Thanks for the heads up👍🏻 companies today sure can make a product look good on camera. But that amount of runoff is unacceptable!
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
yes, way to bad to be even remotely usable. Maybe if the Dressed the wheel 80% down, the wobble would be less of an issue?? hahaha.... not happening here buddy. Thank you AP!
@rugerfarming5387
4 ай бұрын
One reason i am strictly a hand filer. It took me years to master hand filing but final after about 12 yrs of cussing my filing. Boom it all came together. I advise people learn how to hand file . it dosnt matter how many chains ya got. handle filing can be done out in the field and only takes a few minutes. Thanks for the review Oakie.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
hand filing is sure excellent and as long as you keep the saw out of the dirt or metal, it can be a quick deal getting back to cutting well again. I just would like to have options for when I get a bit behind. Thank you again!
@BobbySixguns
4 ай бұрын
After seeing that run out, I'm glad I spent the money on the Oregon. I had actually looked into some of the Amazon options when I was upgrading from the Harbor Freight. Ultimately, my decision was based on past experiences with the Oregon grinders, I had used them at previous employer's and knew what to expect as far as it quality. Excellent video and info!
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Man, I sure would like to have one of them Oregon Units. I keep getting bit by the knockoff cheap things. I actually need to do a video recapping all of the junk I have had that literally is not worth buying. Can you tell me what Oregon unit you got?
@BobbySixguns
4 ай бұрын
@@oakiewoodsman I have the 520-120
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Bobby. That sure looks like a nice one and in the upper echelon!
@BertsCustomCuts
4 ай бұрын
The face of arbor may not be square. I have found on my timbertough grinders that occasionally the paper label on wheel will make the wheel run out side to side. I have a video on my channel with the way I set mine up.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and leaving some tips. I have wondered what would happen if I tried rotating the assembly around but I really do not have the time for it!
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead
4 ай бұрын
Dang that sucks. I wanted that grinder to work for you Mr Joe. I love both my oregon grinders.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Me too! I want to see your setup some time man!
@MillersStumpsandFirewood712
4 ай бұрын
Love watching, thanks for sharing
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I sure appreciate you being here and letting me know you enjoy the videos. Thank you again and thanks for watching!
@ChippyOutdoors
4 ай бұрын
I have the same machine only quirk I find Is the chain clamp doesn't clamp well and other issue but doesn't bother me much is you can force the head to move la bit. The stone quality in my case caused the same run out, when I used better quality stone and cbn wheel fixed the run out on the machine I have hopefully if you dig deeper it fixes your run out and vibration problem ***edit*** I use tecomec stone cbn I dont recall name off top of my head
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I certainly eventually want a good working quality machine with a CBN wheel. I think it would be a worthwhile investment for sure! Thank you for sharing.
@randydeskins9359
3 күн бұрын
I also have the same looking grinder. I use the CBN wheel. Yes you can apply too much force when grinding but for homeowner use I would definitely it again.
@blacksmokejoe5827
4 ай бұрын
I have a Timber Tuff its a good sharpner but it has a few of the same quirks the cam take alot of pressure to hold the chain till you get it properly adjusted and the feel for it. One thing i really dont care like is all the cheep plastics or pot metal where there is threds but were only pay $100 what do we expect.. The wheels that come with them some are really poor quality and are not unsable i bought better ones. If the shaft has run out i put a indicator on mine it was good only a few thou. the washer and caps screw are not in a machined pilot like the wheel is so it will wobble some. If your shaft has excesive run out im sure Vevor make it Right i never had a problem with them. Maybe i need to make a video on improving the Vevor one!
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
If I would have purchased this item, it would have surely gone back for an exchange or a refund. If I had time to tinker, it would be interesting to troubleshoot it some more. I am not going to pitch it (though I probably should) cause I have few ideas like crazyfeller mentioned below. Thank you for sharing and watching!
@blacksmokejoe5827
4 ай бұрын
Yes you can dress the wheel on it to true will help till you take it off but it still may run out of balance and vibrate but it will work. I marked my wheels in and out with a witness hub shaft to wheel also it helps them run better. I had two Nelson grinders to that are super quality wheels do some too if your not careful with the backer paper on the wheels also.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
interesting. Thank you
@toddcaskey9984
4 ай бұрын
Morning , I think Brock dropped the box 🤪
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I dunno man. I cannot imagine what would do this!
@crazyfeller5704
4 ай бұрын
👍👍 I did a video in mine a few months ago- more for grinding for Indiana Doug. Same issues. Take the wheel off, it will still wobble. Mine has a really bad vibration. Will relegate mine to rakers most likely.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
You know, if I start grinding my chains with another grinder someday, maybe this would work out quite well. If you dress the wheel flat or on a slight angle, that little wobble will not matter would it? Thank you for bringing this up!
@crazyfeller5704
4 ай бұрын
You can shim the wheel and you can dress it as well. It’s possible to get both radial and axial play out- but when you remove the wheel or if it spins on the arbor, start over again!
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Ya, if I was a stage where I felt like I had some free time to tinker, I wouldn’t mind giving it a shot. For now, I believe I may just hand file or EzzDoo it!
@mattfleming86
4 ай бұрын
My Oregon has a little runout not in the motor but in the bushing on the end of the shaft. If I have bad wobble I can often clock the bushing/wheel and reduce it. Sometime it takes a few tries to get it running smooth. With yours either your arbor bushing was machined incorrectly or the shaft is bent.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Do in your opinion, is this one worse than what you have seen on yours even when it isn't quite happy? Thank you Matt!
@mattfleming86
4 ай бұрын
@@oakiewoodsman I just get a "rumble" and I can tell on the wheel that it is only touching in one area... but it is way way less than that. The way the screw wobbles I think yours is in the motor shaft but I could be wrong
@christophercollins3460
4 ай бұрын
They all have some runout. Try changing your wheel. It may reduce when you dress the wheel.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing @christophercollins3460. Would the arbor stop wobbling if it was just the wheel?
@patrickvennard838
4 ай бұрын
I am saving for a Stihl grinder. Thanks for the info Joe.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I actually have not seen one of them. I should take a look. Thank you!
@joecasatelli4825
4 ай бұрын
Got 2 oregon grinders and one vevor at work, similar but not the same. Clamp sux but can be fixed. Disappointing but can be fixed. Get what you pay for for sure
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Can you share what Oregon ones you have? There are a few options and i am trying to get an idea of what people use most and have good luck with.
@gaztipton972
20 күн бұрын
You're right, I had the exact same problems. I think I can see the bolt on your motor spindle is way out of center. I actually bought the exact same one you have, I had to re-machine the collars. Also, I had to beef up the the chain vice and the bracket you pull the chain against. I bought mine from Ebay and was going to return it but Vevor offered me a 50% discount so it only cost me about £50, which made it viable to put right.
@oakiewoodsman
20 күн бұрын
That is cool that they gave you break and that you had the ability to take care of the poor production issues. I am unfortunately not able to repair this as of now and would really like to get an Oregon one. Thank you for watching and sharing your experience with us all!
@gaztipton972
20 күн бұрын
@@oakiewoodsman Just another note, once I sorted the problems with the grinder I purchased a £100 CBN wheel from Baltic Abrasives, but to my dissapointment the CBN wheel had a wobble in a portion of the wheel. I'd had it a while before I fitted it so could not return it, by careful bending and soft hammering in the high spots I managed to true it up within an acceptable 3 thou. So to everyone who's going to buy an expensive CBN wheel, check them for wobble as soon as it's delivered.
@oakiewoodsman
19 күн бұрын
That is a great tip! I would love to have one of those myself. This is a GREAT tip. Thanks for sharing once again
@nseric1233
4 ай бұрын
I think it’s the wheel. Did you try the thinner one? If it doesn’t wobble then it’s the wheel not the arbor. I have the even cheaper one and if you don’t get the wheel on it perfectly it wobbles.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I actually did. I was very hopeful when I saw that the thinner one was mounted to the machine when I got it and it had a wobble. I thought to myself, maybe the larger wheel would be better. But, it sure was not. Thank you for watching and brainstorming with us!
@karlrovey
4 ай бұрын
I hope to move to regular hand sharpening instead of using a 2-in-1 sharpener soon. The 2-in-1 is great if you only use one or two different chain guages. As far as hats go, I rotate between different hats from the local farmer's co-op.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I am wanting to do some more research on the 2 in 1 setups. I have a suspicion that I would like to test out. We will see about that however. Thank you again KR!
@karlrovey
4 ай бұрын
@oakiewoodsman I mixed up my terminology a bit. I meant pitch rather than gauge. They're great for someone like me, who only uses one saw and chain pitch. If you use a variety, it's probably better to stick with the more traditional filing method rather than getting a 2-in-1 for each chain pitch you use.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
@@karlrovey Appreciate that but i still want to give them a show and learn some more about them. Initially I am not impressed with them but many people really like them so there may be something there
@karlrovey
4 ай бұрын
@oakiewoodsman Understandable. They can definitely be a time saver if there's one type of chain that gets more use than the others. While it won't compare to a sharpening done by someone like Buckin' Billy Ray, it will get the chain sufficiently sharp for most users. It will get you cutting again quickly if you got your chain in the dirt, or hit a nail or glass in the tree.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
@@karlrovey I like options so I can better discuss options. Never know what you might find may be a better fit for you.
@902hand7
4 ай бұрын
Yes Sir Oakie, she's got a wobble 😬😬
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
kinda sad cause it is so darn new. I thought it was going to help me out for some circumstances. oh well.... some day I will get something that works well.
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead
4 ай бұрын
The entire motor needs to be replaced. Probably cost more than a new one
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
yep, not happening! hahaha... thanks man!
@Super-Dave-Outdoors
4 ай бұрын
Even the Tecomec super jolly is way off on one of the degree scales and that one is like 400$
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
4 ай бұрын
👊
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Do you just put a physical mark where you want it after you figure it out? I cannot remember, but are you using CBN?
@antoncarweb5070
15 күн бұрын
i have the same machine but its as strait as an arrow, its perfect. 👍
@oakiewoodsman
15 күн бұрын
Awesome! Great to hear! You using CBN on it or a stone type wheel?
@missypeppers3193
3 ай бұрын
I have the same one and it does wobble too
@oakiewoodsman
3 ай бұрын
interesting. Such a shame! There was so much potential there but the unit is just too poorly made to be a precision tool.
@timkelley6616
4 ай бұрын
I bought the cheaper vevor sharpener on Amazon and less than three chains in the whole shaft started to come out of alignment grinding into the safety cover.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
do they have a less expensive one than this???? That is pretty bad that the Harbor freight one seems to the the low price winner. Thank you for watching and sharing
@joecasatelli4825
4 ай бұрын
Also use cbn and no arbor issues
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Joe, can you tell me if the CBN wheels last quite some time. They are an investment and I would hope they would grind quite a few chains. Thank you much
@ronaldbrown7780
4 ай бұрын
Thx for the information 👍
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
U R Welcome RB. Thank you for being here once again!
@zeromark202
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for being honest. I’m so tired of junk throw away products. Sharpening a saw chain has to be precise and with a grinder your not just getting one tooth off by free-handing it with a file the grinder is ruining all the teeth with incorrect angles.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
yes sir indeed. You cannot possibly work well with this setup at all..... CF mentioned using it for rakers however and I could see that working out well. Imagine and good grinder with CBN cutting the teeth and this one taking a small nibble off of the raker. Thank you Mark!
@zeromark202
4 ай бұрын
Yeah seen them setup for rakers before, but sets them all the same vs setting them to the tooth length with a gauge. I have been just tapping them with the rotary grinding bit.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
ya... I am thinking that if I get another grinder setup and all the teeth are equal, then I can try the raker deal. Certainly wouldn't work otherwise
@stokermeister3
4 ай бұрын
I don’t have on the cost of chain sharpening tools is so expensive for a good quality product i find that hand sharpening works best 👍
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I can understand that for sure. Thank you for watching and sharing!
@joeparker7508
4 ай бұрын
What's that mic you use
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
DJI MIC..... they sound great but I believe I had another mic failure today once again. If you have questions, please let me know.
@hayesrutherford9415
4 ай бұрын
Looks like the shaft is bent. Poor quality control?
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I think it is machined incorrectly or the face of the shaft isn't square. Thanks for watching
@tedneitzel
4 ай бұрын
Tbh my Harbour freight grinder works just fine until my grandkids list a very important piece of it lol. Now its a paperweight!
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
What part is lost friend?
@tedneitzel
4 ай бұрын
@@oakiewoodsman it takes a special deal that tightens the chain so it can be ground.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
@@tedneitzel isn't it like a bike brake handle and cable setup? I cannot remember what mine was like.
@tedneitzel
4 ай бұрын
@@oakiewoodsman like the handle that's adjust the seat up and down the quick change deal. Had like a cam type deal to it.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
@@tedneitzel gotcha
@Imageloading...
4 ай бұрын
Shaft obviously bent. Amazon would have replaced the whole unit
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Yes, had I purchased it, It would have not been an issue to return. I have noticed an increasing amount of "non returnable" items however. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@keparti66
4 ай бұрын
You can fix a lot of wobble by adding gasket paper shims between the disc, but your machine looks like it's rly bad😂
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Thank you much for weighing in! I dont think I want to mess with it much more
@naturundhund
4 ай бұрын
😎👍. Nice Maschine Greetings from Germany Peter Husqvarna-Pit 😎
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter! Appreciate you being here once again!
@johngardner3020
4 ай бұрын
I use an oregon 620-120. It wasn't cheap but it gets used alot. For something seeing alot of use, my belief is that you only hurt yourself messing around with junk.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
That machine looks fantastic sir! You grind with CBN? If so, does the wheel seem to last a long time.
@johngardner3020
4 ай бұрын
@oakiewoodsman I haven't had it long enough to wear out the wheels it came with yet. The pink ones are prone to cooking the teeth so it's something to be mindful of. I will be getting the CBN kind once the pink one is used up. It's all too easy to grind away too much too fast. I definitely messed up a few figuring it out.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I just watched some reviews on the 620. Love that it clamps the chain in position when you pull the handle down!
@johngardner3020
4 ай бұрын
I bought it from saw suppliers now that I think of it.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
did you really! that is awesome man!
@davidbulich1254
4 ай бұрын
I'll stick to my handfile
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I understand!
@yungsmile7546
21 күн бұрын
Better stay with hand filing. Takes time, but lasts and it can be done in the field.
@oakiewoodsman
21 күн бұрын
I grind with diamond stones and a rotary tool at time and I also hand file. Sometimes I get a chain back in shape with the rotary and then touch it up with the file. Depends on what I am trying to accomplish. Thankyou!
@OpenAirAdventure
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing Joe. That's too bad it's bent. It's not good for the teeth, take to much off.
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Yes sir. Though I like filing I would like to have some more options for testing and getting back to good more quickly. One of my least favorite things is when I am in a hurry and I swap a chain and have a dulled chain hanging on the way. I wouldn't mind getting it serviceable so I can slap it on and go!
@toddcaskey9984
4 ай бұрын
Mornin
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
Good morning!
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
4 ай бұрын
👍🆙OW
@JohnChrysostom101
4 ай бұрын
Vevor is trash
@oakiewoodsman
4 ай бұрын
I am not sure I would go that far. I have a friend that purchases a lot of their items and some of the stuff he is very happy with. They are certainly more like HF used to be back in the day. All of the stuff has improved greatly in those lines. I am sure there are some Vevor items worth looking into. If all else failes, make sure you take a look at the return policy before you buy. If there is anything you do not like upon receiving, you could certainly make a return.
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