Shows how to reach all 3 keys and the exit in PC Doom II level 19, The Citadel. (Actually you only need 2 keys: The red key, and either one of the others.) Enable Captions for on-screen notes, and see the full video description for more info, including links to maps showing the locations of the keys and the exit.
@metalmex999
4 жыл бұрын
And yet another 20 minutes wasted going in the same circle hundreds of times. You saved the day again! Thank you once more M8!!
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
Quite welcome. :)
@Adams_nuclear_channel
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@souprcrackerstheonly
3 жыл бұрын
Tellin' ya. Saves my ass yet again.
@user-id5wv1zs4m
Жыл бұрын
Round and round a million fcking times
@robertwarf3316
Жыл бұрын
Haha came here to say this. I spent way too much time on this level. It was a floor trip all along
@kalcaron
10 жыл бұрын
That turn at 20 seconds, I would never have figured that out....
@ClassicDOOM
10 жыл бұрын
That's the main reason I play with the music off... otherwise it's easy to miss the sounds of off-screen events, like a door momentarily opening around a corner. ;)
@ZVolgogradZ
7 ай бұрын
I definitely would not have
@MangakuH
4 жыл бұрын
You are a true hero. Thanks, like almost everyone here, i was going nuts trying to find the exit.
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad to be of service.
@poiuytrewqmnbvcxz236
3 жыл бұрын
Something that took me a half hour of running in circles took you not even 2 minutes. Damn!
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Well it helps to not have monsters (seriously who puts monsters in a game and then expects people to play it, that's crazy). Aaand there might have been 1 or 2* practice runs first to get the time down. *million
@DragonMagi
8 жыл бұрын
What madman designed this level. Good luck finding anything remotely like THIS in Doom 4!
@Harcon_
6 жыл бұрын
the originals where not perfect
@spectre722
6 жыл бұрын
figures i find dinosaurs stuck in the past here this level right here is an example why the classics were not perfect
@HughMansonMD
6 жыл бұрын
As someone who picked up the classics and are playing them for the first time, this and the 2nd level in Nightmares Made Flesh are the only levels, out of the 60 I've played, I didn't like, and I really liked this level until I was trying to find the yellow and blue skulls. Both are good in their own right but that being said, I like classic vanilla Doom more than Doom 4, and without nostalgia glasses. And then you can talk about classic Doom mods all day...
@zenksren8206
5 жыл бұрын
@Discount Galactus Yeah how dare a game focus on the one thing it's good at i.e. the fucking shooting and not muddy it in obtuse/cheap nonsense.
@RetroDeathReviews666
6 жыл бұрын
That goddamn blue key was completely hidden. No clue how I found it as a kid. Same with the yellow one, but at least you get that tiny hint of the door sound. Replaying the entire series (Ultimate, this, Final, and 64).
@Bajso84
14 күн бұрын
I think you only have to lower 2 of the exit room bars to get through. But yes I discovered that once I got all keys already 😭
@Mintylight
9 жыл бұрын
Ah damn, I had completely forgotten how to get to the blue key! These are great! Thanks alot ^^ Replaying this and having a blast! (Pun intended).
@ClassicDOOM
9 жыл бұрын
Couldn't think of a better old-school FPS to replay. Hope to see more on your channel. Cheers!
@zippo71111
2 жыл бұрын
0:50 , i remember spending hours finding this on psx doom. At the end i just pressed every wall on the map out of frustration. No walkthroughs back then aside from magazines that had the potential of having a walkthrough of doom. Tough times.
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah back in the day online sources of help for any game were mostly message boards or a fan-written FAQ if you were lucky. For anyone playing PSX Doom today, try classicdoom.com/doomhelp.htm#psxd
@fianchetto5954
2 жыл бұрын
This is the first level I searched a solution for, it's funny because I just type in "Doom 2 Level 19" and the first result is Doom 2 Level 19 Blue key. So clearly I wasn't the only one having trouble lol
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, you're now part of a hardly-exclusive-anymore club that's been growing for decades. ;)
@EATSFALCONPUNCH
9 жыл бұрын
this helps greatly, thank you, I've been stuck on this one for too long
@ClassicDOOM
9 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it helped. Cheers
@SexyPug
4 жыл бұрын
Par time: 3:30 me: 46:35 and thats because I followed your guide if I didn't it would've been longer. Thanks :)
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
Glad the video helped. Cheers :)
@StarWarsRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
2022, playing through all the dooms. It really frustrates me..some of these levels. Impossible puzzle solving is not a fun challenge. Thank you for your brief videos they've helped me on more than one occasion now!
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear the videos are useful. If you get stuck anywhere else, the playlist in the description covers a lot of the common problem areas, or just drop a comment. Cheers!
@ceipol4934
3 жыл бұрын
John Romero was drunk when he did that level
@MykeeeC
2 жыл бұрын
This even helped on the PS1 version of Doom II in the Ultimate Doom compilation. I nearly f*cking snapped my controller after 4 sessions attempting this level before seeing this video which saved my hacked PS1 Classic from needing a new controller. Thanks you LEGEND!
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
Glad the video was useful, and the controller survived. :D Cheers!
@Paul07791
9 ай бұрын
Nice, I'm also playing on a hacked PS Classic. Brilliant machines, I got emulation issues on "Mansion" level though.
@hasan.almohsin
9 жыл бұрын
I figured out that I need only 2 keys to get out, although I don't like that don't get 100% kills, so the blue key derived me crazy, thanks for the fast walk-through :)
@ClassicDOOM
9 жыл бұрын
Quite welcome. Happy Dooming. :)
@adammclaughlin845
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few maps where I just want to get the hell out ASAP, nothing else matters.
@DVTHEFOX
6 жыл бұрын
Damn you, Switches and Blue Key!
@apelayo909
3 жыл бұрын
Man I spent almost an hour till I came across your page. Thank you 7years later👍👍👍 today 3/26/21
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video. Cheers
@johntyrrell1549
3 жыл бұрын
Doom 2 had too many "secrets" that you actually needed to find to solve the level. I don't know if it's Sandy Peterson but it's poor level design imo
@imyourgodmachine
5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are excellent! You do not get enough recognition for them!
@ClassicDOOM
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@Justforvisit
Жыл бұрын
DOOM I was such a classic run and gun, fast paced non stop action, just some "easy" riddles here and there and only "big" secrets required you to solve some harder ones. DOOM II on the other hand, even just getting to the exit is such a massive chore by completely overdoing the puzzle part as mandatory in way too many levels with way too many steps in between that are way too often off-screen as well....with nothing too shoot at for MINUTES..... To quote a quite famous Internet persona here: "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!" And after this rant: THANK YOU for your videos man!
@ClassicDOOM
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and sharing your perspective. And glad to hear you like the videos. Cheers!
@Tone_AY
3 жыл бұрын
I figured that I would need to get up high to go the the red building but i couldn't figure out how until i watched this. Would've spent over an hour and gone insane.
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Glad the video helped. Cheers!
@william21186
4 жыл бұрын
I might be late but I'm playing this on my XBox 360....i just missed the good old days when Doom and Duke Nukem were the best....thank you for the videos 👍👍
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
It's never too late for Doom. ;) Glad you like the videos. Cheers
@calidrgreen
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video! Short and to the point. VERY helpful!
@viviana1738
4 жыл бұрын
I just got this game because of a friend. First time I needed help. Thanks man.
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
Any time. Cheers
@goodyearrex
12 жыл бұрын
i've been fucking stuck 2 hours of my life !! thanks
@walidnassif9499
4 жыл бұрын
Here i am, around 25 years from this game’s release, playing in in 2020 on ps4 pro and actually still enjoying it
@bongle3726
4 жыл бұрын
I'm 21 playing on Switch. Why did no-one tell me Doom is a good game?
@Hateful_Rex
3 жыл бұрын
after 46:23 playing this game on this level in doom eternal...finally it's finished thank you, you're doing god's work
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Glad the video helped. Cheers
@Hateful_Rex
3 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicDOOM believe me man, the video helped a lot
@liar9072
3 жыл бұрын
After not playing doom 2 for a while this really helped :)
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Cool, glad to hear it.
@craigrobertson1629
3 жыл бұрын
"I am once again, coming back to your videos to figure what I meant to do"
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. :) If you ever get stuck again, the playlist linked in the video description covers many of the most common problem areas in the game; or just drop a comment. Cheers
@nerd_in_norway
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this map was driving me nuts!
@ClassicDOOM
Жыл бұрын
Glad to be of service. Cheers :)
@godzillaxtc869
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you made my night dude
@Predelnik
5 жыл бұрын
Didn't find blue key but guessed that can finish without it luckily, now I see that it's pretty tricky to find.
@CombatMagic
Ай бұрын
I got red and yellow right away, but I was SURE that blue key would give a secret exit or something so I just kept running… 20 minutes and gave up, finished the map and came here to see it wasn’t needed at all 🙃
@ClassicDOOM
Ай бұрын
Glad the video was useful. :) Cheers!
@nelosangero
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I was running in circles
@ClassicDOOM
Жыл бұрын
Quite welcome. Glad the video was useful.
@aranerem3767
3 жыл бұрын
This level was tough. I got really confused
@k.o.gthekingofgames913
Жыл бұрын
Bruh I would’ve never figure this out thank you for posting this you literally saved time thank you so much I have no idea how anyone could’ve figured this out I would’ve never known that I needed to get to the red area then decide on a fucking portal on which one is the right one! SERIOUSLY HOW DID PEOPLE FIGURE THIS OUT BACK IN THE DAY!?
@ClassicDOOM
Жыл бұрын
Back then there were no smartphones and no streaming, and that meant having a lot more free time and incentive to figure stuff out. ;D (Actually there were still internet forums and even printed guidebooks which helped with some stuff.) But anyway, glad the video was useful. Cheers!
@basilelmasri7962
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. The level design is horrible. Both the yellow and bluye key were hidden, the yellow key you had a hint by hearing the door open but the blue key was completely hidden. I don't know why everyone complained about yellow, blue was far worse!
@RetroDeathReviews666
6 жыл бұрын
honestly
@winlover37
5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I'm going through my first playthrough. I love the gameplay, but the inevitable roadblocks I hit on some levels are just awful. Running around in circles for a half hour until you give up and look it up on KZitem is not fun. Especially when you find out it was cryptic bullshit that I would never have found out on my own. Ugh.
@ZoidiusPlasmaReaper
12 жыл бұрын
thanks! i've been stuck on this level for about 4 hours!
@nexusshark
4 жыл бұрын
At least you can finish the level without the blue key, but I just had to get the last for general principle.
@magic00squirrel
2 жыл бұрын
What a weird map! I kind of love it and hate it at the same time.
@SynthLizard8
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, managed the yellow key but not the others.
@brymsd8895
4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help. Cheers!
@beezcheese
3 жыл бұрын
Man, FUCK this level. It took me 30 damn minutes to realize "well fuck I need I guide" and here I am
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Well that's why we're here. Glad to be of service. Cheers
@failedabortion1894
3 жыл бұрын
I just finished the level for the first time. Couldn't find the blue key though. Doom 2 has some confusing levels...
@Paul07791
9 ай бұрын
Always get stuck on this pain in the arse level. Thanks for the guide.
@ClassicDOOM
9 ай бұрын
Glad the video was useful. Cheers.
@MasterGamer-zl7hq
Жыл бұрын
You are a life saver tysm.
@ClassicDOOM
Жыл бұрын
Happy to help. Cheers.
@AE111TRD
12 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the Video! it helped a lot :D
@KomodolaiTesla
11 жыл бұрын
You are a scholar and a gentlemen, dat f*cking blue key!!
@Batou667
3 жыл бұрын
0:20 how in a million years would a normal person realise to do this!? The level design in the early doom games is complete bullshit at times. Thanks for the video, appreciated
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that part's not super obvious. Fortunately a player doesn't need the yellow key to exit, as long as the other two are found. Anyway, glad you liked the video. Cheers
@twelvesevven4678
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I agree with this way too much. There's a stupid teleporter you have to know exists on level 15 too, that you don't visually see. These levels are basically designed to have you run out of options and either press interact on every wall, or have you look up a guide. Just did level 20, and I can say with certainty once I've completed this game, I'm not coming back to it. Thanks for the video dude, really clear and quick. Glad it exists, as niche as it is.
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
@@twelvesevven4678 Glad the video was useful. If you ever get stuck anywhere else, the Playlist in the description covers a lot of the problem areas in the game, and on the website there are maps for every level. Cheers.
@twelvesevven4678
3 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicDOOM Cheers man, I finished Doom 2 UV last night. Citadel and level 15 were headscratchers for me.
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
@@twelvesevven4678 Cool, congrats on beating it. 🤘
@johneygd
9 ай бұрын
I always found those door sounds soooo funny to hear😁😁😁
@WordsmithVG
11 жыл бұрын
If I ever meet Sandy Peterson, I'm going to slap him in the wiener for making this level so obtuse. Thanks for the help!
@SolidFreeLoader
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud... Was really helpful... :-)
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Cool, glad to hear it. Cheers!
@lasse6435
5 жыл бұрын
Cheers, after getting the red key I tried to to see if I could squeeze through, which you of course cannot. Then I fairly quickly got the yellow and were stuck on the blue till I saw this. I felt like it was unfair how were you supposed to guess both of those secret doors to get the blue key?? And then I realize, as you say, you actually only ever needed the two -_- Thanks for making this :)
@ClassicDOOM
5 жыл бұрын
Quite welcome. Cheers. :)
@basharen1444
9 жыл бұрын
Awsome thanks 0:50 i was stuck there.
@ClassicDOOM
9 жыл бұрын
Bas Haren Glad the video helped. Cheers.
@facerip356
6 жыл бұрын
Seriously. Fuck. This. Level. I wasted hours trying this on my own. I couldn't get to the blue key, nevermind that I still had to get the yellow, which I wouldn't have found with 100 hours of playtime. God damn cryptic horse shit. Thanks man for the upload.
@ClassicDOOM
6 жыл бұрын
Happy to help.
@warmac88
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome
@Eric-Kun
4 жыл бұрын
42 min ! Ahhhh , thx
@adammclaughlin845
3 жыл бұрын
First time I played this map was on PSX and there is no save function in-game, you either do it or you don't. It took me over an hour and I was ready to cry with boredom and frustration. The level never seemed to play the same way twice. Definitely not a fun level, probably the only map worse than The Pit.
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is one of those notorious levels that generally annoy players, even across multiple ports and platforms.
@Irrelevant402
4 жыл бұрын
This fucking level! I tried my damnest and had to give up and cheat. That fucking gold key was bull shit! If I'm impatient now you should have seen me as a kid. Thanks for the video.
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
Glad the video helped. Cheers!
@sackboy8472
5 күн бұрын
Thanks, just been playing the new nightdive studios remaster and got stuck on this level. Great game, but this level is bad. How did people figure it out back in the day? Spam the interaction button on every wall, and hope for the best?
@ClassicDOOM
5 күн бұрын
Well a couple years before Id Software made Doom II they made Wolfenstein 3D, which did encourage players to spam-activate miles of identical walls looking for Secrets, so there is that. :) But yeah, this level can be obtuse and confusing. This video's pretty popular as a result.
@Trancelistic
2 жыл бұрын
years later and i'm still stuck in this place (blue key only)
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the video or the stuff in the description was useful. :)
@Trancelistic
2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicDOOM Ye i solved it on my own, but I wanted to type my frustation of this map:P
@Trancelistic
2 жыл бұрын
Btw, its sad there is not rly a reward going to that new place. Its basicly wasting ammo on monsters there.
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
@@Trancelistic Yeah a lot of maps in the classic Doom series have places you don't really need to visit, unless you're going for 100% scores.
@Trancelistic
2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicDOOM Yeah:( But oh well. Still a great game.
@VigilantKnight005
3 жыл бұрын
I've been playing this on "DOOM Eternal". This level was so frustrating.
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Hope the video was useful. Cheers.
@NBKDan
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@BrubMan
Жыл бұрын
I seriously think these stages were designed to get people to buy the strategie guide.. I don't know how anyone would figure this out on their own. It's a needle in a haystack
@ClassicDOOM
Жыл бұрын
You might be right. [Grabbing bullhorn] But don't buy strategy guides, people! No no, the one and only strategy is to subscribe to this channel, and uh, get all your friends to subscribe too! ;D Ahem, anyway, hope the video was useful. Cheers. :)
@burgerthief5333
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video for a very confusing map
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@AlexOjideagu2
8 жыл бұрын
The Gameboy version completely cuts out the red building leading to the Blue Key, it's much easier to get the Blue Key
@leruty
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again I just needed to know that you have to get into the red building and how :D (Only watched till 1:01) And I have managed to survive the ambush of the zombiemen and shotgun guys (1:00 go in there and activate the switch) in the first try xD
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
Doom On, marine. Cheers :)
@-Toaster-
4 жыл бұрын
The level design for Doom 2 is so bad.
@-Toaster-
4 жыл бұрын
@AnArkhAm Yes it is. Just look at all these comments on this video.
@Hateful_Rex
3 жыл бұрын
more like annoying, but cool
@lonniemeyer7232
Жыл бұрын
Mine must have a glitch. The platform won’t raise to get thru the door to get the red key. Oh well
@ClassicDOOM
Жыл бұрын
Off to the left of the door is a window high up on the wall. Shoot that window (or any point below it) with bullets or pellets. See this video and its full description for more info: kzitem.info/news/bejne/w4p7maWDrYJ8mGU
@dancore95
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ranchdressing86
6 жыл бұрын
cheers
@it_is_ni
3 жыл бұрын
I love Doom 2 but this level is frustrating in a non-fun way.
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Many others feel the same... this is a pretty popular video on the channel. ;)
@ivanilayakimova2526
2 жыл бұрын
This level is full of elevator buttons.Yes.
@firstnamelastname6978
4 жыл бұрын
How did anyone figure this out back in the 90s
@LedmeisterOnYouTube
4 жыл бұрын
Very slow and nearly-empty internet, no streaming anything, and no such thing as a smartphone, meant few distractions or sources of help. So for many people that meant figure the game out yourself or give up. Giving up meant going back to the world above... so figuring it out looked pretty good. ;D
@leandrofernandez7314
7 жыл бұрын
tnx for help pal
@Ryo
13 күн бұрын
I guess its different on doom+2 cause that spot for the yellow isnt there
@ClassicDOOM
13 күн бұрын
The yellow key is still there in the new release. In the video there's an invisible floor trigger (crossed here at about 0:17 seconds), which temporarily opens the wall leading to the yellow key. In any case, you can still exit the level without that key so long as you have the other two keys.
@swordkingx4874
2 жыл бұрын
......how is anyone supposed to figure these levels out? Their so complicated. Take yesterday, I forget the level name, but I spawned inside a square room with 2 doors, one is the level door, the other is supposed to be the one i use to get out, but the door wouldn't open, nether would. I thought my game was bugged until i bumped the controller and fired a shot which opened the door. How was i to know i had to do that? There was no indication of that.
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 90s the game had an instruction manual that mentioned shootable surfaces. Today it seems most old games are repackaged as download-and-play, with no reference material. But if you get stuck anywhere else, check the playlist in the description or just drop a comment.
@swordkingx4874
2 жыл бұрын
I'll keep that in mind. Still this is pretty annoying, I guess the reason the guides weren't reprinted is as most devs would say, look it up online,
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
@@swordkingx4874 That's basically this channel's _raison d'être._ ;)
@kutnerak
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the green switch thats by the blue key does, anyone know?
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
To the left of that switch is a short lift/elevator, which is in the lowered position next to the blue key. The switch was meant to drop the lift temporarily, and allow the player to grab the key and ride back up. But due to a flaw in map design the lift is permanently down.
@kutnerak
3 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicDOOM ah, that explains why nothing happens when hit that switch, spent a few minutes trying to figure out where it went, gave up in the end. now I know
@igano111
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Wow, getting to the blue key is ridiculous. It's also completely pointless. What a waste of time.
@edwardhernandez6668
4 жыл бұрын
Lol I glitched through the candles.
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
Like this?: kzitem.info/news/bejne/qHyq15uarWdpfqA :)
@edwardhernandez6668
4 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicDOOM No from the otherside!! :0 I tried what you did but it didn't work. I did it on the switch version, don't know if it makes a difference. :)
@dkong3687
5 жыл бұрын
thx And thumbs up :)
@madkvideo
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the fuck where they thinking when they designed this map
@davidthenerd9192
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks show me a 2 more keys
@High_Priest_Jonko
7 жыл бұрын
Why do I get teleported after I grab the yellow skull?
@ClassicDOOM
7 жыл бұрын
It may or may not happen depending on a few things... There's a 1-way, single-use teleport line right by that key, and at most Skill levels a Demon will be there, teleporting out upon detecting the player; But other monsters can also trigger it if that Demon is dead or missing. Some game engines and source-ports also allow a player to teleport (if nothing else has), but some don't, and this can vary depending on the port and its compatibility settings.
@baggyobeast
3 жыл бұрын
This level design really takes the piss! I used to love doom for the ps1 but on the xbox 1 you have to play this stupid map design. How would you work that out on your own!
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 90s, long-time gamers were used to banging their heads on obtuse puzzles for hours. ;) And yeah, PS1 Doom was great.
@LeandroBarbksa
3 жыл бұрын
Having to watch a video to understand how to complete a level is frustrating. This game is super fun, but the level design is shitty at best. Why make it so convoluted and weird?
@ClassicDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, some of the puzzles in the game seem obtuse or unnecessary. But if you ever get stuck again, this playlist covers some of the most common problem areas: kzitem.info/door/PL368ECB66150EDC35
@freedomfromreligion409
10 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't make it so you can get stuck and have to restart, its not a challenge, its just frustrating
@bobbobbins4877
2 ай бұрын
Some very questionable map design.
@ClassicDOOM
2 ай бұрын
Some, definitely. ;)
@outsiderx7576
2 жыл бұрын
Doom 2, puzzle. Not what I wanted from it at all. Lol.
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
If you ever get stuck again, this playlist covers some of the most common problem areas: kzitem.info/door/PL368ECB66150EDC35
@outsiderx7576
2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicDOOM thanks a lot
@Justforvisit
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, seems id software confused DOOM II with a puzzle solving game and forgot that it's actually a shooter...
@mastergame1311
12 күн бұрын
man
@redshady4182
4 жыл бұрын
Doom 2 is really boring... I play it after probably 7 or 8 years without touch it and I forgot most of the paths. I don't even know how I had the patience to finish this game when I was younger. Too much verticality, some paths are more secret than secret rooms itself, some mobs are just annoying as fuck (elemental pain...) and make speedrun horrible (nightmare mode), etc... I really, REALLY love DooM ! I play it for easily 20 years now and I know the first game like nobody else (finished it probably hundreds times). Major problem of this second game is some roads seem weird to find and you can turn around the empty map for hours before understand how to finish the level. This second episode isn't a good episode for me, even if it gave us some good mobs like mancubus or Arch-Vile. How the hell are you supposed to find this blue key if it isn't by accident? X) I know you only need 2 keys but still... Sorry for my bad English, and thanks for this video. I don't know if I'll try the platinum of the ps4 version like I did for the first game but I'll finish it at least 😊
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
>> "... some roads seem weird to find and you can turn around the >> empty map for hours before understand how to finish the level." Well, that's why this channel and the website exist. ;) Thanks for sharing your experiences, and hope you get that platinum!
@redshady4182
4 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicDOOM Thanks, and yes, your videos are helpful 😁
@BrandonBRich
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you this map layout and music are the worst in the game by far!
@RetroGameSpacko
2 жыл бұрын
I just say it: This is the worst level of Doom2. I played it so often and I still forget where to go after some years. Totally not intuitive
@ClassicDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it can take a lot of wandering around to find everything.
@doomguy1316
3 жыл бұрын
What!?!?!?
@bongle3726
4 жыл бұрын
i love doom but some of these later levels are complete shit
@BDaMonkey
3 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@GreenFlame44
3 жыл бұрын
What the fuck, id?!
@Dangel614
11 жыл бұрын
duxa yo te había twitteado la misma webada hace doscientos años
@adamdavis1737
4 жыл бұрын
When I replay this game this is the one level I just cheat on after killing as many monsters as I can I love Doom 2. But this is bad game design right here.
@ClassicDOOM
4 жыл бұрын
Nah, don't cheat. All of these levels are beatable, even by mere mortals like you and me. :)
@adamdavis1737
4 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicDOOM I cannot undo giving all items. It has already been done 😂 Great work on the video but when the level design is so obtuse I have to look up videos. I'm already halfway to cheating anyway Anyway thanks for the content and thanks for responding comments on old videos!
@eltiolavara9
5 жыл бұрын
who the fuck made these??? some of the earlier doom 2 levels and this one make no goddamn sense, how are you supposed to figure any of this out?! even though ive beaten it like 3 times i have no idea what i did, this, industrial zone and the pit suck ass
@zenksren8206
5 жыл бұрын
Pit's alright but this along with Suburbs were my fuckin breaking point, early FPS level design is fucking trash.
@Hateful_Rex
3 жыл бұрын
@@zenksren8206 dude, level designs are not trash, is just waste your time
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