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@billorcg7779
Ай бұрын
I wonder if you could comment on the passage from MN 36, the Maha-Saccaka Sutta, where the Buddha says: "I thought: 'I recall once, when my father the Sakyan was working, and I was sitting in the cool shade of a rose-apple tree, then - quite secluded from sensuality, secluded from unskillful mental qualities - I entered & remained in the first jhana: rapture & pleasure born from seclusion, accompanied by directed thought & evaluation. Could that be the path to Awakening?' Then following on that memory came the realization: 'That is the path to Awakening.'”
@ryanhastings6465
5 ай бұрын
Great video. Right view most definitely is not about attaining something or gaining something or adopting a new belief system, but about clearing away all the wrong view that gets in the way of seeing the truth of suffering and the escape from suffering. Which doesn't mean you even stop doing the things that are creating suffering for yourself, but you do concretely see the way out and know what work you need to do. It is an end point, but a beginning, because everything before that was just you figuring it out. After that so much space gets opened in the mind and so much of a burden is relieved, and you really see all these things you used to be entangled in as, well, entanglements and burdens and want to be free of them. Question: Curious that you said that a stream-enterer has perfected virtue. I haven't reviewed the suttas on this, but my teacher told me that it's once-returners who have perfected virtue, but I'm likely misunderstanding something here. Could you give me a reference or expand on that?
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
The Suttas simply call a Sotapanna "accomplished in virtue" while he is only "moderately accomplished in Samadhi and Panna. You could e.g. look at AN 3.85! Cannot post links, ebcause I think youTube even blocks them when I do that xD Thats aid, the Suttas do not expand much more on that. Acccomplishment in virtue just means, as I underatand it, that you have gone beyond "rules and observances" and instead have understood the eral problem beneath. In that sense, you no longer need virtue as you now have a better, inner, guide
@ryanhastings6465
5 ай бұрын
@@TheDhammaHub Got it. Seems like the same word is getting used in different ways, here, then, but everyone is saying the same thing.
@dunner079
14 күн бұрын
Have you attained stream entry? Serious question. Ive heard a few different interpretations that qualify someone as a stream winner even as simple as understanding non-self
@magicaree
5 ай бұрын
Really love your channel. Have you thought of ordaining?
@OgdenM
5 ай бұрын
He's pretty anti most western monasteries and even eastern ones. If not all of them. Which honestly, after having listened to probably 600+ hours of monastics give dharma talks, I'm right there with him. There are some I'd think about join, but they are all in other countries and I'm utterly poor already. (And have some debt anyway so... can't become a monk anyway.) One of the largest monasteries in the US even seems to encourage monks to have hobbies.. and I'm like, "Excuse me what?" And it's Ajhan Chah linage and I've seen / heard signs pointing to all of the other branch monasteries saying the same thing. There's monks that paint art!!! They say it's to help them practice dharma. That they are practicing not craving / non attachment when the do it. But I'm sorry, it's a hobby, you're attached to it, you crave it. You shouldn't give into it!!!
@magicaree
5 ай бұрын
@@OgdenM what’s wrong with being mindful in those hobbies. Nonetheless, im not aware of such things promoted. The Thai Forest Tradition in Thailand involves doing manual labour such as sweeping leaves but all in the spirit of practicing mindfulness. I really believe it comes down to personal resolve and how you are managing and observing your kilesas, otherwise you’ll find fault and blame everything around you and every excuse to disrobe or not ordain. I wouldn’t ordain in a western country personally as there just isn’t the same societal endorsement. I’d focus on removing those debts and consider trying in Asia. It seems like you’ve really considered it
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
At some point, I have looked for monasteries and such things but after a time I decided that my setting is good enough for a lot of progress. When they no longer seem sufficient, I will reassess
@magicaree
5 ай бұрын
Hope to see you in robes one day
@naftalibendavid
Ай бұрын
The first Jhanna is the foundation for liberation…
@PunyMortal
Ай бұрын
Iirc, the buddha praised the jhanas and called them very beneficial, but that they can't liberate you. They are "pleasant abiding here and now". Pleasure devoid of sensual craving. Nothing more. But without right view one starts to crave for that pleasure instead. Jhana can be dangerous..
@dunner079
14 күн бұрын
@@PunyMortal They are provisional forms of Nirvana but they are still Dhukkha and a fabricated form of reality that's subject to condition.
@cariyaputta
5 ай бұрын
I'd say even arahant is possible. The Buddha said in DN 16 (5.27.1): "In whatever teaching and training the noble eightfold path is found, there is an ascetic found, a second ascetic, a third ascetic, and a fourth ascetic. In this teaching and training the noble eightfold path is found. Only here is there an ascetic, here a second ascetic, here a third ascetic, and here a fourth ascetic. Other sects are empty of ascetics. Were these mendicants to practice well, the world would not be empty of perfected ones."
@Limemill
5 ай бұрын
Well, yeah, if there are stream enterers, there must be arahants who evolved from stream enterers and since the human realm is the best for the dhamma (there’s enough suffering for it to be visible yet enough safe space to practice), they should probably be living among us
@neemnyima2166
3 ай бұрын
The dry insight schools claim that attainment through Vipassana is easier or quick, because you don't need to attain jhanic absorption, but only need access concentration. The suttas are great for tidying up cultural and lineage bias, but they also refer to the idea that it is a living lineage and does require people with experience in the path. You need to balance the suttas with ideas of how people have practiced, and see if they match up in the suttas to really get it. Bhante Vimilaramsi called himself a suttist too. But he trained in Vipassana, got some validation of his training and then went on to explore the Suttas because something was missing from his perspective. He even doesn't claim a specific attainment but just says says its possible like you. Which you seem to value. From a sutric perspective I think you can see how all the Theravada schools have something, and even some of the Mahayana schools.
@TheDhammaHub
3 ай бұрын
I would even go as far as saying that "vipassana meditation" was _also_ not a thing back then and neither was dry insight^^ There is no such thing as dry insight as I see it - if you throw away the burden then you _will_ experience relief if you want to or not. That is more akin to a natural law. And all the other things will follow too! Hence, I do not feel close to any of the modern schools. The Suttas, I can verify for myself and they make sense from beginning to end. For many other things (and I stopped reading more modern stuff a good while ago) I cannot say that
@VeritableVagabond
5 ай бұрын
It’s like my mind bullies me away from stream-entry
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
It technically does, as all natural inclinations lead in another direction. This is why the Dhamma is "against the grain"
@VeritableVagabond
5 ай бұрын
@@TheDhammaHub your channel serves as great encouragement, thank you for your videos, truly! Did you you find on your way to nibanna that the mind was fighting back all the way up to nibanna? Or was there a point before stream-entry where the mind gave up and accepted the path as more suitable than suffering?
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
@@VeritableVagabond At some point, you recognize that literally everything is Dhamma and it stop making sense to resist it. Yet, the old abits continue and you must do the work to renounce them but at that point you would be destined for Nibbana
@tanned06
5 ай бұрын
uprooting Sakkayaditthi completely to possess the eye of Dhamma and completely understood the working of conditionality and hence the Four Noble Truths is easier than attaining mundane jhanas - this claim sounds unfounded.
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
I guess that would very much depend on what you mean by "mundane Jhana". Jhana in the Suttas would be a state where there is literally no craving/taint present in experience (on _any_ level). Such purity is not necessary to understand the 4NT based on the guidance of another. You can and likely will understand based a lot less "weak" craving^^ Such misunderstandings usually arise based on different meanings of the words we use
@haovan5273
5 ай бұрын
Can please point out where in the Sutta saying that becoming a Stream Entry is easier than reaching Jhana (Sammasamadhi)?
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
I do no think the Suttas compare those attainments in terms of difficulty. Yet what the Suttas do say is, that the Noble Eightfold Path _starts_ with Right View (see MN 117) and _ends_ with Right Samadhi. Universally, Samma Samadhi is explained as the culmination of the Path at the end while Right Veiw would be the beginning. Given that, one would quite easily come to the conclusion that the start is a bit easier than the culmination
@haovan5273
5 ай бұрын
@@TheDhammaHub You might not be wrong but I found one verse in Dhammapada that can be inferred that Insight (Right View of a Noble One) always goes with some high degree of Right Samadhi. 372. Natthi jhānaṃ apaññassa paññā natthi ajhāyato Yamhi jhānaṃ ca paññā ca sa ve nibbāṇasantike. There is no meditative concentration for him who lacks insight, and no insight for him who lacks meditative concentration. He in whom are found both meditative concentration and insight, indeed, is close to Nibbana.
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
@@haovan5273 Concentration and insight are indeed closely-related and intertwined. This is especially true once the rigtht view has been attained, then, for any further progress, you _need_ samadhi. And if you already have strong Samadhi, you _need_ discernment for further progerss too. And even before Stream Entry, where your Samadhi would still be a type of virtue, you need that very much to even attain the Right View. Yet, when it comes to targeted sevelopment, Right View comes absolutely before Samma Samadhi
@evgeniytsarkov5679
5 ай бұрын
Are you a Stream-Enterer?
@PotatoJim
5 ай бұрын
A stream enterer is very unlikely to declare himself as one, especially on an online platform. It would bring no benefit to either him or his viewers. It would only bring doubt and speculation and then instead of listening to what he actually has to say people would try to confirm or infirm his claim. It's actually more likely that people would disbelieve him and then just dismiss his videos. After listening to him for a while, I find that he is earnest, accurate and consistent in his dhamma videos and replies.
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
As Jim said, it would be foolish and troublesome for me to answer such questions, so I do not talk about it unless I see a really good reason to do so (and publically, there is almost never a situation where I think its beneficial xD)
@ryanhastings6465
5 ай бұрын
@@TheDhammaHub It also just doesn't make sense to call oneself that, because if you've done away with conceiving of yourself as anything (without yet removing the I as an arahant has) you just don't think of yourself in those terms or any terms.
@magicaree
5 ай бұрын
There is a remarkable amount of faith required to believe that stream entry is real. There seems to be some sort of karmic load that makes us truly believe it.
@thewisdomoption777
5 ай бұрын
This got me thinking about the 3rd Noble Truth: There is a way out of suffering. Who is getting out of suffering? Ignorance is the not seeing of the conditioned nature of arising things. In ignorance we take appearances to be the whole truth, automatically exaggerate the good and bad qualities of them, and instantly take it as being an independent thing or a person, moving completely by its own power and volition. When we suffer we take something that is not ours to be ours, because of habitual wrong views and fundamental delusion. Clarifying the conditionality, dependency on other and previous things, seeing what is affected by what, directly undermines afflictive emotions. Fantastic book for that is Dalai Lama's: How to see youself as you really are.
@OgdenM
5 ай бұрын
First thing: I strongly feel the "Can Not" language is problematic. It's one of the things that has irked me for quite awhile. I think it's probably more apt to say, "A sotāpanna or Arhat has no interest in doing X, Y and X and therefor will not do them." That feels like it is more wisdom based then "Can Not". It would mean that they know doing all of those things brings bad karma (or X thing just isn't worth doing). That they have have seen how those systems function first hand and there for, just will not do them. It's like, a lot of people stop drinking because they realize that the good feelings that you get from it are just not worth the aftermath. That even just having 1/2 a beer or less actually makes you sick and always has. You just didn't realize it before because you hadn't paid attention to it and therefor were not aware of it. And Buddhism at it's core is all about paying attention and being aware.. of everything. Knowing the causes of all feelings and thoughts, desires etc etc. As or Being a steam Enterer etc? The only reason I can see that lay people can't be fully liberated is the need to sustain oneself by having a job. Monks also work but it's different. It's to sustain the monastery and they take care of elders. Vrs lay people? Nope, 99.99999999% of us work with people that have no interest in Buddhism. In jobs that are toxic etc etc etc. We also don't for sure know we will be taken care of when we are old. Also there is a huge issue that no one even talks about what it is like to be a stream enter. Like, how do you make decisions as one? Or do you just wander around life doing whatever is asked of you? A few monastic teachers I've listened to in over 500+ hours of dhamma talks have been like, "You must act like there is a self and make decisions." The mere ability to act like something says there is still an I doing stuff.. and therefor them saying the above is utterly unhelpful at best and counter everything I've heard and read. Like, I'm pretty sure I've been in 4th Jhanna, possibly even 8th. But you know how it happened? Btw, this happened before I even really knew anything about Buddhism. I was sitting out side in my back yard, it was noisy and I was trying to meditate. I realized that all the noise was just fellow beings doing their things and let the anger go. I realized that I have never wanted to actually put in the effort to get/do the 9,999,999+ things I've always wanted to do because I don't feel like anything you have to put effort into is actually worth having. That all effort is suffering and does not make the good feeling you get when you complete a project or get something worth it. I've always been depressed because I don't have and can't do the stuff I want. Accepting that I don't want to put effort into getting or doing them made the depression vanish. Then I went further and just merged myself with everything around me. I listened to all the sounds, the smells, the feeling of the wind etc etc and just spread myself out into it and pulled it in to me. I accepted everything for what it was, just stuff. Just movement. "I" utterly vanished. I was just really complete and utter awareness of everything the senses were giving me. I wasn't engaging it it, I wasn't judging it, wasn't pushing it away. At least, I think that is what happened. I'm honestly not sure. I seem to have a memory of being aware but I can't remember any specifics of what happened. I sat like that for at least two hours (longest I've EVER sat.) I came out of it utterly at peace that lasted for weeks. Now? 1) Did I do something wrong? Was this not what Buddhism is? (Some teachers 100% say what I did is right.) 2) If it is right, what do I do now? I had NO interested in the world after this for two years but was faced with having to have a job, living with people that have worldly interests in shared housing etc etc. But, I can't become a monk so I started letting some worldly desire back in and honestly? It SUCKS. But, again, how can someone live in the normal world and not have worldly desire? Or a sense of self even? We have to make decisions to live.
@mechagodzyzzathotobliterat8094
5 ай бұрын
I think it's probably more apt to say, "[You have] no interest in becoming a monk and therefor will not"
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
Now that a very long comment xD I will comment a bit on what jumps out to me as important, if I miss anything, let me know! First, I do not think that a lay person cannot ebcome an Arahant, I think they can, even without "dying within 7 days"^^ (even though that might be kind of a "heretical" view) Second, the "can not" talk in the Suttas usually refers to intwntionality. If you have seen certain things as harmful, you cannot unsee that and you can no longer grosely act againstt that in some cases. When the Suttas say that an Arahant cannot have sex, they mean that they will not engage in it freely. Yet, there were also cases of monks/nuns being raped (you would be surprised by how many). In the same way, Arahants cannot kill, but they can cause the death of others, as the Suttas also describe. You probably get the idea, it is all about the craving/ignorance-born intentions that can no longer arise. Third, you do not lose the ability to make choices as a Stream Enterer. Your perspective just changes and with that, choices are of a different character. Your "leftover Kamma" still throws possible courses of action at you all the time and you _may_ go with them as long as they are not tainted by greed, aversion, or delusion. Yet, such choices are relatively "empty" of a "chooser" so to speak. It is more of a happening than a choice^^ Fourth, when "all" of the I vanishes, I see that as a sign of entering the first Jhana, but make of that what you wish^^ The Fourth Jhana, as I see it, also has a vanishing of all pain as painful and a few other things must kinda vanish before to get there. The Suttas describe the Fourth Jhana as very close to Arahantship, but I think it would be good that I point out that I view Jhana more as a "cultivated lifestyle without craving" and not so much as a cushion-state. I have many videos on that^^ And concernign your last two questiosn: Nobody can really confirm such things for you. In the end, you have to make the last call if you are indeed "beyond doubt". It sounds like the right direction though. And concernign the lay life, you might have to work, but you can also work without craving. That is _very possible_ and the craving is all that makes things "suck". The work in itself is absolutely neutral and it will more or less "do itself" when no craving is involved^^ Does that help?
@Sharerpenisis
5 ай бұрын
I've just watchd a few of your videos and noticed you consider yourself a sutta buddhist. I wanted to ask you if you've tried to learn pali to read the suttas in their original language and if so how have you managed to? There's very little resources on it online
@TheDhammaHub
5 ай бұрын
I thought about that for a while but ultimately drpped the idea again. I know "enough" Pali, to translate passages with a dictionary like the "digital Pali reader". It is also beneficial to look at the side-by-side translations of Sujato on Sutta central. More than that is not really necessary from my perspective. I only really "double check" if I find a suspicious section where I think the translator might have added to or subtracted from or simply used some creative freedom
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