of whom have a PhD and even one who has an MD/PhD), which I believe would be to their detriment. Again, I understand you have a business to run and the more clients you have the better your business does. However, if you truly want to help students realize their dream of getting into medical school, perhaps you can clarify the distinctions between good and bad premed advisors so that students know who they can trust outside of Med School Insiders. Respectfully, BH
@dktwilight1
4 жыл бұрын
My premed advisor told me to drop out of school and that I wouldn’t get into a medical school or masters program. Let’s just say, I don’t like her for lack of better words
@lauraeager373
3 жыл бұрын
That’s awful! An advisor should meet students where they are at and help them find ways to succeed, not discourage them
@jacklavalae2925
4 жыл бұрын
Kevin - many good points made. You indicated many advisers take too narrow of approach in their recommendations (either this or that, when the reality is much more complicated), but then produced a video that similarly viewed advisors through a very narrow lens. Like anything, advisors fall on a spectrum, as does the advice even the "best" advisers give. I think the best advice to an undergraduate underclassmen who is considering how much to trust an advisor would be to pursue a strong relationship (as it will pay dividends in research opportunities, tutoring if needed, class schedules, a letter of recommendation, a long-term friend in academia, etc) but always seek multiple opinions. If you are applying to a medical school in the same state or region as your undergraduate institution, your advisor may have direct connections with faculty at that medical school or direct access to someone who does, and can therefore provide quality insight specific to certain medical schools that cannot be found on KZitem (not to say KZitem and your channel isn't a tremendous resource). You have made a career out of increasing the access to quality info that pertains to the undergrad to med jump, and then subsequent UME to GME leap, but its also important for students to stay bigger picture oriented, as there is no magic recipe. Work hard, put in the time, develop a genuine passion for people, learn to be collaborative, and you'll be just fine.
@yeeticusmac6240
3 жыл бұрын
Before I even started college, when I went on tour of the campus, I met with the head of the pre-med concentration program. He literally told me that if you make more than 2 Bs in college you should probably reconsider trying to go to medical school
@lauraeager373
3 жыл бұрын
That’s ridiculous! You do NOT need all A’s to get into medical school per my independent (of my post-bacc) advisor
@maraisfan4life517
2 жыл бұрын
B’s aren’t bad at all, wth.
@chengalvalavenkata2401
5 ай бұрын
You can have several Bs and still have at least a 3.6 GPA (especially if the Bs are early on). As long as your GPA and MCAT are good (even if not straight As), you're good. If the GPA's bad, you can still take a postbacc and show an upward trend via postbac GPA.
@yeeticusmac6240
5 ай бұрын
@@chengalvalavenkata2401yea it’s total bs that they tell people that. I had plenty of B’s and ended with a 3.7 and am now a 1st year medical student
@SpareLs
4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video/give advice about doing Pass/No Pass given the current pandemic situation and how it might affect your chances of getting into medical school?
@diamondl0
4 жыл бұрын
Hey if you search the medical school you plan to attend they should have info but a whole many schools are taking the PASS/FAIL for Spring 2020 remember many colleges over the world have switch to the system and you are not alone😊
@lauraeager373
3 жыл бұрын
I took a class P/NP in the summer of 2020 and most med schools will accept classes as long as they are passed
@minim-ms
4 жыл бұрын
Dr. J: Premed advisors are LYING to you! Me, not even a premed student: I fucken KNEW IT
@mr.ssj3847
4 жыл бұрын
oooof shots fired fam.. I knew the one from my school didn't have my best interests from the first time I talked to him.
@mikemavy3774
4 жыл бұрын
This helps me out soooo much. I'm just finishing my freshman year in undergrad and trying to figure things out for medical school, but my premed advisors don't help! These videos have honestly helped me so much. Thanks!!
@markmccormick4354
4 жыл бұрын
My advisor was very good at helping me get into medical school but the biggest thing that I wish I actually got from her is what medical school would actually be like. Looking back, I had no idea what I was getting into with medicine at the time. Also like the video says, I was advised to go into a non Biology discipline and only took the med school preqs as my medical sciences background before starting school. In my opinion, both of these factors really hurt me when I got to med school compared to my biology peers and I struggled a lot academically throughout my time in med school
@thomasb5828
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would love to see a video on academic enhancing masters program and other post bacc programs. Thanks for your no bs takes.
@willkuenstner5575
2 жыл бұрын
As a recent US MD graduate (currently PGY2 resident), couldn’t agree more with Kevin. These people are worth their advice in navigating particular nuances in scheduling undergrad classes, but that’s about it. There are so many excellent resources available on the internet for free, with much better advice than pre-med advisors. Never used the school-provided advisors for high school, college, or med school, and I truly believe it would’ve hurt me. Their advice is geared to the lowest common denominator
@MedSchoolInsiders
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Premed advisor advice is likely worse than you even expect. At least it was when I spent a week with 15ish of them. I honestly believe a student who spends considerable time consuming high quality free online resources (our YT videos or blog posts) will know far above and beyond more than a premed advisor.
@JacquelineMorris-l1x
6 ай бұрын
I was a premed advisor for over 18 years. The premed advisors you are describing here are not the same in all Universities. Select smaller schools and not large state universities to have better advisors. Usually at smaller schools the premed advisors are Ph.D. Scientists and have had statistics. This video is focusing on larger Universities that hire B.S. grads and pay them a lower wage. You should expect more from your Universities. Students should seek out professors who are in the sciences and have taken the curriculum. As for the reason why Caribbean medical school are not competitive is that the best students are able to get into US medical schools. Usually students who have lower MCAT scores and grades go to a less competitive medical schools and the residency programs know this. If the best and the brightest went to Caribbean schools then they would be competitive. Excellent content and well done.
@sampatton1869
4 жыл бұрын
I do believe there is A LOT of dangerous misinformation floating out there from pre-med advisors, but it should be noted that good pre-med advisors do exist (my own pre-med advisor included). She does a fantastic job prepping pre-meds at my school for the application process, whether that be putting on mock MMI's, practice MCATs, or personal statement workshops. She is very well acquainted with the admissions staff from our only in-state MD program (University of Mississippi), going so far as to have the associate dean of admissions from UM visit to have one-one-one's with our pre-meds! She's also very well connected with volunteer and research opportunities around campus to help us build up our applications (she helped me get into the research lab I'm in now). She makes it very clear what med schools expect from applicants nowadays as opposed to the way they used to be, and she never blatantly steers students in the direction of D.O programs, Caribbean programs, or non-science majors. Everything Dr. Jubbal said is absolutely true! Pre-meds definitely need to be wary of what advice they're getting from their advisors, but don't write them off immediately. Just use your best judgment during your interactions with your advisor, and hopefully you'll be blessed to get one as good as mine!
@nightshockplayz5894
4 жыл бұрын
Pre-Med advisors work to try and get students into medical school, but I do agree that the requirements are low. However, the resources are very important: 1) Class advice 2) Committee letters 3) Getting your application on line with regards to essays, letters of recommendation, mock interviews, and possibilities of activities you can pursue. With regards to advice I heard from advisors. They mention they do not have experience with the classes themselves, but they use MSAR day and anecdotes from student experiences. I heard them tell me of lucky and great outcomes and other students that were not as lucky. In the end, I cannot advocate for ALL pre-med advisors, however one cannot shut them all down either. Be informed of who your advisor is and be skeptical of whether their advice is good before you determine whether to trust them or not.
@Fatemah-vc4eh
4 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about being a pathologist?
@elainesoowright
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you interview some DOs like Dr. Cellini on how they matched into competitive specialties!
@RealFredbaby
4 жыл бұрын
Elaine “i got a high step1 score” short video lmao
@joshb2686
4 жыл бұрын
Obviously there are more options going MD, but tbh DO’s did relatively well in the first combined match. This was most likely due to the fact that former AOA schools still prefer DO students. For something like plastics, this isn’t helpful...ortho however did very well for this reason.
@Theredheadguru
4 жыл бұрын
What happened to the note taking video? I never got to watch it 😭
@judyskye
4 жыл бұрын
Khadedra Cozier he does have a note taking video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/soukyqKNe4RhdGU
@Theredheadguru
4 жыл бұрын
Judy Mahgoub no not this one there was another strictly based on digital notes
@AbBooz-rc5oc
4 жыл бұрын
My advisor has been a huge help. She advised me to change my second major to transfer studies, so by the time I transfer to a four year, 90% of ALL my premed prereqs will be completed.The only thing she was weary about was my choice to major in Neuroscience with a molecular, cellular, physiological concentration.
@vipforlyf
4 жыл бұрын
my premed advisor told me i wouldn't get to medical school with my grades so i should consider another path :(
@lovefunkrockmusic
4 жыл бұрын
Talk to medical school recruiter on admission committees.
@justtoolit6051
4 жыл бұрын
What are your grades lmao ?
@vipforlyf
4 жыл бұрын
JustTooLit mostly A’s with 2 B’s and 1 C
@vipforlyf
4 жыл бұрын
JJ Vi thank you 🥺🥺❤️
@lauraeager373
3 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s terrible! My advisor independent of my post-bacc said the you do NOT need all A’s to get into med school
@ryankelly8077
4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY !! A factual based presentation on the nuances of pre-med advising that also calls out the lack of qualified guidance by these academic advidors
@zoesemersky9371
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for looking out for us!
@justinlover4ev
4 жыл бұрын
your videos made me wanna try med school out!
@Blackwolf14k
4 жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that an Ad for SGU popped up on this video.
@waleedkhalid7486
4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that medicine is a field where to get in it matters more what other people think of you rather than actual ability. So many people get turned off medicine because of professors and advisors telling them they can’t make it, instead of giving tips on how to make it. And don’t get me started on the application process itself- if you are not 100% confident of getting in to something, then the anxiety of starting the process can be crushing. Many people wonder if it is worth the time and money to even apply if they aren’t guaranteed a spot somewhere, and it is a valid concern! I wouldn’t want to waste hours upon hours of time and money for something that is not guaranteed to work with an even lower chance of acceptance if I try again. While tropical schools have their own problems, once you get your degree you can at a least practice as a primary care physician after an exam or two. Sure the money isn’t as good, but it is still pretty good.
@aliablackwell8311
Жыл бұрын
I majored in biology because it is genuinely my favorite thing in the world. I love medicine because it is applied biology and problem solving. It was the right choice for me because my passion makes me more successful and prevents me from burning out. I can't see myself doing anything else. I hate when people suggest it's too "common". My major may be common, but my passion is not.
@regularjoe6137
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, on first hand experience, They are not the best person for advice on medical school related topics!! I mostly used the service in terms of my degree course work and graduating on time!! If you would like higher quality advice in medicine, I suggest first you do your own research on the subject, reach out to medical student, or even residents. Alot of premed clubs provide contact with students in medschool. I say they provide some of the best advice. Other options I ran to also include mentors in medicine, could be friends that are in medical school and so on. Medical schools are also a great source for advice!
@annanikolich8753
2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad this is a video.
@mariaa.echeverri2969
4 жыл бұрын
My advisor, the former head professor of our biology dept, told me that I wouldn’t make my dream of medical school come true.
@adrianvalderrama8225
4 жыл бұрын
Go off, King.
@jazminchew3620
4 жыл бұрын
Yup I mentioned different advisors on college that I wanted to become a surgeon and most on them instead of guiding me to the right path, they told me to study nursing to get there..... I was like nursing???? That has nothing to do with what I want...... just 2 told me the truth.... the rest just see you and decide for you what you should study.... and that’s why I’m where I’m cuz I’m not from here, but I have always been misguided by teachers and advisors, my advisor from high school never told me about college, so I told her why you have been calling others for tours and info about college and never did with me and she told me..... I never thought you wanted to go to college!!! So cuz she thought for me she never gave me guidance.... and that has been my life....... but now I’m in love with this video cuz makes me feel I can take my own decisions no matter what...... before I let advisors guide me cuz idk how the system works and I thought they supposed to guide me but now I know I can do what I want and not everything that they say thanks
@evanmostafa7150
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your research and all your points are extremely valid. But I think it's unfair to paint ALL premed advisors as incompetent. Some are very good at what they do and I doubt you've met all 1000+ that exist. My own advisor had been helping students for almost 20 years and made us aware of all the things you're pointing out.
@sailormercury333
4 жыл бұрын
Um, so I’m a senior in high school, and I’ve been looking for colleges with a good pre med track. My preferred major is biology with a psychology minor. Would that be too rigorous with the minor? Maybe a dumb question, but I’m kinda worried about balancing the work.
@ChckNoris
4 жыл бұрын
If you work hard and are good with managing your time I see no reason why that should be an issue. That's a pretty common major and a pretty common minor to pursue.
@Kazz1187
4 жыл бұрын
If that's what you want to do, then it should be fine. Discover your limits and expand your boundaries! :D
@dannyvuong1023
4 жыл бұрын
I’m a bio major and psych minor. Will you study a lot? Yes. Is it manageable? Yes.
@nickwildcard627
4 жыл бұрын
Currently a bio major with psych minor (just finishing my first year though so take it as you will), the biggest thing is time management and regularly reading/studying throughout the semester. It’s definitely possible to maintain a decent social life and make straight A’s if you have a system that works for you
@SuturesandStuffies
4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jubbal and anyone else reading this comment, I am receiving a bachelor's in nursing following an ADN to BSN program in a few semester and I spoke with my premed advisor the other day to make sure I was on track for medical school with what I was planning to complete this summer and in the coming semesters. Yet, when speaking to her, she said that taking my prerequisite courses at a community college was likely to mean I was not a competitive applicant and that I should begin taking my classes at the 4-year school I'm receiving my bachelor's from, even though the courses themselves are the same in name. She is an advisor through the 4-year school, so I feel as though there may be some bias there, potentially, but I'm unsure if it is actually true that I will be a substantially less competitive applicant by taking my medical prerequisites and having most of my degree (the ADN classes) through a community college. I have worked incredibly hard to maintain a 4.0 in a rigorous nursing school, community college or not, and I hope to maintain that through my prerequisites because if I did it in hard nursing courses, I feel like I can do it in courses like chemistry and physics. But I can't really afford to take my classes through the 4-year school unless I take like 1 a semester for the next.. many many years, so is it a waste of time to take them through the community college? My advisor said that I would regret it and end up having to retake the classes through the 4-year if I did. It feels unreasonable that the classes would be looked down upon that much that it would be the difference between getting in and not getting in to medical school. Any input from anyone really would be appreciated. I have very little guidance in my journey to medical school as my nursing advisor is very anti-nurses becoming doctors.. and my premed advisor has also tried to talk me out of becoming a doctor and just becoming an NP instead every time I've gone to her. I'm feeling a little bit lost and don't know where to turn to ask questions. Thank you, Elsa
@quobalt
3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly, my premed advisor is a board certified physician so I definitely trust her.
@lauraeager373
3 жыл бұрын
Lucky you!
@tenillehawthorne2421
4 жыл бұрын
I switched my major from Biology Pre-Med to Psychology due to the lack of conversation and guidance from my advisor. It became overwhelming because I wasn't told what classes I needed to be best prepared for med school and they had me staying an additional yr just for Calculus courses...Dropped Biology to my minor and Psychology to my major. Fast forward 12 yrs I am looking back at Med school options but need tons of refresher courses and need to take the MCAT...Wish me luck...🤓
@shivanishastri4285
4 жыл бұрын
Tenille Hawthorne good luck! 🍀
@rushilb6
4 жыл бұрын
What about their minimal understanding of the application process
@j10001
2 жыл бұрын
7:00 It’s pronounced with a “Ch” sound at the beginning: “CHaldini” (Source: he’s a well-known prof in my doctoral field, and I’ve met him.)
@shruthibala3603
4 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on credit/no credit system due to this semester's weird class format? I'm getting conflicting answers on whether or not this is a bad idea for med schools
@mbsaxman600
3 жыл бұрын
I WISH I had seen this when I first started undergrad. My university really tries to pigeon hole students interested in medical school, and so if you're not aligning with their ideal image, they literally encourage you to do something else, rather than explain to you what needs to improve, your options, and how to make your future work.
@JayFitNurse
3 жыл бұрын
How about my advisor about 9 years ago told me to do nursing instead because anesthesia medicine is dying and CRNA will take over and I’ll be better off... here I am a nursing student drop out pursuing med school because my heart led me back here
@velocitor3792
3 жыл бұрын
I know a brilliant woman who was completely misled by her premed advisor, who gave her completely crushingly hopeless advice, when in fact she would have been reasonably competitive for a medical school, and definitely had a shot at a D.O. school. She ended up being a P.A., but I think a lot of her potential went unfulfilled. It's almost like Premed Advisors are part of the obstacle course of the premed student's journey; you have to be determined enough to ignore their advice. Like they're almost part of the weed-out process, in a meanspirited psychological warfare type of way.
@ct8377
3 жыл бұрын
What I got from this video is that maybe I should be a premed advisor. lol
@debashisbishi5745
4 жыл бұрын
🔴 So, what will I choose S.E.L.F-D.I.S.C.I.P.L.I.N.E or P.A.S.S.I.O.N ? 🔥SELF-DISCIPLINE ➡ do what is IMPORTANT whether you feel LIKE it or not -E.L.B.E.R.T H.U.B.B.A.R.T 🔥PASSION ➡ Do what you LIKE ▫E.G. exercise is IMPORTANT for me but I don't LIKE it
@mangoanxiety9808
2 жыл бұрын
My advisor told me it wasn’t a good idea to take bio as a freshman because it was a class sophomores took…I got my aa degree in while high school and met the prerequisite for bio. I’m technically a first year student because I just graduated hs but I do have two years of college done. I had essentially pressure her to let me by listing off the prerequisites and other classes I’d taken to prep for bio. If she didn’t let me I would have to go to college for an extra year for no reason at all
@kln9646
4 жыл бұрын
my premed advisor is on the medical school admissions committee though.
@chinonyeolumba1968
4 жыл бұрын
When I was about to graduate I felt like I wasn’t given proper advise about medical school in general. All I remember my advisor talking about was taking my MCAT my junior year so I could get in once I graduated and that “you can get away with a bad MCAT score if you have a good GPA” which is bad advice. It made me feel like the MCAT wasn’t a big deal when it actually is
@shivanishastri4285
4 жыл бұрын
Chinonye Olumba it is actually both but MCAT and GPA but it doesn’t recover a bad GPA as much as the other way around.
@syedmwahid6046
4 жыл бұрын
Would you say pre-med advisers vary in competency based on the ranking of the university? I'm attending a top undergrad and while I watch all these videos I'd like to ask specific questions to my adviser.
@natelasley8447
4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jabbal, I keep up with your channel. I haven't noticed the channel mention podiatric medical programs. I don't intend to argue that podiatrists are any better or worse than MDs or DOs, I just figured it would be a good thing to mention in the future. Most of the 9 podiatric medical programs in the US are directly linked to DO programs. My class, for example, will take courses with fellow DO students. Unfortunately, it took me a long time to find my way into podiatry, and I blame that partially on advisors and a general lack of awareness on my part that podiatry is a separate degree from an MD/DO. The curriculum at most of the programs (I interviewed at several of them) provides a full medical education from my limited understanding of what that is. I'm curious, what is your opinion of podiatric medical school? In my interviews, something I noticed the deans say a lot is that podiatry is one of the best kept secrets in medicine... their implication being the quality of life of a podiatrist is high while still allowing them to practice in a surgical specialty (work-life balance and what not). I would like to share this info with others because I think podiatry is an awesome specialty that provides a great opportunity for people to become great docs (DPM), but I was never directed to checking it out until after taking my MCAT. I just happened to come across an email advertisement from one of the programs. My fellow classmates have similar stories. Anyhow, I really enjoy your channel and all that your team provides/creates in the form of mostly unbiased, useful information. Blessings to you and the med school insiders team!
@Youtubeuser10873
2 жыл бұрын
They told me to take 4 classes in my first semester that was the worst thing i did to myself and then it messed uo my mental health and i dropped pre cal and had a c in bio but only passed history and English
@WatchingWhereUWalk
4 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, when I attended West Point the pre-med advisor strongly advised considering DO schools. Thank goodness he left and a legitimate Army doc is in his place now.
@AdamNessim
4 жыл бұрын
It's ok to consider DO schools, and sometimes encouraged. The point is that if you want to match into a competitive specialty like plastics then DO will make it much more difficult, and this info isn't being provided to students.
@joshb2686
4 жыл бұрын
Cole Ogrydziak ofcourse you should consider DO based on circumstances. DO is a good path, just not quite as good as MD.
@BeMinePink14
4 жыл бұрын
This video is gold
@morganoconnor8425
4 жыл бұрын
*deep breath* thank you!
@lissa4922
4 жыл бұрын
HA! I didn't see the pinokio nose before, lol. Also, my advisor was actually pretty helpful as she was able to guide me through courses pretty well. And went to her doctor husband about info.
@rajinlaxus3835
3 жыл бұрын
the other side that is also horrible is that directors or admissions majored in art history smh.
@jarredcox6714
3 жыл бұрын
I'm majoring in American History, my advisor as well as the health and science(premed) advisor told me I wasn't allowed to take premed classes unless I change my major into a bio major. I call b.s. and am going to do everything I can to get my premed classes done even if I need to double major or pick a bio minor.
@kayboo1090
4 жыл бұрын
My premed advisor told me I wasn't going to make it to medical school.
@TheGooglyminotaur
4 жыл бұрын
I suddenly feel really lucky that my premed advisor is both a doctor and feeds into a good medical school.
@cloudtheavegner1000
4 жыл бұрын
4:25 did anyone notice the sign said "Med School Insiders"?
@MedSchoolInsiders
4 жыл бұрын
There are some letters before it too 🙃
@cloudtheavegner1000
4 жыл бұрын
Med School Insiders that’s what made it so sneaky. 😉
@efflatise
4 жыл бұрын
“I love med school insiders”
@cloudtheavegner1000
4 жыл бұрын
@@efflatise I missed that.
@Youtubeuser10873
2 жыл бұрын
Y’all don’t get discouraged because of course everyone can do good at history and it’s not as hard as sciences so it’s normal you get better grades at it not to mention it’s an elective
@shivanishastri4285
4 жыл бұрын
My pre-medical advisor is someone I thank a lot for helping me write my essays and connecting me with the local admissions officers as well, but the Caribbean trip part makes a lot of sense. Your stats are the best Dr. Jubbal. The reality is that it’s hard to get into competitive specialties as a DO.
@Rainbowofthefallen
3 жыл бұрын
Just Commenting for the algorithm ❤️
@suzipuzi2001
4 жыл бұрын
Idk. I didn't have this experience. The premed advisors at my university were doctors and knew a lot. None of them ever said Caribbean schools were good 😆. But there was very little I needed from the premed advisors other than a letter and just fresh eyes to look at my portfolio and tell me if I'm missing anything. I literally met with my advisor 2 or 3 times.
@juanpinto6732
4 жыл бұрын
Hey doc, I was wondering what's your advice for the option to take a No credit/credit grade than a letter grade. My school is giving us an option to choose Credit/No credit option which essetnially means on your transcript it will say Cr instead of a letter grade and it won't make a difference in your GPA. At this point in the semester I know the classes I will get As and Bs in, so do you think I should take the Credit/no credit option for those classes I will get a B in since it will lower my GPA? Do you think medical schools will look down upon it?
@KateBrinfour
4 жыл бұрын
I was in community college for 3 years, then I transferred to a 4-year university. After I graduate, I'm going back to community college because it's cheaper for me, and because of my financial situation, I can only afford that. I said this to my advisor, but she told me that it might be a bit tricky. Honestly, at this point, I could care less. I've contacted some medical schools who said that they're okay with community college credit. And I'm going to be one of those non-traditional students but, cause of my personal reasons, I'd rather stick to what I got from medical schools themselves. My advisor is amazing though, but I know they advise pre-med students to not take all their stuff at community college. If med schools never accepted them, then why have them there? Can this be a video topic?
@alondraelizabethherrera2404
4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video for those of us who want to go to med school in Canada 😊 please
@Medicineandlacrosse
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t relate my pre-med advisor went to medical school
@anna_sipilovic
4 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could make a video on what functional medicine is?
@aditeeroy27
4 жыл бұрын
Please make video on if you want to be a neurosurgeon like the video if you want to be a orthopaedic surgeon.
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