Super quick and raw video for you today. Nothing fancy here, just wanted to get the message out to those of you putting pH up/down directly into your nutrient solution. Adding pH up/down directly into the nutrient solution is a mistake that I've made before and I don't hear many people talk about this crucial step. Here is that video by Everest Fernandez that I spoke about within this video-> kzitem.info/news/bejne/uWussoF7aYBeaGk Also... Blue Planet Nutrients (Discount code: MRGROWIT)- bit.ly/2lzjC2i pH Up & pH Down (Discount code: MRGROWIT)- bit.ly/2HxgoER PH meter- amzn.to/2tcfrhh
@garyalcorn3831
3 жыл бұрын
So what is the downside to adding ph straight to reservoir?
@jermlittle1970
3 жыл бұрын
@@theknightspalace your so smart.I wish I was a genius like you.And notes that brilliant.You sure helped me out.lol
@TheOGJeff
3 жыл бұрын
What would happen if you just mixed it without dilution?
@Electric_Skunk
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I had no freaking idea thats what the cloud was. Appreciate it man, thanks for sharing 👍
@lessmigrantsmorewalls8392
3 жыл бұрын
And with this method can I add both pH up and pH down to the same nutrient solution?
@MrCanucksGrowGuide
4 жыл бұрын
Ive never mixed liquid nutes before so didn't realize this was a thing to know. thanks for sharing man.
@theknightspalace
4 жыл бұрын
Shout the f! out to you on the spiderfarm QB.. happy New year! Can I download your music playlist..🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏😎
@linseywicker6843
4 жыл бұрын
We watch your videos for learning as well. You and mr. Grow are our "go to guys" when we need to know somethin
@linseywicker6843
4 жыл бұрын
Oh and wizard npk and lex blazer You guys are our top 4
@hollowbullet
4 жыл бұрын
@@linseywicker6843 Can't forget lex blazer and check out DGC's grow talks; learnt so much from those guys
@thebayslayer1
4 жыл бұрын
Its actually the nutrients binding together and locking out which becomes un available to the plant
@valeriesanchez3074
2 жыл бұрын
I been using lemon juice and baking soda as a ph up and ph down. Working wonderful
@ThroughTheTrials
3 жыл бұрын
This is honestly huge, I’m glad I found this.
@Just4Growers
4 жыл бұрын
Hey amigo-thanks for the shout-out. Much appreciated!
@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt
4 жыл бұрын
I was always taught give credit where credit is due 🙂 ... I hope all has been well with you. Cheers man!
@chriswilliamson1211
2 жыл бұрын
Damn. I've been making this mistake for 3 grows, now. Oops. Thanks for the video Chris, I hope you know how much of a help you are to "our community". Keep em coming, man. I can't get enough.
@Kid_Kootenay
3 жыл бұрын
It's called flockulation it happens anytime you ad up to a fert solution to avoid do as you did or adjust the plane water first then add the fert and it will drop down. Flockulation is binding the fert molecules up too big to enter the roots it turns into something similar to gyprock turning cloudy and falling out of solution. Great tip I worked in a hydro store for over ten years and almost no one was aware of this
@timbrowers4094
3 жыл бұрын
And how did their plants grow ? Just fine I bet. Or they could have had 2% more yield , not worth it.
@torrielandsman4625
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice Chris, It was a mistake I made thirty years ago and had to learn by myself because there was no internet back then. You new growers don't realize how good you have it with people Like Chris to steer you right. My first and last experience with adding potassium silicate was awful, It coagulated into a suspended sludge like substance (thats what the cloud Chris showed you) my pump distributed it throughout my system and plugged up drip lines and I had to scrape it off my rock wool so the water would go through it again, I replaced all of my spaghetti lines.
@toscompliance
3 жыл бұрын
Beginners make this mistake all the time and don't realize the impact on soil health. Thanks for sharing with the community
@therealm00theoriginal27
3 жыл бұрын
well in hydro it does not matter
@scrapyang8977
9 күн бұрын
Finally found what I need. Cause when I put in ph up it just cloud like that. Thanks for the video. I knew that there was something wrong with it when I put in the ph
@plantman5126
3 жыл бұрын
I was trying to cheap out on PH testing on the first grow (single plant). I just used the aquarium ph tester and it said 7.4. I have ordered things from Amazon. Thank you for the info. You are one of the best presenters on youtube.
@microbemania8391
3 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but I just learned this about 2 weeks ago and I wish I had seen this when It came out, completely makes sense.
@pcostyle11
3 жыл бұрын
Same here im mid weeks 4 ill do it for sure !
@m.feaver960
4 жыл бұрын
Keep the water turning in one circular stirring motion while adding your droplets and it will cut down on the clouding tremendously. Very good thoughts though, diluting it would be the A+ way to go. So med.
@Oppenheimer1968
2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous information in which I was not aware-thank you sir!
@chamed3381
Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this information!! My Ph always go back up when I adjust it to 5.8 and let it sit for a few it’s always goes back up to 6.1 or +
@702grobuddy3
4 жыл бұрын
Look at that! I've learned something new today! Thanks Chris! I'll definitely keep that in mind for now on. Just another extra step to keep the girls happy! Happy growing!
@mitchrenton8330
2 жыл бұрын
I bought your book and I'm waiting for it in the mail, until then I'm listening to your videos. Thank you
@7munkee
2 жыл бұрын
THIS is why it's important to watch old videos from people you follow. I have never known this and have been doing it wrong my last 4 grows. Thank you Chris!!
@dr.cronik0_038
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man could you revisit this on a grow talk. Maybe like chemical reactions with nutes. You could talk about the ph cloudy again. Also include proper silica mixing so you don't make sand. And I also know about calcium locking out phosphorus or potassium if mixed in the wrong ratios. I'm trying to think of any other reactions to be aware of but I'm sure there's alot. Didnt you settle that phing is fine for microbes. But I think you get the jist, I think this would be a great topic.
@ivolub821
2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy that i randomly found this video scrolling around. I just ordered ph+ & - and start using it tomorrow 😂. Thank you sir
@patleaf2432
2 жыл бұрын
I def make this mistake and have noticed the grey cloud many times. Ty for this,.
@dylski4294
6 ай бұрын
Thanks man! good video. Only thing that sucks is having so much extra water in your dwc that you’ll either have to scoop or drain out to get back to the appropriate level of your net pot. And then also having to re-assess PPMs, EC, and TDS. It’s a never ending cycle it seems. And also seems like it would take hours to feed your plants plants playing catch up
@jeffheyer7783
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I just make this mistake and saw the “cloud” you speak of. I began to wonder if the nutrients were reacting with the ph up and down.
@pwgreen420
2 жыл бұрын
I use lemon juice, the only direction I ever need to go is down, lemon juice is perfect the plants love it
@EverythingEddy
2 жыл бұрын
The TNB Down & Up is a salt bass and you can just had a little at a time tell the Ph is at your standards it’s amazing & works every time. Also it’s mess free 💯 Good video thanks again 💚
@videos-hp4ch
Жыл бұрын
What?
@superunknown314159
4 жыл бұрын
Yasss this happened all summer long! I knew it was a reaction but didn't realize it was negative
@mr.greentree2678
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the video totally did not know you were supposed to dilute first, lesson learned and applied.
@Jason-dr6se
3 жыл бұрын
I like learning new procedures. Thanks
@RaviSingh-xl3os
3 жыл бұрын
WaW thats sum good info bro never heard of this but im glad I did, im always eager to learn on how to better my plants in any way possible.
@Rluce75
3 жыл бұрын
I use distilled white vinegar and baking soda to adjust ph. Never noticed a cloud but am going to use this method from now on. Thank you for the tip!
@Old_Man_Dan
Жыл бұрын
I was going to ask about this. I also use vinegar and baking soda. Is there any reason not to?
@seatsniffer91
9 ай бұрын
Vinegar will not stabilize pH in the medium long term. It also kills microbial life.
@davidlovell7724
Жыл бұрын
Do you check the ph, before adding the nutrients or after the nutrients go in?
@ironindica7342
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent info like usual 👌 I will start doing this as I was doing it wrong before.
@markdrewett149
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you just solved my issue for a long time now.
@Trackattack.911
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man that really help because I really didn’t know that. I will do that for now on
@tc3666
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your videos, didn't realize about the PH. also thanks for your par testing on the growers choice E680, helped in deciding what to buy. Keep growing, keep sharing.
@richardsmith6166
3 жыл бұрын
I've saw that same color yesterday!! Thanks for info great job
@TheShleafHerder
3 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your videos, thanks for sharing, I will definitely shout you out for this, and Everest Hernandez for teaching you. Keep it Growin' 💧
@JH-lr8cl
3 жыл бұрын
I dilute mine in distilled water 1/10 then store it in a large medicine syringe. Makes it easy to dose and it stores well for a week or so.
@Javanni
3 жыл бұрын
Smart. So you mix your ph w your distilled water then store it in a syringe?
@JH-lr8cl
3 жыл бұрын
@@Javanni correct. I use 80 % phosphoric acid. I find it easier to work with this way.
@jacquesnoir6006
3 жыл бұрын
Ran into this problem after I finally had to start using pH up. Always good to revisit
@davidrich4738
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@MoreWhippet56wild
10 күн бұрын
such a great VIDEO. Does this happen when adding micronized calcium and Citric acid?
@peaches963
Жыл бұрын
I've been struggling with this to the point that I stopped doing it, this video super simple and informative. Do you also check ppm run off and how do you do this
@Bloomcycle
9 ай бұрын
Look up lemon juice to ph down
@tonyb.7158
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip Mr. G!
@ivealwaysbeencrazy1313
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the cloud info and video link for explanations. Got yourself a sub for it. 👍
@jasontemel896
3 жыл бұрын
I'm doing this from now on thanks
@patrickc3103
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed precipitate on the bottom of my rez. Very helpful. Thank you.
@kylesteen7205
2 жыл бұрын
thanks mr grow it. didnt kno this myself.
@quentinaskin6752
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this chur
@coolbreeze8572
3 жыл бұрын
Really awesome information this is great stuff love the channel
@WhiteDiablo360
2 жыл бұрын
This is an old video but he's right .. leads to nutrient lockout.
@nicklohry9284
3 жыл бұрын
Never knew that! Thanks for the tip brother. Keep the tips coming 👍👍
@undesirablydesirable7263
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting bro.Thank you for sharing this.
@professorgreenlight1361
3 жыл бұрын
I use that same PH meter. Best meter I've ever owned.
@DV-zv4ox
3 жыл бұрын
Which one is it? Amazon link 😄
@professorgreenlight1361
3 жыл бұрын
@@DV-zv4ox I've used several PH meters and this is by far the best I've used.
@user-pwfus
3 ай бұрын
I add my ph up to the res but mix it around as soon as I introduce it to the bucket so that it does not concentrate one spot.
@thea.r.c.1914
2 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@dimasmoreno3512
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@scottarnold6528
3 жыл бұрын
After only a few watering's you should know how much of which product (Up or Down.) that you'll need to add to get within your pH range. Once you know that you can add your pH prior to mixing. Started doing that when I switched to well water, where I had to start using pH down & because it was acidic ( As apposed to pH up just being a base.) I figured that it would lock up easier and after I have my water measured out adding more water is just that extra water that throws off the formula (However minor that is.). Never really thought of it from a chemical reaction stand point.
@NewzAndReviewz
4 жыл бұрын
You saved me bro!! Best vid on the net!
@donbo8103
3 жыл бұрын
Good information thanks for sharing
@notablerandom
2 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly helpful and the first time I’ve heard this thank you Comment 420 yaaaaaa
@joshuahereth5094
Жыл бұрын
Wow I just saw that! Thanks I would have fell right into that non- deluded and added just like that..Thanks and to that rocket scientist who said bad chemistry was happening..u guys rock!!!
@moosebrandon8665
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it man thank you
@cyrus2kreplicant613
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice! Thank you.
@emrahcanpolat
4 жыл бұрын
thank you for informing . please make more like this mistakes videos
@leonjan3720
3 жыл бұрын
so easy it just might work, GR8 info bro.
@hank689.5
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pistolpete4736
3 жыл бұрын
Had no clue about this. Thank you!
@kaciaway4167
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate.. notice that same white streak in my last 2 mixers n both got a bit frothy. I know y now. 👍🙏🇦🇺
@deanambrose9475
3 жыл бұрын
Always good advice, love this guy.
@pillsberri
9 ай бұрын
3 rd time watching this video this week I’m trying to enforce this n not forget it !
@dougyates7218
2 жыл бұрын
GREAT info and video, thank you for the time and effort! Teach us:)
@raydhyne5049
Жыл бұрын
Great tip thanks!!
@Harvest_hustlers
8 ай бұрын
Use citric acid for oh down it will convert to phosphorus to anions there for up taking it in coco
@rekaviles
2 жыл бұрын
I was trying to raise PH off a 5 gallon bucket of solution and it did not want to move from 4.1. i added a bit at a time, testing after each but after 5 try, I tested other things to make sure my meter was not broken. I then tried to raise pH in same solution but just a cup of it and it worked. Could not figure outlets why the main 5 gallon world not move from 4.1. I rested enough so I left it as-is at that point since I already wasted a good amount of my small bottle. What you explained in this vid must be what I was going through. I'll try the dilute first method and see if that gets things moving. Thanks.
@kellyhill4410
4 жыл бұрын
Great tip . Thanks Chris
@jackiedaytona9780
3 жыл бұрын
Your video randomly popped up and made me realize I forgot to ph my 55gal drum I mixed earlier when I had a major distraction. . I'm in promix and the drum was at 6.7.. Thank you,. I also dilute and ph down my silica before adding to the drum. it has a very high ph and can cause some fallout when nutrients start getting added depending on your starting ph. I think around 8 bad things start happening. I was having clouding issues and this stopped it immediately. Using jacks 3-2-1 and I mix in a 5 gallon bucket and then add it to the drum in the proper order. For me Its more steps but gives me the opportunity to catch myself if I screw up.
@johnadams3800
3 жыл бұрын
Silica should always be the very first thing going into your solution.
@RIBBY_BOY
3 жыл бұрын
I always do this and I noticed alot of people dont ur right about that I use a milk container so I dilute it atleast a litre
@OddWoz
2 жыл бұрын
I always do this. With almost everything I mix. It just allows things to combine easier too and of course avoiding the danger of having things crash out.
@cporz3784
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried this method twice now and not only did it still cloud up it fucked up both of my feeds. Any insight to this?
@cporz3784
2 жыл бұрын
Side note I ran a whole grow just puttin the ph up straight into the feed n from what I saw no issues
@stainpain77
3 жыл бұрын
Anytime you mix acid or base into a chemical compound you are always going to get a chemical reaction. That’s the point. Just because you deleted it doesn’t mean it’s not still doing the same thing. You see the cloud because it’s a high dose reaction but in reality when it’s diluted it’s a smaller scale but the same chemical reaction is still occurring
@juniellugo1962
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing.
@amtab2000
3 жыл бұрын
i have been adding ph up with no change all morning thx
@Brazilbroker1
2 жыл бұрын
dude, excellent 💯💯💯
@larrydevalljr4242
Жыл бұрын
Chris thank you for all info you give! I appreciate it so much!!!!
@guccithadon8340
3 жыл бұрын
Yooooooo this was hella useful I didn’t know this sheeeesh brotha thank you 🙏🏼
@meadbandofficial7920
4 жыл бұрын
This is really useful my dood. Thank you!
@ghostgrowz9750
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the good info as always
@geraldblount4159
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@lightgeekusa8606
3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Player! I just recently am having to ph adjust my water and noticed the cloud when i added PH down.
@MrKnew
11 ай бұрын
Gosh, I really wish I could talk to somebody about acidity and pH. What I would like to know is, do I need to start balancing my pH before I pour Foxfarm into soil or should I just follow the recommended chart regardless of how high my pH gets because my babies seem to keep disintegrating every time I does, even when I dial it back. It’s just a conundrum to me and I don’t want to mess up and I wanna get this figured out and how to convert fox farms for soil has been a journey; most definitely switching to Hydro in the next few years when I can afford it.
@MadLion1976
3 жыл бұрын
So cool to see the PH60 in use on KZitem, that’s my brand of choice for test instruments
@cory4419
3 жыл бұрын
Better than bluelab. Bout to buy one or the other
@enzoblade
4 жыл бұрын
So what happens if you don't dilute, does it harm the plant?
@sugargraham6868
7 ай бұрын
Sure glad I came across this. Great info brother good to know. Sending sum love from Alabama ❤❤❤
@KootMed
4 жыл бұрын
As always, Great Information👍
@deathsting1983
4 жыл бұрын
Didn't know this! Thank you Btw You can make the backlight stay on in the ph pen menu
@karlarndt9348
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, so appreciated.
@laythbadra1231
3 жыл бұрын
I did not know this...I have been having problems with my ppm fluctuating and have had no idea why. Could this be the reason for my fluctuating ppm? Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
@MattMannHere
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video this explains what I’m going through right now
@skotg406
3 жыл бұрын
odd, 25 years of hydo adding ph up & down directly to my nutes with no issues.
@torrielandsman4625
3 жыл бұрын
Potassium silicate is what I use as PH up, plants love potassium in flower and silicate is beneficial.
@ok88warrior
3 жыл бұрын
Any suggestions for a ph down?
@torrielandsman4625
3 жыл бұрын
@@ok88warrior I use phosphoric acid that I get at my local grow shop. I use this because the plants can use the phosphorous as it is the P in NPK
@mobeus84
3 жыл бұрын
hopefully its goin in first
@torrielandsman4625
3 жыл бұрын
@@mobeus84 to use as PH adjuster just dilute it with water first and add slowly while mixing.
@ivorwindybottom7364
3 жыл бұрын
I've been putting in undiluted, and my plants are looking very healthy, I will be trying diluted next time though, see what the difference is.
@jst4572
3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Next grow I’ll do some more experimenting. I’ve never had the gray cloud issue though. 🤷🏽♂️
@ivorwindybottom7364
3 жыл бұрын
@@jst4572 I thought of this yesterday, assuming we use the same brand of nutrients each time. We know how much PH down is required, so just putting the PH down in first would achieve the same thing surely ? My babies looking so green and vibrant just adding it whenever though.
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